SECRETS of Stone Tower Temple - The Ancient Tribe Theory (Zelda: Majora's Mask Theory)
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
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VIDEO CHAPTERS:
Intro 0:00
The Ancient Ones 2:28
A Tribe Unmasked 5:10
Relics of a Forgotten Tribe 7:16
Outro 9:48
This is my theory as to: a) who built and inhabited Stone Tower Temple, b) their connection to Majora and the Great War of Ikana, and c) who specifically this people might have been. As always, I do not claim this theory to be objective reality - it is simply a theory I came up with :) Thanks for watching and drop a comment letting me know who you think built Stone Tower Temple!
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I’m currently doing research for a possible theory video or fanfic about the sisters’ link to Stone Tower Temple, and this came up in my recommend videos. You made some excellent points. Some I didn’t catch. I have one other smoking gun/missing link (no pun intended) piece of evidence that connects them. You didn’t mention it, but someone else in the comments might. If I do make a video about it, I will let you know. Thanks for a great video!
That sounds awesome! Just subbed to you so I can watch it if/when it comes out. Appreciate the support!
@@Retroatron Thanks! I’ve got several Zelda theories in the works, but none posted yet
Along the lines of a sister temple , and continuing with the concept of twins that balance each other in a yin yang fashion...could there be another mask 🤔
Pun intended
This theory is an interesting mix of good points I've never considered and flawed logic.
First off, the war of Ikana is pretty directly explained. The Ikana Kingdom warred against the Garo. That is stated in the game and is why Garo are fought several times throughout the area, including inside the Stone Tower. Also, the Gerudo are seen in this game and they're pirates, not desert dwellers.
Also, it is stated that Skull Kid wearing Majora's Mask is the one that cursed Ikana Canyon, though this part is confusing as there seems to be 3 different curses in here but they never really clarify. The curse on Sharp of the Composer Brothers was set by Skull Kid. Sharp also mentions that the dead should not linger there and blames "the masked one" for his tricks, but Dampé's dialog and Pamela's father suggest the dead have always roamed there, while Sakon says the dead have been rising lately. And Igos mentions forgetting feelings of forgiving failure as "vanishing when the temple doors opened", among other things, so its a bit confusing.
As for Koume and Kotake, while the dialog does seem like it could imply that, Kotake just gives you a red potion, which restores health. Koume even says "I got hit from behind. That pesky Skull Kid! Did he think and old hag wouldn't recognize him if he hid his face?", suggesting no cares about the mask itself. Koume got hit and injured, Kotake was surprised the Skull Kid could do anything, gave you a red potion when you said how bad it was, and that healed Koume.
Also, while Stone Tower Temple does share some imagery with Gerudo stuff, a lot of the specifics you pointed out are stretches, such as the gemstone (Ganondorf's is green with pillars while the "same one" you point out in the temple is red with spikes. Some similarities, but not enough to mean anything). Keep in mind Termina is a parallel world, of course there will be similarities between things that are unrelated.
Overall, an interesting theory, but it seems you overlooked some stuff.
I really do appreciate your constructive input, especially as detailed as it is! I'm quite certain it's never explicitly stated that the Garo fought in the Great War of Ikana. Perhaps it can be inferred, but at that point it's still an educated guess at best. My mention of desert-dwelling Gerudo was aimed toward the predecessors of the Gerudo pirates. I made the case that if the main desert landmark in OoT was built by desert-dwelling Gerudo predecessors, then perhaps the main desert landmark in MM was also built by a similar group of predecessors. It's clear that Skull Kid had something to do with the downfall of Ikana, as with every other region in Termina. As for curses, though, the conclusion I drew from Igos du Ikana's statement was that the Ikanans being undead was the direct result of the opening of the Stone Tower Temple. As you said, it's confusing, and still only leads to an educated guess at best. Sharp's statement (if we are to believe Skull Kid is the "masked one" he mentions) only confirms that the dead lingering was part of the desolation brought by Skull Kid, not their being risen. Again, with the Koume and Kotake dialog, we seem to be drawing different conclusions. Kotake said "If it's *just* the Skull Kid, then what harm could he possibly do?", and then she acts surprised. To me, this implies that she realized it wasn't *just* Skull Kid, but that he was also aided by Majora's Mask. As for Koume, if your case is that her understating the mask Skull Kid was wearing proved she didn't care about the mask, then you're going off of the same type and amount of context l am. We're just at separate ends with separate examples. I agree with the red potion not really being a deal breaker to the theory, that was just a little thought I threw in there. When it comes to imagery, I realize there are bound to be unrelated parallels. But when there are several symbols fitting within the boundaries of my theory that could be construed as similar, if not the same, that's a better lead than educated guesses or nitpicking of situational contexts in the game's dialogue. Just my thoughts on that. My apologies if any of this comes off as rude, it can be hard to convey emotion properly through text. I really do spend a lot of time on my theories and try to reach logical (or at least semi-logical) conclusions. Thanks for watching!
@@Retroatron personally i think the Gerudo in Majora's Mask are the 'new Gerudo' of Ocarina; as in this timeline Ganondorf is gone, the king of Hyrule might gave the Gerudo new places to live (even though Termina is a parallel world) and they might have set in a new .... adventure ? Who knows, LoZ are full of theories and as a theorist myself i must admit, this is well made yet it puts more holes between Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time but makes total sense on Majora's Mask side. Great video bro, i'll be sticking around here as Zelda theories always picks my interest and you've done it very well.
Termina is a parallel world much like the bathhouse in Spirited Away is. Termina is the spirit world outside of normal time and space of Hyrule. There are both living spirits and dead spirits. This is why you see the likes of Kotake and Koume who were shown becoming spirits in OoT.
I really think that the developers imagined a dilation of time taking place between the Skull Kid's arrival and Link's. Skull Kid embedded himself into, or was always a part of, the history of Ikana. Then he waited for Link to show up.
This does leave out one thing though; the Garo. The Garo are found throughout the Ikana region and even in the temple. They’re enemy spies in Ikana’s land. Either they’d have to be related to the Gerudo witch tribe or there would have to be three separate factions at war. Which doesn’t disprove this theory at all, it was just something I kept waiting for you to acknowledge that never came up
Ah, you're right! I should've brought them up, although their existence seems to have little to do with Stone Tower Temple. There is the Garo Master miniboss in Stone Tower Temple which would have been interesting to bring up. Ultimately though, as you said, they were spies sent to Ikana from a different land. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@Retroatron There is a theory that the Stone Tower serves as a portal (I forgot who came up with this theory), but essentially, the entrance to the Twinmold boss fight is through a portal that leads to a vast desert.
On the Garo leader mini-boss fight, you can see him coming from the whole in the ceiling which is the same portal when upside down.
The idea is that the garo are the desert dwelling race that fought Ikana, and they came throught this portal.
I also thought they might be a third party after seeing this. They're definitely depicted as spies and/or ninjas, so maybe they represented a faction that was trying to figure out what the hell was going on - possibly the magics being used were causing collateral damage and drew the Garo's attention, and now they are caught inside the same curse of undeath as the Ikanans.
@@indigoiozzi I wonder if a way to more so prove that about the Garo would be to check the names. The main character from the secondary desert village in Naruto is named Gaara. I'm curious if they share the same "ga" root and where else that Japanese root tends to be used in. Because both characters are desert related with a haunted undertone.
@@indigoiozzi I think Monster Maze made the portal theory.
you know just like how Fierce Deity was the terminal version of Link I always thought Majora was the terminal version of Zelda but they both were consumed by power where Fierce really was the Real bad guy Like Majora said but she went crazy trying to stop him, after all Fierce was imprisoned in the moon, but Majora was locked inside the stone tower temple that could be accessed by outside forces such as Garo Master and the Happy mask Salesmen, the door that they are referencing to is the portal that you take to fight twinmold, basically a door to another dimension, where it was Garo Master who reopened the portal releasing the undead curse, but leaving the door wipe open with the trap already sprung allowing happy mask salesmen to grab it easily
A small thing to note: Koume and Kotake's names are pronounced "Koh-oo-meh" and "Koh-tah-keh", not "Koo-mee" and "Koh-tah-kee".
Apologies! I probably should have looked that up beforehand. Thanks for the correction.
@@Retroatron dont worry about it man
This bothered me the whole video lol
@@mayanightstar 😬
They're pronounced Ko-yoom and Ko-tayk. I *will* die on this hill 😤
Stone tower temple being my favorite dungeon ever in the Zelda series, it’s nice to see more videos like this!!
I love the soundtrack for that temple
I thought the mysterious tribe who created Majora's Mask was the Twili (considering that the Fused Shadows Mask was kinda similar to Majora's Mask).
That's another theory you could certainly make a case for!
I have easily watched this video 100 times at this point, you are one of my comfort creators bro. Thanks for leaving these theories up
This was definitely a creative theory to come up with! I haven't heard of this, especially the key points mentioned. Good job!
Glad you thought so, thanks for the support!
Riddle me this... is the hero of time origins really from termina
Hey there! No, Link only wound up in Termina because he went in search of Navi after she flew away at the end of Ocarina of Time.
Sho nuff it was something to think about... can't wait for that next majoras mask feed
@@bucknasty8715 Absolutely, appreciate your comments and support!
I think the Garo are our best indication of the tribe that fought against the kingdom of Ikana, they're the only characters confirmed in-game to be enemies to Ikana.
If you speak with Pamela's father about them, he tells you that they were sent from a neighboring tribe to spy on the kingdom Ikana, and that they can be seen frequently near Romani Ranch. You know who else is near Romani Ranch? The Gormans. The same Gormans that wear Garo's masks when attacking the Romani carriage, and who gift you with a Garo's mask for beating them in a race (this third mask likely belonged to the other Gorman, the one who runs the Gorman Troupe); I believe the Gorman's are the descendants of the tribe that the Garo's are from, even the names are somewhat similar ('Garo' and 'Gorman').
You even fight a Garo Master in Stone Tower, so if this theory is to be believed (that Stone Tower was made by Ikana's enemies), then that's a pretty clear indication that the Garo were from the enemy tribe mentioned in the game.
I was playing Majora's mask 3d on my 2ds when I found this. Pretty good theroy.
"Who built and inhabited stone tower temple?"
good question
Excellent presentation and format, this channel has much potential.
Thanks for the feedback and support!
This also make sense, coz apart from the Happy mask sales man and the Skull kid, Koume and Kotake are the only other chars that were also in OOT.
4:04 the voice effect caught me off guard 😂
Wow, I had never thought of this before! Extremely well made and presented video. It’s crazy what different details people notice in this game.
I can't help but watch Majoras Mask videos on theories I haven't seen before. Easily my favorite Zelda game
I'm right there with you, there's still so much to find out about it!
Thought I lost this video! I watched it about a week ago when I was half asleep. Its such an awesome theory!!! I love it.
Subbed!
This is a really good theory and pretty feasible.
Glad you thought so!
This was randomly recommended to me. It's so much better than a video I'd expect to see from someone with 600 subs. I hope you keep it up
Hey, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the compliments and support.
You can also add that the garo came from a distant land. And the same hole you see the garo leader came from is the same hole that warps you to the desert. (Possibly gerudo desert)
Considering that Termina is a parallel world to Hyrule, it is highly possible that a female sorceress group of Gerudo were responsible for Majora's Mask as well as the fall of Ikana Kingdom that would have been the Hyrule Kingdom of Termina's world.
It's pretty interesting to think about. But I also think there is too much connecting the Twili and Majora to ignore. Though it is plausible to assume that the Twili could simply have been the witch tribe you mention as well.
I say it was the dark Interlopers who made it and that juat adds to this theory since its very well possible the twin witches were once apart of the dark Interlopers, same goes for the gerudo. The twilight has multiple sheikah and gerudo even garo references to support this... Majora's mask was a failed experiment... The fused shadows were created after .
I think this makes sense since you use the light arrows and aquire them in stone tower to defeat the evil and solve puzzles with them. In the final battle with Ganondorf you use light arrows as well. Were the witches locking and hiding away the light arrows in Stone Tower as well? Would make sense since they know what is Ganondorf's weakness so yeah it would make sense that tribe mentioned we're spellcasters composed of witches and only light can undo the spell
Ok. Towards the end you convinced me.
this theory could tie in to another in which i believe termina is lowrule and the twilight realm both using mirrors to get to that realm both being devoid of the godesses the portal to the garudo desert could be where twinmold is located similar remains are found in botw desert it kinda of all seems connected but the timeline seems to work differtly there
Subbed. Love zelda lore and theories, and you did an amazing job with this video. Excited for you and your inevitable channel growth. Excellent work man.
You're too kind, thank you!
Really interesting video! I always shrugged off the architectural similarities of Stone Tower and the Geurdo as "desert temple in a game that reuses assets," but this theory is way more fun. Hearing you these connections explained is fascinating, and I'm excited to see more stuff like this down the line!
Great way to start the day! Time to break a hundred subs!
Haha, that'd be great! Thanks for the support, as always :)
literally majoras wrath at 2:08 plain as day
I love this video and totally agree with your theories. I recently played majoras mask again for the first time in probably 15 years and remember why I loved it so much. Amazing video, and you have a very nice speaking voice. Look forward to more of these
Glad you enjoyed it, appreciate the kind words! It's really such an amazing game.
My only correction is that you mispronounced the names of the Twinrova. The E/EI at the end should be pronounced as an "ey". And the "ou" in "Koumei" should be pronounced as "oh". "Ko-mey" and "Kotak-ey". Other than that, I think this theory is pretty banger. Good job.
Haha, thanks for the correction! Someone else also pointed that out, I should have checked my pronunciation before recording. Ah well. Thanks for the feedback and support!
Ayy good video
I wanna see that video about the war you teased 👀
Thank you! I plan on getting to that video relatively soon, stay tuned :)
@@Retroatron hype! I subscribed, and look forward to it and any other videos to come 😎 👍
Nice catches and well put together, enjoyed this theory a lot!
Thanks so much, very glad you enjoyed it!
There's a flaw in your dissection of Kotake's reaction. You really presume that Link talks about the mask. However, when you play the game you should be aware that Link only gets this reaction out of her when he finds Koume beat up and alone in the forest, unable to move and asking for medicine. That's what I personally always interpreted her reaction to be about. So I still think it's a bit of a stretch.
Personally? I think chances are bigger it's the Sheikah tribe. They're actually called a tribe and in the shadow temple they've been known to seal evil and hide the history of Hyrule's bloody past. Next to that you have the uncanny resemblance of in the form of Midna's Fused Shadow helmet (aka the eye). When skull kid stole it from the mask salesman he was still in the lost woods.
A lot of this relies on your correlation of the gem and in my opinion mostly unfound claim that the Gerudo came from Ikana while clearly the female pirates fulfill that role within Termina. While Ikana does have occult/creepy aesthetics. They had been dead for over a century. It was only Skull kid which brought them back to life, thinking they were in a war that had long been ended. Spikes and weird faces isn't strong evidence to go by. But I appreciate the effort.
Thanks for the detailed comment! A number of other people have also taken issue with my proposition of what was said between Link and Kotake, and I suppose it's my fault for using a vague piece of situational context as support for my theory. When she said "If it's *just* the Skull Kid, then what harm could he possibly do?" and then acted shocked, I took that to mean she realized it wasn't *just* Skull Kid, but that he was aided by Majora's Mask. What you presume to have been exchanged between Kotake and Link would, in my mind, at least signify that Kotake realized Skull Kid wasn't acting alone, as she knows he's not powerful enough to overtake a skilled sorceress by himself. The Sheikah/Twili connection has been discussed to the point of exhaustion, so I wanted to open up another avenue of discussion I thought could be interesting. Yes, the Red Emblem is a large piece of my theory, and no more objective than the use of the Fused Shadow's eye when connecting it to Majora's Mask - both share similarities, but aren't undoubtedly the same. I never claimed that the Gerudo Pirates came from Ikana, I suggested that their ancestors, my proposed "Witch Tribe", were from Ikana. This theory of mine is certainly, well, a theory - a system of ideas intended to explain something (stress on "ideas", haha). Thanks for watching!
I was with you until you assumed Kotake was reacting in shock to the mention of Majora's mask which never happened in game. No one mentions Majora's mask at all. But it was still an enjoyable theory
I suppose it's my fault for using a vague piece of situational context as support for my theory. When she said "If it's *just* the Skull Kid, then what harm could he possibly do?" and then acted shocked, I took that to mean she realized it wasn't *just* Skull Kid, but that he was aided by Majora's Mask. As you said, it's not confirmed that Majora's Mask was mentioned, so that was rather presumptive of myself. Ultimately, I just wanted to bounce this idea off the Zelda community and hear everyone's thoughts. Glad you enjoyed the theory nonetheless, and I hope to see you stick around :)
For the Koume potion thing I always though that Link said something like "but she is hurt!" And you would get a red *healing* potion.... so assuming Link said something about the mask and getting a special potion feels a bit weird, but it could be possible.
It's been interesting to read the varied responses to this specific dialogue, and I suppose it's my fault for using a vague piece of situational context as support for my theory. When she said "If it's *just* the Skull Kid, then what harm could he possibly do?" and then acted shocked, I took that to mean she realized it wasn't *just* Skull Kid, but that he was aided by Majora's Mask. The dialogue you propose could have been exchanged between Kotake and Link would, in my mind, at least signify that Kotake realized Skull Kid wasn't acting alone, as she knows he's not powerful enough to overtake a skilled sorceress by himself. This theory of mine certainly remains a theory - a system of ideas intended to explain something (stress on "ideas", haha). Thanks for watching!
@@Retroatron haha I do like your take on it. And the theory in general had some interesting points! Thank you for making these nice videos!
@@leonieschnieders190 Much appreciated!
In the early 1 minute into the video, could just be that the king probably had some of his men scout the tower or a King prior to him had attempted something at the tower. Not really a debunk more or less something else to consider as to the implications of the king's comments.
Hi, i watched a lot, A LOT, of majora's mask youtube theory, and i don't remember seeing this one anywhere, really cool one !
Haha, glad you liked it! That's my goal, to at least bring a new perspective or idea to light.
@@Retroatron I think you are doing great !
Solid theory
I feel honored to have you come up in my algoritmic feed.
I feel honored to have you here!
3:03 There’s no evidence to prove this idea, but hear me out….. What if that Tribe from Legend that mysteriously disappeared, was the Zonai Tribe? I can’t help but feel as though whomever created Majora’s mask, would’ve been considered “barbaric” and sinister enough with magic to do it. Which was what the Zonai Tribe was mentioned to be prior to their mysterious disappearance.
I learned a lot of things in this video, you just earned a new subscriber. Keep up the good work.
I'm glad you found it informative, I really appreciate the sub and support!
Buddy, this was great.
Thank you, glad you thought so!
Great video!
Thank you, glad you thought so!
8:55 and now we get the sweet zoom on Nabooru's chest.
I’m pretty sure the Gerudo pirates are descendants of the ancient ones of Stone Tower.
Exactly my point, it would make a lot of sense!
The existence of Gerudos in Termnia implies the existence of Ganondorf
Shots fired
Majora’s Mask is such a masterpiece, my favorite game of all time! This video deserves more views… Great content! You got yourself a new subscriber. 👍🏻
Much obliged!
I´m honestly not that convinced that it was the Gerudo witches necessarily who build Stone Tower Temple...
I mean if Koume and Kotake of Termina had such connections then I can hardly picture them settling down in a quaint forest somewhere running a shop and giving boat rides to tourists
Are we talking about the Koume and Kotake who live in the Southern Swamp? Or those from Hyrule? Because I can't figure out why they'd be in Termina.
From Southern Swamp. Much like the other characters in Majora's Mask, the Terminian Koume and Kotake are Hyrulean counterparts from Ocarina of Time.
CPAP machine got me lmao. Awesome videos, hope you get like a million subs one day. Also I was curious since I'm a new sub. Have you made any content on how the inhabitants of STT also hated the goddesses, so far as to put a flaming finger pointing up to the heavens? Just one of those weird MM details I've always wondered about
Appreciate it! No, but that's an interesting detail I hadn't thought about before... Clearly the Gerudo witches were edgy back in their teen years.
Very interestingly awesome and inspiring Zelda theory , I really loved and enjoyed it.
I got a ton of inspiration from it too, for the short novella story entries in the novella collection series Mysteriarch Mythos anthology I’m working on writing.
I love getting inspiration from Zelda theories for my interconnected short stories.
The Garo were part of the ancient interlopers, possibly the ancient Twili. The boss room in Stone tower is a portal to the haunted wasteland in Hyrule near Arbiters grounds. They had created Majoras mask in the tower, and wanted to travel to Hyrule’s sacred realm to kill the goddesses but failed.?
LoL Link could’ve just said that he found her in hurt in the woods. Wasn’t it just a red potion he was given?
You can certainly believe that! Yes, it was a red potion. I put too much stock in situational context, a relatively unreliable way of judging stimulus. In this case, I believed the stimulus to have been Majora's Mask. When Kotake said "If it's *just* the Skull Kid, then what harm could he possibly do?" and then acted shocked, I took that to mean she realized it wasn't *just* Skull Kid, but that he was aided by Majora's Mask. As you pointed out, something else could have been said (although even if Link were to have said what you proposed, that would at least prove Kotake realized that Skull Kid had help, as she knows Skull Kid wouldn't be able to cause that much harm himself). At the end of the day, a theory remains a theory - a system of *ideas* intended to explain something. Thanks for watching!
Ok, but what about the Garo? They're kind of crucial to the War, but I'm willing to accept that they weren't the main aggressors against Ikana. Maybe they were a third party trying to put an end to it, because the evil magic was causing a lot of collateral damage?
It's possible i wanna see the ikana theory like who made the temple
I think they reused all of the ocarina assets to save time .
Why do you not have more subscribers you have a lovely voice
Haha, I can hardly stand to hear my voice, sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me. Glad you think so, though!
I’m sad cus I thought they where a majora cult who worshiped it
Good theory. But you could have given out more information and making the video longer.
I guess One must make due with what he learns...
Refer to the manga it is not cannon. It explains how the mask was made. Links ancestor made the mask after defeating the dragon and buried it deep underground so nobody could find it after he realizes the dragon possessed the mask. Then thousands of years later the happy mask sales man hears what sounds like a heart beat from some odd red roots. Digging up the Majora's mask and looking into the eyes, he was possessed to try it on but quickly got scared of it and threw it off his face. He tried to destroy it but but every time he did he failed. Skull kid attacked him on his final attempt to destroy it. Stealing and running off into the deep forest with the mask. The mask was made in Hyrule originally.
Can you talk about the fierce deity
I'll probably touch on the fierce deity at some point, there's definitely a lot to theorize about him
Here's one for you, there's theroy going around about the twili, but what if the s.t.t. was simply a gateway, the tribe never living there but coming through the terminal as a defense they hexed the dead tribe only because the dead tribe attempted to breach the s.t.t. the tribe who goes thru the gateway used majors mask on the now dead folks but such power was too much and they had to go back through the s.t.t. and I'm still not certain if the fused shadow is majora's mask, as in that's how it appears in another reality out of termina or if that's the v2 of Majora's mask...
I am curious how the Happy Mask Saleman got the Mask in the first place. After all, it was "sealed away". Did that man seal it away himself, and was he part of that tribe?
Also, I personally think the Majora's Mask was created by the Sheikah, specifically because of the Eyes. The Mask of Truth exists in Termina, as does the Len of Truth. They are sealed in the floating island on Snowpeak (magic) and in the Gold Skulletta House (a Cursed Place). In fact that curse seems to be a Sheikah creation.
In Hyrule, the Cursed House is in Kakariko, the Shiekah village. One of the Sons who is cursed holds the Stone of Agony, another Shiekah creation.
Also, Shiekahs are one of the only tribes that don't appear in Majora's mask despite their artifacts being everywhere.
Are there any clues to the fierce diety before given the fierce diety mask?
Thank you for the great theory and video. But I do have some questione. If majoris mask did come from Termina how did the happy mask salesman have it outside of Termina? I’m not sure but is there any evidence to prove that he had been there before?
Extremely valid question, one I wondered about myself. The fact that we see him in the same woods that connect Hyrule to Termina (when he gets ambushed by Skull Kid) could mean he was coming from Termina. And the fact that he knew where to find Skull Kid could either mean Termina was nearby, or he at least knew where Termina was located and that Skull Kid lived there. Or he heard about Termina from a random passerby, who knows. It's definitely something to think about, but I think him being in those same woods is a good clue.
I thought the ikana were fighting the garo in the war
Good thought, it's possible they could have although it's never confirmed. All we know about the Garo is that they were sent from a different nation to spy on Ikana.
But how did the mask salesman get past the spells sealing the mask away?
If you haven't watched it yet, this theory would work in conjunction with one of my other theories (The Devil Theory) where I suggest that Sharp opened the door to Stone Tower Temple. From there, the Happy Mask Salesman could have found it inside. Of course, these are simply theories.
@@Retroatron oh, ok. Guess I'll take a look at the other video
He wasn't stupid enough to wear the mask. He knew of its evil.
I'd say focus on Majora being linked to Ikana, AT ALL. That's your biggest feat, because even now, 17 years after the infamous HylianDan Tower of Babel theory, people still doubt Majora or any of these vague lore tellings are connected to Termina, and instead more a web of disconnected points all coalescing with some wanderers from Hyrule like Link and Skull Kid. The Koume and Kotake concept is too big a stretch.
Inb4 1 million subscribers
That would be a dream come true! Thanks for the support.
Hmm just found the channel....but you have earned a subscriber... reason being your theory was unique...no theory i have heard points to these 2
Glad you liked it, I always try to keep things fresh and unique. Lots of stuff has been discussed to death, so I'm always looking for new perspectives.
Meh, the "Ancient" may be even way older than the Ikana and Garo country itself.
There is no way women built any tower. When was the last time you saw any structure made solely by women?
It's basically a guarantee that any dwelling place of the Gerudo was constructed solely by women, seeing as women make up 99.9% of their population with only one male being born roughly every 100 years.
@@Retroatron Not really since in Ocarina they captured carpenters who were willing to build for them. That's what you got to learn about women. They just get men to do all the hard work.
more like majoras ancient trilobite
To dramatic, other than that ur good
Appreciate the feedback, always trying to improve. Thanks!
ill be honest ...im still not convinced....not really any solid proof to connect your theory...also when it comes to the part where u tell kotake about kume there isn't any guarantee he says anything about the mask considering....beside the mask is basically ignored by most npcs in the game hence why they say skull kid instead of majora..but thats just me.
Hey, the burden of proof lies with the theorist! The thing with Kotake's statement is that the context is situational, something that's tough to use as proof. When she said "If it's *just* the Skull Kid, then what harm could he possibly do?" and then acted shocked, I took that to mean she realized it wasn't *just* Skull Kid, but that he was accompanied by Majora's Mask. I thought I made a pretty convincing argument, but I can't convince everyone and that's alright. Thanks for watching!
@@Retroatron ill admit alot of what is said and proof provided is compelling...if you have played the game which we all have and loved it completely..alot of npc don't even know what majora's mask is or the power it has except for the mask salesman himself and if you take what it does in botw (make link harder to spot) the mask can be invisible to all but those it wishes to see it...and theres only one tribe in majoras thats used stealth like that in the canyon...tho u need the garo mask to find them and there boss the garo master is found in the temple itself..use that info...
Could be the Zonai.
Interesting thought, care to expound? Thanks for watching!
Honestly…this theory isn’t very good…but god the format and and actual proof is very well dond
You're absolutely entitled to that opinion! Appreciate you checking it out nonetheless :)
@@Retroatron Thank you, I just think it’s too farfetched but your points are increíble nonetheless
@@raf6213 Hey, that's why it's called a theory - a system of *ideas* (key word, haha) intended to explain something. I'm enjoying simply bouncing ideas off the Zelda community, everyone seems pretty supportive of that, even if they personally find something farfetched. Hope to see you stick around!
Who the f*ck is Kumi?
the theory isn't bas byr ur has more holes than a piece of swiss chese.
I can maybe buy the garo being a split faction of the Gerudo in Ternina hence why they voth use a dual weapon fighting style...it's [pssible the split happened before Link arrived and that's why the Gerudo are in Great Bay...buuut the rest makes me feel like you should have posted this on the first of April not the second.
First off trying to compare the witches from Hyruke to their Terminian counterparts? aside from looks they;re nothing alike.
,,,it is possible they hel[ed male the towwer though if Ikana was taking over Termina and the Garo opposed them the witches could have made the stronghold and maybe put cursing wards on the door to the tower...and realized they over did it when dead people started walking around said "a'ight we're gona head out" and moved to the swamp. but i think the "twin" comparison with the boss names was a bit too April fools however I do believe they could have had something to do with ir atleast known about the mask.
over all it's not the worst theory but it needs work.
Masons?! 👁️⃤
Illuminati confirmed. They probably built the pyramids too!
@@Retroatron Gerudo ARE based on Egyptions
This is the worst speculation video I have ever seen of Majora's Mask. Really, congratulations, this is something even worse than Mat Pat's "LiNk Is DeAd"