I see this in little league. The great teams have the players talking more than the coaches. The sucky teams are the coaches yelling at the athletes and the athletes are not talking cs they’re just looking at their coaches for approval
This fits all to my running coach. That coach would have it out for me, humiliate me in front of the whole group, make me question my own perception of things, negate everything I said, portray me as a failure, would not check in unless I reached out first, would have no patience, would give no advice about recovery, fueling and cross training unless you asked very specifiy (how a new runner’s supposed to know what to ask in the first place is beyond me), and would ultimately leave me discouraged and so sad. Especially after one tempo session, the others in the group were so shocked that they would come and comfort me afterwards. I remember one very teary train ride back home and contemplating to stop running. I’m glad I didn’t. Paid a lot of money for this lesson though.
Thanks for your comment. Makes me sad to read stuff like this. I call it "old coaching" because for too long we've placed too much emphasis on physical training and not enough on the person we're coaching. Our job as coaches is to lift people, to show them how amazing they can be and to believe in them. Sorry you've had some bad experiences - but don't give up on what you love doing.
Your description is heartbreaking, and is a situation that my 12 yr old son is in with his basketball coach. Almost exactly as you described, he is the outcast and picked on; not one of the coaches obvious favorites in any way. My wife wants to keep him in and prove to the coach his worth, but I’m not sure what the right thing is to do.
@@jeffreyt76 thank you so much for your comment and your sharing this! Maybe this can help but quitting with that coach and switching running groups was the best decision I could have ever made. It breathed new life into my running and I got to know many more cool people. I fell in love with the sport all over again. It makes me angry for your son to have such a menace as a coach. “Proving your worth” as an athlete in a pay-for-service relationship where the coach is supposed to provide the athlete a service and not the other way around is utter nonsense. All it does is put more pressure on your kid because now he not only has to worry about the sport but he has the coach breathing down his neck too. In such an environment, especially kids will connect all those negative emotions not only to specific people but to the sport as well. They will learn to hate the sport, they’ll eventually stagnate or even drop out and that would be a shame. Some things are not meant to be and, with the utmost respect, I’d recommend switching teams. This is not about the pride of a parent who wants to prove their child’s worth to someone, even if I can understand the feelings, this is about your son’s wellbeing. Your son will probably be a bit sad or even reluctant at first, but in a more caring, supportive and loving environment he eventually will thrive and unlock new potential and opportunities.
@@Reckoning2943 Thank you for this reply. Your personal experience and rational evaluation of this problem is eye opening. I hope my wife and I can make the right decision.
@@jeffreyt76 I have to thank you for sharing and listening! :) One additional thing: switching running groups also improved my threshold pace by a whole minute almost overnight. Right now I’m crushing tempo sessions that seemed impossible with my former coach. That coach told me I’ll need YEARS to run a sub 3:30 marathon, now I’m capable of doing that and it’s only been 4 months. To drop something that held you down will literally make you fly, I am positive it will be that way for your son too :)
Motivating n insulting is big difference problem solve . Keep doing the same thing expecting a new result is insanity . The main goal is to win the ball game even if we lose every game
The greatest coach I had was in high school swimming, now 45 years ago. Quite young, was right out of college himself. We already had a decent program when he arrived, and he saw the potential for greatness. Training twice a day, sometimes even in the morning of days we had an afternoon meet, the most intense physical training I have ever had. Christmas break training was horrific. Yet he never raised his voice except in enthusiasm, and somehow, you WANTED to do it. We succeeded wildly, won the Conference championship and were the unofficial State Champions (we were the highest ranked AA school in the state, swimming was so small a sport that it wasn't divided into such divisions) He was only at my school one season, the following year he took a job at one of my state's top high schools for swimming, and only a few years later was coaching at a major university. Next to the Captain of my ship when I was in the Navy, this guy was the greatest leader I have ever known.
I am a national level table tennis player(women's category) but the thing is I'm not even 15 yet... I used to love the sport until the last year when I finally got my first gold in nationals. From then on my life has been hell. My coach puts so much pressure on me. Everything I do is wrong. Humiliates me in front of other student's parents, talks shit about my family all the time. Recently after my final exams, my family forced me to go to a family function because of how many I've missed and due to that I missed 3 days of coaching and my coach made me feel like shit because of that
Thanbkjs for your comment. The only advice I've got is to do what you love - for the reasons you love it. Stay closely connected to the reasons why you play table tennis - and remember we "play" sport - it's something to be enjoyed. No matter what anyone else says or thinks - your sports experience is just that - yours. Keep focused on doing it in a way that makes you happy and everyone else can do and say whatever they like. Make it all about your enjoyment of the sport you love.
Sad but possibly true. Coaches can change the world - I believe in the power of great coaches and good coaching to make a positive impact on the lives of everyone they coach.
Hahahah I left my socer team after just 2 trainings bc he just kept insulting me. Later I found out that nobody in club is more than 2 months in the club. Everyone just leavs this socer team bc coach just insults his students
My coach fits in all of these
Same
Same, late, but same.. I am thinking about quitting
I see this in little league. The great teams have the players talking more than the coaches. The sucky teams are the coaches yelling at the athletes and the athletes are not talking cs they’re just looking at their coaches for approval
I beg too differ
this is literally the coach i was stuck with for two seasons... but now i switched coaches
This fits all to my running coach. That coach would have it out for me, humiliate me in front of the whole group, make me question my own perception of things, negate everything I said, portray me as a failure, would not check in unless I reached out first, would have no patience, would give no advice about recovery, fueling and cross training unless you asked very specifiy (how a new runner’s supposed to know what to ask in the first place is beyond me), and would ultimately leave me discouraged and so sad. Especially after one tempo session, the others in the group were so shocked that they would come and comfort me afterwards. I remember one very teary train ride back home and contemplating to stop running. I’m glad I didn’t.
Paid a lot of money for this lesson though.
Thanks for your comment. Makes me sad to read stuff like this. I call it "old coaching" because for too long we've placed too much emphasis on physical training and not enough on the person we're coaching. Our job as coaches is to lift people, to show them how amazing they can be and to believe in them. Sorry you've had some bad experiences - but don't give up on what you love doing.
Your description is heartbreaking, and is a situation that my 12 yr old son is in with his basketball coach. Almost exactly as you described, he is the outcast and picked on; not one of the coaches obvious favorites in any way. My wife wants to keep him in and prove to the coach his worth, but I’m not sure what the right thing is to do.
@@jeffreyt76 thank you so much for your comment and your sharing this!
Maybe this can help but quitting with that coach and switching running groups was the best decision I could have ever made. It breathed new life into my running and I got to know many more cool people. I fell in love with the sport all over again.
It makes me angry for your son to have such a menace as a coach.
“Proving your worth” as an athlete in a pay-for-service relationship where the coach is supposed to provide the athlete a service and not the other way around is utter nonsense. All it does is put more pressure on your kid because now he not only has to worry about the sport but he has the coach breathing down his neck too. In such an environment, especially kids will connect all those negative emotions not only to specific people but to the sport as well. They will learn to hate the sport, they’ll eventually stagnate or even drop out and that would be a shame.
Some things are not meant to be and, with the utmost respect, I’d recommend switching teams. This is not about the pride of a parent who wants to prove their child’s worth to someone, even if I can understand the feelings, this is about your son’s wellbeing.
Your son will probably be a bit sad or even reluctant at first, but in a more caring, supportive and loving environment he eventually will thrive and unlock new potential and opportunities.
@@Reckoning2943 Thank you for this reply. Your personal experience and rational evaluation of this problem is eye opening. I hope my wife and I can make the right decision.
@@jeffreyt76 I have to thank you for sharing and listening! :)
One additional thing: switching running groups also improved my threshold pace by a whole minute almost overnight.
Right now I’m crushing tempo sessions that seemed impossible with my former coach. That coach told me I’ll need YEARS to run a sub 3:30 marathon, now I’m capable of doing that and it’s only been 4 months.
To drop something that held you down will literally make you fly, I am positive it will be that way for your son too :)
Motivating n insulting is big difference problem solve . Keep doing the same thing expecting a new result is insanity . The main goal is to win the ball game even if we lose every game
The greatest coach I had was in high school swimming, now 45 years ago. Quite young, was right out of college himself. We already had a decent program when he arrived, and he saw the potential for greatness. Training twice a day, sometimes even in the morning of days we had an afternoon meet, the most intense physical training I have ever had. Christmas break training was horrific. Yet he never raised his voice except in enthusiasm, and somehow, you WANTED to do it. We succeeded wildly, won the Conference championship and were the unofficial State Champions (we were the highest ranked AA school in the state, swimming was so small a sport that it wasn't divided into such divisions) He was only at my school one season, the following year he took a job at one of my state's top high schools for swimming, and only a few years later was coaching at a major university. Next to the Captain of my ship when I was in the Navy, this guy was the greatest leader I have ever known.
I am a national level table tennis player(women's category) but the thing is I'm not even 15 yet... I used to love the sport until the last year when I finally got my first gold in nationals. From then on my life has been hell. My coach puts so much pressure on me. Everything I do is wrong. Humiliates me in front of other student's parents, talks shit about my family all the time. Recently after my final exams, my family forced me to go to a family function because of how many I've missed and due to that I missed 3 days of coaching and my coach made me feel like shit because of that
Thanbkjs for your comment. The only advice I've got is to do what you love - for the reasons you love it. Stay closely connected to the reasons why you play table tennis - and remember we "play" sport - it's something to be enjoyed. No matter what anyone else says or thinks - your sports experience is just that - yours. Keep focused on doing it in a way that makes you happy and everyone else can do and say whatever they like. Make it all about your enjoyment of the sport you love.
@@wgcoaching thankyou so much... My experience is getting better already😃
Terrible teenage coaches at the Y where I swim - yell, yell, yell - I CANNOT stand swimming when they are there!
Thanks for the reality check.
80% of basketball coaches are this
Sad but possibly true. Coaches can change the world - I believe in the power of great coaches and good coaching to make a positive impact on the lives of everyone they coach.
Hahahah I left my socer team after just 2 trainings bc he just kept insulting me. Later I found out that nobody in club is more than 2 months in the club. Everyone just leavs this socer team bc coach just insults his students
It’s the same thing with me but in basketball
Yeah sounds like my dad making loose love for the sport
I feel scared to talk to my coach is that normal?
"Players are never wrong"
Your wrong bud! I had a tough coach . He did tell at me when I did wrong. Made me better
These terrible coaches you kids are talking about are probably payed peanuts if they are payed at all… why would they invest their time into you?
Exactly, so why do it if you have no genuine love for it .
Man Stop it. Half of thes Athletes are Selfish. Get over to America and Watch these kids
Coach Thorgeson Geneva Vikings