Am I tripping, because they acting like they didn't know the man's history and how the industry get down. I understand that they pulled her back when that happened but they never should have put her in the situation.
He isn’t lying the producers were on Surviving R.Kelly saying the same thing and played the recording. Joy didn’t want to mess with Rob at first. She is very impressionable honestly she seems a little off and very sheltered before she even met R.Kelly. I think everyone knows a person like that.
@@gjrocknthedreamteam3065this belief that a young adult is more than capable of defending themselves against MORE THAN MIDDLE AGE men, women, and a whole industry, is ludicrous. Women and men twice her age don’t know how to navigate thru this type of wickedness.
The Savages appear to be completely different from the Clarys. I believe them and think they are respectable people. Joycelyn was their college-aged daughter that fell under the influence of R Kelly. Legitimate artists were still working with Kelly when his people approached the family. It's like having a loved one in a cult. They will terminate all communication with their families and become totally subservient to the leader. I understand the mother's rage and applaud Tim's calmness.
I feel really bad for this family. It's likes she's passed away but they still waiting for her to walk through the door- heartbreaking. Sad that people are blaming them 😕Read the body language. He speaks truth with no stuttering or breaking in his voice - he's being honest.
I feel bad for the family in being that they cant accept responsibility for their own actions. They are not even close to be innocent and yes they probably want their daughter to talk to them but clearly they went about it the wrong way and are continuing to do so. This is a grown woman at this point and they are still going online and telling all her business as if that is healthy. They have been doing this for years and nothing as changed. Its a clear definition of insanity.
@@forever39 you can be heartbroken but that doesn't excuse their actions that played a role in their own heart break. The insanity part is to keep doing the same things over and over again that they do not want to accept responsibility for.
These people have not walked a mile or even a step in these peoples shoes. You can easily say what you would or wouldn't have done. I'm sure they did their best and mistakes were made but I won't judge
I agree 100%! I’m a little shocked by how many ppl sit here with all the answers and judgment but if they haven’t gone through this you just don’t know what you would do.
Exactly... hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm sure they carry more guilt than they deserve to carry and don't need these haters adding more to that load.
Them texts were REAL. I am disgusted because all of this Me Too ish is starting to feel like an agenda. Just finished reading the court file. I am FLOORED.
Good interview, Storm!! Regarding this situation ONLY, their daughter has opted not to deal with her parents anymore. It’s sad - but a reality they must accept. R Kelly’s been in jail for 3 YEARS and if she wanted to reconnect with her parents she would’ve. He’s regurgitating OLD info as if she was physically with him now. It’s difficult for them to accept but it’s HER choice. Periodt! HE GONE!! SHE GONE!! Pray and learn to love her from afar and if raised right, like the prodigal son, she’ll return. Again, kudos to you on this one!!
Save them prayers; Kellz been locked up for years and Joy still haven't reached out.. I don't blame her.. Tim Savage get on every platform that'll give him a spot and spew out Joy's personal business.. What kind of Dad does that? An Attention Seeking Narcissistic Psychopath .. 🤕
The callers are calling with their feelings not really thinking logically. Call ask questions to understand not call talking crazy and disrespecting these people. By listening I get it a little better than before.
😂 I am still trying to find where their daughter's talent is at 😂 at least azriel can sing . This couple right here do seem like they are hiding some info so they would not look bad .
Wow I know people say they knew what it was.But for them to not have seen their daughter since 2020 and for her to miss her grandparents funeral’s is just heartbreaking 💔
I really needed to understand the Savage's now. I believe every word they are saying, and hopefully, in time, their daughter will realize who truly loves her.
What time does he speak about college because I wanna know about her college life like did she have friends...did they make her go to college or did she want to go
Tim Savage talks in circles ALOT and his speech is very decorative- that's a form of psychology. It's as if the man has a silver tongue. When he is asked a question, he sometimes has difficulty answering the question DIRECTLY. He talks, talks, talks and never get to the point.
My point exactly. He knows how to do all that spinning but signs documents without knowing the content of the documents. He even said he has people working under him but he don't know what he signed? It's obvious he is well versed in the art of communication; being able to answer a question without answering the question & how to spin your response when asked a direct question.
Quite a few things disturbing about this interview. 1. The Savages knew about R. Kelly but were still willing to do business with him dispite the rumors. 2. The daughter was supposedly raped but still in love with the alleged rapist dispite the fact he has been locked up? Is this normal for women who have been raped to be in love with the rapist? 3. The daughter wanted to report the boyfriend because R.Kelly wanted her too. Reported for what? Why didnt they find out why she wanted to press charges? Would this not be a reason why she cant trust the family. She wanted to get some help and they were more concerned with her relationship with R.Kelly.
Honestly Joycelyn is going through and suffering from Stockholm syndrome, which is a situationally where young victims become attached and has feelings for their predators.
@@TeeMarie36 I have been following this situation for awhile. I have seen no evidence outside of the parents claims that she was being abused in anyway. To me it appears that she genuinely wants to be with R.Kelly.
It's apparent his daughter realized she was being filmed and wasn't gonna be apart of surviving lifetime anything. To this date, she will never trust her parents . I pray Tim see this. I'm a parent.
Joucelyn should be about 53 by now. Lol 😂. Let it go Pops. It seems to me that he is enjoying the attention he’s gotten over this whole scandal and he enjoys it so much that he continues to ride this train even though it’s going nowhere. If she wants to go home she can and her father popping up on every platform isn’t going to change anything.
Plus this man forgets that he's the one who introduced his daughter to R Kelly - knowing EXACTLY what R Kelly 's like. You're right,, he just likes the attention. He doesn't really care about his daughter coz if he did, he never would have introduced her to R Kelly
He need to stop that lady from down south Alabama did that oral because she wanted to the father need to stop she thought she was going to get paid good
Westside Chicago right!!!!!!!!!!! The mad he pulled they card!!!!! What that have anything to do with anything two parent that was willing to hand their daughter to R. Kelly.
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@@peacefuldays4255 his Sun is in Taurus. We're not just one zodiac sign. My sun is in Sagittarius, moon is in Gemini and I'm a rising Pisces. His moon might be in Libra which is what I meant by it being in his chart 🤦🏾♀️
@@aging80sbaby I understand we're not just one sign but a Taurus is pretty much a Libra they're both the exact same their both ruled by Venus. They're both lovers of beauty, excess, refinement and their both sadistically money hungry. Only difference in my book between the two is that the Taurus is more domestic than a Libra more of a homebody whereas the Libra is extroverted and wants to be outside of the home
@@peacefuldays4255 there's a big difference between Taurus and Libra just like there's a huge difference between a Gemini and Virgo who is ruled by mercury. Taurus' are not usually devils advocates and don't usually see both sides of the story like Libra. Libra is an air sign and Taurus is earth being under Venus is about the only thing they have in common
@@aging80sbaby When you made your initial comment you said he was empathetic. Having empathy is also a trait of a Taurus being that they are also ruled by Venus the planet of love itself. They don't have to possess the same balanced nature of a Libra to possess empathetic traits. They're both ruled by Venus so they both possess empathy
Tim violated Joy HIPPA’s Law by him putting her entirely business out there for the world to see and hear. Your daughter was grown woman with a mind of her own.
At some point in life parents have to respect boundaries regardless the circumstances. Jocelyn doesn't want to be bothered, they may not like it but they need to respect that.
Somebody should've asked why Tim was feeding lines to Assante Magee while at the press conference outside Rkellys house..And Jonjelyn needs to stay away from the bottle, Rkelly wasn't charged for Aaliyah!
We don't know what them ppl did, Aaliyah was with R Kelly between the ages of 14-16 at least so we don't know who she hooked up with, these ppl will never tell on themselves.... I always thought Aaliyah was older than me, she was 2 years younger than me not that we know, when she was dressing like R Kelly in interviews. When she came out I was a cool 16-17 so she was hella young when 'Age Aint Nothing But A Number' came out. RIP to her, but I bet R Kelly wasn't the only grown man she messed with.
Storm I like when your notification goes out and for me it's a surprise and when you come with random interviews about R Kelly damn!! No F***That!! classic!!! congratulations to you with a great interview
Everyone can separate R Kelly the man from the music. That's not it. For anyone to say that they didn't know about R Kelly, no one is going for that. Especially y'all cause R Kelly was part of Your generation. So y'all were aware. Tim always say, "I'm glad you ask me that...", then proceeds to not answer the question asked of him. Choke No Joke specifically stated to him, R Kelly has been locked up for 3 years, why haven't you talked to your daughter?" He never answered the question. He does that to deflect answering the question. He has a theme which is I just want to know how my daughter doing. Listen, I'm glad you said that 😂. Tim is hilarious.
They have been so much behind the scenes going on for a long time that people's are going to jail because some people's interface with a federal case to get lesser time on their cases.
That's just why joyson is sticking by R.Kelly because she know what y'all did she know y'all involvement and what she said and agree on Gayle King what's the truth
Those two first callers were super rude. I don’t think that’s fair to assume so much of these parents. If you see things that don’t line up ask the right questions but being disrespectful is unnecessary.
The father wants to talk more about the Clarey family, than honestly explain their failure as parents. Yes the Clareys were more obvious with their greed. It surprises me how she does an investigation before she moves into a home & has a family of 10 years evicted, yet she didn't know about R Kelly and how he was. Come on now.
People are so heartless. Victims aren't classified by age. Young daughter or older daughter it doesn't matter. Some of the things that were proven with EVIDENCE that these underage and grown women faced and went through are crimes. Trafficking is a crime. Beating someone is a crime. Starving someone is a crime. Knowing spreading herpes is a CRIME!!! To hear and see tapes of what these girls willingly or unwillingly went through is concerning and disgusting.
Jocelyn Savage should stay clear of these toxic parents. There's more than what meets the eyes. Did you physically abuse your daughter, sir, or worse? Something is not adding up!
Rkelly been locked up a minute so if she still don’t wanna see him that’s her choice it’s a reason she didn’t run to them or make an effort after rkelly was incarcerated
It is very disheartening to find out Mrs. Clary's participation with Azriel's developmental relations with RK. I am not a man and feel only men can answer this question. I can understand the perception of a form of entrapment can be ensued by Mrs. Clary or better yet enticement grooming with Azriel for a record deal with RK. However, wasn't it still the responsibility of RK to not get sexually involved regardless if Azriel didn't have a responsible mother? I'd like to believe that most men would have not gotten involved regardless of the methods that Mrs. Clary initiated through her daughter. But, the blaming of her method is beginning to over shadow the failed responsibility of RK and give the impression that some men think what he did was ok or would have responded similarly if presented to them. I do not agree with Mrs. Clary's action and know some integral men that would not have found themselves in that situation or once a parent started raising an eyebrow about their daughter, the men I know would have aborted all communications with their daughter to avoid any misunderstandings.
My mouth fell to the floor when you read those text messages Storm!!!! 😳. Azriel was a victim of her parents and R Kelly. Her parent’s “game” they were playing backfired on them. I feel so sorry for her. No wonder why she was so angry with them. Joycelyn on the other hand,…I don’t understand. She has good parents. Why is she still there? I feel for her parents. They just have to pray for her at this point.
Joycelyn has been embarrassed for years by her parents. They had her modeling lingerie as a teenager for their boutique, they wanted her to sing, and wanted her to get R Kelly to invest in their businesses. The Savages are not good parents like they portray. They just aren't as low as the Clary's
Don't praise them. Who they should be praying for is themselves! Did u not watch the Gayle King interview? Did u not hear all the times the Savages said embarrassing things abt Joy? He's on this interview still embarrassing her. Did u not hear the recordings, audio & visual, when these two parents recorded their daughter? She had a problem with that. It made her not want to call them. She felt that they would record the conversation. I heard them say, she can't come back to their house to live. They just want her away from R Kelly. That young lady went through a lot. I believe even before she was with R Kelly. The Savages are just that...Savages! They live up to their name!! None of the parents did right by their daughters, not one! But, these two are the only parents that don't have a relationship with the daughter, that I know of. Why?!
He sold his daughter for entertainment period. It didn't work out for them, they didn't get rich or full access to the entertainment business world period
_This was a Good Interview. But It Sure make U wonder, About the time when 1 of R-Kelly houses was Broken Into, Robbed and Trashed- An the females escaped. An he said He knew Exactly Who Did it?_ 🤔
The mom is right once they go to collage it’s hard to guide them in high school my parents couldn’t control me and they don’t play!!
Facts!!
Facts! My sister was in college well supposed to be in college and come to find out she was meeting up with her now husband 😂 my parents were pissed
So that means they are GROWN 🙃
@@misslue1990 who said she wasn’t grown? That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t long for their child’s safety! You’re a weirdo🫠
@@shanellefrmDaBoot EXACTLY! ❤ what's wrong with these people?
Great show Storm🌹💋 thank you for letting everyone come on to voice their opinion
Am I tripping, because they acting like they didn't know the man's history and how the industry get down. I understand that they pulled her back when that happened but they never should have put her in the situation.
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Exactly it’s like she fell in love with her buyer
Didn't some people's defend him during the court trial and didn't we all still listen to his music after he married Aaliyah at 15 years old.
But I do agree that the family was Negnligent for sending her daughter with
He isn’t lying the producers were on Surviving R.Kelly saying the same thing and played the recording. Joy didn’t want to mess with Rob at first. She is very impressionable honestly she seems a little off and very sheltered before she even met R.Kelly. I think everyone knows a person like that.
@@gjrocknthedreamteam3065 You’re correct about being forced. But the correct term is coercion. She was heavily influenced by R Kelly stardom
@@gjrocknthedreamteam3065this belief that a young adult is more than capable of defending themselves against MORE THAN MIDDLE AGE men, women, and a whole industry, is ludicrous. Women and men twice her age don’t know how to navigate thru this type of wickedness.
Who recorded the incident
I think the producers set her up and didn’t get what he was supposed to get THEN told the father….
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That's not parenting Azriel's mother was doing 😕 it's called Pimping PERIOD!!
Shame on her 4 real...
Indeed. They are going to get punished too 🙄
It's so wrong 😵💫💔
@@writtenbyraymildo8557no they won't be punish, the DA had plenty chances to prosecute them
My point exactly!! So How come Alice is not in trouble for pimping?
The Savages appear to be completely different from the Clarys. I believe them and think they are respectable people. Joycelyn was their college-aged daughter that fell under the influence of R Kelly. Legitimate artists were still working with Kelly when his people approached the family. It's like having a loved one in a cult. They will terminate all communication with their families and become totally subservient to the leader. I understand the mother's rage and applaud Tim's calmness.
I heard that a AzeriAl transcript Bullshit
Storm you stayed so professional! We appreciate that 😊
I feel really bad for this family. It's likes she's passed away but they still waiting for her to walk through the door- heartbreaking. Sad that people are blaming them 😕Read the body language. He speaks truth with no stuttering or breaking in his voice - he's being honest.
I feel bad for the family in being that they cant accept responsibility for their own actions. They are not even close to be innocent and yes they probably want their daughter to talk to them but clearly they went about it the wrong way and are continuing to do so. This is a grown woman at this point and they are still going online and telling all her business as if that is healthy. They have been doing this for years and nothing as changed. Its a clear definition of insanity.
Yes he's been honest and not knowing media it'll rip you apart
Agreed! I felt he was genuine
@@mdizot364no its not insanity, its called heart broken
@@forever39 you can be heartbroken but that doesn't excuse their actions that played a role in their own heart break. The insanity part is to keep doing the same things over and over again that they do not want to accept responsibility for.
😂 😂 Everytime Mr. Savage said JANGALAN! Took me out!
It gave the show a twist LoL 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
The wife's acting like a true crackhead
That first caller said flat out - body language they lying!!!
Ms. Salvage left!!! Angry 😡
These people have not walked a mile or even a step in these peoples shoes. You can easily say what you would or wouldn't have done. I'm sure they did their best and mistakes were made but I won't judge
I agree 100%! I’m a little shocked by how many ppl sit here with all the answers and judgment but if they haven’t gone through this you just don’t know what you would do.
@@annluv201 I totally agree with you both.
Exactly... hindsight is a wonderful thing. I'm sure they carry more guilt than they deserve to carry and don't need these haters adding more to that load.
Storm is the kind of interview we need he don’t filter he ask what the people wanna kno
Great interview Storm! He cleared up a lot of things we didn't know
Storm that was a great interview!! It was well balanced-great questions were asked and alot of information was provided. Congratulations 🎉🎈🎊
This was a great interview! ♥️⛈️⛈️⛈️ I do wish the people in the Live chat were a little more friendly but Storm had great control of it all.
Them texts were REAL. I am disgusted because all of this Me Too ish is starting to feel like an agenda. Just finished reading the court file. I am FLOORED.
Where can we read it?
It’s definitely an agenda! Just wait till they try to put charges on all the men in the freak nic documentary.
Good interview, Storm!! Regarding this situation ONLY, their daughter has opted not to deal with her parents anymore. It’s sad - but a reality they must accept. R Kelly’s been in jail for 3 YEARS and if she wanted to reconnect with her parents she would’ve. He’s regurgitating OLD info as if she was physically with him now. It’s difficult for them to accept but it’s HER choice. Periodt!
HE GONE!! SHE GONE!! Pray and learn to love her from afar and if raised right, like the prodigal son, she’ll return.
Again, kudos to you on this one!!
He loves the attention too much
Real talk
Totally agree my same words
He’s literally on tape saying if r Kelly put money in his account it’s going to be a problem
I pray that one day Mr Tim that you and your daughter will reunited....
Not gon happen
@@pep-d7d God has the final say... So we will see...
Save them prayers; Kellz been locked up for years and Joy still haven't reached out.. I don't blame her.. Tim Savage get on every platform that'll give him a spot and spew out Joy's personal business.. What kind of Dad does that? An Attention Seeking Narcissistic Psychopath .. 🤕
I've been watching this in segments because this situation aggravates the hell outta me..
The callers are calling with their feelings not really thinking logically. Call ask questions to understand not call talking crazy and disrespecting these people. By listening I get it a little better than before.
Both of her parents seem like liars and shystie to me. But Hey what do I know?😂
Right! The way she keeps looking all over the place and stuttering 🤨
😂 I am still trying to find where their daughter's talent is at 😂 at least azriel can sing . This couple right here do seem like they are hiding some info so they would not look bad .
I agree!
Out of both mouths, they said that Joy cannot come back home to live. They just want her away from R Kelly!
Your right,I can't believe them at all
Storm, I've been watching you for awhile. You're an awesome Host!! You deserve your own show. Congrats 🎉
Crazy I was just reading something about R.Kelly then boom Storm comes through with this interview. Great job getting a update.
I am so sick of this family and thier crap..
great job 👏🏾 Storm.
Love AshleyB's comment/question. Finally, some sense from a calm, genuine person!
Amazing show Storm.
You've become a real pro !
Wow I know people say they knew what it was.But for them to not have seen their daughter since 2020 and for her to miss her grandparents funeral’s is just heartbreaking 💔
Ppl are always “NICE” when you first meet them.
I really needed to understand the Savage's now. I believe every word they are saying, and hopefully, in time, their daughter will realize who truly loves her.
He has told this story several times. About his daughter in college.
What time does he speak about college because I wanna know about her college life like did she have friends...did they make her go to college or did she want to go
Good interview Storm. This is a mess with the callers, they are giving him and his wife the business 🥴
Tim Savage talks in circles ALOT and his speech is very decorative- that's a form of psychology. It's as if the man has a silver tongue. When he is asked a question, he sometimes has difficulty answering the question DIRECTLY. He talks, talks, talks and never get to the point.
My point exactly. He knows how to do all that spinning but signs documents without knowing the content of the documents. He even said he has people working under him but he don't know what he signed? It's obvious he is well versed in the art of communication; being able to answer a question without answering the question & how to spin your response when asked a direct question.
Yesssss yes yes
The Mother was unhinged. A hit dog is going to holler every time
Yea i agree cause these are strangers if it’s not true negative opinions will not get to you‼️‼️‼️
Quite a few things disturbing about this interview.
1. The Savages knew about R. Kelly but were still willing to do business with him dispite the rumors.
2. The daughter was supposedly raped but still in love with the alleged rapist dispite the fact he has been locked up? Is this normal for women who have been raped to be in love with the rapist?
3. The daughter wanted to report the boyfriend because R.Kelly wanted her too. Reported for what? Why didnt they find out why she wanted to press charges? Would this not be a reason why she cant trust the family. She wanted to get some help and they were more concerned with her relationship with R.Kelly.
Honestly Joycelyn is going through and suffering from Stockholm syndrome, which is a situationally where young victims become attached and has feelings for their predators.
@@TeeMarie36 I have been following this situation for awhile. I have seen no evidence outside of the parents claims that she was being abused in anyway. To me it appears that she genuinely wants to be with R.Kelly.
THAT WAS AN AWESOME FN INTERVIEW STORM
Great job storm ! Well done .
The more I hear, the more confused I become. I don't know who to believe. An unfortunate situation. I hope they find peace with everything one day.
Great interview Storm. I'm so proud of yoouuuuuu 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can always say that when somebody has made a valid point I'm glad you said that
All y'all extorted that man so just be honest
I’m glad you asked that.
Proceeds to not answer the direct question😂
Man, these people still on this, and I’m surprised storm even did this interview🤦🏽♀️💯‼️
It's apparent his daughter realized she was being filmed and wasn't gonna be apart of surviving lifetime anything. To this date, she will never trust her parents . I pray Tim see this. I'm a parent.
Joucelyn should be about 53 by now. Lol 😂. Let it go Pops. It seems to me that he is enjoying the attention he’s gotten over this whole scandal and he enjoys it so much that he continues to ride this train even though it’s going nowhere. If she wants to go home she can and her father popping up on every platform isn’t going to change anything.
Plus this man forgets that he's the one who introduced his daughter to R Kelly - knowing EXACTLY what R Kelly 's like. You're right,, he just likes the attention. He doesn't really care about his daughter coz if he did, he never would have introduced her to R Kelly
That man misses his daughter smh he should never let it go
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Must be R Kelly fan 😢😢
It's his daughter. She came from him. He'll never get over this- reality speaking.
He’s not charged with anything pertaining to your daughter Tim!!!
All these parents have in common is the recruiting and the going to a concert … I see a pattern here
He need to stop that lady from down south Alabama did that oral because she wanted to the father need to stop she thought she was going to get paid good
You had some "heavy-hitters" in here tonight. Great job, Storm!
You mean clout-chasers 😂
You mean ignorant haters to the Savages
“Did R. Kelly ever give you any money for your boutique?”
Response; shakes head yes but says “No”
That is a true sign of deception shaking your head yes while saying no… just crazy and sad
@@TeeMarie36 Yep, its natural so people don't even realizing they are giving the real truth from their involuntary body language
Westside Chicago right!!!!!!!!!!! The mad he pulled they card!!!!! What that have anything to do with anything two parent that was willing to hand their daughter to R. Kelly.
They good at spilling beans about other people but not telling about their accountability.
HE WAS DRINKING, THAT WASNT NO DAMN GINGER ALE LOL, AND THE WIFE LOL, CLOSE YO LEGS FOR YO MARRIAGE 😂😂😂😂😂😂 SHE WAS SIDE EYEN HIM AND EVERYTHING 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 IM WEAK
STORM!!! This was a great interview!
This man Mr Savage is 100% just as guilty as all the others.
Yep!
@@trayc3600 exactly he played a major role in this bs ..he know his daughter ok she just don’t want to be f.cked up with them
That's why she not talking you till this day you got up there and told the whole lot on her
Plus he's the one who introduced his daughter to R Kelly knowing EXACTLY how R Kelly gets down
I love how you're empathetic to all parties. You gotta have some Libra in your chart
He's a Taurus
@@peacefuldays4255 his Sun is in Taurus. We're not just one zodiac sign. My sun is in Sagittarius, moon is in Gemini and I'm a rising Pisces. His moon might be in Libra which is what I meant by it being in his chart 🤦🏾♀️
@@aging80sbaby I understand we're not just one sign but a Taurus is pretty much a Libra they're both the exact same their both ruled by Venus. They're both lovers of beauty, excess, refinement and their both sadistically money hungry. Only difference in my book between the two is that the Taurus is more domestic than a Libra more of a homebody whereas the Libra is extroverted and wants to be outside of the home
@@peacefuldays4255 there's a big difference between Taurus and Libra just like there's a huge difference between a Gemini and Virgo who is ruled by mercury. Taurus' are not usually devils advocates and don't usually see both sides of the story like Libra. Libra is an air sign and Taurus is earth being under Venus is about the only thing they have in common
@@aging80sbaby When you made your initial comment you said he was empathetic. Having empathy is also a trait of a Taurus being that they are also ruled by Venus the planet of love itself. They don't have to possess the same balanced nature of a Libra to possess empathetic traits. They're both ruled by Venus so they both possess empathy
Great job Storm!!!
How can anyone speak bad about anyone and not have proof.
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@@lisalions192 Dude isn't for R Kelly with his sweet a$s.
Thanks mam. You are correct
Tim violated Joy HIPPA’s Law by him putting her entirely business out there for the world to see and hear. Your daughter was grown woman with a mind of her own.
It got a lil crazy with the callers. Awesome interview though.
They didn’t show these texts to the jurors for a reason.
At some point in life parents have to respect boundaries regardless the circumstances. Jocelyn doesn't want to be bothered, they may not like it but they need to respect that.
Jocelyn, PLEASE CALL YOUR DADDY💩🤬
I agree… I know it’s hard but they gotta let her be.
So true. The parents need to mind their own business.
Very true
Great job Storm!💯
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Wow what a good interview sir!
Somebody should've asked why Tim was feeding lines to Assante Magee while at the press conference outside Rkellys house..And Jonjelyn needs to stay away from the bottle, Rkelly wasn't charged for Aaliyah!
If the mother acts like that infront of her husband, I can imagine how she acts out of his presence. Smh
Exactly. Appears too aggressive with the host. Over-talking her husband. Calm down lady.
Sad situation all around.
Good interview Storm but something ain’t clean in the buttermilk. ❤️
It’s just not clean, I get you. The Feds on the other hand found something and we know he likes underage girls and will marry them.
And the buttermilk is Old.
@@tdperrychatham 😂😂😂😂 right like why keep talking about it
In other words RKELLY should have came and hired Jonjelyn parents instead of the lawyers lol😂😂😂😂
Great Interview 😊
When will this man understand that his daughter don't want to see nor talk to him
It’s a harsh reality.
Doesn't mean as a father you give up
Thats a father, never give up
Such a nasty comment, you must not be a parent, you never give up hope, you have hope until your last breath
@@alishia6656 How is that a nasty comment? 🤔 she's a grown adult and make decisions on her own. She doesn't want to talk to him 🤷🏽♀️
I’m trying hard to concentrate on this but when poppa savage refilled his wine glass with that ginger ale, I almost lost it 😂
I sometimes drink soft drinks in wine glasses, makes it taste better lol
@@jacks4009 rich taste 😂😂😂😂
@@youngtheToppGunn1 lol
Aaliyah was grown when photographed with Jay,DMX and Tim was her producer who did have a crush on her but claimed he never acted on it.
He never acted on it because she was underage. He admitted that's why.
We don't know what them ppl did, Aaliyah was with R Kelly between the ages of 14-16 at least so we don't know who she hooked up with, these ppl will never tell on themselves.... I always thought Aaliyah was older than me, she was 2 years younger than me not that we know, when she was dressing like R Kelly in interviews. When she came out I was a cool 16-17 so she was hella young when 'Age Aint Nothing But A Number' came out. RIP to her, but I bet R Kelly wasn't the only grown man she messed with.
Storm I like when your notification goes out and for me it's a surprise and when you come with random interviews about R Kelly damn!! No F***That!! classic!!! congratulations to you with a great interview
I believe the Savages
Everyone can separate R Kelly the man from the music. That's not it. For anyone to say that they didn't know about R Kelly, no one is going for that. Especially y'all cause R Kelly was part of Your generation. So y'all were aware. Tim always say, "I'm glad you ask me that...", then proceeds to not answer the question asked of him. Choke No Joke specifically stated to him, R Kelly has been locked up for 3 years, why haven't you talked to your daughter?" He never answered the question. He does that to deflect answering the question. He has a theme which is I just want to know how my daughter doing. Listen, I'm glad you said that 😂. Tim is hilarious.
She gets real combative when she gets called out.
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Guilt ‼️
They have been so much behind the scenes going on for a long time that people's are going to jail because some people's interface with a federal case to get lesser time on their cases.
That's just why joyson is sticking by R.Kelly because she know what y'all did she know y'all involvement and what she said and agree on Gayle King what's the truth
Those two first callers were super rude. I don’t think that’s fair to assume so much of these parents. If you see things that don’t line up ask the right questions but being disrespectful is unnecessary.
People keep saying they lying but none of us was there
The father wants to talk more about the Clarey family, than honestly explain their failure as parents. Yes the Clareys were more obvious with their greed. It surprises me how she does an investigation before she moves into a home & has a family of 10 years evicted, yet she didn't know about R Kelly and how he was. Come on now.
I think she trying to save face
People are so heartless. Victims aren't classified by age. Young daughter or older daughter it doesn't matter. Some of the things that were proven with EVIDENCE that these underage and grown women faced and went through are crimes. Trafficking is a crime. Beating someone is a crime. Starving someone is a crime. Knowing spreading herpes is a CRIME!!! To hear and see tapes of what these girls willingly or unwillingly went through is concerning and disgusting.
I wonder how LaTocha Scott and Rocky Bivens haven't been identified as being involved with the R.Kelly scandal too.
Look at the look on Tim's face he mad that's bringing back memories
Great interview!
Jocelyn Savage should stay clear of these toxic parents. There's more than what meets the eyes. Did you physically abuse your daughter, sir, or worse? Something is not adding up!
Rkelly been locked up a minute so if she still don’t wanna see him that’s her choice it’s a reason she didn’t run to them or make an effort after rkelly was incarcerated
But no one is saying how she hasn’t been seen or heard from at all. We don’t even know if she’s alive.
Proud of you storm
It is very disheartening to find out Mrs. Clary's participation with Azriel's developmental relations with RK. I am not a man and feel only men can answer this question. I can understand the perception of a form of entrapment can be ensued by Mrs. Clary or better yet enticement grooming with Azriel for a record deal with RK. However, wasn't it still the responsibility of RK to not get sexually involved regardless if Azriel didn't have a responsible mother? I'd like to believe that most men would have not gotten involved regardless of the methods that Mrs. Clary initiated through her daughter. But, the blaming of her method is beginning to over shadow the failed responsibility of RK and give the impression that some men think what he did was ok or would have responded similarly if presented to them. I do not agree with Mrs. Clary's action and know some integral men that would not have found themselves in that situation or once a parent started raising an eyebrow about their daughter, the men I know would have aborted all communications with their daughter to avoid any misunderstandings.
A man of sane mind would have avoid her advances and stopped working with her.
@@tbanks9367thank you.
So who went to him underage, Knowing he was a grown a*s man? Period
My mouth fell to the floor when you read those text messages Storm!!!! 😳. Azriel was a victim of her parents and R Kelly. Her parent’s “game” they were playing backfired on them. I feel so sorry for her. No wonder why she was so angry with them.
Joycelyn on the other hand,…I don’t understand. She has good parents. Why is she still there? I feel for her parents. They just have to pray for her at this point.
Joycelyn has been embarrassed for years by her parents. They had her modeling lingerie as a teenager for their boutique, they wanted her to sing, and wanted her to get R Kelly to invest in their businesses. The Savages are not good parents like they portray. They just aren't as low as the Clary's
Wow, I didn’t know that. But yeah, still not bad as the Clarys.
Naw they sold her too
Don't praise them. Who they should be praying for is themselves! Did u not watch the Gayle King interview? Did u not hear all the times the Savages said embarrassing things abt Joy? He's on this interview still embarrassing her. Did u not hear the recordings, audio & visual, when these two parents recorded their daughter? She had a problem with that. It made her not want to call them. She felt that they would record the conversation. I heard them say, she can't come back to their house to live. They just want her away from R Kelly. That young lady went through a lot. I believe even before she was with R Kelly. The Savages are just that...Savages! They live up to their name!! None of the parents did right by their daughters, not one! But, these two are the only parents that don't have a relationship with the daughter, that I know of. Why?!
He said Jordyn got the gift in 2020 then in the same breath said it was 2017. He's lying! It looks like he is reading from something in front of him.
He sold his daughter for entertainment period. It didn't work out for them, they didn't get rich or full access to the entertainment business world period
Great question big vy
and the fact tim just lied on that .. like it would matter even if that was the case is weird and suspicious af. im tryna give him a fair chance
The intervention happen on the BBC Channel and he told this same story to the guy who came out. She was 19 when she left school.
_This was a Good Interview. But It Sure make U wonder, About the time when 1 of R-Kelly houses was Broken Into, Robbed and Trashed- An the females escaped. An he said He knew Exactly Who Did it?_ 🤔
This man can't look at you in your face.
I never trusted him 🫢
R Kelly still a predator
@@breaknbeat Okayyyy