A lot of (usually reliable) sources write something like "Skinner would have thought[...]" and then put something directly contrary to what one of his books said. I think it's the implications on free will that scare people into discrediting his theory.
Skinner was right about "classical cognitive science," which assumes that the mind is orchestrated by a central planner and executed by component slave systems. However, this is not true of the new cognitive science - the so-called "second generation cognitive science" of connectionism and embodied cognition, which views the mind as a dynamic interaction between brains, bodies, and environments. On this view, complex behavior is an emergent property of simple actions and reactions.
Seriously? Dou you call thinking the act of reproducing others idea without any criticism? Have you ever read Skinner's books? I can see you haven't or you'd never say this absurd.
The brain is absolutely not a computer; there is a reason that there are variable outcomes to variable stimuli, and a computer comparison neglects the inclusion of a subconscious, which undoubtedly exists
Skinner inspired Clockwork Orange as well...I remember Kubrick's saying that "Beyond Freedom and Dignity" is one of the most dangerous books ever. Now, Skinner's book was released the same year as the movie, but still, Kubrick was aware of Skinner's job.
Unfortunately Kubrick's Clockwork Orange has nothing to do with Skinnerian psychology, Operant Conditioning, it is about Pavlovian, respondent conditioning! At the issuing of the book Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew said Skinner was the most dangerous man in the USA!
Herlon Da Veiga Soares Em um mundo onde só existe a TAC e as teorias psicodinâmicas, realmente. Mas felizmente a psicologia possui muitas abordagens, dentre as quais estão várias que se estabelecem junto ao método científico. Rogers mandou abraços.
@@kaiquepsaopaulosp3506 Infelizmente a Psicologia possui muitas abordagens, dentre as quais poucas se alinham ao método científico. Psicologia ainda não possui o respeito devido por permitir a perpetuação das pseudo-ciências em seu meio. Precisamos do fim da Psicanálise e abordagens Fenomenológicas, Humanistas e Existenciais. Esse holisticismo trava a Psicologia!
To the extent that everything in nature functions deterministically, so does the brain. It depends on what you mean by "ultimate causes." Genes aren't the *direct* causes of behavior, but they constrain the range of potential behaviors. The idea of emergent properties is that you have different levels of analysis, each of which arises from interactions of other ones. It's a kind of nonreductive physicalism - complex systems can't be understood just by reducing them to their simplest parts.
The human behave and build meaning accordingly with their pasts experiences, I suppose the behavioral science explain aspects of the cogntive psychology just in different ways
By "inter-related components" are your "individual, interrelated components" inter-individual differences/similarities, etc? - through the liquid/solid analogy, you propose "emergent properties" as a function of "increased" complexity - along what dimension do you consider this "increase"? Are there lower level cognitive "building-blocks" that arrange into more complex "dynamics" that are "interaction-dominant" i.e. contingency specific? Cognitive science represents the evolution of phrenology
Emergent properties are generated from interaction-dominant dynamics of individual, interrelated components. They exist at a particular level of complexity, but could not exist at lower levels of complexity. Classic examples are liquidity and solidity. Individual molecules can't be liquid or solid, but large collections of molecules can be. The dynamical movement in cognitive science views cognition the same way.
30 years later and, as an Applied Behavior Analysis practitioner and someone who highly respects the field of Cognitive Behavior Therapy, I am conflicted. I think Skinner was brilliant but could not predict the future of either fields entirely. Currently, Behavior Analysis doesn't have the impact and reach that I think he had hoped for the world, which is sad-because he was so very right in saying it could save the world. However, Cognitive Behavior Therapy is not without its merits and I think both fields working together could have a positive impact on many lives. I think his hope for the wold to latch onto Behavior Analysis and let all other sub-fields of cognitive psychology go was a bit too idealistic for the world right now.
What are you talking about business strategists and policy wonks, PR and intelligence firms are very keen on behavioral analysis. It's one of the pillars of social control. I don't know about saving the world 😂 just look at studies on consumer behavior which have saved the military industrial World order and investors from a few recessions by keeping the ravenous socioeconomic metabolism of the American consumer base hungry and growing for value-added manufactured goods and blood soaked commodities.
Or look at "the latin American covid consumer" it is used by the powers that be as a tool for "saving the world"(liquidating surplus and controlling society)
Eu tbm. Pena que não tem mts vídeos legandados dele. Existe um produzido pela Warner chamado The World of Difference : a good Life que retrata Twin Oaks e a experiencia baseada em Walden II
Alternative source, voice only:archive.org/ Might need to copy URL into Address Bar. Type in search b f skinner 1990. Link: Psychology, Behaviorism, And Cognitivism. Right click on MP3 - Save target as..
Seriously? The men who deprived human beings of consciousness and mind to propose a model based solely on reflexes and conditioned responses. I mean seriously? Please turn on your logic and think again, or I should say, just think.
Empirical data from every field of science including the field Skinner worked in is overwhelmingly arriving at the conclusion that man cannot think or be completely conscious to the point where "Free Will" is not even remotely possible in this universe. Your conclusion and inference, given your comment, must come from a very subjective and unreal premise/basis, I suspect that to be the case. You don't only examine the accuracy of the empirical data at hand. You must also examine your premise/basis which the data is plugged into. What is your premise/basis anyway? Examine it, mention it, we might learn from you or you might learn from us or we both learn something. There is nothing wrong about being wrong.
@@helenmohiam944 I don't understand if your comment is genuine or else. 1) without specific references to the empirical data or the consensus among scientists, it is challenging to assess the validity of your claim. 2) the nature of consciousness and free will is still a subject of debate and ongoing research in philosophy, psychology, neuroscience, and other fields. Different theories and perspectives exist regarding the processes and mechanisms underlying human thinking, but there is a general consensus that humans have the ability to engage in cognitive thought processes. 3) there is no universally accepted consensus on the existence or non-existence of free will as the question of free will goes beyond empirical evidence and delves into philosophical, ethical, and metaphysical dimensions. 4) even though some of Skinners principles have found applications, there is no behavior modification technique that can be universally considered valid or applicable to all individuals and situations. The effectiveness of behavior modification techniques depends on various factors, including the specific behavior being targeted, the individual's characteristics and circumstances, and the context in which the behavior occurs.
This was eight days before he died.
Ele sempre será lembrado.
Poor Skinner better not to be alive to see what happened to psychology after his death. The carnage of cognitivism.
This guy is and was eons ahead of the scene. He showed that pigeons can play ping pong for rewards...
A lot of (usually reliable) sources write something like "Skinner would have thought[...]" and then put something directly contrary to what one of his books said. I think it's the implications on free will that scare people into discrediting his theory.
He developed Radical Behaviorism and Applied Behavior Analysis.
One of the greatest...
One o the greatest? THE GREATEST of all.
Who fucked up education system
Me thinking B.F. Skinner is being "conditioned" by the laughter of the audience. WOW.
Skinner was right about "classical cognitive science," which assumes that the mind is orchestrated by a central planner and executed by component slave systems. However, this is not true of the new cognitive science - the so-called "second generation cognitive science" of connectionism and embodied cognition, which views the mind as a dynamic interaction between brains, bodies, and environments. On this view, complex behavior is an emergent property of simple actions and reactions.
Sure, I think the same, actually if we look closer into each theory they've got their similarities about how the human behavior,
Soviets was already aware of it in the 1920s
Miller Eric Thompson Richard Lewis Steven
“Cognitive science is the creationism of psychology.”
Cognitive science is FACT.
I think people misunderstood both Behaviourism e Cognitivism.
I'm more of a Dr. ERIC BERNE M.D type of guy.
Seriously? Dou you call thinking the act of reproducing others idea without any criticism? Have you ever read Skinner's books? I can see you haven't or you'd never say this absurd.
Isso 8 dias antes da sua morte .
Si
The brain is a computer. Skinner was wrong.
The brain is absolutely not a computer; there is a reason that there are variable outcomes to variable stimuli, and a computer comparison neglects the inclusion of a subconscious, which undoubtedly exists
Skinner inspired Clockwork Orange as well...I remember Kubrick's saying that "Beyond Freedom and Dignity" is one of the most dangerous books ever. Now, Skinner's book was released the same year as the movie, but still, Kubrick was aware of Skinner's job.
Unfortunately Kubrick's Clockwork Orange has nothing to do with Skinnerian psychology, Operant Conditioning, it is about Pavlovian, respondent conditioning! At the issuing of the book Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew said Skinner was the most dangerous man in the USA!
@@paulbarron7126 Five years too late, but you nailed it. Skinner = Operant (learned) behavior, Pavlov = respondent (reflex) behavior
O único propositor de uma psicologia científica!
Herlon Da Veiga Soares Em um mundo onde só existe a TAC e as teorias psicodinâmicas, realmente. Mas felizmente a psicologia possui muitas abordagens, dentre as quais estão várias que se estabelecem junto ao método científico. Rogers mandou abraços.
@@kaiquepsaopaulosp3506 Infelizmente a Psicologia possui muitas abordagens, dentre as quais poucas se alinham ao método científico. Psicologia ainda não possui o respeito devido por permitir a perpetuação das pseudo-ciências em seu meio. Precisamos do fim da Psicanálise e abordagens Fenomenológicas, Humanistas e Existenciais. Esse holisticismo trava a Psicologia!
To the extent that everything in nature functions deterministically, so does the brain.
It depends on what you mean by "ultimate causes." Genes aren't the *direct* causes of behavior, but they constrain the range of potential behaviors. The idea of emergent properties is that you have different levels of analysis, each of which arises from interactions of other ones. It's a kind of nonreductive physicalism - complex systems can't be understood just by reducing them to their simplest parts.
The human behave and build meaning accordingly with their pasts experiences, I suppose the behavioral science explain aspects of the cogntive psychology just in different ways
By "inter-related components" are your "individual, interrelated components" inter-individual differences/similarities, etc? - through the liquid/solid analogy, you propose "emergent properties" as a function of "increased" complexity - along what dimension do you consider this "increase"? Are there lower level cognitive "building-blocks" that arrange into more complex "dynamics" that are "interaction-dominant" i.e. contingency specific? Cognitive science represents the evolution of phrenology
behaviorism is dead, long live Cognitivism
Emergent properties are generated from interaction-dominant dynamics of individual, interrelated components. They exist at a particular level of complexity, but could not exist at lower levels of complexity. Classic examples are liquidity and solidity. Individual molecules can't be liquid or solid, but large collections of molecules can be. The dynamical movement in cognitive science views cognition the same way.
video indicaçao do prof de soc grupais
He's got a GIANT DENT, right ABOVE HIS FORHEAD.
On his LEFT SIDE.
I'm glad you were able to focus on the take home message of the talk
@mam362 I know bro.
I live in OREGON if these QRACKS did THERE JOB this STATE wouldn't be such a COMPLETE DUPSTER 🔥
Heh I'm still in grad school. Maybe someday.
ArcadianGenesis what about now
@@vineety450 Probably not
Excelente....
BRAVO
He died just 8 days after this speech.
30 years later and, as an Applied Behavior Analysis practitioner and someone who highly respects the field of Cognitive Behavior Therapy, I am conflicted. I think Skinner was brilliant but could not predict the future of either fields entirely. Currently, Behavior Analysis doesn't have the impact and reach that I think he had hoped for the world, which is sad-because he was so very right in saying it could save the world. However, Cognitive Behavior Therapy is not without its merits and I think both fields working together could have a positive impact on many lives. I think his hope for the wold to latch onto Behavior Analysis and let all other sub-fields of cognitive psychology go was a bit too idealistic for the world right now.
What are you talking about business strategists and policy wonks, PR and intelligence firms are very keen on behavioral analysis. It's one of the pillars of social control. I don't know about saving the world 😂 just look at studies on consumer behavior which have saved the military industrial World order and investors from a few recessions by keeping the ravenous socioeconomic metabolism of the American consumer base hungry and growing for value-added manufactured goods and blood soaked commodities.
Or look at "the latin American covid consumer" it is used by the powers that be as a tool for "saving the world"(liquidating surplus and controlling society)
Acceptance and Commitment Therapy
Arrepio toda vez que assisto.
Eu tbm. Pena que não tem mts vídeos legandados dele. Existe um produzido pela Warner chamado The World of Difference : a good Life que retrata Twin Oaks e a experiencia baseada em Walden II
This man filled with some great ideas...
it is fortunate that many of them were wrong so we had something to learn from.
Most of them were correct, actually
He died two days before I was born... Curious!
+Samuel Carlos Not really
Anyone got a version of this without the subtitles?
Alternative source, voice only:archive.org/ Might need to copy URL into Address Bar. Type in search b f skinner 1990. Link: Psychology, Behaviorism, And Cognitivism. Right click on MP3 - Save target as..
Seriously? The men who deprived human beings of consciousness and mind to propose a model based solely on reflexes and conditioned responses. I mean seriously? Please turn on your logic and think again, or I should say, just think.
Still didn‘t get it?
It makes sense, unlike your...um....well thought out response?
Empirical data from every field of science including the field Skinner worked in is overwhelmingly arriving at the conclusion that man cannot think or be completely conscious to the point where "Free Will" is not even remotely possible in this universe.
Your conclusion and inference, given your comment, must come from a very subjective and unreal premise/basis, I suspect that to be the case. You don't only examine the accuracy of the empirical data at hand. You must also examine your premise/basis which the data is plugged into.
What is your premise/basis anyway? Examine it, mention it, we might learn from you or you might learn from us or we both learn something. There is nothing wrong about being wrong.
@@helenmohiam944 I don't understand if your comment is genuine or else.
1) without specific references to the empirical data or the consensus among scientists, it is challenging to assess the validity of your claim.
2) the nature of consciousness and free will is still a subject of debate and ongoing research in philosophy, psychology, neuroscience, and other fields. Different theories and perspectives exist regarding the processes and mechanisms underlying human thinking, but there is a general consensus that humans have the ability to engage in cognitive thought processes.
3) there is no universally accepted consensus on the existence or non-existence of free will as the question of free will goes beyond empirical evidence and delves into philosophical, ethical, and metaphysical dimensions.
4) even though some of Skinners principles have found applications, there is no behavior modification technique that can be universally considered valid or applicable to all individuals and situations. The effectiveness of behavior modification techniques depends on various factors, including the specific behavior being targeted, the individual's characteristics and circumstances, and the context in which the behavior occurs.
@@mariopuglEleven years later and you still have the same account? Impressive behavior!