I get it when similar items have similar names, like crit glasses vs. void glasses, but then they do it for stuff that doesn't even make sense like saying ruckler instead of rose buckler. Like just say buckler :( Runner is confusing too, why not just say gunner?
Need one for trimping :) Trimping: "[In t]he bizarre world of hip hop shrimp dancing[,] Artists who practice Trimping create dance-movements to replicate the natural motion of the majestic shrimp. The earliest known pioneer of Trimping is Michael "boogaloo shrimp" Chambers. guy1: let me see you trimp guy2: (wriggles around in a fetal position) trimp trimp trimp ex2: "I'm trimpin' I'm trimpin' I'm trimpin'" ex3: [You know damn well] Trimping ain't easy [written] by [the wise sage] D-D-D-DJ T-Rimp IN DA MIXXX July 29, 2010"
The editing in this video was really nice. I liked the holy choir when the scrapper was finally found, as well as the little pop-up to explain what "hosting" was.
Railgunner’s scope zoom level with the secondary m2 is so much more user friendly than the primary. The primary M2 gives me a headache with how often you zoom in and out lol. That said the slowing mines are akin to taking bubble shield over harpoons. It’s just objectively worse in every single way imaginable
maybe it's a skill issue for me but even with the secondary m2 the scope zoom still feels so awful, it severely limits your awareness and is genuinely terrible for trying to shoot close up enemies. again this could be straight copium but to me it feels like so many aspects of railgunner have terrible synergy with ror2 gameplay as for the slowing mines i feel like an interesting change would be to instead swap the effect to a miniature version of the black hole item that affects everything, including projectiles&player. could offer interesting mobility options while still retaining highly useful utility in enemy suppression imo it sucks how downright clunky most of railgunner's kit is, by far has been my least favorite surivvor to play
I just need a "not zoom in at all" M2 rifle and I'm good to go :9 If I wanna play default m2 & special I play with a nerf mod to make it not one shoting everything early game (down to 800% m2 & 3k special)
@@chriss4855 Random side note that very likely won't be applicable to your exact scenario, but the VR mod puts Railgunner's scope on the gun itself. As someone who usually gets sick when playing Railgunner Vanilla, but doesn't have issue with VR games, it's a god send because it lets me enjoy the character.
this was the most beautifully played mithrix fight I think I've ever seen. Just awesome top form with great planning/execution of every maneuver. So sick
I just finished unlocking every item/ability and am starting to win on Monsoon, still struggle, especially time management and what/when to scrap and print. Your vids are great to relax and learn while watching!
i really like the idea of backup mags giving alt m2 more projectiles, maybe if it had a cooldown and you could charge it up whilst not shooting and then release it like a shotgun blast could be fun
I had a day where I felt like mixing it up, played exclusively with what I though were the worst loadouts on each character. Honestly I was pleasantly surprised by polar field, it's actually pretty good the main problem is that it takes away your main form of mobility as a sniper. If you had some other reliable movement option it would genuinely be a consideration I feel
Seeing the thumbnail and thinking “oh god he’s gonna use the bad ones” was so much more potent knowing that I had just started my eclipse climb on the character
I like alt m2 because it scales better with attack speed, also my general rule of thumb is that default m2 goes better with cryocharge and alt goes better with supercharge.
I am open to using literally any skill, ability, and passive. I kinda find it entertaining with the alt m2 for railgunner just going rapid fire carbine, but it also requires a lot of focus and staying zoomed in to do. Which in this game, is not very smart. Regular m2 probably is viable just for the fact it forces you to zoom out and also actually does something with backup mags.
That Mythrix fight was fire Hey race, will we ever see you picking up an euology once in a while to freshen up the loot pool and play with some lunars? They may be broken, but for most of them the main problem (rather than the brokenness itself) is how easily accessible they are through the bazaar - which wouldn't be a problem if you allowed yourself to only use lunars found in the wild. Some of them allow for very cool builds and it's a shame never seeing them in action!
Although I prefer default M2, the alternate does actually benefit from attack speed increases which is pretty nice 😊 It makes Railrunner a little more of a proc survivor, and the scope also feels way better, except at long range. Ii makes Scythe and Instincts actually usable, although Scythe still sucks in Eclipse.
Still gives you some versatility. Lets you do something like obliterate a golem with the boosted shot and then use the next 2 on beetles or something@@RacesVideos
i like alt m2, the main reason being the fact that attack speed scaling messes with the reloads, so any temporary attack speed buffs can easily screw that up. For the R, a big advantage to the cryo is that you can keep shooting arter using it, instead of having the recharge. The default mobility bonus is just too good to pass up for the milk toast alternate. Lastly, I quite enjoy picking up heresy primary on Railgunner. The reliable M2 means you dont have the issues with downtime many other charachters do, and also you can keep shooting the primary even ehile the R is recharging.
The timing window for the reload is the same as default as it is with attack speed, it just adds on an extra margin of error. If you reloaded after - for example - 1 sec with 0 attack speed you could still reload after 1 second with 30 attack speed items
i think the alt m2 should make it so increased charges of the skill give it the ability to pierce, where each extra charge = an extra enemy that can be hit (1 backup mag = 2 enemies while 5 backup mags = 6 enemies)
Genuinely think frost relic is my favourite red for railgunner. The fov increase is so nice. Just watching this getting claustrophobic with his zoomed in you are while scoped. Hard scoping with alt m2 kinda makes it worse I think.
Y'know, seeing how just Railgunner's alt M2 and Shift makes her absolutely horrendous to use just tells me a lot about how they are factually correct loadouts that are just more effective than their counterparts (with the glaring exception of MUL-T's alt primaries (saw, nailgun and bar, the last one sucks after the nerf it got))
I am open to using literally any skill, ability, and passive. I kinda find it entertaining with the alt m2 for railgunner just going rapid fire carbine, but it also requires a lot of focus and staying zoomed in to do. Which in this game, is not very smart. Regular m2 probably is viable just for the fact it forces you to zoom out and also actually does something with backup mags. Seriously, like backup mag should make the alt m2 take longer to fire, but fire in bursts instead. As in, say you have two mags, you fire three shots in quick succession, but it takes more time to fire those three shots. That way it actually does something, more burst damage instead of sustained dps.
Alt m2 with predatory instinct is all im gonna say Alt m2 is just better for bosses since you can make use of the fact that this one can scale with attack speed
I think 2 ways that could really help improve the Alternative Zoom shot would be to have back up mags increase the damage of the shot (or more projectiles each 5 stacks of magazines) AND Because when your scoped, it shows targets through walls and terrain Why not let it shoot THROUGH the terrain? Since it already doesnt do as much damage?
I use alternative M2 cus M1 mobility is just too fun and convenient to not build attack speed. The only situation I ever use default M2 is when i'm on multiplayer and there's like a captain or commando
Base M2 might have higher potential for more micro-skillful players, but alt M2 forces you to learn gamesense to really use it to its full effectiveness as you mentioned at the end, which can be seen as it being weaker but J consider it far more meaningful and interesting a skill to develop and use than reloading in the middle of a chaotic game
I actually played RoR2 years ago and just didn't like commando so much I stopped playing entirely, I decided to hop back in, suck it up and suffer for a bit to unlock the cool stuff, but the Railgunner was sitting there, and she looks at me, and I look at her, and she looks at me, and I look at heeer, love at first run
"If I'm still learning stuff at 5000 hours then someone at 400 still has things to learn" is crazy. Dude, you're not even considering how information becomes more available with the passing of time. You didn't learn anything for 4000 of those hours because nobody else knew anything either, simple as that. When other people learned something, they shared it, that's how you learned it. I have only 250 hours and I bet I know about as much as someone with 10 times my playtime. How much time you spend on something does not directly indicate your learning ability, if anything, it just shows that you specifically are a slow learner if you still find new things at 5000 hours. You can spend 10 hours playing the game, and also 100 hours learning about it from outside sources, or you can spend 100 hours playing the game and trying to learn on your own, and then learn 10 times as much in 10 times less time. Playtime alone does not indicate player level, it only indicates how much time you spent on actual, your own runs. It's definitely necessary for practice, but it's 100% not the whole picture.
the implication that you think people are unable to learn without everything presented to them in a manual says a lot more about you than it does me. where do you think new discoveries in this game constantly come from? god?
@@RacesVideos oh, didn't know this game had a *manual* from the developers that explains exactly how every little detail works. If you're talking about the wiki, that's managed by other players and can be inaccurate.
@@RacesVideos Big oof, the site doesn't encourage people to tryna debate the previous editor at all, & doesn't have upvote system is how it goes I guess.
i never used the alt mine, the mobility that the default one provides is just insane
as a half rail gunner main it feels like playing captain when you lose mines
The alt mine ain't even that good, it's a way worse engi shield and engi shield is so bad too.
Using the m1 as a fill in for the missing feather at mithrix was really impressive
jetpack joyride
RoR2 players must have some kind of crippling fear of compound words and terms. "Vrit", "Vands", "Veilds", "Runner", "Wungus"
I get it when similar items have similar names, like crit glasses vs. void glasses, but then they do it for stuff that doesn't even make sense like saying ruckler instead of rose buckler. Like just say buckler :( Runner is confusing too, why not just say gunner?
Still no diest friend tho that one is just dio
@@0osk Yeah I think it's just a running joke at this point LOL
Wungus is funny though. The rest I'll give you.
The little trivia at 17:23 just made my day, we need more of those when terms like h0sting appear
Need one for trimping :)
Trimping:
"[In t]he bizarre world of hip hop shrimp dancing[,] Artists who practice Trimping create dance-movements to replicate the natural motion of the majestic shrimp. The earliest known pioneer of Trimping is Michael "boogaloo shrimp" Chambers.
guy1: let me see you trimp
guy2: (wriggles around in a fetal position) trimp trimp trimp
ex2: "I'm trimpin' I'm trimpin' I'm trimpin'"
ex3: [You know damn well] Trimping ain't easy
[written] by [the wise sage] D-D-D-DJ T-Rimp IN DA MIXXX July 29, 2010"
@@herny2991you copied that from the ror2 techs video.
what is bonfire
@@lumihouse1 it's either part of the umbral mod, or one people use with it, where you respawn if you die in mithrix, like the bonfires of dark souls
The editing in this video was really nice. I liked the holy choir when the scrapper was finally found, as well as the little pop-up to explain what "hosting" was.
Railgunner’s scope zoom level with the secondary m2 is so much more user friendly than the primary. The primary M2 gives me a headache with how often you zoom in and out lol.
That said the slowing mines are akin to taking bubble shield over harpoons. It’s just objectively worse in every single way imaginable
maybe it's a skill issue for me but even with the secondary m2 the scope zoom still feels so awful, it severely limits your awareness and is genuinely terrible for trying to shoot close up enemies. again this could be straight copium but to me it feels like so many aspects of railgunner have terrible synergy with ror2 gameplay
as for the slowing mines i feel like an interesting change would be to instead swap the effect to a miniature version of the black hole item that affects everything, including projectiles&player. could offer interesting mobility options while still retaining highly useful utility in enemy suppression
imo it sucks how downright clunky most of railgunner's kit is, by far has been my least favorite surivvor to play
I find quick scoping with railgunner satisfying, the m2 makes him one of my favs to play
yeah taking alt mines is like taking a chronobauble over actual speed imo
I just need a "not zoom in at all" M2 rifle and I'm good to go :9
If I wanna play default m2 & special I play with a nerf mod to make it not one shoting everything early game (down to 800% m2 & 3k special)
@@chriss4855 Random side note that very likely won't be applicable to your exact scenario, but the VR mod puts Railgunner's scope on the gun itself. As someone who usually gets sick when playing Railgunner Vanilla, but doesn't have issue with VR games, it's a god send because it lets me enjoy the character.
this was the most beautifully played mithrix fight I think I've ever seen. Just awesome top form with great planning/execution of every maneuver. So sick
Man, that Umbral fight was insane! Legitimately looked like something out of a FromSoft game! And you made it look super smooth as always!
railgunner is so satisfying to watch, race also has some impressive aim. love the editing as always, I appreciate the final fantasy music!!
I just finished unlocking every item/ability and am starting to win on Monsoon, still struggle, especially time management and what/when to scrap and print.
Your vids are great to relax and learn while watching!
A scrapper and mocha printer is all you could've asked for on Stage 5. I've never seen a railgunner fly like that
You make this game look easy and it still baffles me how good you are
Ty
i really like the idea of backup mags giving alt m2 more projectiles, maybe if it had a cooldown and you could charge it up whilst not shooting and then release it like a shotgun blast could be fun
Or make it a cooldown burst fire
RG flies off the planet alone at the end lol
ha! good catch
I was hearing the smg sound and have to check that part
😂loved the end. Railgunner says f*ck the ship, imma shoot my way out of the moon ahahah. Very good editing overall as well
Huge respect to Race for taking the self nerf and not using polar field during the mithrix fight. Just too strong 💪
I had a day where I felt like mixing it up, played exclusively with what I though were the worst loadouts on each character. Honestly I was pleasantly surprised by polar field, it's actually pretty good the main problem is that it takes away your main form of mobility as a sniper. If you had some other reliable movement option it would genuinely be a consideration I feel
That fight against mithrix was so epic with the jump boost of your M1
That Umbral Mithrix fight was the coolest thing I've ever seen
kami I see you sneaking ffxiv music in
6:33 ty for showcasing my ignorance for an educational moment for the community
forever and always
Alt mine buff could give a chance to freeze enemies on hit when the area.
*Freeze with a 100% chance
Damn, watching Race fight Umbral is just so mesmerizing.
the m1 flying during mithrix so sick
The game actively trying to go for checkmate at 18:40 made me feel secondhand panic.
Seeing the thumbnail and thinking “oh god he’s gonna use the bad ones” was so much more potent knowing that I had just started my eclipse climb on the character
Didn't expect the FF14 music at Mithrix, love it!
My man race really did a bird coo at 2:27 when he saw those chests
railgunner m1ing at the end lol
I like alt m2 because it scales better with attack speed, also my general rule of thumb is that default m2 goes better with cryocharge and alt goes better with supercharge.
Lmao that ending
I am open to using literally any skill, ability, and passive. I kinda find it entertaining with the alt m2 for railgunner just going rapid fire carbine, but it also requires a lot of focus and staying zoomed in to do. Which in this game, is not very smart. Regular m2 probably is viable just for the fact it forces you to zoom out and also actually does something with backup mags.
I swear whenever i get backup mags on railgunner with normal M2 because i just forget i have more shots and just reload everytime anyway
Loving the HOME at 4:40 :]
the ffxiv ost for the final fight was awesome!
Just yesterday I used spinel tonic build, 4 gestures, crowbars, war horns and anything that gave crit chance and some attack speed. Very fun
That Mythrix fight was fire
Hey race, will we ever see you picking up an euology once in a while to freshen up the loot pool and play with some lunars? They may be broken, but for most of them the main problem (rather than the brokenness itself) is how easily accessible they are through the bazaar - which wouldn't be a problem if you allowed yourself to only use lunars found in the wild. Some of them allow for very cool builds and it's a shame never seeing them in action!
Although I prefer default M2, the alternate does actually benefit from attack speed increases which is pretty nice 😊 It makes Railrunner a little more of a proc survivor, and the scope also feels way better, except at long range. Ii makes Scythe and Instincts actually usable, although Scythe still sucks in Eclipse.
Great run, as ever!
Did race forget the res disc in vields?
Yeah, poor res disc :(
Backup mag gives you multiple shots per recharge on default railgun. Like 3 backup mags and you can delete anything on one scope-in
right but you lose out on the reload bonus on the first shot so there's less reward than expected with that which is why i dont like it that much
Still gives you some versatility. Lets you do something like obliterate a golem with the boosted shot and then use the next 2 on beetles or something@@RacesVideos
Sure but I’ll always scrap it for something else
I mean, there's a reason why most households and workplaces have medkits somewhere
No way new race video just dropped
Railgunner should have had a magazine that way backup mags could double your mag capacity
Man watching Race fight Mitchell is always so good
Never got the hate for resonance disc, sure it's not useful for Mithrix but it's satisfying to see it blow up some random mobs.
i like alt m2, the main reason being the fact that attack speed scaling messes with the reloads, so any temporary attack speed buffs can easily screw that up.
For the R, a big advantage to the cryo is that you can keep shooting arter using it, instead of having the recharge.
The default mobility bonus is just too good to pass up for the milk toast alternate.
Lastly, I quite enjoy picking up heresy primary on Railgunner. The reliable M2 means you dont have the issues with downtime many other charachters do, and also you can keep shooting the primary even ehile the R is recharging.
The timing window for the reload is the same as default as it is with attack speed, it just adds on an extra margin of error. If you reloaded after - for example - 1 sec with 0 attack speed you could still reload after 1 second with 30 attack speed items
11:01 yeah i agree feathers should just be removed from the game at this point
The only reason I ever use alt m2 on Railgunner is how ridiculous it looks and how surprisingly good it could be if you stack attack speed.
I always thought a cool way to make the alt M2 better would be to have it give ramping damage for consecutive crits. (and if it didn’t have zoom)
bros never missed a shot as he misses shots lmao
i think the alt m2 should make it so increased charges of the skill give it the ability to pierce, where each extra charge = an extra enemy that can be hit (1 backup mag = 2 enemies while 5 backup mags = 6 enemies)
lmao someone said it later in the video oppsie
Genuinely think frost relic is my favourite red for railgunner. The fov increase is so nice. Just watching this getting claustrophobic with his zoomed in you are while scoped.
Hard scoping with alt m2 kinda makes it worse I think.
the fact he has 5000 hours in the game but left me with the assumption that he hasn't written anything for the wiki physically hurts me
He replied on a different comment that he tried but it just got reverted and isn't going to fight a wiki war.
I mean alt mine is sorta a chrono if ya think about it but not too hard
Y'know, seeing how just Railgunner's alt M2 and Shift makes her absolutely horrendous to use just tells me a lot about how they are factually correct loadouts that are just more effective than their counterparts (with the glaring exception of MUL-T's alt primaries (saw, nailgun and bar, the last one sucks after the nerf it got))
I am open to using literally any skill, ability, and passive. I kinda find it entertaining with the alt m2 for railgunner just going rapid fire carbine, but it also requires a lot of focus and staying zoomed in to do. Which in this game, is not very smart. Regular m2 probably is viable just for the fact it forces you to zoom out and also actually does something with backup mags. Seriously, like backup mag should make the alt m2 take longer to fire, but fire in bursts instead. As in, say you have two mags, you fire three shots in quick succession, but it takes more time to fire those three shots. That way it actually does something, more burst damage instead of sustained dps.
Alt m2 with predatory instinct is all im gonna say
Alt m2 is just better for bosses since you can make use of the fact that this one can scale with attack speed
I finally beat my eclipse climb today, and yeah it's probably between engineer and captain for most difficult eclipse climb
I think 2 ways that could really help improve the Alternative Zoom shot
would be to have back up mags increase the damage of the shot (or more projectiles each 5 stacks of magazines)
AND
Because when your scoped, it shows targets through walls and terrain
Why not let it shoot THROUGH the terrain? Since it already doesnt do as much damage?
22:05 I'm losing my mind what track is this!?
Ngl, thought I was watching a fatmagic video for a second
Pulse mine for regular runs, polar field for simulacrum.
I use alternative M2 cus M1 mobility is just too fun and convenient to not build attack speed. The only situation I ever use default M2 is when i'm on multiplayer and there's like a captain or commando
Are you using mods in this game play?
I've never seen Umbral Mithrix, and this bossfight seems next level 😅
Base M2 might have higher potential for more micro-skillful players, but alt M2 forces you to learn gamesense to really use it to its full effectiveness as you mentioned at the end, which can be seen as it being weaker but J consider it far more meaningful and interesting a skill to develop and use than reloading in the middle of a chaotic game
I actually played RoR2 years ago and just didn't like commando so much I stopped playing entirely, I decided to hop back in, suck it up and suffer for a bit to unlock the cool stuff, but the Railgunner was sitting there, and she looks at me, and I look at her, and she looks at me, and I look at heeer, love at first run
I swear they made enemies jump just for it to annoy me on Railgunner
Wow a Race run with no recycler no gun no card and one singular scrapper
We can’t always be lucky
why dont u pick up items immediately? like the resonance disc u forgot
oh yeah we're breaking out the FF14 OST. the game is full of boss bangers.
You say the alt m2 is bad, but tell me that the moon wasn't satisfying
i wouldnt use the word bad. but i still prefer the other one for many many reasons
Damn I wish I could fucking play this
I wanna make a new profile in the game and redo the E8 climb
On the streak of bad builds, you gunna do blight next?
I actually like polar field.
im so confused why wiuldnt u not pick up wungus?
did u want the potential fungus scrap?
i have never seen a umbral mithrix... is that a mod?
I HEAR THAT FF14 OST
Why print PSGs?
Bleed runner.
bro's gatekeeping ror wiki
?
2:28
sheeeeeesh
this one's dps is higher tho
"If I'm still learning stuff at 5000 hours then someone at 400 still has things to learn" is crazy. Dude, you're not even considering how information becomes more available with the passing of time. You didn't learn anything for 4000 of those hours because nobody else knew anything either, simple as that. When other people learned something, they shared it, that's how you learned it. I have only 250 hours and I bet I know about as much as someone with 10 times my playtime. How much time you spend on something does not directly indicate your learning ability, if anything, it just shows that you specifically are a slow learner if you still find new things at 5000 hours. You can spend 10 hours playing the game, and also 100 hours learning about it from outside sources, or you can spend 100 hours playing the game and trying to learn on your own, and then learn 10 times as much in 10 times less time. Playtime alone does not indicate player level, it only indicates how much time you spent on actual, your own runs. It's definitely necessary for practice, but it's 100% not the whole picture.
the implication that you think people are unable to learn without everything presented to them in a manual says a lot more about you than it does me. where do you think new discoveries in this game constantly come from? god?
@@RacesVideos oh, didn't know this game had a *manual* from the developers that explains exactly how every little detail works. If you're talking about the wiki, that's managed by other players and can be inaccurate.
r/iamverysmart
Railgun is better than the Sniper
It's the truth
but all the other Primaries are better than the alts the chargeshot is debatable tho
blight acrid one time please ;-;
Naw he wrong about that 400hr thing just saying
16 days in a game you should know alot just saying I don't see a problem
Someone doesnt know what they don’t know
There's a few things you complain about in the wiki a lot. Why don't you just edit it yourself?
it's always edited back and im not gonna fight in a wiki war lol
@@RacesVideos Big oof, the site doesn't encourage people to tryna debate the previous editor at all, & doesn't have upvote system is how it goes I guess.
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