Ibn Taymiyya - The Father of Salafism?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- In this video we talk about a scholar who represents the very opposite tendency compared to many other figures we have discussed on this channel. Ibn Taymiyya is a controversial thinker, but one that has had a major impact on the contemporary Islamic world.
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Abrahamov, Binyamin (1998). "Islamic Theology: Traditionalism and Rationalism. Edinburgh University Press.
El-Rouayheb, Khaled & Sabine Schmidtke (2019). "The Oxford Handbook of Islamic Theology". Oxford University Press.
Hoover, Jon (2019). "Ibn Taymiyya". In the Makers of the Muslim World Series. OneWorld.
Moustafa, Mohamed A. (2017). "Upholding God's Essence: Ibn Taymiyya on the Createdness of the Spirit". Journal for the History of Islamic Philosophy and Sciences. 3(2): 1-43.
Skeikh, Mustafa (2007). "Ibn Taymiyya, Analogy and the Attributes of God". Faculty of Theology, University of Oxford.
#IbnTaymiyya #Islam #Salafism
This is a fascinating video that puts a lot of what we’re seeing today in its proper perspective. Thank you for this delightfully respectful, truthful, and entertaining video!
yes, we see muslims defending killing apostates largely based on ibn taimayya. what do you think of his fatwa of his calling for the killing the druze as apostates?
Sacking? Mongols sacking Baghdad is quite putting lightly. They slaughtered at least a quarter million ppl like animals and raized the city to ground.
If they only sacked, seen some art and literature would have been saved.
Is there any archaeological proof of the quarter-million claim?
@@genekalutsky8813 They burned people like they burned books. Can't find proof if ppl turned to dust if thats what you are implying.
@@Roland_Deschain The burning of the books was invented in 14th century AFAIK. And modern estimates for victims of the sacking do not exceed 90 000
@@Roland_Deschain People don't burn up completely even in crematoria. The quarter-million victims claims are clearly exaggerated.
@@genekalutsky8813 Burning books have happened since ancient times from Greece to China
Thank you so much Philip for all the amazing content that you post on your channel. I was looking for this video for so long. It came right on time. If you can do another one on Ibn Al Qayim Al Djawziya that would be awesome. Once again a million thanks :)
Thank you so much for sharing this figure. Such a comprehensive video! Indeed, it is difficult to consider Ibn Taymiyya a Sufi, because usually academics categorise a Sufi into two schools, either "Tasawwuf Sunni" or "Tasawwuf Falsafi". However, Ibn Taymiyya himself in fact cannot be classified into these two schools of Sufism. Fazlur Rahman felt the need to make up a new typology to cover Ibn Taymiyya's Sufism style outside of Sunni Sufism and Falsafi Sufism. This typology is termed neo-Sufism by him. The views of Ibn Taymīyah and his loyal disciple, Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, are then classified as neo-Sufism. These two classical figures are considered by him the pioneers of neo-Sufism; a Sufism school characterised by a great emphasis on moral motives and the application of the methods of remembrance and muraqabah to God.
In contrast to Rahman, several academics such as Mustafa Hilmi and 'Abd al-Qadir Mahmud categorise the position of Ibn Taymiyya's Sufism outside the typology of Sunni Sufism and Falsafi Sufism as well as neo-sufism, that is "Salafi Sufism" (al-Tasawwuf al-Salafi). This typology is considered in line with the model of Salafism of Ibn Taymiyya.
he is successful in uncovering the disgrace of sufism in many of his works. The name tasawwuf itself was considered heretical because not a product of the prophet and his companions or the tabiin. How could he be considered a Sufi if the name itself was rejected by him.
I think he just criticized the extreme sufis, despite many, but not all of them...
@@alturatsalturats9691 You shouldn't project the present onto the past. He was not anti-Sufi and I even read a 14th (iirc) century Islamic book about many Muslim Awliya' that referred to him as a Sufi. Most modern-day Sufis would agree with a lot of his critiques of popular sufism practiced by lay people. Let's not create divides where they don't exist.
@Qizilbash Salafiyah isn't a thing to begin with, the meaning of Salafiyah is the return to the pure islamic teaching of the Quran and prophet without whatever Sufi's scholars innovations
@Qizilbash @Qizilbash but it is a historical fact based on the hadith: "the best people are those living in my generation, and then those who will follow them, and then those who will follow the latter." Inevitably the name Salafiyah was literally not known but as a factual history it is not merely "a name".
Do video on imam ahmed rida khan and his research on Science astronomy and deen stuff you will get brilliant concept about him
Agreed
british agent. next.
@@watcanib3161 lol. But seriously, ARK is a figure that is very interesting - a figure whose works are disconnected from those who claim to follow him
Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was a slave of Allah with incredible achievements:
-Hāfidh of the Qur’an ,memorised 60,000 hadīths ,learnt Aqeedah & hanbali fiqh by age of 7.
-Started giving Duroos to students older than him at age of 8.
-Gave Khutba by age of 17.
-Became Mufti of Damascus by age of 22.
- Had ability to memorise avg of 3-4 books a day
-Used to write books in days which other Ulama used to take longer period
-Authored over 900 books (some went upto 70 volumes)
-Wrote 300 books in prison only with memory alone and without any references.
-Used to provide detailed answers when he was asked any question.
-Waged Jihad against the Mongols who invaded Muslim lands.
-Used to be forefront in the battlefield and rode horses bravely.
-Used to motivate people to fight bravely for Sake of Allah in the battlefield and used to give them short talks until the enemies approach them.
-Died in Prison due to illness and left behind him an unpayable legacy.
-Around 500,000 people attended his funeral.
May Allahﷻ Have Mercy upon him and Grant him a high status in Jannah.
Ameen , brother thank you for the knowledge, 90 percent of Indian Muslims 99 percent of Bangladeshi Muslims 99 percent of Malaysia n Muslims 99 percent of Indonesia n Muslims follow him currently
Amin
@@mdi786 lmao no, I am from indonesia, most of indonesians don't have any idea of who ibn taymiya is, although salafi movement is growing here, but many rejected salafi due to it's backwardness, and since the connection with our ancestor is really important, most of indonesians don't feel comfortable after learning more about salafi.
Even last month a salafis boarding school was burnt by the people around the school, after one of the teacher said " visiting the ancestral grave is haraam, it's not that different with poop of animal".
I was raised as salafi, and I already left it for years since its full of violent and backwardnesa lmao.
If you let sunnies tell histories:
Ibn Taymiyyah
- Superman who flew to moon
(In his fantasies worshiping it)
- Spiderman who juped to roofs
(Who from house tops mislead)
- Ironman whose heart is of iron
(So mislead, his heart hardened)
Pagan sunnies: "Quran and SssunNnAhhhkh"
Again sinni: "following Quran alone misleads".
that photo of Muhammed ibn Abul Wahab is not him, he died before the invention of the camera lol
“The rising is acknowledged, its modality is unknown, and asking about it is an innovation.” Imam Malik
can u make a video about al-qarafi and his approach to the limitation of the state?
Peace from Germany
May Allah have mercy of shaykh Al islam ibn taymiyyah
Yes he wanted to abandon tradition by following an older tradition. Indeed. Very refomist
exactly that what happened
Very interesting. His take on why the Mongols were beat them, sounds almost the same as what Jewish prophets came up with. I.e. It's because of our sin. Personally, I find that reasoning only goes so far, but I understand in times of trouble, it's easier to put the blame on your community rather than on God.
Not because our sins but because we have strayed from our path and a lot of innovation in religion start to appear.
@@MohammadAlmansouri so because of sin then
@@maalikserebryakov simply in islam we believe God give us laws and legislation and God said if you want peace in this life and the life after follow this laws, and we have examples from the first generation Muslims that this laws worked, if you don't want to follow the laws no problem with that but don't say why people suffer or why God doesn't love us
to be honest and this maybe a strange fact for you
mongols where muslims in the time of ibn tamiyya
@@ahmadjundi2578 the earlier Muslim mongols only converted to appease the majority Muslim population
Thank you for the informative video.
Muslim history couldn't produce such a scholar, Ibn-e-Taymiyah was the great and revolutionary Imam, He was anti Hanafi, anti Sufism, anti shiat, anti bid'at and full of jihadi school of thought
He was not anti-Hanafi, rather was against the blind taqleed. Ibn Taymiyyah named all four scholars Abu Hanifah, Malik, ash-Shafii and Ahmad as Imams. Don't pay much attention to what shaykh Adil al-Hamdan, Muhammad Shamsuddin, al-Khulayfi and other minor shuyukh and tullab may utter in their strange way.
@al-Baa7ith-3an-il-Ma3rifah
There is a chance that he was actually anti-hanafi but wasn't publicly so because he was afraid that he would be persecuted by the Hanafis, just like how they tried to kill Abdul-Ghani al-Maqdsi. The Hanafis had a huge influence during their Times, thanks to the Turks who were mostly Hanafis.
@@Emir_969 If Ibn-e-Taymiyah didn't exist then the Aman Ghazali legacy might go forward, but thanks to Allah who introduced Ibn-e-Taymiyah for killing the Shia school of thought and killed the Hanafism, otherwise Muslims still praying in kaba with four musallahs
@@beltgrinderspakistan
In Ibn Taymiyya's refutation of the Subki Book, he actually recognizes that most of the Salaf considered Abu Hanifa a Heretic which is a huge sign that he was covertly Anti-Hanafi. The Hanafis are also responsible for the spread of Shia Tafzilism between Sunnis, thanks to their ignorance of Hadith Sciences, which made them vulnerable to all the Fabricated Hadiths about Ali's virtues by Shias.
That was so beautiful detailed version of Ibn e Temiyah
Ibn Taymiyya is source of most problems of Muslims today
My only thing is, no matter what religion, if you choose to become more conservative/strict/fundamental, rejection innovation, then completely live entirely that way: reject modern technology like computers, cars, weapons, etc.
If you REALLY wanna be pure, the only way to live EXACTLY the predecessors lived, and even REFUSE to interact with modern society. Go off the grid and really practice your beliefs.
All else is just unpure. If you're gonna be strict, really strict.
Just to clarify, ibn Taymiyyah wasn't against visiting the graves of pious saints per se. What he was against was the travelling specifically for visiting the graves, and he was against the innovations that he saw occur aroud those graves. A lot of his enemys accused him of forbidding the visiting but that isnt correct.
The father of extremism
No that always exsited 🤡
Big up on your Channel! I learned a lot. You should definitely look into biographies of the 12 infallible imams from the household of the Holy prophet Muhammad ﷺ 🤲 would love to watch what you discover
The only Muslims who regard them as infallible are twelver Shi'ites.
@@MB-tb6jy most sufis that trace their silsilah through Holy Prophet ﷺ and Imam Ali A.S does as well
@@simona3895 Yes, but we don't say that anyone in our Ummah other than our Rasul ﷺ, is infallible.
@@MB-tb6jy I'm free and blessed by Allah Azzawajal to believe what I believe - Im not seeking approval from men but from Allah swt alone. If I want to believe the hadith, narrations and narrative from Ahlulbayt (pbut) and the companions of Imam Ali A.S because I believe in my heart the truth is with them - you shouldnt bother. I dont bother that 90% of muslims dont believe nor care about nor cant grasp the concept of the 14 Infallibles (pbut) even though all praying muslims sends their salawat to them in every prayer. To you is your religion and to me is my religion and to this guy making these videos is his religion - that's the power of our free will granted to us by The Most High. So I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but God bless you on your journey. All the best to you and anyone else reading this.
@@simona3895 When did I say or indicate that I was being bothered by what you believe? I was just making it clear that the belief that the 12 Imams are infallible is a Twelver-Shi'ite belief, so that people (non-Muslims mainly) don't assume that that this is a general Islamic belief. Anyways, I don't think more needs to be said in this regard and it's probably just better to drop it from now onwards.
So many problems in the world can be traced back to few persons in history...
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May Allah have mercy on Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiah Rahimahullah for his balanced understanding of Islamic creed and straunch opposition to religious innovations and saint and grave worshipping.
And he "corrected" God and his prophet, 700 years after the last revelation.
Just created a religion based on his taste and (mis) understanding of actual Islam.
@@farzein4002 an expected answer from ahlul biddah ..nvm may allah swt make u and me strict on the path of prophet pbuh and his companion
@@mannankhavi7596 you completely misunderstanding what a Buddha is...
If someone "correcting" God and Prophet then he is a bidditi (i.e. Ibne timiya and Abdul wahab).
@@farzein4002 give an example
@@farzein4002 I'll give u one
Seeking tawassul thru dead
Are u guys that smart
To make something opining to be as good deeds which prophet pbuh didn't do which allah swt didn't commanded
Inauzbillah
introducing in this perfect religion should be considered correcting the creator instead of someone who's call was tawheed
Amazing video!. Would love to see a video on Ibn Al Qayyim the foremost student of Ibn Taymiyyah.
The distinguished students of Ibn Taymiyyah are many and they had a great influence in the Islamic library, some of them excelled in jurisprudence, interpretation of the Qur’an, doctrine, etc.
@@عبدالله-ن6ه2ص tell us some of theese other students other than ibn Qayyim
@@dom3073 ibn Rajab, Ad dhahabi, Ibn kathir
Islamic medicine, if there's any, covered by Ibnul Qoyyim Al Jauzi, this topic is good for future video
@@dom3073 there is ibn rajab a very known hanbali scholar which rulings are still followed till today by hanbali scholars, Al-dhahabi which work on hadith is used by everyone, and ibn kathir, which tafsir is the most well known and famous today, mohammad ibn abdul hadi al-maqdisi the writer of Al-mu7arrir in hadith, jamal al-deen al-muzzi the one who wrote tahtheeb al-kamal, A very known book in hadith, ibn mufli7 al-maqdisi, who also is known for his hanbali fiqh
God Bless Shiekhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah
ISIS 🥷
God will never bless stupidity and ignorance.
@@aristotleinbottle8012 That's why you should very, very worried and try to educate yourself about real Islam.
@@eelmohamed he has aristole in his name, he is either a philosopher or part of the ahlul bidah lmaooo
It's always good to understand why people turn to violence and murder as a righteous cause because it's being done to them.
Whoa. This is one massive achievement. You should really be proud of what you just did. Thank you so much my man!
stop bothering him by asking are you muslim are you muslim ! better to search .
@@wriimonmir it’s a little weird of you to tell this commenter to stop saying something when they’re not even saying that in the comment..
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So salafism rose during the Mongolian invasion and revived during the colonial invasion 🤔
its much deeper
Ibn Taymiyyah didn’t have much followers after his death
Salafism is a modern movement. He is simply a retroactive influence on it
@@thirdocean3784 Unfortunately, mostly women i've heard because of his stances on divorce, which was much more relax than conservative scholars, but Allah knows best.
Welp looks like we know what's coming due to western invasions...
"Saying GOD has a hand but unlike our hands such and such..." is tashbiyh, the other side of the coin to tajsiym.
Ibn Taymiyya errors are twofold, in Fiq'h and in 'Aqiyda (ie he clearly delve into Kalaam something that Hanabila do not allow in their Asthaariyya creed). When the Shaykhul Islaam, Imaam Taqiyuddiyn As-Subkiy RHM said he learnt without a guide/teacher, it was in reference to his second errors, as he is held in high regards among the Hanabila, unfortunately, where he is ranked at the 3rd or 4th level in their scholarship ranking, again unfortunately.
The 2nd problem is where the real issue is. Since Hanabila can't really deal with his Kalaam without delving into Kalaam themselves, his Kalaam thus fall into the jurisdiction of the Ash'ariyya scholarship to deal with.
His final legacy is dividing Muslims whenever his name is mentioned.
His greatest legacy is that his name can never unify the Muslims and will forever split and tear apart any Muslim society where his name surfaces among them.
One can never escape their lifetime's handiwork.
The most accurate description of his legacy.. kudos
Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله will be greater than you will ever be
@@You.are.correct.however he is most probably burning in hell as we speak.
@@MohamadAlb Fear Allah you jahil! Who are you to say that to someone like Ibn Taymiyyah, you aren’t even worth one of his hairs on his beard!
@@You.are.correct.however LOL.
Thanks for proving me correct, mate.
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What can my enemies do to me? My Paradise is in my heart; it goes with me wherever I am. If they kill me, it is martyrdom. If they exile me from my land, it is a vacation in the Path of Allah. If they imprison me, it is to allow me a private devotion with Allah.
Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah).
He was not a good person, he was full of hate and was looking for a ways to justify killing other human beings
and he said 'kill the druze'. what do you think of that?
@@mikemalzahn nothing wrong with that in my opinion, cope harder
I'm a native Arabic Muslim and I've been researching Islamic literature for as far as i can remember, and to be honest, your coverage was far beyond my imagination and exposed me to some ideas i have never thought of. Great effort man really appreciate it 🙏
Well, I'm a native Arab ex-Muslim and this channel is my favorite in term of honest research, no BIAS in favor or against any mythology including Islam. Other RUclipsrs( atheists and theists) are subjective in their reporting .
I literally never heard about Ikhwan al-Safa or Al-Hachachin until I started following this amazing channel.
Doubt
@@farhatk6054 why you left islam? Is islam really not true or it is but we see it from radical pov
@@farhatk6054 why have you left Islam? I've never found a good reason for it
@@zaryabshah3268 @عمر
I left Islam znd religion over all simply because when you (really) dig into it, it does not make any sense, for Islam for instance, a lot of Quranic verses and stories of Muhamed spitting the moon, riding on a horse to the 7th sky where Allah exists ( I thought he were everywhere ?) and tons of stories that completely contradicts science and basic common sense.
You should do Ibn Hanbal next!
I feel like there's going to be a lot of controversy surrounding this video no matter what you say 😂.
Haha I agree bro
Oh yes. Ibn Tamiya is a cursed pig
@@husshuss2652 ffs haha don't let a wobbler see this comment 😂
i feel u too Landon,look at your replies..(aside than me lol)
@@WanBerry yeah 😭🥴
This Salafi moment reminds me a lot of the broader Protestant and Puritan Christian movements in the much later centuries that aimed to "purify" the dominant religion which was perceived to have strayed away it's origin both carrying a similar legacy in their respective realms of influence (but obviously with different overall timelines/trajectories). There is also some ideological similarity in his legal approach to what we would call Constitutional Originalism in the modern United States.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Protestantism and Salafism are essentially the same movement but one resulted in a very liberal culutre and the other a very conservative one
@@emZee1994 I disagree, both have resulted in varying degrees of progressivism and conservatism at different points in time. And ultimately while both are technically "radical" their goal is to conserve a form of religiosity that they perceive as true, pure, and original. Those two theological movements, although coming from a similar thought process, they have been impacted by different material cultures and histories which impacts how they are perceived by wider society and between societies.
Also - it seems to me - they both have a literalist approach when it comes to how they intrepret the religious texts.
@@SanFranFan30 Two parallel lines starting from different points will end at different points. This doesn't deny the parallel aspect (although I agree that this is oversimplification, unlike atoms, subjects involving humans cannot be put into mathematical formulas)
@@ChannelDefault spot on.
رحم الله شيخ الإسلام ابن تيميه🦅🇸🇾
How can you say that?
He poisoned Islam, and the logical fallacies he committed are very easily refuted.
Plus, thanks to him, ISIS and all the terrorists use his ideas and carry out his fatwas, and people were killed and women were raped by this man’s ignorance.
He is a plague to the Muslim uma, and for a man who claimed that we should adhere to the prophet’s way, he inspired the complete opposite of what our prophet taught us.
Wake up man!
Awesome, I suggest that you make a video about people who lived when Moghols attacked the Islamic countries.There are lots of people who had a great influence on Islamic world that lived in that century, people like Rumi or Ghazali or some of the most famous Iranian poets. I think it would be great if you analize their life through the context which they lived in.
There is no time in Islamic world that they have this number of famous people.
Ghazali has much to answer for
He already made a video on imam-al-ghazali..
Ghazali lived before the mongol invasion .
His influence in the Islamic world is gigantic compared to Ibn tahmiyah.
The reason why ibn tahmiyah didn't have a lot of influence during his time is because of imam ghazali.
Of course it would have been nice if they lived at the same time. Tahmiyah would have learned a thing or two about Islam through imam ghazali.
Not to say that ibn tahmiyah was less of a scholar. Afterall he was called Shaykh al-Islām.
@@vinlondon8904 hahahaha how ignorant of you comparing sheikh al Islam ibn taymiya to al Ghazali obviously Ibn taymiya is way beyond his league because unlike Ghazali ibn tamiya sticks to Quran and sunnah Ghazali didn’t that why in his last days it was very very hard for him to get out from doubts
@@ismailmounsif1109 shake Islam my ass, every one hate us because of him
11:29
Ibn Taymiyyah wasn't against dhikr, this is completely false . The asal of dhikr is established from Qur'ān and Sunnah. Instead what he was against is dhikr in unison i.e people sitting together and reciting and praising Allah's name together in one voice. This according to him was bida' and not the dhikr itself.
So according to Ibn Taymiyyah if people get together inorder to remember Allah i.e dhikr its fine as long as they dont start doing this in unison in one voice. He (Ibn Taymiyyah) will call this bida' because it wasn't established from Qur'ān and Sunnah and neither the first three generations....
I am sorry, but despite his achievements.
Despite his strength of character.
Despite his piety and his honor.
I can not respect a man, who calls for the killing of thousands by declaring them apostates. A man who calls for the eradication of the different.
A man who refuses to allow to let the peaceful live in peace.
If the Alawites or Druze attacked regular sunnis, sunnis of course should be allowed to defend themselves, but to call for their extinction, because they are different in belief is evil.
Excellent video, and a fair coverage IMO.
Since you spoke about Bi-La Kayf and Kalam, can you also make videos about Al-ash'ari, Athari, and Al-Maturadi, and the Islamic theology of absolute rationalism (late mu'tazilah)?
EDIT: Also hoping you explain to people tawil and tafwid.
Mut'azila are weirdos
@@bayern1445 just like the wobblers
@@r.a1301
What is your problem with
Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab رحمه الله ?
That should be left to Islamic theologians
those who lie about Allah?
Thanks. Great as always. Please make a detailed video on how neoplatonism, gnosticism and sufism have influenced Ismailism. Would love to see your take on it.
The compilation of the Qur’an was not an innovation, it was done by the Prophet's companions themselves, like zaid ibn thabit who was a personal scribe of the prophet, a bidaa (innovation) as explained in the video, is when people start innovating new things which were not practiced neither by the prophet nor by his companions and the two first generations, because the companions of the prophet were not innovators they can't be innovators since they were the ones whom the prophet taught directly.
but cant certain parts about the quran be considered bidah? for example the order of the surahs? who decided that?
@@-LTUIiiin No there's no certain parts about the Qur'an that is bidaah.. the order of ‘Surahs’ in the Qur`an are considered as ‘tawqifi’ ie as determined by the Prophet under divine guidance. there is no ijtihad in it. Jibreel - revealed it, and the Messenger of God - peace be upon him - informed his companions of this order and arrangement, and scholars have several evidences for this opinion.
The consensus of the Companions and scholars all from the time of the Prophet to our time, and no one disagreed with this order, and therefore the scholars favored this opinion, that the order of the surahs of the Qur’an was Tawqifi, which was revealed by God - the Most High - to Gabriel (pbuh) - so He sent it down to Muhammad (S.A.W)
But even if we were to assume that some surahs order was done by the ijtihad of some companions of the prophet, it still can't be considered as bidaah as I explained in the last part of my comment that since the companions were direct students of the prophet and the prophet advised us to follow them and The tābi'ūn "successors" generation.
By following them you won't fall into bidaah.
@@davidalbert5425 oh okay, i assumed that the scribes did that on their own
@@-LTUIiiin no they didn't but like I said even if we were to assume they did in their personal copies.. it still won't be considered bidaah since they are the direct disciples of the prophet peace be upon him and they were in agreement upon the order of the surahs.
@@-LTUIiiin since the the whole of Quran u can think of it like a song.. the one who has memorized it knows which comes after which.... Quran is verbally recited atleast 5 times a day.. and memorized word for word by many. so its obvious which sura comes after which..
One can not understand ibn taymiyya without understanding the situation of the middle east in his time.
The middle east today is very similar to his time, a divided post-caliphate muslim world.
This is why he's very popular
You're right
It is true, but his influence is more widespread due to Pan-Islamism and the lack of any substantial power in the region. Although divided, the Mamluk Sultanate was strong, defeating the Crusader and Ilkhanate armies North and West
He is very popular because he was invoked by wahhabi+saudi movement to overtake the rule of Hijaz from the Hashimites, and with enough oil money and the appearance of legitimacy of governing the two holiest cities in Islam you have the situation we have today.
@@ayyashC no, he was also as famous as now before the formation of Saudi Arabia
no it is not the same, today is different kind of worse and but not in every aspects in his time the abbasid caliphate was still existing in egypt as a religious leadership under the political power of mamelooks, but today , Britain and the european powers managed to extinguish the caliphate for good, and the west imposed its plans on the region and forbade any chance for the return of unified muslim state but in the same time there is more access to information and people are more free but not all free from the belief of myths and the lies of suffism
17:25 Are you saying Ibn Taymiyya disagreed with the compilation of the Quran? You mentioned "to Ibn Taymiyya all forms [of innovation] are wrong" and then listed a few things that are regarded as generally positive innovations. If this is the case, where would we find the source of Ibn Taymiyya claiming bid'aa against the compilation of the Quran and other "positive innovations".
Salafism means who follows salaf, something a sahaba does is not considered as a bidah
Ibn Taymiyya, easily one of the most influential and great scholars of islam. Extremely intelligent and pious. May Allah bless him and his family.
Ibn Taymiyyah was based, not saying I agree with all his views, but the man knew how to hold his own.
The hanbali mazhab was actually not the strictest, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal usually gave multiple rulings for issues because he believed in the leniency of Islam.
The strictest mazhab is generally considered to be Hanafi.
I think what he meant was strictest in its methodology brother, hope it helps
Do you have a source on him believing in the leniency of Islam?
Atharee creed basically. Strictly keeping in line with Qur'an and Sunnah and avoiding opinions in the absence of scriptural references.
Nope. the most lenient and has room for the thought and even sufism to express itself is the hanafi. It goes like this Hanafi>shafi'i>Maliki>Hanbali from most lenient to the most extreme
You have never studied fiqh to say this
it seems to me that radical protestant ideas permeated islam in 18th century, and that the clerics at the time searched for some kind of person in the history of islam which held similar views to name it their predecessor. Ibn Taymiyya got that honor.
I think you are 100% correct
I'll mostly agree. I also think there is also some correlation between ibn Taymiyyah living in a post caliphate society and the fact that the salafi movement really took off after the abolition of the Ottoman (caliphate)
@@emZee1994 they are very different, protestants have their own bible... where as Quran is preserved, so Salafis are a true revival...
also liberals can be very strict look at marxism in a moral vacum balance it key!
It's the opposite, salafis are most peaceful and shias are the scorned ones. Turkey in early 1900s was plagued by cultural tasawuf which lead to secularism. Jordan wanted to keep Arabic and rebelled with uk backing, but Jordan lost to Saudis who united Arabia on 1920s.
Saudi formed in 1925 & to 1980 no terror except tel aviv, why? In 73 Saudis & Egypt beat tel aviv for sinai, cia backed iran in 79 to be israelis ally. Iran follow she'a fayruz 1st suicide kariji who knifed Umar then self. Saudi booted al queda, This inspired iran to be original jet bombers, & take in al queda, lie on iraq wmds and leave arms for isil to Aid Assads tyranny.
He was in the way. Plain and simple. You can’t have peace with a person like him around.
What library is the book you authored on establishing peace, stored in? Happy to buy. An Amazon link might be better if you have that on hand.
@@obaid5761 mocking someone for their statement instead of bringing a legitimate counter statement to encourage discussion speaks volumes. Be better. You have every right to disagree, mockery isn't the way to do so.
yeah, he was in the way by having wrong ideas about Allah himself.
@@obaid5761 its called common sense, perhaps you’ve heard of it while not having it. If you study enough history you’ll not ask silly questions.
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@@MultiAmmar2000 you must be Ashari🤣
@@MultiAmmar2000no way the ahlul bidah is saying that Ibn taymiyah is of bidah 😂
Thank you. I I truly appreciate your very informative topics in your videos!
No, he is not. Going back to what the predecessors (Salaf) say is essential in Islam and you can see scholars since the dawn of Islam (except in the beginning, since they were the Salaf themselves) always referencing the Salaf and using their words and actions for guidance.
One of the greatest imams in all of time ❤
True
fazur rahman...d 1988..AND shk Qaradawee..d 1926..?:as to the end? true or not?
Praised be ibn tayimmia because he destroyed islam and saved us from this effort. Since ibn tayimmia islam is in decline and losing itself.
@@sagn1962 ..othe rcomment abiove..qaradawee..didnt die in 1926....? ur comment too sorry to say bit misleading apologies for own mis understandiung.....ibn taymaya did sewrv ice or not..to ie worlds solution islam...?..u hav emuslim name..suspicion sinful..r u muslim
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as to islam decline far from...still growing in numbers...fastestb growing today..y?..yes quality c.f to quantity..zionmiasm..has the capital power
wow...talking falsehood..u the reason ior the satans..trutrh is free as as speech too..ty..may Allah Allaha as jesus called Him too..ie not his self..ie pray to himself....reward us all..have a song..through heavens eyes..the the ...stevens things..meeeeeooooow...
Allah bless ..as His light shines on..deut 33 1 2 3...the fig tree chapter...palestine olive hill...freedom awaits...Allah Akbar
Ibni Tymmia believed in the outer nd superficial meaning of the Quran nd unawared of the inner meaning nd the inner of the inner meaning of the Quran,,,He misinterpreted Hadith nd issued the fitwa of executing the blasphemous of the holy Prophet.
Alhamdulillah!!! Here is yet another informative golden gem in my my way to the journey of Islam. Thanks a lot. It couldn't be much better!!!
May Allah keep you on the truth and being vigilant !
@@Bat7Yamhe doesn't interpret anything he just explains what other people/scholars have said...
You are quite wrong! This view on bidah is a narration from Imam Ahmad! Then there is the grest Andalusian Imam from Shatțibah شاطبة in his masterpiece of a book الاعتصام !!! ابن تيميةdied in 1328 roughly and Imam Shaatibi in 1388 and between them were thousands of miles but both concluded the same thing regarding innovation and its types if any!
Hence the Deobandi Hanafi School adopts the same stance on innovation and they are not fans of ibn Taymia!
What you said about Imam Shafi is so grossly wrong its offensive!!!
Imam Shafi is the father of ijtihaad AND NEVER EVER DID TAQLEED!!!
He was the first to codify the rules/ hermaneutics of the Sharia!!! He always derived his rulins from their evidence sources!!
Ibn Taymia never left the Hanbali school because Imam Ahmad often has 3 possible positions and all ibn Taymia did was give preference to one!
I think the most major contribution of him and his followers is that every Muslim in the world is now being called a "terrorist"
To label Ibne Tamiyya a Thinker is a bit of a stretch. For anyone to justify the Sack of Baghdad by the Mongols as a punishment from God is not only inaccurate but false justification.-( Blame the Victims)-
In recent times the attempted extermination of the Jews by the German Nazis has also been subjected to the same by some Jewish Religious leaders.-( blame the victim)-
It IS true that that Ibne Tamiyya 's writings have been used by the Mullahs in Saudi Arabia and Jehadists to justify THEIR actions but again to CALL him as a THINKER is unjust and unfair.
Socrates, Plato, were thinkers -Newton was a Thinker- Faraday was a Thinker- William Blake was a Thinker.
To call Iben Tamiyya a Thinker is a travesty
Ibn taymiya was a follower of truth.
Indeed, sack of of Baghdad is a punishment from God, but it is not justified.
Events can be punishment, curse, bless or gift, but can be justified or maybe unjustified
Many make the mistake of comparing "Salafism" with Protestantism. The "message" might be the same, but the application and the resources are very much different.
Also, the main divide here is between the Salafists and the Asharite/Maturidites. Shiites are not included in the picture, as they're a completely different breed of Islam and are considered extreme heretics by both Salafists and Asharites (excluding extreme sufis, who share many of Shiites traditions hence they consider Salafists enemies by nature).
The message is clear and simple. We have clear and unambiguous instruction from our Prophet peace be upon him, the companions, and all Imams that follows from the first three generations, that whoever and whatever innovations, big or small, that is introduced into the religion (Islam), is rejected.
This leads to the major division between Salafists and Asharites, is that Asharites, very much later after the Prophet's death (peace be upon him), they went into explaining Allah's nature and attributes in a manner that is extremely new and innovative, bringing in western philosophies and sciences in order to substantiate their beliefs (with good intention ofcourse).
Again, I have to stress the point that the divide between the Salafis and the Ashartes is not as extreme, not even mildly close, as the divide between Sunnis in general and Shiites. This is proven by the adoption of knowledge between Salafis and Asharites, where (majority of) Asharites consider Ibn Taymiyyah as a great scholar (with mistakes), whereas Shias consider him the number 1 heretic and enemy of their religion.
If you want to learn about islam learn from Muslim not kuffar
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Lmao shut up Minecraft obsidian cube worshiper
@@PeterGriffin-fv8yrthat's what happen when you learn religions from reddit
if we look in islamic history there is not a single mujaddid from salfies to islam but on other side..
imam gazali is great sunni sufi scholar
mujaddid alf sani the great sunni sufi scholar..
but after the lawarnace of Arabia project this salafi movement get power by abdul wahab najdi actually the salfism is itself bidah😊
Ibn taymiyah, abdul wahab both are considered as mujjajids
@@Spadegaming321 😁😂
@@KamranKhan-fj4cc can’t debate? 😂😂😂
May Allah have mercy on him Aameen. Sheikhul Islam
do you agree with ibn taimayya that the druze should be killed as apostates?
@shahriar4706 yeah, so how do you square that with Islam supposedly being a tolerant religion? 'the religion of peace' and of course the oft quoted 2:256? I'm i correct to assume you equate someone leaving Islam with 'treason'?
what do you think of the verse fo the koran that says someone believed, then disbelieved and then believed again and so forth? did they always 'repent' in 3 days and therefore weren't killed?
@shahriar4706 إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا۟ ثُمَّ ءَامَنُوا۟ ثُمَّ كَفَرُوا۟ ثُمَّ ٱزْدَادُوا۟ كُفْرًۭا لَّمْ يَكُنِ ٱللَّهُ لِيَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ وَلَا لِيَهْدِيَهُمْ سَبِيلًۢا ١٣٧
4:137 Indeed, those who believed then disbelieved, then believed and again disbelieved-˹only˺ increasing in disbelief-Allah will neither forgive them nor guide them to the ˹Right˺ Way.
-no mention of needing to kill them?
again, am i correct to assume you get your fiqh form the 84th book of bukhari and the quote of muhammad: 'whoever changes his [islamic] religion, kill him'?
What you want to say exactly
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@@mikemalzahnwe don't have an issue with Apostasy Law and I don't care to reconcile that with liberal Muslim delusions that Islam is PURELY PEACE AND TOLERANCE, if Islam was that way, that would be evil and blameworthy, we are also against other immoral ideologies, just as we are anti liberal, we are anti racists, we are anti communists, we are anti idolatry, we are anti Nazism, etc etc, each group has its own unique problems with us and sometimes has similar problems with us, but each group tends to have doubts and disgusts relative to their invented assumptions about what's right or wrong, if you want me to truly take your ideology as truthful then produce proof for your assumptions being truly descriptive of true morality, otherwise if you can't justify these basic beliefs, then why should i be deemed immoral by some fictitious invention guessing at what morality is?
As a modern Salafi, I wanted to thank you for a fair and objective presentation about this topic - you were careful with your words and despite the very difficult subject matter, you really treated it like a completely unbiased documentary. That is truly hard to find nowadays; may Allah reward you.
You have goat beards. You follow the goat. Not God. Wild goatmen.
@@cowsmuggler1646 the Prophet sullalahu alaihi wasallam was a much better man than you, as was Jesus, as was Moses - you are nothing compared to them, yet you make fun of them, and only show your own stupidity and corruption. They all had beards, and if you do not then you are more like a woman than a man.
@@cowsmuggler1646 Why attack em, because he looks like a man? (Unlike you)
@@cowsmuggler1646 vegetable
That's because people are united on division
I understand why harsh killjoys try to control others. What I don't get is why anyone complies with them.
Did you know that although the sufis today hate ibn Taymiyyah, but love his student ibnul qayyim? All his books and his work is loved bei todays sufis. So this makes absolutely no sense, sufis are not rational.
Imam al shafi said when someone becomes a sufi at the time of duhur, he will become a deluded/dumb at the end of the day 💀.
يونس بن عبد الأعلى قال سمعت الشافعي يقول : " لو أن رجلا تصوف أول النهار ، لا يأتي الظهر حتى يصير أحمق " .
وعنه أيضا أنه قال : " ما لزم أحد الصوفية أربعين يوما ، فعاد عقله إليه أبدا "
I think ibn taymiyya is misunderstood and used by religious fundamentalist ( salafis)and misquoted for there own egoistical desires however later on in life ibn taymiyya was a follower of Abdul qadir jalani(Sufi) who is linked with and similar to ibn arabi, also changed his views later on in life, however there was no printing press or internet so his old books that have circulated could not all be recalled and updated during his time, just before he died he became very mystical in thought himself, it's unfortunate that this evil groups use him and quote him, (p.s) I was a salafi myself when I first started practicing and looking for spirituality, I realised that these people are very simple minded and not very intelligent, and driven by ego, please do not think bad of ibn taymiyya because of them, he was a giant scholar a polymath, read him yourself don't listen to what the salafis whabis say about him
Abdul Qadir also followed Salafi Islam, ppl mix up Saudis who te extremists liek al queda who they kicked out. Look up Nasir al Hanbali!
a lot of people claim the aqeedah of Ibn Taymiyyah are the one's of the pious predecessors, even though its creed is not in line with the predecessors, as it emphasizes many ambiguous ayats of the Qur'an literally, whereas the default Athari position was a form of unreflective traditionalism, where you don't ask anything and leave the meaning to god. the Ash'ari and Maturidi do tafwidh, but they add up a meaning to find the hikma behind the ayat, while at the same time knowing that the true meaning is left to Allah. I really hope this makes people understand the difference.
nonetheless, great video, there are some errors in the "Bi la Kayf" of Ibn Taymiyyah, as he imposes the modality of mutashabihat ayats, but a lot of them are pretty descriptive.
I don't know what ibn taymiyyah wrote but atharis do not take make anthropomorphic interpretations.
@@hxyzazolchak depends of what strand of athari we're talking about here, the true athari (which lives on through Ibn Qudamah) creed is the creed of the shahaba, which is not anthropomorphic at all, whereas those who follow the modern salafi creed and claim to be athari is unfortunately slightly anthropomorphic.
@@hxyzazolchak from my experience they ("Salafis" in particular) generally hold an anthropomorphic stance, as they take mentions of the "face" or "hands" or such of God to be literal. So they say God has a face and hands and legs but unlike those of humans. Mainstream Sunnis (Ash'ari and Maturidi) have usually held these as descriptive metaphors.
I think the Ashaari creed has been shaped by politics in a way to serve as an official state relgion. There are many similarities between it and the Christian orthodoxy, from which the Ashaarism has borrowed the "Divine right" among many other political feature. That was not possible without some theological resemblance too. We know that al-Kalam (Ashaari theology system) is mainly inspired by the Christology which is based on Aristotle syllogism. In a time when Aristotle was veneered either by the Church or by the Muslim erudits as well,Ibn Taymiyyah compiled one of the earliest critique studies to Aristotle to prove Aristole was wrong, just to serve his endeavor to refute Ashaarism, which opened the path for later ones such as Francis Bacon and René Descartes against the Catholic Church.
@@HamzaBaqoushi Plato was way more influential between sunni erudits that Aristotle in the middle ages.
Ibn taymiyah was a teacher who defeated the mongols
16:57
It is not to ibn Taymiyyah that all forms of innovations are wrong rather it is sahih hadith in Sunan an Nasāi' which is as:
It was narrated that Jabir bin 'Abdullah(رضى الله عنه) said:
"In his Khutbah the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to praise Allah as He deserves to be praised, then he would say: 'Whomsoever Allah (سبحان وتعالى) guides, none can lead him astray, and whomsoever Allah sends astray, none can guide. The truest of word is the Book of Allah and best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those that are newly invented; every newly-invented thing is an *Innovation* and *every innovation* is going *astray* , and every going *astray is in the Fire* .'....."
Sunan an-Nasa'i, 1578
In-Book Reference: Book 19, Hadith 23
Well said
lmao innovaters coping in the comments , Ibn Taymiyya رحمه الله is a thorn in your throats
🤣🤣🤣 Ibn kalbiyeh
@@ardeshirshahin Ya rafidi shia , just keep hitting yourself while being silent
The reason why Charlie hebdo and similar incidents happens all around the world. Because people like you still exist.
@@ricksanchez4045 so you are a jew worshiper, you and other takfiris never fired a shot against your beloved Zionists in Israel, you are disgusting hypocrites. No wonder Ibn kalbiyeh has followers like you. Wait until petro dollars run out, then you see all Wahabis and Salafists will melt and disappear.
@@ricksanchez4045 Charlie Hebdo deserved it
I have read Ibn Taymiyya’s biography by Jon Hoover, it was really good!
Actually it wasn't?! Jon Hoover is not fair enough or even about his historical judgment on Ibn Taymiyya's
Jon Hoover should consider the possibility of vengeance + conservatives dialema but he was so fast to make direct comments from Ibn Taymiyya's advisers.
I hope you will enjoy seeing my comment and read more about this problems in near future .
Love you and respect.
@Dinesh Churoria 😂😂😂
@Dinesh Churoria ok dinesh. go worship a cow or the male insemination tool.
@@ahmedelmogi5113 عندك كتاب يتكلم عن ابن تيمية افضل من هوفر
اذا عندك امثلة اعطنا جزاك الله خير
Jon Hoover is a liar
The root of radicalism and evil. The fact that extremism is used to justify inhuman behavior stating that it is needed so we can get closer to god is just ridiculous.
You should make a video about the history of Wahhabism and the horrors it has unleashed upon the world. The numbers of tombs of saints and family members of the prophet that they destroyed. They had the audacity to try to destroy the tomb of Muhammad himself!
ruclips.net/video/wkwBTF-71-k/видео.html
The horrors is Islamic terrorism is well know to the world lol
ibn Abdul Wahab actually defended himself and followed the hadith of lowering graves which Ali narrated, so he wasnt bad, its just the grave worshipers who don't know Islam teaches to pray to Allah alone were upset. Go to Nasir al Hanbali's page!
Islam is to worship ALLAH not tombs, this bidʻah was introduced many centuries after the death of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), and was not known at the beginning of Islam
Wahhabi sack of Karbala for example
Aisha (A salaf) killed 20000 of Ali's ( a salaf) followers. Khalid Ibn Valid ( a salaf and Abubakr's general) killed a sahabah and sexed his wife for refusing paying Alm (zakat) to Abu Bakr and Umar criticized this Abu Bakr said I want the same yellow camels that prophet was receiving ( tarikh yaqubo a major Sunni book page 10). . Salaf killed Uthman another salaf, Salaf killed Umar (another salaf) salaf killed Ali (another salaf). The history of Muslims is full of salaf killing salaf. Wake up Mr. Ibn Taymeyyah. It is ok whatever he wants to believe but it is not OK killing other believers.
Unfortunately, this is biased presentation of Ibn Taymiyyah, his Ideas on logic and his critique of the aristotilian view on language are original and new to the world.
This is the doctrine of a scared insecure, intellectually and spiritually stunted man-child. Ibn taymiyyah, in his attempt to go back to a "pure" islam, actually did the opposite and went back to jahiliyyah
May i ask how he caused to go back to jahiliyyah?
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@@itsve8632Just compare muslim countries with non muslim countries. Muslim countries are primitive, culturally poor, many of them are chronically destabilized, there's no future for them. By putting a target on innovation islam shut down all doors to progress or reformation, it's doomed to live in a past that doesn't exist anymore. If that ain't ignorance than i don't know what is.
well it seems that all the killings in this area is based on his thoughts, the Quran itself and the prophet are a lot kinder when it comes to dealing with diversity. I suggest you make a special video about the result of his thoughts in society
Great video. We absolutely love a video on Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya
I can sense bias in the way that you described ibn taymiyah but dont go down the road of controversial practices that sufis do. You speak on them very kindly and you seem to be critical of ibn taymiyah.
watch his other videos, he is big on islamic spirituality, definitely a sufi
@@fartman3065 that's the vibe I get from him
Because the speaker is not a native Arabic speaker and don't have a deep understanding of islam he's resources are totally from a tow opposite groups
Actually i can argue three things that were said in this amazing video: 1. His "harsh" fatwa against alawits and duruz, it was not an unique fatwa of his own, and this fatwa had a political side in the context of thier negative role in the ongoing conficts that time, and this fatwa got very influent and popular because it came from such an important influent scholar/fighter and made him more popular. 2. His fatwa against mongols, again there was a historical and political context, when mongols invading the heart of the islamic empire and some of muslims were having second thoughts defending themselves against the invaders because some of them declared themselves muslims, so ibn teymiyye said that even if some of them believe in some islamic ideas and believes, they still should be fought back. 3. The views againt "taklid" that were mentioned in the video seems like the anti-taklid school in the 20th century, not ibn teymiyye's view himself, he always had been a hanbali scholar, but felt himself free to go beyond his hanbali school when he found it right, and had the courage to do it alot of times but in the frame of hanbali school, the nowadays school of salafis (or most of them) do not look to this that way, and some of them went too extreme in baning "taklid" completely
And i want to add something i believe in, ibn teymiyye's school influents a lot of movements nowadays (wahabis, salafis, isis, etc) but you can rarely find a scholar nowadays that follows ibn teymiyye's school from a to z, most of them are just following his theologic thoughts (regarding god's attributes). for example, he was totally against saint graves visiting, but when wahhabi movement started its war against sufi movements in hijaz area, ibn teymiyye's words was just used to justify the war, even if ibn teymiyye himself didnt mentioned a word about starting a war againt this graves! The same happend with al-qaida and takfir movements in general, i realy admire ibn teymiyye's work and message in his era, i believe he was a genius, and i realy get sad when i see movements using his name and writings to justify or support thier own thoughts and actions
Great points!
He should have mentioned the historical context for these fatwas instead of just making him out as some crazy secterian warmongeror. The alawis he takfired were people that used to attack the settlements of sunni Muslims, hence the harshness and permisibility to kill them.
@@muhammedmemduhoglu7854 isis came from al queda who the Saudis booted but cia 79 iran the original jet bombers took them in following shi'a st. fayruz who took Umar then his own life. view : *Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Rips Apart The Raafidhi MaJEWsi Iranian Foreign Minister
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@@muhammedmemduhoglu7854 truth is ibn Abd. Wahab defended as the Sahabas didn't go to graves for prayer and hadiths said lower graves as high graves lead to polytheism and creation worship which is wrong.
Look at Nasir al Hanbali community pages on Saudi vs. Ottomon graves with hadith citations!
Wahdat al Wujud is from the Prophet AS directly from the Muwatta when he (SAWS) said "Do not curse time, for Allah is Time" (ktab al kalam, 3rd Hadith first page) Imam an Nawawi said its a metaphor to explain that Allah swt's Will is behind the unravelling of Time. Since Allah Will is behind everything, the statement "Allah is everything" holds the same weight as the Prophet AS statement that "Allah is time". So Wahdat al Wujud is from the Sunnah directly. What do you make of this argument? Maybe the peer pressure would be too much if you ended up agreeing lol but I still want to hear your thoughts about it
Ibn Taymiyyah wasn't an anthropomorphist in a simplistic way, no. But the things he said do necessarily entail corporealism. His ardent defenders seek recourse to the 'nuance' and 'complexity' of his thought, but it was just a smokescreen of sophistry.
If the Wahhabi destroyed the graves of the family members of the Prophet, why didn’t they destroy the grave of the Prophet himself as well as the first four caliphs?
The grave of Muhammad SAWs family were shrines where people did istigatha and kufr, whereas the Prophets Grave along with the khulafa rashideen was in the house of Aisha, and was included in the mosque
@@You.are.correct.however They actually tried in the early days of their rule. Saudis have no respect for the shahaba or the Ahl al-Bayt. They only respect Israel and the United States.
May ALLAH shower His Mercy upon Sheikh Al-Islam IBN TAYMIYYAH
Ibn Taymiyyah, kind of a madman. I as a Muslim don't like him, his beliefs wouldn't survive in todays time if he were to ban everything. Would love to see him travel with horse and carriage. Not only that he belongs to the Hanbali school which is the least in adherence and the most strictest. No one takes Hanbalis seriously anyways, pure comedy, whole Wahabi movement is built on weak and fabricated hadiths. The only thing I can agree with him on and give respect is to ban grave worshipping.
Hey,
i am a sociology student from germany who is mostly interested in islamic studies. I really love ur videos and they help me quiet a lot in my learning process.
Question: Do u have any recommendation for books that contain an insight into a the most important islamic thinkers (ibn rushd, ibn sina, ibn kahldun, taymiya etc)?
peace and greets from Germany
I have read Ibn Taymiyya’s biography by Jon Hoover, which I highly recommend. It is an exploration mainly of one figure but he has become highly influential today in modern Salafism, even though he was a proto-Salafi, if that is even an appropriate term to describe him.
I have read Rene Guenon’s biography by Paul Chacornac, thinking it would explain his involvement with the Shadhili Tariqa which was influential amongst the Traditionalist intellectuals at the time, but it didn’t really so I don’t recommend that book.
I have read Al Ghazali Niche of Lights, its an esoteric commentary on Q24:35 of the Quran. Not sure how useful this would be for your studies and research.
I’m also reading a biography of Ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab by Michae Crawford, but haven’t finished it so I can’t make any recommendations as of yet.
I have a few other books which I have yet to read like Transcendent God, Rational World: A Maturidi Theology by Ramon Harvey but I have yet to read it.
U will need first to watch this ruclips.net/video/P03JqfAlAQc/видео.html its in the blogging theology Channel of Paul which I recommand u to get a good look at it as a begining
Also
ruclips.net/video/Jj95KeyBsiY/видео.html
But of course u have first to read the Quran
@@mbarnabeus why would i need to read the qur'an when i want to learn for example about ibn rushd ?
@@MrMikkyn thx, i thought aboutgetting this but i also was looking for some kind of a collection where i have an overview about several islamic thinkers
With all due respect How do u want to have good islamic studies without reading the Quran? Its the primary n most important source of any real islamic study..besides.. salivation n understanding Why WE r here on earth is quite important for any human being.. thats Why I recommanded u reading first the Quran..u cant judge any thing or any writer about Islam before exploring The Quran. Thank u any way
Read Quran then read any book by Ibn taymiyyah. He has a child like understanding of Quran. Less than that because even a child can understand metaphor.
A troll in yt insulting a major genius as described even by many of his scholarly enemies lol look at your profile picture then tell us more about children 🤣
Did you…….. did you really just say “he has a child like understanding of Quran”? Are you Muslim?
@@MohamedShou soulless would be more fitting
Very well done, highly objective and precise.
not visiting the graves brother WORSHIPING the graves
Ibn Taymiyya went against Sunni Islam and the Salaf in every way...
هذا الكلام إما جهل أو كذب.
Informative, objective and accurate illustration as usual. Thank you brother.
A wise man who knows the religion of Islam's fudmentals and the current reformers Like Inn Tymiyya
Ibn tayyimah never reformed, he followed religion like salaf and prophet. Thats what his intentions were
You can’t make takfir and claim one is kufar (non believer). Only Allah can judge. Salafi wahabi is not the majority. Thank Allah for that.
Iben taimiya would argue otherwise, he single handedly ruined Islam to a degree he had some good ideas but the bad outweighs the good
There are people in the comments that think of this man's ideas actually great
It is but some people don't understand it and he has wring fatwas becausw he isn't a prophet or a god
Greatest he is our Sheikh Ul Islam
May Allah gather me with him at judgment day
May Allah mercy on Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyya.
Yeah grave licker talk about yourself.
you forgot to mention that he claimed that chemistry is magic and that the study of astronomy is prohibited in Islam
Where he calimed ??
Seems like you got so many things misunderstood.
long story short No he doesnt say that.
Thank you for bringing this information to us Philip it's clear that Ibn Taymiyya's ideology is still very influential and I think us understanding this will go one step towards a greater understanding of the issues it has led to and the fact that Islam, like all religions is no monolithic edifice, it contains just as much diversity of thought as all of humanity itself..
Ibn Tamiya is a cursed pig
@@husshuss2652 maybe you give him your good deeds and take his sins for your lies as hadith bankrupt says!
I think the word Monolithic in itself is deeply problematic and so subjective in this context that is becomes moot. Honestly, Islam is pretty monolithic when contrasted against other faiths. WHat I think is happening here is people outside of Islam watch this channel without a real-world sense of how nuanced Islam is beyond an academic discussion. By discussing these details it may seem more "non-monolithic " than it actually is. Monolithic is not always a negative. But depends on what we are discussing and from whose perspective. Still if you come to South Africa or Kenya or Ethiopia, a mosque is a mosque and the religion is pretty clear cut. Ramadan is Ramadan where ever you go.
@@husshuss2652 i‘m a Sufi. But i still love and respect THE GREAT ibn Taymiyyah, he was a great Scholar you have to respect
@@husshuss2652 Allah will punish you
23:35 No its not True Ascharis/Maturidis use Bi la kayf also but the understanding is different Ibn Taymiyyah thinks bi la kayf means we dont ask how but Sunni understand Bi La Kayf without an Modality! That is very important if you wanna do videos about Islamic Theology you should consider to speak with an Sheikh and not read western Litrature about it.
thank you so much for the correction brother
He did not start a new sect, please stop with these misleading titles
"how could nomads from the steppe destroy the greatest city in the world" Technically the Mongol army itself did not sack the city. When the Kipchaks interrogated Hulagu, he claimed it was the Armenians who joined and outnumbered them, close to about 50,000 Christian Armenian cavalry, that inevitably sacked and burned down Baghdad.
😂 Where's the evidence?
Great work! I think I can add one point:
Ibn Taymiyya's harsh fatwas on shia in general were motivated by politics, The mongol illkhanate accepted islam and favoured Shia ideology over sunni ideology, that meant Muslims in levant had to fight invading MUSLIM mongols. That made the notion to fight mongols back less popular,as they already had an overwhelming power in addition to their cruelty, and fact that mongols accepted islam made it even more complicated.
In fact Ibn taymiyya's most popular book( Minjah Al sunna Al nabawiyya) is a response to a book called ( Minhaj Al Karama fi Ithbat Al Imamah) written by Ibn Mutahhar Al Hilli who was the head of Shia scholars during his lifetime(first to be given the title Ayatollah), Ibn Al Mutahhar himself was a student of Nasir Aldin Al Tusi, A prominent Shia scholar, who was an advisor to the infamous Hulagu Khan.
It's accepted among Sunnis and Shia today that Ibn Al Mutahhar was the reason Mongol illkhanate officials favoured Shia doctrine over its Sunni counterpart.
So in my own personal opinion: Ibn Taymiyya viewed Shia as an enemy that was trying to undermine the Muslim world. He never viewed them as Muslims with different views.
Same goes to other Shia minorities: alawites and duruz: he accused (in his fatwa) these minorities of siding and aiding mongols and crusaders.
In short: Ibn Taymiyya and his critique of Shia and their beliefs were the result of Muslim-Mongol conflict
His critiques of shias is because of their beliefs which are totally against Quran
Another made up story by a shia 😂😂 just like all other stories of shias
@@zeeshanbhat6862This is what people don't want to accept and they bring all sorts of other reasons
The fact that this man has so much followers today makes me scared