I feel like sensors have gotten so good, that what separates great mice from below average mice is really the build quality. If companies have one thing they should try to nail, it is that.
I have no idea why you calling this average.. this mouse is amazing! I have no issue with mine . This mouse is just to good! I don’t see no point at all to buy the razer v3 . This mouse has made my aim effortless. You won’t be disappointed for the people that are thinking of buying this mouse.
Changed my X1U's skates to obsidian dot and somehow I changed back to stock skate and use it with bare table surface XD. It got me to Ruby in aim lab. Nice review as usual
I Don't Know But I Absolutely Love This Mouse The Best Mouse I Ever Own , After Moving From Viper Mini, This Is The Best Mouse Even Better Then Viper Mini Signature Edition, mine Does Not Have Any Creaking Nosies And It Feel Like Paper and Control I Will Highly Recommend This Mouse For Any One With Small Hands Like Me And Have Relex Claw ,Love It .......
I currently use a viper mini and I’m thinking about buying this mouse aswell. Do you know if there is a difference between the pro max and the ultimate?
@@GBH-z5d get the f1 pro or pro max version. easily end game tier if u liked viper mini like me. the f1 pro has the best build quality than ultimate/f1 pro max
I personally have the F1 Pro instead of the Ultimate and based on my copy, I don't agree with the negatives you pointed out for yours. Perhaps the Ultimate edition was rushed, which contributes to the flaws out of the box but for me, the Pro version is an easy recommend for anyone that is looking to get a budget mouse that is similar in quality and specifications as the likes of Pulsar, Lamzu, etc. The coating on the F1 Pro black is great though. I like it much more than the coating on all of my Pulsar mice (I have 3 different Pulsar mice). Very similar to Lamzu's coating on the Atlantis mini in black, but a tad bit less chalky/powdery feeling.
Hey man, great video. I love the shape of mine as well, but im also worried about long term use. Can you recommend any similar mice that are a little more durable?
Heya! Hmmm The shape of this is much closer to that of the Lamzu Maya. Not a 1:1 but very close! The Maya is nice mouse and I feel is a pretty nice buy and looks really good too! They announced the release of 2 8K versions and a Maya X which is a larger in size. I'll leave a link to their twitter page for you to check out :) x.com/Lamzugear
My experience as a tryhard valorant player: Pros: performance, shape, Weight, cost Cons: Coating, Battery, Feet P/S: the cable of that box is L, u should buy another cable
im not wasabi and i dont have the f1 ultimate yet, but i would recommend the r1 pro because the build quality is perfect. the f1 ultimate is getting a lot of bad review and ppl saying that the qc is bad, so i would recommend the r1 pro
@@im.deh11 True, can't go wrong with the R1 Pro. Love mine. Specs are good enough, perfect QC, good clicks and a great shape for my playstyle; all while being super light. And when on sale its almost half the price of the F1 Ultimate. While I do like there's new competition in this price range I do think that Chinese companies can do better. We've seen what Ninjutso can do with the Sora V2 and I was hoping we'd see that from this release. Unfortunately it seems like these releases are a mixed bag of QC issues and not-so-great click implementation.
@@hinchlikescake7592 it'll get better after a few batches for sure, because i have the first batch of vxe r1 pro max, and there were an ungodly amount of qc issues. the right click, side buttons and scroll wheels were loose, the shell was creaking to the point where i have to fix it myself bcz its too burdensome. and i read the newer batch is flawless, so that might imply with the f1 series too. so if op is patience enough for a couple months, they should get the f1 instead, if not then the r1 are good.
@@lqhatred Can't comment on the ATK's since I don't own it but several reviewers have tested the F1 Ultimate; some with horrible shell issues. Among other issues like button tolerances. Not worth beta testing those right now. If people need a good budget mouse now, the only good options are the R1 Pro, perhaps the VGN ones or Incott mice. Maybe the ATK's Pro (non Ultimate) will fare better since I don't see/hear many issues with those.
Wow you're in luck! I've been testing the G-Wolves HTR 8K and its a brilliant fingertip mouse that you might be interested in! Though it doesn't allow for any other grip style haha. For traditional shapes it would depend on your hand size but most would prefer small or mini sized mice. The BeastX Mini is pretty great for fingertip and if it's within your budget, the Finalmouse ULX Cheetah Size is great for the fingertip grip style as well :)
@@i_Vex169 that would very well depend on your hand width! It feels fine for me and its light weight sure makes it easy to control with a relaxed fingertip :)
@@i_Vex169 Should be fine! Fingertip mice are a lot more forgiving with hand sizes because of its… size 😅 I haven’t had word from them about it yet so I would guess not😄
im not wasabi and i dont have the f1 ultimate yet, but i would recommend the r1 pro because the build quality is perfect. the f1 ultimate is getting a lot of bad review and ppl saying that the qc is bad, so i would recommend the r1 pro
everyone saying the r1 is the same as pulsar x2. but I can tell you after using both, it's a night and day difference in build quality. coating and material and everything. Definitely try pulsar if you like the r1 shape.
Dont know why but x1 and f1 are both more expensive than they should be for me on aliexpress 70+$. Im really only comfortably dropping max 55 on these chinese products.
I mean, almost all of these budget Chinese mice are all about the same quality. They all feel pretty cheap, probably because they come out of the same 1-2 factories in China. Atk, vgn, vxe, darmoshark, attack shark, kysona.... all the same. There are a few that stand out though, lamzu, dareu, pulsar (even though they have qc issues too). This mouse is no different than the 100+ others on the market that are essentially the same thing
Putting ATK VXE VGN in the same sentence with kysona is criminal lmao, it's a world of a difference. My VXE R1 pro has better build quality then my lamzu VGN dragonfly as well feels premium to me
@user-ef3oi3wi9s 100+ is a bit ambitious, but there are plenty. Ninjutso sora v1/v2, pulsar x2v2, pulsar x2h, attack shark r2/r3, keychron m3, darmoshark m3, wlmouse beastx, keychron lemonkey g3, vgn dragonfly, vxe f1 pro moba... need I continue? I can go all day. All of these mice are great performers and will perform just fine. They all have at least 4k, if not 8k and at least 3395 sensors.
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I feel like sensors have gotten so good, that what separates great mice from below average mice is really the build quality. If companies have one thing they should try to nail, it is that.
Build quality and shape
Yeah it's basically all about trying shapes, and tuning in build quality and weight
Yeah shape, build quality, clicks/switches, coating
I have no idea why you calling this average.. this mouse is amazing! I have no issue with mine . This mouse is just to good! I don’t see no point at all to buy the razer v3 . This mouse has made my aim effortless. You won’t be disappointed for the people that are thinking of buying this mouse.
I ordered the F1 pro max because my Zaopin Z2 wasn't comfortable while FPS, maybe just becoz of my hand size.
f1 ultimate or pro which model doid you get
@@32r23rrrr pro max
@@32r23rrrr i have the ultimate and im loving it with my glass mouse pad.
@@SpiritualPlayboy69 for sure with the ultimate u feel how light this mouse is!
Honestly the mouse is a good banger and not just an average mouse. But you are right about their QC and CS and marketing as well. Nice review!
Changed my X1U's skates to obsidian dot and somehow I changed back to stock skate and use it with bare table surface XD. It got me to Ruby in aim lab. Nice review as usual
I think the F1 Ultimate is fire 🔥
Light weight, affordable price, good shape and best sensor.
Really enjoy my unit 😊
Do you happen to have any qc issues? because I just bought one from china
@@w4veladhow was ur copy?
@@mil-kw9zi well, the ultimate was out of stock so i just bought the pro max, but its coming tomorrow i think
@@mil-kw9zi just got my f1 pro max, it's amazing. the qc on this is great
@@w4veladshould have gotten it off if ali, they have tons of ultimates for sale in multiple shops
I Don't Know But I Absolutely Love This Mouse The Best Mouse I Ever Own , After Moving From Viper Mini, This Is The Best Mouse Even Better Then Viper Mini Signature Edition, mine Does Not Have Any Creaking Nosies And It Feel Like Paper and Control I Will Highly Recommend This Mouse For Any One With Small Hands Like Me And Have Relex Claw ,Love It .......
I currently use a viper mini and I’m thinking about buying this mouse aswell. Do you know if there is a difference between the pro max and the ultimate?
@@GBH-z5d get the f1 pro or pro max version. easily end game tier if u liked viper mini like me. the f1 pro has the best build quality than ultimate/f1 pro max
@@huzaifaknightgaming3384 than why is ultimate more expensive?
9:33 got me LMAO. 😂
I personally have the F1 Pro instead of the Ultimate and based on my copy, I don't agree with the negatives you pointed out for yours. Perhaps the Ultimate edition was rushed, which contributes to the flaws out of the box but for me, the Pro version is an easy recommend for anyone that is looking to get a budget mouse that is similar in quality and specifications as the likes of Pulsar, Lamzu, etc.
The coating on the F1 Pro black is great though. I like it much more than the coating on all of my Pulsar mice (I have 3 different Pulsar mice). Very similar to Lamzu's coating on the Atlantis mini in black, but a tad bit less chalky/powdery feeling.
this or ninjutso sora v1 (I already have the sora)
Hey man, great video. I love the shape of mine as well, but im also worried about long term use. Can you recommend any similar mice that are a little more durable?
I want to know too! And with better QC ?
Heya! Hmmm The shape of this is much closer to that of the Lamzu Maya. Not a 1:1 but very close! The Maya is nice mouse and I feel is a pretty nice buy and looks really good too! They announced the release of 2 8K versions and a Maya X which is a larger in size.
I'll leave a link to their twitter page for you to check out :)
x.com/Lamzugear
@wasabitech thank you, will keep that one in mind!
My experience as a tryhard valorant player: Pros: performance, shape, Weight, cost
Cons: Coating, Battery, Feet
P/S: the cable of that box is L, u should buy another cable
hey wasabi, which one would you prefer? vxe r1 pro or atk f1 ultimate?
im not wasabi and i dont have the f1 ultimate yet, but i would recommend the r1 pro because the build quality is perfect. the f1 ultimate is getting a lot of bad review and ppl saying that the qc is bad, so i would recommend the r1 pro
Well said!
@@im.deh11 True, can't go wrong with the R1 Pro. Love mine. Specs are good enough, perfect QC, good clicks and a great shape for my playstyle; all while being super light. And when on sale its almost half the price of the F1 Ultimate.
While I do like there's new competition in this price range I do think that Chinese companies can do better. We've seen what Ninjutso can do with the Sora V2 and I was hoping we'd see that from this release. Unfortunately it seems like these releases are a mixed bag of QC issues and not-so-great click implementation.
@@hinchlikescake7592 it'll get better after a few batches for sure, because i have the first batch of vxe r1 pro max, and there were an ungodly amount of qc issues. the right click, side buttons and scroll wheels were loose, the shell was creaking to the point where i have to fix it myself bcz its too burdensome. and i read the newer batch is flawless, so that might imply with the f1 series too. so if op is patience enough for a couple months, they should get the f1 instead, if not then the r1 are good.
@@lqhatred Can't comment on the ATK's since I don't own it but several reviewers have tested the F1 Ultimate; some with horrible shell issues. Among other issues like button tolerances. Not worth beta testing those right now. If people need a good budget mouse now, the only good options are the R1 Pro, perhaps the VGN ones or Incott mice.
Maybe the ATK's Pro (non Ultimate) will fare better since I don't see/hear many issues with those.
waay better than a finalmouse tho at that price point. then again why get finalmouse when you can buy a wlmouse
Could someome please recommend a gaming mouse that's better than this but is around the same price group?
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@@Bricktop1963 Hey thanks so much for noticing my comment man! I'll check this out!
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how do you know if battery is full? there is no led indicator?
You'll have to check it on the software :)
nice work as always wasabi, great video quality, what mouse do u recomend me for aggressive finger tip?
Wow you're in luck! I've been testing the G-Wolves HTR 8K and its a brilliant fingertip mouse that you might be interested in! Though it doesn't allow for any other grip style haha.
For traditional shapes it would depend on your hand size but most would prefer small or mini sized mice. The BeastX Mini is pretty great for fingertip and if it's within your budget, the Finalmouse ULX Cheetah Size is great for the fingertip grip style as well :)
@@wasabitechdoes the htr good for relaxed fingertip ?
@@i_Vex169 that would very well depend on your hand width! It feels fine for me and its light weight sure makes it easy to control with a relaxed fingertip :)
My hand size 17*9.5 cm will you get the ht-s2 i t looks good shape i waiting for reviews ?
@@i_Vex169 Should be fine! Fingertip mice are a lot more forgiving with hand sizes because of its… size 😅 I haven’t had word from them about it yet so I would guess not😄
this or vxe r1 pro?
im not wasabi and i dont have the f1 ultimate yet, but i would recommend the r1 pro because the build quality is perfect. the f1 ultimate is getting a lot of bad review and ppl saying that the qc is bad, so i would recommend the r1 pro
@@im.deh11 awesome, i actually already decided on the r1. It's on the way!
@@leosondek glad i could help, but just look out bcus some of the r1 pro qc is good but some has faulty clicks (grinding, squeaking, etc)
everyone saying the r1 is the same as pulsar x2. but I can tell you after using both, it's a night and day difference in build quality. coating and material and everything. Definitely try pulsar if you like the r1 shape.
Great review as always🤍
Thank you! Cheers! ^^
I have 18.5×10.5cm hand and I can/did palm this mice.
do you think r1 pro or f1 pro more worth?
No
I would wait for their next release or see what else will be released this year :) There are quite a few new mice that are planned for this year
Dont know why but x1 and f1 are both more expensive than they should be for me on aliexpress 70+$. Im really only comfortably dropping max 55 on these chinese products.
A shame, unfortunately not equal to the sum of its impressive parts
Yes that is a shame!
fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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I mean, almost all of these budget Chinese mice are all about the same quality. They all feel pretty cheap, probably because they come out of the same 1-2 factories in China. Atk, vgn, vxe, darmoshark, attack shark, kysona.... all the same. There are a few that stand out though, lamzu, dareu, pulsar (even though they have qc issues too).
This mouse is no different than the 100+ others on the market that are essentially the same thing
Putting ATK VXE VGN in the same sentence with kysona is criminal lmao, it's a world of a difference. My VXE R1 pro has better build quality then my lamzu VGN dragonfly as well feels premium to me
@@rengoat7964 they are all the same Chinese manufacturers using the same factories bro. Don't be ignorant
Name at least 10 of the same options... 100+ 😂😂😂
@user-ef3oi3wi9s 100+ is a bit ambitious, but there are plenty. Ninjutso sora v1/v2, pulsar x2v2, pulsar x2h, attack shark r2/r3, keychron m3, darmoshark m3, wlmouse beastx, keychron lemonkey g3, vgn dragonfly, vxe f1 pro moba... need I continue? I can go all day.
All of these mice are great performers and will perform just fine. They all have at least 4k, if not 8k and at least 3395 sensors.
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