KEF VS Canton... (Kef R11/Canton Vento)
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2022
- Let me know which speaker you find the better speaker in the comments below! Two absolutely prestigious brands going head-to-head to find out if the lesser priced Canton Vento 896.2 DC ($4000ish/pair) can hang with the KEF R11s ($6000/pair) or does the KEF's blow it out of the water. It's not often we see KEF and Canton in the same room, so I decided to take advantage of it! OH, by the way, the Canton's are still for sale! $2500 for the pair! Email me at Kpaceguy@gmail.com if you're interested!
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Leave me a comment down below and tell me which speaker you think is the better one. Tell me why!
Thank you for making this comparison. That's why i follow you and will continue to follow even if you don't have cantons anymore. I like the content. These Kef are nice speakers. They could be miles better for sure. Same goes for the cantons. The should have bypass capacitors to enhance the depth even further. What I like about the Kef, it sounds a tad sweeter in the higher midrange. It sounds like the kef has a little more resonance on some music parts (could be because of the mic) but the canton ceramic tweeter runs rounds around the aluminium tweeters of Kef. I think this is due to lower crossover parts (capacitor mundorf and bypass with Teflon will enhance depth and clarity lots) all in all what doyou think. I still think the canton chassis are more artistic and mitigate resonance issues(standing waves) ofcourse Kef had its own internal design. Conclusive: both are excellent speakers. I don't think the kef are worth the extra price. But new adventures are always good for the channel and pleases the mind. enjoy the kef speakers. Looking forward too the center placement video.
@@nathanvanstralendorff2405 Thank you my friend! Yes we will test the center and continue to play around with the Kefs. Especially the Bookshelves when they come in!
@@Kpaceguy keep it up! Don't forget to enjoy yourself. We keep enjoying your content.
@Kpaceguy Thanks for playing David Celeste. This is new for me. Very nice music.
@@nathanvanstralendorff2405 very nice music
What you hear and what we hear are two different things so I think on this occasion I'll keep my opinion to myself! Very good initial assessment! Looking forward to the review.
OUTSTANDING review Kpg. You are the Roy Hobbs of speaker reviewers. Thank you.
Thank you brother I greatly appreciate that!
Nice, exactly the info I was looking for Now! You’ve got a new fan.
Glad I could help!
I love it, you have two great speakers that you compared with each other and determined what you like best. You did it your way and are satisfied with your choice. That's what matters most. Don't listen to what any other person has to say, your listening experience is for you.
Thank you!
Both really are great speakers, Kef is more laid back and neutral. Canton more dynamic and detailed. Really has more to do with your room, gear, and preference. I’ve had both in my house as a demo and I went the other way a kept the vento 896.2. I still really liked the r11 but they didn’t give me that realistic sound of dynamic swings I was looking for. Almost like Kef decided to round of these dynamic swings to make a more polite speaker. All that being said I’d be proud to own both.
Wait until you listen and compare in the same line with B&W speakers - blow my mind as to how B&W speakers were designed, especially their Carbon Dome tweeters in the 700 series. Of course the Dimaond Dome tweeters are top of the line in the 800 series. I woudd compare these with the 703 S2 tower speakers
@@baycchief3785 bowers are very nice too but a step below the vento and Kef r11. Bowers are a little bright for me and at higher volumes distort. Just not my type of speaker and definitely have a certain sound. I wanted to really like the 7 series because the 3 way center channel looked like a great design. The revel c208 and f208 would be a better comparison to these.
@@timfloyd9397 Wait until you pair them up with the correct amp - in this case for HT, you can go with the Mcintosh 7 channel @ 200 Watts each - The house sounds can't deny it at least it's my preference. Regardless everyone has their own preference of sounds and how their gears would be integrated to produce the sounds that they like.
@@baycchief3785 B& W make some high end speakers for sure & they make some I have heard in the CM series and they were bright in the high frequency range. My choice in a speaker brand is Sonus Faber.
@@baycchief3785 b&w is overhyped. There speaker design and the measurements are not good at all. So the kefs and the canton are way better.
I never had Canton before but I had auditioned KEF speakers and finally had to choose B&W speakers.
I've got the 896 for 3 months and sold it. Now I've got R11. The Cantons are great speakers, but in my opinion is KEF more smoother and warmer than 896. The R11 has more power at the bass. For me the best speaker that I have 👍👌😎
I upgraded my speakers just under 2 years ago. When I’m spending vast quantities of my hard earned cash, I don’t rush my purchasing decision. I auditioned dozens of speakers. Had multiple listening sessions at numerous dealers. I auditioned, ATCSCM50. Sonus, pioneer. Kef R11. PNC. Monitor Audio. Spender Etc.
The speakers I took home with me were the Kef R11. They had excellent tonality at low volume.you can drive then hard without distortion. Despite their size, they image well. The bass is authorative, smooth and precise. They represent high value and performance. They’re not perfect, nothing is! The mid-range is a tad lean and the top end could benefit from greater presence. But I have no purchase regret.
I may have missed it, but does the R11 image well enough in your room, where you can effectively run a phantom center? KEFs are imaging monsters and should create a pinpoint center image.
But I know you mentioned you ended up getting a center anyway because you just missed it.
Could you make a video comparison for phantom center vs "non ideal" center placement?
I'll give it a shot. But yea they gave a very effective center image so phantom center works very well but I don't quite sit in the middle during long watching sessions and that's when I miss it. Even a little off axis it's not terrible but enough for me to go out and buy a center
I have to say that I noticed that the KEF’s sounded fuller than the Cantons I only noticed when I closed my eyes and opened them when I heard a noticeable difference in the sound and of course I don’t know what either speakers sound like but they were different and I thought the Canton’s had a stronger response in the highs but they were just a bit brighter than the KEF but I will probably never know what each of them really sound like but from my thoughts I think the KEFs are better, Here’s a thought, I think I would keep the Cantons for the Surround Side and they are close to Timbre match that they may give you a much better Theater setup. But thanks for sharing this review with us and keep them coming.
I would probably go with the KEF given the choice and the money 💰, thanks kpace , wish I could have been in the room with ya !
Thanks for watching
The KEF's are the ones for me
at 8:30 you can really hear the difference the Kef made over the Canton sound more immersive and more exciting and cleaner. Kef for the win
Cantons sound veiled compared
What subwoofers do you use? I have the Canton Vento 850 R subwoofer which blend perfectly with my Vento towers!
ruclips.net/video/cR4ZvIkt2QQ/видео.html
See: ruclips.net/video/PizMXCSPgUQ/видео.html
For musicality the Canton 850R is the best I have ever heard. Pitty that you did have them with your Canton set-up, really! I had a REL before and listened to several subs (DYNE Audio, a big B&W, a KEF, Focal, etc.) but nothing came close to the clear undistorted, strong and controlled bass of the Canton Vento Sub 850R. A shame that Canton discontinued this model. I have btw all white Canton’s like you. Do you live in Europe? If so and you did not sell you Cantons yet, probably my son in law would be interested to buy them from you.
Is had to judge from a video but I was able to listen to Kef in person Kef sound great
Did you have a crossover on during testing? Bass sounds weak on both. The monoprice amps are lean but damn, no bass from either.
No they were full range but my mic does do much past 40hz. Both of these speakers have insane amounts of bass
I think when you get in the same $ ball park, its a matter of taste. So many good speakers in that price range.
I have the Kef R700 and love them I ordered the R6C Meta as the center
Send it to me for a review 😅
I prefer the Kefs. More natural, open mids, great for vocals. The cantons would make a great theater setup. Accentuated highs and lows but vocals sounds boxed in.
Hello!
Please tell me which got a punchier bass in your opinion.
Thanks
Canton is "punchier"
on my headphones the Kef definitely have that fuller more immersive sound over the cantons on music but i did not hear that significant of a difference in the movie. But i also liked the canton sound.
Kef music performance is what drew me in!
Tha Canton's had more snap to them during playback of the movie. The Kef's sound more airy to me. That's probably due to the efficiency of the speakers. The classical music sounded fantastic with the Kef's and I see why you love them alot-Besides, being your new hobby toys😁😁. When I first subscribed to your channel years ago, it was all about your beautiful Polk audio setup. My, my, my, have things changed.
Thousands of dollars later and your budget have increased to some Kef's🙂🙂. This is a very expensive hobby. It always seems like we're all upgrading. I'm currently still tweaking my new 4 SB 3000's, to blend well with my 6, Ultra Towers and Ultra center. The 4, subs are shaking the house. Especially, coming from SB 2000's.
I started my journey from a Samsung (touch of color) box and one, to a 5.1 Andrew Jones setup. Then I upgraded everything to a 7.4.4 Andrew Jones Pioneer elite setup. I replaced the pioneer elite center with an Ultra center and I never looked back. My journey started in an apartment 2017/2018ish. Now my theater is in a house with a 24 feet by 26 feet room with tile floors and a huge area rug. When you buy your house I'm sure your setup will change again. The crazy thing is. I still have all my speakers except for the SB 2000'S because of the upgrade program ofcourse, and the Samsung box and 1. I ended up donating that to a secondhand store "AMVETS". I still have 2 Andrew Jones 10 inch down firing subwoofers packed up in their boxes. I have a 2 channel setup with 2 of the Pioneer Elite towers. These towers have perfect imaging for a phantom speaker. I typed all this just to tell you how proud I am for you, and for allowing myself and others to witness your home theater and audiophilec journey. Congrats on your new endeavors.
You've be around a while haha I appreciate you
I wonder if that def tech is holding back your system. It’s very hard to integrate different subs
It's sealed as well so it's not far off in performance. Just doesn't dig as deep
Ok so I own the 896,2 and have not heard the R11 but i had a lot of work to figger out the best placement for my speakers and use them in my listning room. I come up with tilting them up a bit to make them sound better. Placing them of axis almost straight forward. It is really hard to set up speakers (I think). The fact that you played the speakers at different locations in the room is not ideal either! In your video the K11 sound better I think, anyway I´m not sure you got the best sound out of your Cantons cos they are proberbly harder to set up right. But I thank you for the great review, after all I want the KEF R11 🙂 And yes I have a sub behind my listning position and diffusers and basstraps and all that! Greatings from Sweden Kpaceguy
I had the canton for years in 3 different positions. 1 video didn't decide my decision. This was more for the viewing audience than it was for me
I have always been a Yamaha man, specifically the NS-1000M, however if Yamaha wasn't making those speakers, it would be Canton for me. The only other speakers that come close to the satisfaction of details like the NS-1000 beryllium.
Request to compare them without EQ pure audio. 🙏
I have always liked the uniQ drivers so i like Kef
Bro, you and me are so a like, I had the Bose LS650, then the same Samsung projector and have the Q750 and Onkyo RZ50. we should meet, we must be a lot a like lol. I actually sold my Samsung projector and got an OLED 83", the room the projector is in was just too bright and we had a ALR screen, at night it was fine. Also my kids constantly bumped into the projector and I had to realign it a lot and was getting too annoying.. Was able to sell the screen and projector. Your channel is excellent. Would love to see how the Q750 compare against the R11's, there's about a $6k price difference.
I appreciate it. If you're similar than me than let's see how close to Kentucky you live lol
The Kef wins hands down for me. The positioning was more of a disadvantage for the Kef, because the Cantons were in front of the R11s causing a near (strong) reflection which muddies the sound. I get it, it's a lot of work moving speakers to do comparison and I am sure you realize that speakers need room to breath to sound their best, but if anyone thinks the Cantons were at a disadvantage due to narrower spacing, they have never set up two tower speakers side by side with one in front of the other, causing a nasty first reflection which drastically muddies the sound.
Hi am here listening to your video on my KEF R11. The canton sound V shaped by comparison. The mic used in recording this video is certainly not good enough to capture the sound of either of these speakers in my opinion. Of course your room and setup will ultimately determine what your ears hear. In my experience the kefs are very linear and respond well to EQ so it is easy to get the sound you like from these speakers provided you are able to get the best out of your room correction and DSP. BTW I also have R3 and R2C. The R3 for rears is a bit overkill but holy moly surround sound transitions.....you will see for yourself soon enough. Best of luck.
It don't matter what mic I use, it's youtube..
Cantons really need tubes. Got my 890.2 for for a steal from a4l and couldn’t be happier, but I still get the urge to tinker with bookshelf’s for comparison purposes.
I would
I Have The Denon AVRX6700H, But What's Very Good Power 🔋 Amp To Pair With The Denon??? I Realize 👀, That The KEF's Are A 4 Ohms Speakers 🔊 Aswell???
Yes
@@Kpaceguy, Besides The Denon AVRX6700H, What Power AMPLIFIER Would Add With The Denon, For The KEF'S IN A HOME THEATER 🎥 SET UP????
@@michaelburton5198 monoprice, emotiva
@@Kpaceguy I Appreciate That!!! Probably LEAN More Towards The Emotiva Power 🔋 Amplifier!
from the mic point (listen on RUclips ), Canton sound bright & weaker bass .& mid bass .Thanks for great comparison , need more longer vocal to hear the mid.
They both sound good, I think the kef are more smoother. Either speakers would be fine.
As long as you are happy with them, thats what matters, 😁
Super happy
Canton and Kefs are very similar in all areas of sonics. Cantons run away with the win with their ceramic tweeter. It gives them a holographic sound that is usually found in an electrostatic speaker. Its magical. And the Kefs are 2k more! For you, $3500 more. Makes no sense at all to make the switch especially for that amount of money
After listening as hard and long as I have, It made complete sense to me.
@@Kpaceguy you listened long and hard with the speakers spaced out differently. You aren't being fair to yourself in the assessment. No way on God's green earth that it's worth spending $3,500 more dollars to have a little bit of a different sound and not set up both speakers the right way to AB test them
@@ryanschipp8513A/B was more for RUclips than for me. Had these things 2 yrs I know what they sound like
@@ryanschipp8513 i've asked him. To do a showdown. Just to hear a little of the difference. Too many factors which play a role here. What speakers do you drive? 🎉
@@nathanvanstralendorff2405 I have 3 rigs. Canton Vento 890.2's, Gallo Acoustics Strada 2's, and Gallo Acoustics Classico CL-4's. You?
Those speakers are in totally different price classes. Would be curious about the Canton reference in comparison with the kef.
At the time, they weren't.
Honestly it’s very close, definitely have distinct sounds but maybe a matter of preference
It's 100% a sideways move and not worth paying thousands of more dollars for a sideways move
@@ryanschipp8513 agreed.
Absolutely. Here in Germany we have many guys which goes from kef to canton.
@@RC-qc2nz I believe it. Top to bottom in my opinion the Cantons are practically flawless.
@@ryanschipp8513 you should try the reference series from canton.
what do you mean when you say composure?
When there's a lot of instruments at different volume levels and octaves playing at once, I listen for the speakers ability to keep all those things separated. Sometimes in a group of instruments, one instrument has the solo and if that gets tangled then I refer to it as losing composure or vice versa
I think it might not be fair to test a $6k speaker against a $4k speaker. As you could get Canton reference 8k speakers (pair) for $5k and for$7k you could get the Canton Ref 7k speakers (pair). The 8k’s have 6” woofers, 7k’s have 6.8” woofers. Either are far better speakers than the Vento’s. Low volume listening is likely going to be better w/ Kefs as they are a forward and bright as compared to the Cantons. I prefer a warmer sound and I am primarily a HT guy, with some audiophile tendencies. Can’t fault your choice for the Kef’s though if you are staying in that small apt, I’d advise getting smaller subs that you can actually push in your space. Small room and big subs is like a small carburetor on a big engine, you will never get the best out of them as they can’t breathe. Just something to think about. Appreciate your review.
Good speakers are like women, new ones will be better. My opinion is not one is better overall, they are only different. The KEF is my choice, but you will grow out of it real fast, like I did with the R3. The KEF has a neutral and boring sound, I found a neutral yet exciting sound. YMMV.
Hello. Are these kef r11 GOOD TO LISTEN TO ROCK AND HEAVY METAL?
Yes
@@Kpaceguy Thanks for the answer, I have another question: Is there an amplifier that doesn't exceed €1000 that can be used with these R11s? Thank you very much
@@MrSarapintas emotiva
I think the coaxial mid/tweet of the KEF gives them superior imaging and phase coherence.
I Like the canton's frequency range though! Which is probably why I feel the Cantons have a taller sound stage yet I STILL favor the KEF despite the difference in overall upper frequency reach. Interesting!
Have you heard both speakers?
@@ryanschipp8513 Yes. I think the above makes the KEFs more transparent too.
@@markhampton7559 where did you hear them side by side in person? I have heard them also but in person and the Canton tweeter is more transparent for sure
@@markhampton7559 what do you describe as transparency? If you say. Soundstage: big yes. Due to crossover and driver arrangement. (coaxial) but ceramic tweeter is a lot hotter(technically) this makes the canton sound more forward, crisp and transparant. At least to my ears. This is how canton and kef differ. I've been to many audio shows. Kef blade is a good example coherency, wide soundstage but notched down treble which i like. Many people like b&w for hot (transparant sounding) tweeters. But everyones ears are different. What speakers do you have?
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I've compared about the same, but chosen the Canton reference 7k :)
Those are amazing
Did you disconnect the center channel for this test, or is this video before you received it?
This is before I received it
What song did you use?
David Celeste - My darling
Lo mimieux - le ballet de L
Courses- where do we go from here
Elijah N - On my own
Canton of cause!
Both speakers where close but you neeed to get the Canton speakers that are more in the same price range as the KEFs
Yes there is a new vento line but there's almost no chance of getting them
sound coming from the Kef's R11 is fuller more detailed, Kef's are warmer by far. Canton's are restraint in the voice and music seem to be further in the distance, not forward.
Why don't you choose the Vento 100 for comparison?
Buying anything canton is very very hard
The Kefs sound fuller to me. There is a bit of tinny ringing in the Cantons. IMO
Felt like the Kefs had a more full sound when compared to the Cantons. But during louder parts of the songs the difference were not that vast. I only watch movies and they we’re almost identical during the Hacksaw Ridge demo.
Listening on B&W 702s2 and KEF have more imaging than Cantons, so I definitely think KEF is better but also your giving them abit more space too.
Personally I’ll stick with B&W 702s2 tho but they price match KEF R11s per. pair
B&W speakers are the way to go would say beat these brands at this series in comparison!
@@baycchief3785 you need to chill
@@junior-OG Yeah i'm chilling just speaking of the fact
bowers get so annoying in the highs...like the beyerdynamic-peak...good for people over 60...
@@jonasgmunder7214 I disagree. The tweeter is bright sounding but also is crisp, clear, and detailed. The tweeter has smoothness especially with 700s and 800s series line. Now the 600s line can be abit fatiguing and sharp/harsh.
B&W do take a lot of power to make them shine and proper speaker placement but if hooked up correctly they are beautiful.
Furthermore it also depends on AMP / DAC and the Quality of recording. Because a bad recording may lead to a bad experience. Streaming is definitely not super high quality as there is a lot of compression.
But each to their own, that is why there are many speaker brands with different sound signatures.
KEF!!!
KEEEEEEEEEF!!!
Ok......but why??
@@ryanschipp8513 why not ?
@@junior-OG I'm asking Joe to explain...that's all. In my opinion they offer very similar performance. Oh, and the Cantons are $2000 less.
Canton for me. I know this was posted a year ago, the new Canton Reference series is out. You should check them out.
I want to. But Canton is hard to get
@@Kpaceguy Buy from overseas. I wanted to get a pair of Dynaudio Evoke 50, the local dealer was charging too much, I ended up buying a pair from Spain. Even including shipping to Asia was still cheaper than what I would have had to pay.
@@Rascallucci wow that's crazy
@@Kpaceguy Yep.
Music major in my eyes oozes credibility! 😬 Havent watched yet but you should threw that info in the beginning more often!🤔😉😇 PS: keep what you have seems to be the opinion here!
Yes I don't really mention my background but it comes in sooo handy with my channel
You do know in order to really give them an accurate test they should be spaced within their optimal range. Meaning in this setup you have the kefs spread out wider than the cantons. That alone will give them a wider soundstage. Also you mentioned that you have no bias towards one or the other but yet you are in the midst of selling your Canton speakers? You've already mentally told yourself you're selling them so naturally you're mentally going to tell yourself that the kef speakers sound better. If you really think the things through that I just said it really makes sense.
The whole room is too small for both as it is. I really wish you'd stop arguing with me. It's beyond audio at this point. Its just simply annoying.
@@Kpaceguy I understand that but moving speakers an inch at a time makes sonic differences and I know you know that. There can be a huge difference when you have them spaced out a foot less
@@ryanschipp8513 yes you're absolutely right. It's something I mentioned in the video
You have to remember I had these speakers TWO years. This demo wasn't the end all be all. 2 years in a lot of different arrangements.
@@Kpaceguy honestly it doesn't matter how long you've had them and in different Arrangements they need to be in the same arrangement and a fair arrangement in order to say one is better than the other.
And down the audiophile rabbit hole we go, I thought listening to this on my phone the kefs were brighter and the cantons, more bass and neutral, I prefer the kefs
KEF'S sound better for sure!
Kef came across much more open, especially with vocals. The Canton seemed more restrained which sucks the life from music.
Hey After Months Later, You Say Kef's Are Like That Right??? Alot Of People Are Talking About These Speakers 🔊 Bro!!!
I still love them
That Canton you can buy for 2000€... if you want to compare Canton with that KEF you should use Canton Reference series. You should use "clear " source-amplifer path, not sound processing thighs....
Kef and Canton are the same price
You've also got to think about the price difference. Is it worth that price difference❓
It's 50/50. I think the cantons punch well above their price and loved every moment with them. Incredibly impressive. Kef r11s are a bit more expensive and not 2 grand better than cantons. Most people will say no. But for me I'm using it home theater and the bookshelves and atmos speakers and etc are better so as a whole, yes I absolutely love my switch in speakers. If it were just 2 ch. No. Not worth the price
I mostly hear the tweeter on the canton but On the kefs you just don’t hear the tweeter you hear the mid bass and a more fuller sound
You would have to hear them in person. The RUclips audio isn't going to give you the real representation. I own a pair of Canton vento speakers and I assure you that from top to bottom they are extraordinary and the Tweeter and the high frequency is magical. What you're hearing in the k e f speaker is more of a unrevealing sound
@@ryanschipp8513 so would say the kef is a upgrade over the canton?
@@Lowkey_nxthxn definitely not. Not when you are comparing these exact models. It's a sideways move. And.....the Cantons are 2k less! With the right electronics the Canto Ventos are end game speakers for the majority of the masses.
@@ryanschipp8513 you make a very good point about end game speakers for the cantons. In this hobby everyone will always wanna hear a different signature in speakers.
@@Lowkey_nxthxn 👍
Cantons are good but not good in midrange and power handling i have a set of 2.2 DC for sale.
Definitely Kefs were better!!! Stronger in the movie segment. In all categories - More clarity , wider soundstage , warmer sound.
Yes!
The kefs look more room freindly imo
KEF的声音是正确的，平坦 开放 自然，CANTON的太紧 刺耳 僵硬。
I prefer the kefs the noise floor is lower on them.
Lol! Huh? I have a pair of Canton Vento 890.2's.......quiet as a mouse. Must be your electronics...
@@ryanschipp8513 what I was referring to "noise floor" I meant the speakers "disappear ". You can hear all of the nuances and micro details in the music and yes canton makes a great speaker as well
@@johnhovanec6240 okay got you, I've heard both speakers and it's a sideways move especially for him dropping $3,500 more dollars
4k for my Cantons 2.2 DC I paid 8k which i am taking a lost but 4k they are yours they are 1year.
Are you advertising in the comment section? Lol
@@Kpaceguy not really I just want to sale them have no space.
if you really looking for a good speak for life its Magico S7 and S5 you piss your pants.
From what I heard, the KEF is more open and the upper range is clearer. I prefer the warmer midrange of the Canton. The KEF is louder and more integrated, and that's the blend between the tweeter and mods. On the bass side, the KEF actually sounded better with smaller drivers
i can tell you the cantons have pretty good internals compared to the kefs...take a look at a deep unboxing video between the two..
I haven't watched it but I've heard and I believe it
Ah well. The Canton are down to 899/799 EUR each by now. The KEF are still at 1798 EUR each. Is it really double the quality? Don‘t think so. I just bought the canton at 899 EUR. They upgrade so often that the price declines are ridiculous. And then the quality is unmatched compared to price.
They're down in price because of the new line of ventos
@@Kpaceguy I know that :-)
I bought the main speakers at this price from my local hifi dealer, where I bought my first 5.1 set 20 years ago and wait for the price to drop more for center and rear. The 896-set has the top center at 500 and the rears at 400 EUR, so I’ll wait for this price point for the best center for my generation of ventos. Music is the main concern, my 20 year old focal chorus do not cut it, while they’re good enough for home cinema until then. Someday I will upgrade to atmos, but they do not need to be the same generation.
At this time a marantz 8000 series from today will be more affordable. For me, Hifi does not need to be the newest line. They need to deliver what I want, nothing more. For bi-amping the mains and dolby atmos I need at least 9 channels. There are used top line onkyos for 500 EUR or older line but new 1400 EUR marantz that do the job even now.
Maybe airplay 3 or the newest fire tv will include high res audio by then. we‘ll see.
But I will buy subwoofers from a different company that have an actual punch. It seems that the canton for the ventos do not deliver enough. Would you agree to that? I have seen them clipping and being a bit slow. Or am I wrong?
All in all I plan to stay within 4000 EUR, while the same set bought new including the newest marantz would have been at 11000 EUR. Canton still charges 9000 EUR for the speaker set alone, while the market price is already at 5200 EUR. I‘ll wait for the price drop, the difference easily affords a decent three week holiday :)
You can really not tell. When you heard such high end speakers in real life it is a big difference between 6000 dollars and 2000 dollars speakers
Was in a studio,wanted to by the R11, really, no chance, Canton was a lot better! Canton was more clear, much better high, (B&W was best!).Kef has only a good Marketing, no one who really heard them can understand that they are rated so well on the internet. I think the ratings and tests must be sponsored or supported by kef.
No lol
That goes for Canton as well, especially in Germany. Every single hifi magazine or website always praises any German speaker, be it Canton, Magnat, Elac, etc.
That‘s because they are their biggest ad clients.
Every canton review is like „this speaker only costs 50 Euro, but it‘s up there with the best of the best in the 20k range“.
KEF all the way...
Silly comparison, entirely different price league. Vento 896.2 DC are just 2000 now in Europe (pair !), there are not many speakers in that price range that can compete with Canton here. Probably only Monitor Audio with their Silver line and maybe Polk with their R700.
It's rather shocking that a speaker that is more than double the price of the Vento doesn't actually clearly beat it, just shows how great the Vento line was when it got introduced.
For a more apples to apples comparison the K11 would need to face the Canton Reference line, that's probably where KEF is going to fall short.
At one point the cantons were much more until they released their Revamped vento line. And now kef has their Revamped R line
Wassup with all them damn pillows?
Fill the couch. Nothing special
@@Kpaceguy great content though it just looks like you don’t have a place to sit without a pillow getting in the way
@@Prettytony0627 yeah so I move them lol
Just seen your name on a car
Haha what's up!
Canton is not even near to kef, the kef r11 is much better speaker, while canton have poor directivity, distortion of Canton at 90dB is 1% in mid range while the Uniq drom kef at 90dB have only 0.1% THD, even canton reference K have much higher distortion than kefs R, kef reference is another galaxy to what canton can do, distortion are even lower. Also cabinets are better objevtive.
Kefs had fuller midbass
It's really a side step. For so much more money you could buy a bunch of good subs or a new high end TV or something else. The sonic performance is on par and I get why you want something new. But that feeling of the new toy won't last as long.
I know guys which started with kef and went to canton.
So it's just preference. I guess you are not really honest to yourself and you see in the comments other guys which thinks the same. Espacially with long experience or professionals. I hope that you don't get into the "audiophile gear" wheel.
Lol I'm keeping my subs!!! Especially in this apartment. 2 Rythmik g25hps and a smaller Def tech. The bass is solid! And I just spent way too much on a ultra short throw projector. My goal is to listen to everything. I've never been unhappy with any of my purchases including now.
The Cantons have a very strange sound with voices during the music. It is very apparent. They seem to have no body to them.
They definitely do. But when you put them side by side it feels like it lacks a full sound. It's so weird.
I wonder how they would sound with no EQing on them. I would be interested in a side by side with zero EQ on either one.
@@danblack4564 if enough people requested it I could do it
@@Kpaceguy by no than a request without EQ pure audio
Kef lots more expensive
There is a lot of hissing noise
It's from the mic. There's zero in the room
@@Kpaceguy ohh..it gives the speakers a bad sound 😅
@@eyeshezzy I personally didn't hear it when I watched it but it's too late now
@@Kpaceguy yeah . I had to look up other demos on RUclips from nman and Thabarmar to get a better understanding of how they really sound
@@eyeshezzy that's a bad idea
KEFF besser
Canton👎
They sound better than they appear on RUclips