Also factor in environmental conditions too. I frequently find myself in windy conditions on the coast or exposed hills and mountains. If I am standing in windy conditions I find it harder to stabilize the image with 10x. If I am glassing through hazy, heavy pollution, smog or thermal heat waves... I have found 10x to be less desirable in these conditions as well. Its like a digital zoom, and blowing up and expanding a pixelated image. My preference is 7-8x, its a good compromise for me. I wish I could get 10-12x to work for me though, there are many times when I want to get closer than 7-8X. Thanks for sharing this information.
Your are right.i had a Zeiss Victory FL 10X56 and together with the rubber caps and strap it weight was 1,5 KG or 3,3 LBS.Also the edge from the image was not sharp and clear.Wit 10X Mag, you constantly bissy to keep the damm thing not moving wich cost a lot of energy en mentaly you have a hard time to concentrade on what you actaly are seeing and obsurving.
My personal opinion: no matter , which handheld-bino, take 7x or 8x magnification instead of 10x . in many situations 10x is hard to hold without shaking. Most bird watchers said in an investigation , that they choosed 10x ( 10x instead of 7x ) . So we can imagine, that 10x is better for watching . Wrong ! The second question was : if you could chosse now again : would you buy the 10x again or buy a 7x . Nearly all said , they would buy a 7x now...... So, average use for nearly all situations: 7x or 8x . Just special, limited use : 10x . Besides that : a large field of view is worth gold :-)
nteresting! I consider 8x as good standard magnification. Some have steady hands and can have advantage of 10x. But I think many think that higher is better and therefore get 10x despite 8x had been better in the long run. BUT: some binoculars have a better weight balance and fit better in the hands and provide more stable image with same magnification than other. And let me here tell about Swarovski NL Pure. Very comfortable in the hand, and with the forehead rest(great invention!) the 8x version are steady like had been using 6x glass. Therefore I wonder about if I could advantageous have chose the 10x42.. No, I am very Pleased with the supersharp, stable bright wide FOV.
@@patricj951 8x is great for up close and watching birds. But that's it. 90% of the population don't use bino's but to check on something near their homes or to take to events etc. etc. 90%...!!! All the other bino's are specialty based. 10x is where the money is. for distance and clarity. And clarity is never coming in an 8x. You can jump up and down and swear on your mother's life. But facts are facts. 10x and above is distance and clarity. Which = most hunters and military and etc. Distance is what bino's were actually designed for in the first place. Distance. So don't try and sound like an authority, unless you know what you're talking about.
I purchased the 8x42 Vortex Viper HD binoculars and absolutely love them in low-light conditions. When I'm glassing early AM and late PM it makes a huge difference. I can glass for hours before experiencing any eye strain. Very comfortable on the eyes.
Sounds like a cracking pair of binos! I use to have the same model back in 2010 and I remember them being excellent for low light. Sadly, I lost them in Africa and eventually had them replace with Zeiss conquest 8x42. Enjoy
Guys, professional birders also use 8x42 , I think saying that novice people should stay away from 10x is conflicting to some . Most people can easily hand hold 10x without a problem providing they buy a good binocular not a $40 pair and they are not a four years old kid . Also, saying that 10x is sharper isn't true 8x and 10x will have the same sharpness, how much can be seen depend on how steady the image. 10x are best suited for open lakes & fields in good lighting. The extra detail of the 10x will only be obvious over the 8x if a tripod or super steady hands are in use to eliminate all shake. I personally use the 8x for my walks in the wood and around my garden, the 10x only come out on holiday and lakes and field viewing. Cheers
hey all, sorry to be late to the party.. My question is,, I already have the swaro 8x42 nl pures..awesome bit of kit for sure. I augmented it with a monopod and bino bandits.. which brought it to the next remarkable level. My question is, i would like more magnification,, would it make sense to go just to 10x42 or up to 12x42 (or 50s). The reason I ask is often I see much heat/humidity mirage type distortions already with the 8x42.. will the 12x just magnify that with no real benifit in viewing pleasure? I am using binos for birding and wild life viewing, not for identifying game.. thanks jd
Excellent video and very informative. Thank you. One question though, when doing a price comparison, the 10x versions are most of the times (always?) more expansive than the 8x versions. Why is this? In terms of dimensions the models do not differ.
What would you consider to be the best make of binoculars. For novice use but wAnt good quality. I have an old pair of Bushnell but don’t know how they are viewed, pun intended, today or what might be better
This is driving me crazy. Virtually everyone has this narrative. 8x42 vs 10x42. That is not a good comparison. If you are going to a 10X then you need to go up to a 50 or 52 objective. Go up in magnification, go up in the objective. The pupil size will follow. Whys is this not a thing/narrative?
Great review. I was looking to upgrade my binoculars for a bird watching trip to Belize. Sounds like the10x42 between $500 and $900 will be a good choice for me. Any advice on brand would be appreciated. Maybe Steiner, because they have been around a long time and German made?
I would refrain from generalizing expert vs novice. I do not consider myself a novice yet I prefer 8x to 10x in most settings. I find the ease of use more comfortable and find I can identify almost, if not, as much detail. Quality of glass is important too, using a high quality 8x is better with more resolution than a poor quality10x. A favorite full size of mine is a 7x42. I would have to say my favorite general purpose is a quality 8x32 (nobody really makes a 7x in that size). I have 10x and I use it but have really found the comfort of the lower magnifications pleasing.
Thank you! We wouldn't really suggest 8x42 configuration for astronomy observations as the magnification is too small. You can browse our selection of binoculars suitable for astronomy here: www.optics-trade.eu/en/binoculars/astro-binoculars.html
@@OpticsTradeEU But you have the Bresser Pirsch ED 8x42 Binoculars as well as the Bresser Pirsch ED 8x34 Binoculars listed in your selection of binoculars suitable for astronomy. ??????
Thank you guys, good help!., just still have to decide between Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 and the Nikon Monarch HG 10x42....does the 10x42 still have the vibration on this models...?., which one will you choose....?., i like to use it for landscape, in the forrest and also for some safaris...need to say i am a beginner on binocular...!Thanks again.,you got a new subscribed!.Best regards
Hi. I wanted to buy binocular for traveling, supervision, bird wathing, but I can't choose model. My budget 150-200$. Now i watch 2 brands. Nikon and Vortex. So, my questions: 1. Nikon Prosstaf 7S or Vortex Diamondback? 2. Sizes and magnification, 8×42, 8×50, 10×42, 10×50 which one the better?
@@user-dc1ud6px3s the field of view of zoom binos is too small. The constructio is too "difficult", too heavy and the whole mechanism / optics can´t be protected against shock, water and dust :-( Unfortunately zoom binos don´t last long enough, many of them are out of collimation even when they are new..... too shaky construction......
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Something very important you left out is what 10x is actually designed for. ""Distance"" ...!!! People that buy 10x and above are not backyard bird watchers or concert attending groupies. They are hunters generally or boaters or people wanting distance and clarity. And you have to pay to play as the saying goes whenever the word "Clarity ""comes up. You're not talking $200 or $300, you're talking $$$$$$$$$$$ thousands. And you're talking about brands like Zeiss and Swarovski and Lecia and etc. etc. Swarovski NL Pures are amazing. But out of my league, I'm not that wealthy. Wish I was, I'd buy them so fast, your heads would spin. I just spent $400 on 10x42 Howa. And I'm hoping they are as good as everyone says. I have a Japanese scope that was made in the 70's and it was passed down to my oldest son. And it was very clear for it's age. And everything else I've ever seen from Japan was also excellent. Like Fuji etc. What do you gentlemen think of "Howa" ????
Also factor in environmental conditions too. I frequently find myself in windy conditions on the coast or exposed hills and mountains. If I am standing in windy conditions I find it harder to stabilize the image with 10x. If I am glassing through hazy, heavy pollution, smog or thermal heat waves... I have found 10x to be less desirable in these conditions as well. Its like a digital zoom, and blowing up and expanding a pixelated image. My preference is 7-8x, its a good compromise for me. I wish I could get 10-12x to work for me though, there are many times when I want to get closer than 7-8X. Thanks for sharing this information.
Your are right.i had a Zeiss Victory FL 10X56 and together with the rubber caps and strap it weight was 1,5 KG or 3,3 LBS.Also the edge from the image was not sharp and clear.Wit 10X Mag, you constantly bissy to keep the damm thing not moving wich cost a lot of energy en mentaly you have a hard time to concentrade on what you actaly are seeing and obsurving.
My personal opinion: no matter , which handheld-bino, take 7x or 8x magnification instead of 10x . in many situations 10x is hard to hold without shaking. Most bird watchers said in an investigation , that they choosed 10x ( 10x instead of 7x ) . So we can imagine, that 10x is better for watching . Wrong ! The second question was : if you could chosse now again : would you buy the 10x again or buy a 7x . Nearly all said , they would buy a 7x now...... So, average use for nearly all situations: 7x or 8x . Just special, limited use : 10x .
Besides that : a large field of view is worth gold :-)
Everything above 8 is hard to hold steady unless the binoculars are really heavy and the shear weight makes them stable.
nteresting! I consider 8x as good standard magnification. Some have steady hands and can have advantage of 10x. But I think many think that higher is better and therefore get 10x despite 8x had been better in the long run.
BUT: some binoculars have a better weight balance and fit better in the hands and provide more stable image with same magnification than other.
And let me here tell about Swarovski NL Pure. Very comfortable in the hand, and with the forehead rest(great invention!) the 8x version are steady like had been using 6x glass. Therefore I wonder about if I could advantageous have chose the 10x42..
No, I am very Pleased with the supersharp, stable bright wide FOV.
@@patricj951 8x is great for up close and watching birds. But that's it. 90% of the population don't use bino's but to check on something near their homes or to take to events etc. etc. 90%...!!! All the other bino's are specialty based. 10x is where the money is. for distance and clarity. And clarity is never coming in an 8x. You can jump up and down and swear on your mother's life. But facts are facts. 10x and above is distance and clarity. Which = most hunters and military and etc. Distance is what bino's were actually designed for in the first place. Distance. So don't try and sound like an authority, unless you know what you're talking about.
Is it worth to have both? 8x42 NL Pure AND 10x42? or not so much difference? I have already 8x, but curious to 10x But i will use 8x the most
Was looking for a low light explanation between these for hunting, perfect, thank you.
I purchased the 8x42 Vortex Viper HD binoculars and absolutely love them in low-light conditions.
When I'm glassing early AM and late PM it makes a huge difference.
I can glass for hours before experiencing any eye strain. Very comfortable on the eyes.
Sounds like a cracking pair of binos! I use to have the same model back in 2010 and I remember them being excellent for low light. Sadly, I lost them in Africa and eventually had them replace with Zeiss conquest 8x42. Enjoy
Guys, professional birders also use 8x42 , I think saying that novice people should stay away from 10x is conflicting to some . Most people can easily hand hold 10x without a problem providing they buy a good binocular not a $40 pair and they are not a four years old kid . Also, saying that 10x is sharper isn't true 8x and 10x will have the same sharpness, how much can be seen depend on how steady the
image. 10x are best suited for open lakes & fields in good lighting. The extra detail of the 10x will only be obvious over the 8x if a tripod or super steady hands are in use to eliminate all shake. I personally use the 8x for my walks in the wood and around my garden, the 10x only come out on holiday and lakes and field viewing. Cheers
Do i need both?
I already have an 8x42 and 8x25.
I am considering an 10x32
Or is this too close?
Is it worth to have both? 8x42 NL Pure AND 10x42? or not so much difference? I have already 8x, but curious to 10x But i will use 8x the most.
Gr8 explanation guys ...
Also in the above case, 10*50 would be a good trade off, don't you think ? with exit pupil value of 5.0 mm
Swarovski nl pure has headrest for the binoculars and it'd be nice to see with headrest 10x42
Also the Swarovski no pure 10x42 have the fov of an 8x42
hey all,
sorry to be late to the party..
My question is,,
I already have the swaro 8x42 nl pures..awesome bit of kit for sure. I augmented it with a monopod and bino bandits.. which brought it to the next remarkable level.
My question is, i would like more magnification,, would it make sense to go just to 10x42 or up to 12x42 (or 50s). The reason I ask is often I see much heat/humidity mirage type distortions already with the 8x42.. will the 12x just magnify that with no real benifit in viewing pleasure? I am using binos for birding and wild life viewing, not for identifying game..
thanks
jd
I already have a 8x42 and 8x25.
Should i go for an 10x32 or 12x42 for more mag?
And why don't they make 9x42 and so the debate ends?
Excellent video and very informative. Thank you.
One question though, when doing a price comparison, the 10x versions are most of the times (always?) more expansive than the 8x versions. Why is this? In terms of dimensions the models do not differ.
More lenses in 10x.
Very helpful, Thank you. Answered my questions. I will be purchasing the 8x42.
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This was fantastic. The clearest explanation on this issue I have heard.
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Great video! Really helped me, as a novice user, to decide between 8x42 and 10x42.
Great to hear! Thank you for watching.
I have the Zeiss 7x42 Dialyt, which has a VERY large field of view, too, and it is not "shaky" while holding it :-)
Great video guys . Good information presented and helped me rethink what I’m going to buy. You should see the order through soon.
Excellent, glad to be of help! :)
I have a Swarovski SLC 10x42 in very low low condition, sharpness, and strong color and transparent view.
What would you consider to be the best make of binoculars. For novice use but wAnt good quality. I have an old pair of Bushnell but don’t know how they are viewed, pun intended, today or what might be better
This is driving me crazy. Virtually everyone has this narrative. 8x42 vs 10x42. That is not a good comparison. If you are going to a 10X then you need to go up to a 50 or 52 objective. Go up in magnification, go up in the objective. The pupil size will follow. Whys is this not a thing/narrative?
So what do you think of the 12x42? NL
Great review. I was looking to upgrade my binoculars for a bird watching trip to Belize. Sounds like the10x42 between $500 and $900 will be a good choice for me. Any advice on brand would be appreciated. Maybe Steiner, because they have been around a long time and German made?
After listening to bird watching videos. I think I might go with the 8x42.
@@Rottingboards Go!
Nikon 8x42 vs olympus 8-16x40 which one is more better?
I would refrain from generalizing expert vs novice. I do not consider myself a novice yet I prefer 8x to 10x in most settings. I find the ease of use more comfortable and find I can identify almost, if not, as much detail. Quality of glass is important too, using a high quality 8x is better with more resolution than a poor quality10x. A favorite full size of mine is a 7x42. I would have to say my favorite general purpose is a quality 8x32 (nobody really makes a 7x in that size). I have 10x and I use it but have really found the comfort of the lower magnifications pleasing.
Hi Guys, Great video, helps me make up mymind more strongly towards 8x42's, do you know if these 8x42's good for Astronomy?
Thank you! We wouldn't really suggest 8x42 configuration for astronomy observations as the magnification is too small. You can browse our selection of binoculars suitable for astronomy here: www.optics-trade.eu/en/binoculars/astro-binoculars.html
@@OpticsTradeEU But you have the Bresser Pirsch ED 8x42 Binoculars as well as the Bresser Pirsch ED 8x34 Binoculars listed in your selection of binoculars suitable for astronomy. ??????
Didn't know Michael from v sauce was into binoculars
Thank you guys, good help!., just still have to decide between Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 and the Nikon Monarch HG 10x42....does the 10x42 still have the vibration on this models...?., which one will you choose....?., i like to use it for landscape, in the forrest and also for some safaris...need to say i am a beginner on binocular...!Thanks again.,you got a new subscribed!.Best regards
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8x42
8x42, no doubt
@@OpticsTradeEU Just ANSWER THE DAMM QUESTION !!!
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What about Nikon prostaff 5 8 × 42 ?
Hi. I wanted to buy binocular for traveling, supervision, bird wathing, but I can't choose model. My budget 150-200$. Now i watch 2 brands. Nikon and Vortex. So, my questions: 1. Nikon Prosstaf 7S or Vortex Diamondback?
2. Sizes and magnification,
8×42, 8×50, 10×42, 10×50 which one the better?
Nikon 7s 10×42
ALWAYS 8 x (never 10x) if you want a bino - allrounder :-)
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It was gr8 help, Thanks a lot!
Vsauce of binoculars!
Nice work. Thank you.
Great information!! Helped me in my decision!
That's great to hear, thank you!
Great presentation, now I know what to buy, thx guys!
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Thanks for the recommendation! Pretty good video.
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Very helpful info…..Thank You
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Excelente información! Agradecido.
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Why not get variable zoom binoculars? Then you can cover whatever zoom range that you want.
I guess its because weight would become an issue.
@@user-dc1ud6px3s the field of view of zoom binos is too small. The constructio is too "difficult", too heavy and the whole mechanism / optics can´t be protected against shock, water and dust :-( Unfortunately zoom binos don´t last long enough, many of them are out of collimation even when they are new..... too shaky construction......
Good one!
thank you so much. :)
Hi nice review suggest me a all purpose binoculars lightweight and waterproof
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very informative video, thank you!
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Thank you great informative video.
Thank you for watching.
Thanks and congrats for the video that helped me much on the decision.
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Thank you for a Great Video.
Thank you so much for watching!
8x42s! thanks..
Something very important you left out is what 10x is actually designed for. ""Distance"" ...!!! People that buy 10x and above are not backyard bird watchers or concert attending groupies. They are hunters generally or boaters or people wanting distance and clarity. And you have to pay to play as the saying goes whenever the word "Clarity ""comes up. You're not talking $200 or $300, you're talking $$$$$$$$$$$ thousands. And you're talking about brands like Zeiss and Swarovski and Lecia and etc. etc. Swarovski NL Pures are amazing. But out of my league, I'm not that wealthy. Wish I was, I'd buy them so fast, your heads would spin. I just spent $400 on 10x42 Howa. And I'm hoping they are as good as everyone says. I have a Japanese scope that was made in the 70's and it was passed down to my oldest son. And it was very clear for it's age. And everything else I've ever seen from Japan was also excellent. Like Fuji etc. What do you gentlemen think of "Howa" ????
what about on a boat ?
The best magnification power to use binoculars on the water is 7x. But between 8x42 and 10x42, the 8x42 is definitely the best choice.
@@OpticsTradeEU on a boat : 7x ( maybeeee 6 x or 8 x , NEVER 10 x !!!! )
since WWII until today nearly all military navy binoculars for H A N D H E L D use on board of ships are 7x binos.......
You need to sort your audio out guys.
Can you be more specific in what is wrong with it?
@@OpticsTradeEU The audio is fine and totally fit for purpose. Thanks for the review!
There’s nothing at all wrong with the audio
10x50 and get the best of both worlds