Ezekiel being the villain is still the most stupidest decision because they don't know the characters and yet they pretend to know which only makes things worse for their movies.
@@JoshuaMaloney-ho2fqyou shut up how tf you gonna have peters mentor be a bad guy? They don’t know who any of these characters are they should sell the rights and save everyone the trouble
Kraven might do good in box office because now more people are familiar with him from the last game they made. Movie still has to be good over all to perform well but the audience can be there
I remember rumors back then that the plot of the movie that Madame Web was going to protect Spider-man mom from a villain before we found out it was Ezekiel who wants to kill Spider-man mom before he's even born. Dakota did say they kept changing the script so this may have been the original plot for the movie. And these were early concept art before the script was changed. Emma must have already signed up before they changed the script and reduced her role. Maybe one day Emma Roberts will tell us that she was supposed to have a bigger role in this movie.
They really could’ve did something good with the script where she was in the background helping all the other Spider-Men in their own battles. Totally could’ve made her the whole reason they have “Spider Sense” and she’s a dimensional link or some shit, always helping them out. Or retconned moments and she saves Harry in SM3 and convinces Pete to take the suit off sooner and/or saves Gwen in ASM2. Idk, i thought of a 100 interesting things they could’ve done.
This actually aligns with a theory I made after watching Madame Web that it was actually set in the MCU and not the Venom/Morbius universe. Other reasons include that we never see any references to the Venom or Morbius movies outside of the Daily Bugle sharing the same logo (I know the film is a prequel set in 2003, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t have references to other movies (like how Howard Stark was in Captain America 1 or how Nick Fury was in Captain Marvel)). As well as the fact that we never see the MCU versions of Mary Parker and Ben Parker (and before you say “Uncle Ben doesn’t exist in the MCU”, the worn suitcase Tom Holland has in FFH has the initials BFP on it (Benjamin F. Parker) and he gets directly mentioned by SM in the zombies episode of What If). We don’t see the Madame Web version of Aunt May (she only gets briefly alluded to by Ben). And lastly, the Spider Tribe we see in the movie has a lot of similarities to both Talocan and Wakanda (that being people getting magical powers from Gods in water, so maybe they got it from Vibranium meteor), it would also explain where the MCU spider that bit Peter came from considering there’s no Oscorp in that universe
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing THE LAST DANCE) MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB) And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT AVI ARAD ruined everything again And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB But he is behind BORDERLANDS, though
Does your whole life revolve around Avi Arad? Good lord we get it. We understand that you don't like him. I don't like him either but take a break from posting those same comments, will you?
I’m pretty sure only a couple months before madam web, Sony was saying that it was supposed to be baby Tom holland but when they realized that it doesn’t make sense timeline wise they changed it last minute.
I mean they could made him a variant, and say canonically hes younger than the mcu version. Like Loki from his tv show is younger thsn the one in infinity war
I wish we could see the laternate versions of Morbius and Madame Web. There are good movies in there. It just sucks that the editing made these films crap. Sony, please give us TASM 3, Morbius the morbillion cut, and Madame Web Non AI Cut
How the fuck was my hopes this high and yet the movie was absolute dog shit I am nice to every marvel movie, including the ones that people say they hated, but this isn’t a travesty of a movie
I always wanted to see Ezekiel fight spiderman just like in the comics, I feel like it would’ve been bad ass to see those two going it. Ofc Sony flopped that whole idea
Im so happy this didnt happen man i don't want Sony to ruin any of the Spider-Man characters we have i don't want them to ruin Tobey Maguires Spider-Man, Andrew Garfields Spider-Man and Tom Hollands Spider-Man
i wasn't basically how the madame web have some easter egg's of spider man deleted scenes so i think how they connected to spider man universe including vulture with morbius and others
I loved this movie because the main character has the power of Astral Projection kind of like Prue Halliwell of charmed and Premonition of Phoebe Halliwell both combined as one
i was never a fan of Tobey's spiderman and that came out in my prime, when i was nuts over spiderman films. The movies are great and all but Tobey never sold it for me, especially his horrendous acting in part 3. Andrew was phenomenal and Tom finally does it right.
this movie could've been better with Spider-Man in it with the original script. And let me clarify that it didnt need to be Tom Holland's Spider-Man. just literally any Spider-Man.
Do you think they could reverse the Vulture Morbius situation by just saying that it was the mistake that happened in Across The Spider-Verse where villains went to other universes?
i finally watched madame web last night and some hate has to go towards the director- dakota johnson looks extremely bored and in a foggy haze as though she has just woken up quite literally the entire movie. Why wasn't the director on this? Its hard to engage with your lead character when they look like they don't even want to be there. Special shout out to when she is having a vision and the villian tells her 'the girls have powers in the future" and she repeats it in the dumbest way possible- 'the girls?' "have powers?" "in the future?" as though she's asking three separate questions and that statement was ridiculously hard for her to understand.
I’m starting to question why did Sony agree to own the rights to Spiderman in the first place they’re only good at making consoles rather than spinoff movies.
I think Spiderman and Ezekiel were fighting in a plane before falling to that building since that first pic is super high. Then as they hit the ground Tom escapes and Ezekiel dies hitting the ground. His own fault but he blames Spiderman
would have been the only interesting thing that could had slightly helped MW, not by much tho. like he keeps having dreams of this spiderman and kind of hinting maybe that was this universe spiderman but it wasn't and instead of trying to face the MCU spiderman, he goes after the allies that would have helped spiderman destiny. sounds alot better then the shit in the movie
I really like that Vulture idea. What if Peter just can't redeem him as a result of his own actions from No Way Home, it would be a real challenge to deal with that guilt.
I know in the comics mac garden became a host to the symbiot and that post critics sence where a peice of the venom symbiote is now in the mcu universe I wonder if this could comeback around and I know that there is a hive mind to all symbiotes where it hate ramii spider man I could only imagine if the symbiote finds its way to mac has we get a Version of venom that deviate from the norm
Not super big into the comic so there may be an explanation, but why can’t Sony just have Miles as thier Spider-Man? Give him a live action movie and he can be the Sony Spider-Man, soooo many people would LOVE to see a live action Miles!!
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I will admit that the movie wasn't prefect, but I thought it was way better than Morbius. I'm surprised that people have been saying that Morbius was better.
@@ryanstauffer119 Moribus Venom 1-2 in my opinion are good movies I think people are plain mad that Spider-Man didn’t show up I’m taking for those movies are just to entertain it’s watchable
@@sebastianpaz1138 Here are my thoughts with those films... I can't think of anyone else that could have played Morbius. I think Jared Leto is a good choice. It just needed a better script to work with and better directing. We can all agree Morbius was a better character for him than when he played the Joker. However, I thought the Hatbox Ghost in the Haunted Mansion was a better role for him. Everyone loves the Venom movies, including myself. I wasn't sure how it would go without the symbiote bonding with Peter Parker first, but it is pretty good. And yes, I do wish that we would see Tom Hardy and Tom Holland work together. Especially since Tom Hardy was indeed supposed to be in NWH longer. They said we were supposed to see him traveling to New York like Venom being in the Lincoln Tunnel. With him arriving at Lady Liberty, the symbiote was going to briefly bond with Tobey Maguire to heal his stab wound that the Green Goblin caused and they would say how the symbiote has the hive mind memories of the Venom symbiote from his universe. Even though he wouldn't be there for long, it still felt wasted with Venom. I don't understand why they still kept Tobey being stabbed like they if they weren't going to have him healed after. And I feel that the second Venom made things a bit too comedic. And while Woody Harrelson was interesting for Cletus Cassidy, I still wish that Jim Carrey was casted like how we all heard when Sam Raimi's fourth film was in development.
@@ryanstauffer119 I dreamed of Jim Carey to be in Spider-Man movie before the 2002 movie got released and we got the movies we have watched since then I just enjoy what we got I always think what if we never got the movies we gotten over the years
I mean it would've been legendary to see the goat Tom Holland but the thing is that there not in the same universe and plus Tom Holland slams the trio but I mean the movie is trash and yall can't just blame me for that but comment if you think you agree
Poop on the phone case for a while to get back to the house and you can get it done with the other team members of re zero curl up in the morning so I can do it tomorrow and than me and my mom and me were you able to get the writing portion of the questions?
they should just have miles moralis as there main Spiderman its such a simple idea don't get why there not doing that. Then again soney would probably ruin him
but chris vulture doesn’t hate peter cause he’s peter. He didn’t hate him because he saved liz, and then after he tried killing peter, peter still saved his life after the plane crash when his wings were going to blow up.
@@3CFilmsClips Ayyy chris love you man. I guess so, but still he had only met peter that night when they fought, so idk if he grew soft yk? Even in the car he says he’s letting him off the hook because he saved liz’s life in washington so they’re even. And then after that he tried to kill peter twice and then not only after peter saved him after that he liked him. So I feel like he grew soft to Spider-Man not peter, but hey we’ll see I guess 🤷🏻♂️
There is no Easter Bunny. There is no Tooth Fairy, and there is no Tom Holland in Madme Web 💀
MEGAMOND REFRENCEEEEE
No Queen of England 💀💀
And there is no Megamind 2
@@MichealAfton1983 Unless we're counting the button of doom or whatever it was called, I agree.
@@Banoonerthat never happened
I think Tom Holland would agree that the movie needs a complete rewirte
basically, plus a different Madam Web and Ezekiel actors
True , I mean he did say he would return but only if the story is worth telling.
If that's true that Tom Holland's Spiderman was gonna be in the film then Tom Holland must've decided nope screw that which I wouldn't blame him
Ezekiel being the villain is still the most stupidest decision because they don't know the characters and yet they pretend to know which only makes things worse for their movies.
OH SHUT UP
Is he wrong?
@@JoshuaMaloney-ho2fq oH sHuT uP 🤓
@@JoshuaMaloney-ho2fqyou shut up how tf you gonna have peters mentor be a bad guy? They don’t know who any of these characters are they should sell the rights and save everyone the trouble
@@WoooodZz2688big facts
tasm 2 is my second fav Spider-Man movie. Visuals and soundtrack still stand up to this day.
Tasm 2 way better than any mcu spidey movie
@@abhisekbera2820tasm and Andrew get too much hate, I’m w you in this Andrew will forever be the most accurate spider man look wise/personality
@@abhisekbera2820 fr
@@abhisekbera2820that’s a reach. Enjoy that shitty green goblin 🤣
Kraven might do good in box office because now more people are familiar with him from the last game they made. Movie still has to be good over all to perform well but the audience can be there
gonna miss the old set
we knew this was coming but still
We need a behind the scenes documentary on the making of Madame Web. I'm sure it would be far more enjoyable than the actual film itself
RIP old studio
Cris you should add the new life size Megan doll to the set 😂
Noooo lol
Ayoo?!
I remember rumors back then that the plot of the movie that Madame Web was going to protect Spider-man mom from a villain before we found out it was Ezekiel who wants to kill Spider-man mom before he's even born. Dakota did say they kept changing the script so this may have been the original plot for the movie. And these were early concept art before the script was changed. Emma must have already signed up before they changed the script and reduced her role. Maybe one day Emma Roberts will tell us that she was supposed to have a bigger role in this movie.
I remembered that too!
They really could’ve did something good with the script where she was in the background helping all the other Spider-Men in their own battles. Totally could’ve made her the whole reason they have “Spider Sense” and she’s a dimensional link or some shit, always helping them out. Or retconned moments and she saves Harry in SM3 and convinces Pete to take the suit off sooner and/or saves Gwen in ASM2. Idk, i thought of a 100 interesting things they could’ve done.
Give us the Holland Cut of Madame Web!!
Even Ezekiel had nightmares of the movie 💀
This actually aligns with a theory I made after watching Madame Web that it was actually set in the MCU and not the Venom/Morbius universe. Other reasons include that we never see any references to the Venom or Morbius movies outside of the Daily Bugle sharing the same logo (I know the film is a prequel set in 2003, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t have references to other movies (like how Howard Stark was in Captain America 1 or how Nick Fury was in Captain Marvel)). As well as the fact that we never see the MCU versions of Mary Parker and Ben Parker (and before you say “Uncle Ben doesn’t exist in the MCU”, the worn suitcase Tom Holland has in FFH has the initials BFP on it (Benjamin F. Parker) and he gets directly mentioned by SM in the zombies episode of What If). We don’t see the Madame Web version of Aunt May (she only gets briefly alluded to by Ben). And lastly, the Spider Tribe we see in the movie has a lot of similarities to both Talocan and Wakanda (that being people getting magical powers from Gods in water, so maybe they got it from Vibranium meteor), it would also explain where the MCU spider that bit Peter came from considering there’s no Oscorp in that universe
VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing THE LAST DANCE)
MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB)
And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT
AVI ARAD ruined everything again
And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB
But he is behind BORDERLANDS, though
Does your whole life revolve around Avi Arad? Good lord we get it. We understand that you don't like him. I don't like him either but take a break from posting those same comments, will you?
@@mistermatute6883Ari Arad cannot have a day off around us . F him.
@@mistermatute6883its probably a bot
@@mistermatute6883I hate him too, but this guy repeating the same comments could lead him to trouble.
@@mistermatute6883 Like his account could get deactivated due to spam.
THE SET IS GONE
I’m pretty sure only a couple months before madam web, Sony was saying that it was supposed to be baby Tom holland but when they realized that it doesn’t make sense timeline wise they changed it last minute.
I mean they could made him a variant, and say canonically hes younger than the mcu version. Like Loki from his tv show is younger thsn the one in infinity war
I swear when I close my eyes, all I can see Tom Holland 😮
I wish we could see the laternate versions of Morbius and Madame Web. There are good movies in there. It just sucks that the editing made these films crap. Sony, please give us TASM 3, Morbius the morbillion cut, and Madame Web Non AI Cut
How the fuck was my hopes this high and yet the movie was absolute dog shit I am nice to every marvel movie, including the ones that people say they hated, but this isn’t a travesty of a movie
I was so caught off guard by the plain white background and then I remembered that you’re moving lol
Anyways rip the old studio 2021-2024
Feels weird to see Cris in the new studio man ;(
I really really wished something like this happened to make the movie much better
I always wanted to see Ezekiel fight spiderman just like in the comics,
I feel like it would’ve been bad ass to see those two going it. Ofc Sony flopped that whole idea
Im so happy this didnt happen man i don't want Sony to ruin any of the Spider-Man characters we have i don't want them to ruin Tobey Maguires Spider-Man, Andrew Garfields Spider-Man and Tom Hollands Spider-Man
i wasn't basically how the madame web have some easter egg's of spider man deleted scenes so i think how they connected to spider man universe including vulture with morbius and others
I loved this movie because the main character has the power of Astral Projection kind of like Prue Halliwell of charmed and Premonition of Phoebe Halliwell both combined as one
i was never a fan of Tobey's spiderman and that came out in my prime, when i was nuts over spiderman films. The movies are great and all but Tobey never sold it for me, especially his horrendous acting in part 3. Andrew was phenomenal and Tom finally does it right.
this movie could've been better with Spider-Man in it with the original script.
And let me clarify that it didnt need to be Tom Holland's Spider-Man. just literally any Spider-Man.
No Chris.. Peter saved the vulture’s daughter’s life. In return, vulture promised to keep his secret.. he basically pledged his loyalty to Spider-Man
I still find it crazy off rip that in Madame Web’s universe there’s at least 6 different spider people that exist, and the tribe
“ There is no Tom holland (madme web) in Ba Sing Se “
Do you think they could reverse the Vulture Morbius situation by just saying that it was the mistake that happened in Across The Spider-Verse where villains went to other universes?
i finally watched madame web last night and some hate has to go towards the director- dakota johnson looks extremely bored and in a foggy haze as though she has just woken up quite literally the entire movie. Why wasn't the director on this? Its hard to engage with your lead character when they look like they don't even want to be there. Special shout out to when she is having a vision and the villian tells her 'the girls have powers in the future" and she repeats it in the dumbest way possible- 'the girls?' "have powers?" "in the future?" as though she's asking three separate questions and that statement was ridiculously hard for her to understand.
I think all of this would’ve been awesome. I am a fan of Venom, Morbius and Madame Web. But Madame Web would’ve been way cooler had they done this.
I’m starting to question why did Sony agree to own the rights to Spiderman in the first place they’re only good at making consoles rather than spinoff movies.
I think Spiderman and Ezekiel were fighting in a plane before falling to that building since that first pic is super high. Then as they hit the ground Tom escapes and Ezekiel dies hitting the ground. His own fault but he blames Spiderman
TASM 1 and 2 were amazing
NO BELTS!!!!
So glad this never happened. It would just ruin everything.
We need a MCU Uncle Ben in MCU SPIDER-MAN 4!
would have been the only interesting thing that could had slightly helped MW, not by much tho. like he keeps having dreams of this spiderman and kind of hinting maybe that was this universe spiderman but it wasn't and instead of trying to face the MCU spiderman, he goes after the allies that would have helped spiderman destiny. sounds alot better then the shit in the movie
The only two things good about this movie was dakota johnson and sydney sweeney
Awesome video web Easter egg
Madam Web movie was decent
I really like that Vulture idea. What if Peter just can't redeem him as a result of his own actions from No Way Home, it would be a real challenge to deal with that guilt.
Maybe he was the amateur camera man zooming in 500 times in every scene.
I can’t believe 3C Films is my comfort videos
How is that even possible, cause contractually they can’t use Tom’s current Spider-Man iteration.
When was this stream?!
Cant find it on twitch or YT
2:27 He wasn't drunk.
He actually was lol he said it himself in an interview
@3CFilmsClips GOSH lol, my bad, poor Tom lol
I love venom 1 and love 2 strictly because of carnage
They want Tom
Cuz he’s the only one who will kinda play ball with them .
Is that the new studio?
No old house just naked lol
@@3CFilmsClips lol gonna miss the studio but can’t wait for new one!!
Where are you even streaming brooo
Tom holland....please bob iger, i love this character, and if you let them do this alone, they'll destroy my career. Im only 19.
Chris was live last night?
Where can I find this stream? Don’t see it on YT or twitch
I know in the comics mac garden became a host to the symbiot and that post critics sence where a peice of the venom symbiote is now in the mcu universe I wonder if this could comeback around and I know that there is a hive mind to all symbiotes where it hate ramii spider man I could only imagine if the symbiote finds its way to mac has we get a Version of venom that deviate from the norm
would of been crazy
If kraken gets $500,000,000 you should shave your head… put your money where your mouth is 🌚
Not super big into the comic so there may be an explanation, but why can’t Sony just have Miles as thier Spider-Man? Give him a live action movie and he can be the Sony Spider-Man, soooo many people would LOVE to see a live action Miles!!
Is this from a live i missed??? I check the main 3c channel and twitch and no live to rewatch 😩
No background 😢
The original script of madam web was 1 million times better than what happened💀
I watched it for sydney.
I mean who wouldn’t at this point
Is that your new setup
Who tf comes up with these “brilliant” ideas
Sony needs someone like james gunn to do there spider-man universe
There’s no one like James Gunn lol
i would love to see Ben Riley in the MCU but mexican... did i cook chris?😏
Thanks goodness they didn’t go with this
That was messed up
The only good part that I like
just curious, but why do we see you actually typing out each picture, did u not edit the video?
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@@3CFilmsClips ohh gotcha
Any one of the spider men could solo all 3 of those bozos
WHY DIDN'T THEY DO THIS
I liked it I had no problem with the movie
I will admit that the movie wasn't prefect, but I thought it was way better than Morbius. I'm surprised that people have been saying that Morbius was better.
@@ryanstauffer119 Moribus Venom 1-2 in my opinion are good movies I think people are plain mad that Spider-Man didn’t show up I’m taking for those movies are just to entertain it’s watchable
@@sebastianpaz1138 Here are my thoughts with those films...
I can't think of anyone else that could have played Morbius. I think Jared Leto is a good choice. It just needed a better script to work with and better directing. We can all agree Morbius was a better character for him than when he played the Joker. However, I thought the Hatbox Ghost in the Haunted Mansion was a better role for him.
Everyone loves the Venom movies, including myself. I wasn't sure how it would go without the symbiote bonding with Peter Parker first, but it is pretty good. And yes, I do wish that we would see Tom Hardy and Tom Holland work together. Especially since Tom Hardy was indeed supposed to be in NWH longer. They said we were supposed to see him traveling to New York like Venom being in the Lincoln Tunnel. With him arriving at Lady Liberty, the symbiote was going to briefly bond with Tobey Maguire to heal his stab wound that the Green Goblin caused and they would say how the symbiote has the hive mind memories of the Venom symbiote from his universe. Even though he wouldn't be there for long, it still felt wasted with Venom. I don't understand why they still kept Tobey being stabbed like they if they weren't going to have him healed after. And I feel that the second Venom made things a bit too comedic. And while Woody Harrelson was interesting for Cletus Cassidy, I still wish that Jim Carrey was casted like how we all heard when Sam Raimi's fourth film was in development.
@@ryanstauffer119 I dreamed of Jim Carey to be in Spider-Man movie before the 2002 movie got released and we got the movies we have watched since then I just enjoy what we got I always think what if we never got the movies we gotten over the years
@@sebastianpaz1138 Fun fact: Before Willem Dafoe was casted as Green Goblin, Jim Carrey was one of the actors considered for the role
I wish people would stop supporting Sonys bulshit spider-less spider-man movies
The goat 🐐 🔥❤
This dude defends the most garbage movies
Is it really a deleted scene...? Much more of a concept art id say... ?
Yes just like the deleted scene with a reference to the justice leage, a deadpool varient also shows up.
@@ArachnidEdits_ Not quite sure to get what you mean ?
No fan made photoshop
@@briantowbridge6573 1 - no fans made a photoshop?
2- no, a fan made a photoshop and thats what it is?
Enlighten me
@@lavalbelanger8532 i was joking
no matter the plot, this movie will always be the worst sony marvel movie to ever exist
The leak was photoshop and fan art and look at Spider-man suit😂😂😂😂😂they placed his homecoming suit and the photo was fake
I mean it would've been legendary to see the goat Tom Holland but the thing is that there not in the same universe and plus Tom Holland slams the trio but I mean the movie is trash and yall can't just
blame me for that but comment if you think you agree
Poop on the phone case for a while to get back to the house and you can get it done with the other team members of re zero curl up in the morning so I can do it tomorrow and than me and my mom and me were you able to get the writing portion of the questions?
Bro what is this movie lmao
Lol 😂
Can you play MK 1.
Don’t disrespect venom like that. Venom movies are way better than Tasm and Tasm 2
Click bate don’t watch
How? I literally provide what the title says lol
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they should just have miles moralis as there main Spiderman its such a simple idea don't get why there not doing that. Then again soney would probably ruin him
but chris vulture doesn’t hate peter cause he’s peter. He didn’t hate him because he saved liz, and then after he tried killing peter, peter still saved his life after the plane crash when his wings were going to blow up.
I know that but I’m saying it’s the Peter Parker side of him that vulture grew soft to. Without that Spider-Man is just a man who put him in prison
@@3CFilmsClips Ayyy chris love you man. I guess so, but still he had only met peter that night when they fought, so idk if he grew soft yk? Even in the car he says he’s letting him off the hook because he saved liz’s life in washington so they’re even. And then after that he tried to kill peter twice and then not only after peter saved him after that he liked him. So I feel like he grew soft to Spider-Man not peter, but hey we’ll see I guess 🤷🏻♂️
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