i was going to buy another guitar but now that i'm thinking I really love my Yamaha C70. instead of buying another guitar i must learn how to play guitar
Best comparison video I’ve ever watched. Thank you, stellar concept and execution. I was surprised but I liked the C7 the best. Warm, balanced. Full sounding trebles.
Hi Paul. Thank you for your kind comment, really appreciate it. For some reason I like the C7 as well. I sold the C12 last year, also the C10 this month. What you mention about the C7 is also as I thought, not to mention the playability. So it’s a keeper. Three days ago, I shot a video comparing it to other guitars. Some ranges to $8000, $10,000 and $16,000. I just need to find time to edit the video, which is quite a challenge for me since I have a 2 year old. It’s impossible to accomplish anything with my baby girl, but I’m not complaining. She’s so adorable. Haha! Hope you’ll find time to watch the new video when I upload it. I find the the experience interesting. Just hoping though that the nuances in tone, volume and character will go through on video considering the background noise in the music store.
If it helps anyone out there in a guitar safari, I own a C10 SP. After a great deal of playing time, the instrument projects loudly and has all sorts of overtones, harmonics, and sustain. Being buried in Poly though, it breaks when pushed, but one can find sweet spots for wonderful, loud sounds. Every instrument is different, but I highly recommend it as a high-quality recording and practice classical guitar.
And some will try and say there’s not much difference between all solid and laminated back and sides. The c12 has a complexity that the others don’t even get close to. That said, the best guitar you can have is the one you can afford at the time.
Great comparison video! For me, the C12 was the overall winner by a landslide! I've been considering getting a C10, but after this comparison, it's now clear that I'm better off saving up.for the better and more sophisticated and fuller sounding C12.
Hi Fred. Thank you for taking time to comment. I agree with you, the C12 is far superior. I actually thought of selling the C10 a few months back but a part of the reason why I'm still keeping it is because it is a crossover guitar. The neck width is significantly lesser, it has a radiused fretboard which makes it easier to play jazz and fret chords with. Hope you get your C12 soon so you can enjoy it too.
Find this video well made. The different ways of playing does a good job showing each guitar’s character; the C12 is a win for me. The Nokia tune...❤️😁
I really wanted to like the C7 best. I'm thinking of replacing my OLD Hondo, and I'd like to believe that there would be no point in spending more for the higher-end models. Unfortunately, to my ear, the quality definitely increased with price in every test. This is an excellent sound comparison video! Thanks for sharing it. The recording quality and playing were top-notch.
I was listening earlier today with decent headphones connected by jack. Now, listening through Bluetooth earbuds, they all sound of equal (poor) quality.
Hi @jimcrants7517, thanks for taking time to post a comment. In my experience trying out different classical guitars in Dubai and here in Melbourne. The C7 is a good deal considering the price. However if I were to buy a C12, I think there are other better guitars that are around its price.
@@Lawrence81392 I'm leaning toward the C10. I want a guitar that can last me many years, but I don't think I could convince myself (or my wife) to invest C12 money into it. I also think some of my preference for the C12 here might reflect my preference for cedar over spruce.
When I bought C10 SP a couple of years before, I had chance to play 2 of C10 SP to compare at the shop. Even both were same brand-new guitar, the sound tone was more different than expected. But one thing sure is both C10 had longer sound than C7 SP which I had. So even Cordoba is mass production guitar, it's better to play and listen to the sound of which you select.
Sure, there’s a difference in tone. I like the warmer tone of the C7. I don’t see any benefit in the C10. It’s a matter of what you’re playing. However, the C12 is at another level, both in regards to price and tone.
Comparing the guitars side by side is very helpful. I can see (hear) why the C12 cost twice the C10, and 4x the C7. Some people commented that C7 tone is warmer, but rather it’s the lack of a clear treble. C10 is a bit better but still the treble is a bit weak. C12 is loud and clear, with a well balanced base and treble. Dang, I thought a C10 would be good enough for me, but after listening it’s clear that I want a C12
It's an interesting observation about the tone being "warmer" though. My father was having a mini-rant recently about people preferring the "warmer" sound of vinyl with essentially the same observation - that there's poor reproduction of the higher frequencies.
@@losthwy Wrong with respect to which of my comments, most of which are vague or observations about other people's opinions? I'm definitely correct with regard to the guitar being a C7-CE and not a mere C7 which is easy to check.
C7 sounds about the best. The C12 sounds fine too. The C10 is the worst. However the differences are so minor, you would just be best off buying the C7.
Hi Im new and im learning, and seeing where I should start, So C7 is cedar can it be Spruce? Hm is C10 Spruce from videos i learned from Im guessing its spruce since it has a brighter tone, C12 is Cedar? C7 is warm and calming I love it, and for that price looks like it will be worth the price C10 sounds bouncy? Kinda loud. I’d choose the C7 C12 is so clear, but C7 sounds warmer and its clear too Winner for me is C7 in terms of sound is smooth, and price is right for me since ill be a beginner, maybe with enough dedication on this instrument ill save up for the C12. Thank you for the review this helped alot!
The C7 is well worth it. Very warm, soothing tone. I had the budget for the higher model guitars but the tone of the C7 won me over. I've had it for somewhere around 10 years and I wouldn't think of replacing it with anything else.
I do hear a difference but I chose the c7 for its delightfully warm tone. The other models are a bit brighter and perhaps clearer but I still think the C7 is great value for money and tone.
Wow! This is really helpful~ I can hear the difference!! I think the C7 sounds warm and I prefer it on some parts of the video. C12 seems louder though. Thank you for doing this video! 🤩 I like Beethoven’s impatient look prompting you to play Fur Elise. nice one!!
Hi Ultimate Melissa. Though the difference are more distinct in person than in the recording, my observation is quite similar to yours. the C7 is warm and the C12 is definitely louder and clear. I never thought of the C10 being punchy, but listening back to the recording, yah the trebles does sound kinda punchy in some parts. Thanks for your comment.
I wanted to buy a C10. However, I heard three sounds: "C7, C10, and C12." Within the three sounds, C10 was nowhere to be found. The sound of C7 and C10 cannot be distinguished. The sound of C12 is unique.
@@Lawrence81392 Okay, so you didn't put the C7-CE through an amp and put the Zoom H5 and a Rode NT5 in front of it? By the way, is it about the same volume or a lot quieter than the other guitars? The video mainly compares tone; so I suppose the volume may have been adjusted to either make a particular guitar audible or avoid maxing out sound levels.
Hi Daniel, The arm rest was made by Kris Barnett. He is an exceptional guitar maker. The quality of this armrest alone speaks volumes about his skills. I have this for a decade now and it is definitely worth it. If you are interested to purchase any of his products, just send him a message. He is very professional. He responds promptly and is easy to deal with. Check out his website and the gorgeous guitars he makes at www.krisbarnettguitars.com
c7 sounds basic to me while ≤ C10 is like charming sunlight ≤ c12 has harmony and melody but i personally liked C10 , i have Cort AC100 which is equivalent to c7
Hi Cav Baron, that’s a good question. This particular C10 is a crossover model, the nut width and the fingerboard is narrower than the C7, plus the fretboard is radiused and not flat compared to a traditional classical guitar. I took that into consideration when I was trying the C10. Played it at the guitar store many times, in the space of several months or even more than a year. Bought it because it is comfortable to play. Now that it has been with me for around 3 years, I find that while it is relatively easier to finger pick and strum mainstream/pop music, it is quite a challenge to play some classical guitar repertoire because I need to pay more attention with my left hand and press as perpendicular to the fretboard as possible in order to have clearance and not touch the other strings below.
@@Lawrence81392 thanks . I'm new to classical but have been playing over ten years. Do classical players prefer higher action ? The c7 has pretty high action out of the box.
@@cavbaron3634- @ Cav Baron- Well it’s not that classical guitar players prefer higher action. Most go for as low as possible but high enough to avoid producing buzzes when played. The usual measurement from the lower part of the string to the top of the 12th fret is around 4mm for the sixth string and 3mm for the first string. Just like what you mentioned, I also find that most classical guitars have higher action out of the box. Whenever I have a new one, I adjust the action to a height that is comfortable for me. I buy a plastic saddle, file it and see how the guitar would sound. I use this for reference before filing the bone saddle that came with the guitar. In my experience, the lowest I can go that still produces a clean sound is a little above 3mm for the first string and above 3.5mm for the 6th string. Buzzes becomes obvious or unmanageable when I go lower than this. I also find that an action height of 4mm is too high for me. Hope this helps : )
i was going to buy another guitar but now that i'm thinking I really love my Yamaha C70. instead of buying another guitar i must learn how to play guitar
Taking it to a luthier for a set up could also give some improvements to the sound and feel of the guitar.
The c7 is warm, what I'd imagine a cedar guitar to sound like and the c12 is really clear, which is what i'd expect spruce to sound like.
Best comparison video I’ve ever watched. Thank you, stellar concept and execution. I was surprised but I liked the C7 the best. Warm, balanced. Full sounding trebles.
Hi Paul. Thank you for your kind comment, really appreciate it.
For some reason I like the C7 as well. I sold the C12 last year, also the C10 this month. What you mention about the C7 is also as I thought, not to mention the playability. So it’s a keeper.
Three days ago, I shot a video comparing it to other guitars. Some ranges to $8000, $10,000 and $16,000. I just need to find time to edit the video, which is quite a challenge for me since I have a 2 year old. It’s impossible to accomplish anything with my baby girl, but I’m not complaining. She’s so adorable. Haha!
Hope you’ll find time to watch the new video when I upload it. I find the the experience interesting. Just hoping though that the nuances in tone, volume and character will go through on video considering the background noise in the music store.
Excellent video! C7 punches way above its weight!
I don't know what have you done but god bless you this is the first time i'm hearing any difference between guitars
If it helps anyone out there in a guitar safari, I own a C10 SP. After a great deal of playing time, the instrument projects loudly and has all sorts of overtones, harmonics, and sustain. Being buried in Poly though, it breaks when pushed, but one can find sweet spots for wonderful, loud sounds. Every instrument is different, but I highly recommend it as a high-quality recording and practice classical guitar.
I think they would make great recording instruments. They have one good thing going for them and that is they're not boomy.
And some will try and say there’s not much difference between all solid and laminated back and sides. The c12 has a complexity that the others don’t even get close to. That said, the best guitar you can have is the one you can afford at the time.
Great comparison video! For me, the C12 was the overall winner by a landslide! I've been considering getting a C10, but after this comparison, it's now clear that I'm better off saving up.for the better and more sophisticated and fuller sounding C12.
Hi Fred. Thank you for taking time to comment. I agree with you, the C12 is far superior. I actually thought of selling the C10 a few months back but a part of the reason why I'm still keeping it is because it is a crossover guitar. The neck width is significantly lesser, it has a radiused fretboard which makes it easier to play jazz and fret chords with. Hope you get your C12 soon so you can enjoy it too.
When you got to Upbeat music section the C7 had no rival... in the other 2. Incredible.
Find this video well made. The different ways of playing does a good job showing each guitar’s character; the C12 is a win for me. The Nokia tune...❤️😁
Nice to know you like the C12. Thank you for the kind comment : )
I really wanted to like the C7 best. I'm thinking of replacing my OLD Hondo, and I'd like to believe that there would be no point in spending more for the higher-end models. Unfortunately, to my ear, the quality definitely increased with price in every test.
This is an excellent sound comparison video! Thanks for sharing it. The recording quality and playing were top-notch.
I was listening earlier today with decent headphones connected by jack. Now, listening through Bluetooth earbuds, they all sound of equal (poor) quality.
Hi @jimcrants7517, thanks for taking time to post a comment. In my experience trying out different classical guitars in Dubai and here in Melbourne. The C7 is a good deal considering the price. However if I were to buy a C12, I think there are other better guitars that are around its price.
@@Lawrence81392 I'm leaning toward the C10. I want a guitar that can last me many years, but I don't think I could convince myself (or my wife) to invest C12 money into it. I also think some of my preference for the C12 here might reflect my preference for cedar over spruce.
When I bought C10 SP a couple of years before, I had chance to play 2 of C10 SP to compare at the shop. Even both were same brand-new guitar, the sound tone was more different than expected. But one thing sure is both C10 had longer sound than C7 SP which I had. So even Cordoba is mass production guitar, it's better to play and listen to the sound of which you select.
Sure, there’s a difference in tone. I like the warmer tone of the C7. I don’t see any benefit in the C10. It’s a matter of what you’re playing. However, the C12 is at another level, both in regards to price and tone.
this videos are so helpful man
Hi Frais, glad to know you find this helpful. Thank you for taking time to leave a comment.
I wish you would have added some mention as to the playability and feel of each guitar. Nevertheless a fine and informative presentation.
Comparing the guitars side by side is very helpful. I can see (hear) why the C12 cost twice the C10, and 4x the C7. Some people commented that C7 tone is warmer, but rather it’s the lack of a clear treble. C10 is a bit better but still the treble is a bit weak. C12 is loud and clear, with a well balanced base and treble. Dang, I thought a C10 would be good enough for me, but after listening it’s clear that I want a C12
It's an interesting observation about the tone being "warmer" though. My father was having a mini-rant recently about people preferring the "warmer" sound of vinyl with essentially the same observation - that there's poor reproduction of the higher frequencies.
@@WVNicholson Or maybe you're both wrong?
@@losthwy Wrong with respect to which of my comments, most of which are vague or observations about other people's opinions? I'm definitely correct with regard to the guitar being a C7-CE and not a mere C7 which is easy to check.
@@WVNicholson Wrong abt why ppl like vinyl and vinyl’s characteristics and transferring those incorrect assumptions to cedar guitars.
🎉much thanks for this best campare Video, very very helpful ❤
Besr comparisens ever ❤❤❤❤
awesome comparison this helped me out a lot.
Thank you for taking time to leave a comment. Glad to be of help.
C7 sounds about the best. The C12 sounds fine too. The C10 is the worst. However the differences are so minor, you would just be best off buying the C7.
I agree the c10 sounded...sour
The Ortega R220 I have sounds a bit sweeter to me and feels just like I want it too,and frets are perfect.
thank you, sir. very interesting
So nice of you. Thanks for leaving a comment!
The lattice bracing on the C12 is absolutely killing the sustain
C7 and C10 are close but the C12 is better sounding for sure!
Hi Im new and im learning, and seeing where I should start, So C7 is cedar can it be Spruce? Hm is C10 Spruce from videos i learned from Im guessing its spruce since it has a brighter tone, C12 is Cedar?
C7 is warm and calming I love it, and for that price looks like it will be worth the price
C10 sounds bouncy? Kinda loud. I’d choose the C7
C12 is so clear, but C7 sounds warmer and its clear too
Winner for me is C7 in terms of sound is smooth, and price is right for me since ill be a beginner, maybe with enough dedication on this instrument ill save up for the C12.
Thank you for the review this helped alot!
The C7 is well worth it. Very warm, soothing tone.
I had the budget for the higher model guitars but the tone of the C7 won me over. I've had it for somewhere around 10 years and I wouldn't think of replacing it with anything else.
Awesome video! How is the overall sustain especially of the high E on the C7-CE comparing to the normal models without cutaway?
Hi! I don’t actually notice any difference in the sustain of the C7-CE compared to the other models without a cutaway.
Forgot to say thanks for taking time to post a comment. Glad you like the video!
Great to know! Already waiting for my C7-CE to arrive :)
Thank you for your videos 👍
4:06 4:31 4:54
I do hear a difference but I chose the c7 for its delightfully warm tone.
The other models are a bit brighter and perhaps clearer but I still think the C7 is great value for money and tone.
Wow! This is really helpful~ I can hear the difference!! I think the C7 sounds warm and I prefer it on some parts of the video. C12 seems louder though.
Thank you for doing this video! 🤩 I like Beethoven’s impatient look prompting you to play Fur Elise. nice one!!
I'm glad you find this helpful, and appreciate you for taking time to comment 😊
I'm not even using headphones and i can tell the c12 is the clear winner. I guess you do get what you pay for!
C12 sounds the best
Hi Miwa Key, Nice to know you like the C12. Thank you for taking time to share your thoughts : )
does it sound better C7 CE or C7 CD?
Do you have a favourite out of the three or not really. Seem like you like all three guitars.
nice
Thanks Carlos! : )
1 C7 warm/even
2 C12 louder/a tad more clarity
3 C10 punchier/not 'my' taste
Hi Ultimate Melissa. Though the difference are more distinct in person than in the recording, my observation is quite similar to yours. the C7 is warm and the C12 is definitely louder and clear. I never thought of the C10 being punchy, but listening back to the recording, yah the trebles does sound kinda punchy in some parts. Thanks for your comment.
I like the sound of the C7 the best, it sounds more emotional
I wanted to buy a C10.
However, I heard three sounds: "C7, C10, and C12."
Within the three sounds, C10 was nowhere to be found.
The sound of C7 and C10 cannot be distinguished. The sound of C12 is unique.
I agree that the C10 is buried in this. A waste of space as it is so inferior to the C12 and not significantly better to buy it over a C5 or C7
I have a C12 but honestly I can't tell the difference.
The c12 I think
Is the C7-CE plugged into an amp/ PA/ whatever or are we hearing the acoustic sound of the C7-CE in the video?
Hi @WVNicholson, the C7-CE was recorded with a Zoom H5 and a Rode NT5 like the C10 and C12 on the video.
@@Lawrence81392 Okay, so you didn't put the C7-CE through an amp and put the Zoom H5 and a Rode NT5 in front of it? By the way, is it about the same volume or a lot quieter than the other guitars? The video mainly compares tone; so I suppose the volume may have been adjusted to either make a particular guitar audible or avoid maxing out sound levels.
What is the brand of armrest on the C-12?
Hi Daniel, The arm rest was made by Kris Barnett. He is an exceptional guitar maker. The quality of this armrest alone speaks volumes about his skills. I have this for a decade now and it is definitely worth it.
If you are interested to purchase any of his products, just send him a message. He is very professional. He responds promptly and is easy to deal with. Check out his website and the gorgeous guitars he makes at www.krisbarnettguitars.com
C7 trounces C10 on many levels. Only C12 seems to sound better than the C7.
how about secco guitar sounds?
I haven’t had the opportunity to try these guitars. Haven’t seen one here in Dubai yet : )
@@Lawrence81392Secco made in Indonesia world class luthier Mr Yosefat Wenardi, i can introduce you if you like to try :)
C7 got the best sound for the money
Hi Huy huy, I agree with you. Can’t beat the C7 for what you get for the price.
I agree, you can't beat the C7's value. Beautiful warm tone.
My Beavercreek classic guitar's neck is so wide and fat it's impossible to play.
What was the top material of the three of the guitars?
you should read the description
Hi, the C7 and C12 on the video have Cedar tops. The C10 has a Spruce top.
c7 sounds basic to me while ≤ C10 is like charming sunlight ≤ c12 has harmony and melody but i personally liked C10 , i have Cort AC100 which is equivalent to c7
Price= sound.
I agree Eric : )
What’s the name of the piece at 4:04?
Hi Josh, it’s an excerpt from Danza Brasilera by Jorge Morel.
Does the c10 feel better than the c7 in playability ??
Hi Cav Baron, that’s a good question. This particular C10 is a crossover model, the nut width and the fingerboard is narrower than the C7, plus the fretboard is radiused and not flat compared to a traditional classical guitar. I took that into consideration when I was trying the C10. Played it at the guitar store many times, in the space of several months or even more than a year. Bought it because it is comfortable to play. Now that it has been with me for around 3 years, I find that while it is relatively easier to finger pick and strum mainstream/pop music, it is quite a challenge to play some classical guitar repertoire because I need to pay more attention with my left hand and press as perpendicular to the fretboard as possible in order to have clearance and not touch the other strings below.
@@Lawrence81392 thanks . I'm new to classical but have been playing over ten years. Do classical players prefer higher action ? The c7 has pretty high action out of the box.
@@cavbaron3634- @ Cav Baron- Well it’s not that classical guitar players prefer higher action. Most go for as low as possible but high enough to avoid producing buzzes when played. The usual measurement from the lower part of the string to the top of the 12th fret is around 4mm for the sixth string and 3mm for the first string.
Just like what you mentioned, I also find that most classical guitars have higher action out of the box. Whenever I have a new one, I adjust the action to a height that is comfortable for me. I buy a plastic saddle, file it and see how the guitar would sound. I use this for reference before filing the bone saddle that came with the guitar. In my experience, the lowest I can go that still produces a clean sound is a little above 3mm for the first string and above 3.5mm for the 6th string. Buzzes becomes obvious or unmanageable when I go lower than this. I also find that an action height of 4mm is too high for me. Hope this helps : )
great info. Thanks so much for the help !
As a acoustic player I found high action classical guitar much more doable, due to lower tension. High action steel string is nightmare to play
thanks.. 🙏👍👋👋
1- C7 best 👋🤚👋👍
2- C12 best 👋🤚👋👍👍
3- c10 bad !..🤔😒🙄😷🤐
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the c10 sounds the worst to me, the c12 the best and the c7 is in the middle
i d go for c7 if i had to choose
C10 is impressive
The C10 gets buried by the C12 and is not impressive even up against th C7
C7 sounds muffled and suffocated
They sound the same
The c12 is brighter but the bracing makes it sound like a steel string
they all sound the same. like nylon strings guitars. c1 is good enough. stop wasting money.