a brand not having a creative director sounds more appealing then one hiring another celebrity designer whose early collections will be harshly judged-and i feel like givenchy has put the spark of interest back into their brand so they could go directorless for at least a few years
Excellent topic Guys! Since Alia was mentioned in the conversation, don't forget that Azedine Alia himself gave the Fashion Industry the finger as he felt this mad rush to pop out collection after collection compromising the way design came to him in an organic way.
It’s really important to highlight these issues such as the toxic celebrity culture that is thrust down all our throats at every turn… these people have no real talent except their massive egos and bare faced bravado! 😖Good on you for highlighting the terrible fact of the 21st century, that the really talented design school graduates are being ignored, that has to be one of the factors at the root of the devolution of the fashion industry that and over production… Thought provoking as usual!💕💞💕
I think they gonna do 2 years of House Team creating the clothes, but with a secret leader to test the waters, because is easy to change the vision if they don't have someone who is the name of the vision, they can change the person more easily without having a major noise for a layout like Ludovic If the secret Creative director is having a good return they gonna bring it to the public, if not they gonna hire someone else
I think they are also making the prices outrageous because there is more and more people (who aren’t their target audience) being able to afford/buy their luxury clothing/accessories.
When you think of all the greats, Dior ,YSL, Givenchy etc, started really as dressmakers with real skill for the craft …versus the new wave of Creative Directors who seem to need to create runway drama on the back of that the business is in T-shirts and Hoodies…the only thing luxury about that is the price
"Not have a creative director but a team who make elegant clothing that women actually want to wear" I can't tell you how badly I want to wear this collection. I love fashion but wearability is often low. This collection combines that serious elegance, quality, wearability and desirabilty. It won't push fashion further but damn if I'd had the coin I'd spend it here.
the well-known designer should get the position as Creative Director at GIVENCHY are Zac Posen (now Creative Director at GAP) or Haider Ackermann (now Creative Director at CANADA GOOSE) that I don't understand that Posen & Ackermann are Creative Directors of fashion brands known at streetwear brands and the designers are couturiers and Posen or Ackermann aesthetics are fit for house codes at GIVENCHY
now Zac Posen is now the Creative Director for GAP and Haider Ackermann is now the Creative Director for CANADA GOOSE who's next BEBE hires Nensi Dojaka?.., NIKE hires Thebe Magugu?.. LULULEMON hires Rick Owens?..
The creative director position needs to be refined so the public will know what celebrity fashion directors are actually doing without the education and background that the JG and AM have and have had. I would never pay for poor quality and poor crafting of luxury brand collections coming from a design and artisan background.
A creative director is needed to man the ship. They can eventually promote 1-2 in the design team to creative director position. No need to hire a named designer.
@@FashionRoadman Thank you. I'd like to see you finish your thought there. You said too many good designers to mention. Do you know where you do mention them all? I only know the big ones Margiela, Owens, BBS, Raf, McQueen, CCP, MA+, Yohji, and Rei from CDG. the soloist. Walter van birkaenshtocken or whatever and Ann D. ,Julius and I'm kinda getting into Craig green. You seem very knowledgable
To be honest, there is an endless list of emerging & lesser known designers that are worth celebrating it would take a lifetime to compile their names into a singular list. What I can say though is over the course of my livestreams & videos I try my best to mention their names when I can. You seem to be in the right place though because brands like some of the ones you mentioned - Julius, Boris Bidjan Saberi, Thom Krom, CCP etc are not mainstream at all apart from within the menswear archive space.
The title is just to say "The design team can design a really good collection." Commercially, having no creative director will mean no buzz for a brand that comes with having a singular name to promote which would be hugely detrimental in the long run.
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a brand not having a creative director sounds more appealing then one hiring another celebrity designer whose early collections will be harshly judged-and i feel like givenchy has put the spark of interest back into their brand so they could go directorless for at least a few years
Excellent topic Guys! Since Alia was mentioned in the conversation, don't forget that Azedine Alia himself gave the Fashion Industry the finger as he felt this mad rush to pop out collection after collection compromising the way design came to him in an organic way.
I love when the work is about the craft. I miss elegant style. The way fashion can speak for you without saying a word.
It’s really important to highlight these issues such as the toxic celebrity culture that is thrust down all our throats at every turn… these people have no real talent except their massive egos and bare faced bravado! 😖Good on you for highlighting the terrible fact of the 21st century, that the really talented design school graduates are being ignored, that has to be one of the factors at the root of the devolution of the fashion industry that and over production… Thought provoking as usual!💕💞💕
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I think they gonna do 2 years of House Team creating the clothes, but with a secret leader to test the waters, because is easy to change the vision if they don't have someone who is the name of the vision, they can change the person more easily without having a major noise for a layout like Ludovic
If the secret Creative director is having a good return they gonna bring it to the public, if not they gonna hire someone else
I like the fact that they have a diverse range of models
loved the point you made at 11:40
I think they are also making the prices outrageous because there is more and more people (who aren’t their target audience) being able to afford/buy their luxury clothing/accessories.
Michael Cinco should be a role as Creative Director at GIVENCHY
When you think of all the greats, Dior ,YSL, Givenchy etc, started really as dressmakers with real skill for the craft …versus the new wave of Creative Directors who seem to need to create runway drama on the back of that the business is in T-shirts and Hoodies…the only thing luxury about that is the price
"Not have a creative director but a team who make elegant clothing that women actually want to wear"
I can't tell you how badly I want to wear this collection. I love fashion but wearability is often low. This collection combines that serious elegance, quality, wearability and desirabilty. It won't push fashion further but damn if I'd had the coin I'd spend it here.
the well-known designer should get the position as Creative Director at GIVENCHY are Zac Posen (now Creative Director at GAP) or Haider Ackermann (now Creative Director at CANADA GOOSE) that I don't understand that Posen & Ackermann are Creative Directors of fashion brands known at streetwear brands and the designers are couturiers and Posen or Ackermann aesthetics are fit for house codes at GIVENCHY
now Zac Posen is now the Creative Director for GAP and Haider Ackermann is now the Creative Director for CANADA GOOSE
who's next BEBE hires Nensi Dojaka?.., NIKE hires Thebe Magugu?.. LULULEMON hires Rick Owens?..
We must get back to artisanal crafting. We are losing the human connection and respect for what it takes to create and produce quality in general.
The creative director position needs to be refined so the public will know what celebrity fashion directors are actually doing without the education and background that the JG and AM have and have had. I would never pay for poor quality and poor crafting of luxury brand collections coming from a design and artisan background.
this brand now look like any other brand, very bland like "i've seen this seen that".
A creative director is needed to man the ship. They can eventually promote 1-2 in the design team to creative director position. No need to hire a named designer.
10:01 Can someone tell me what names he says here? I can't sound it out
Olivier Theyskens, Gareth Pugh
@@FashionRoadman Thank you. I'd like to see you finish your thought there. You said too many good designers to mention. Do you know where you do mention them all? I only know the big ones Margiela, Owens, BBS, Raf, McQueen, CCP, MA+, Yohji, and Rei from CDG. the soloist. Walter van birkaenshtocken or whatever and Ann D. ,Julius and I'm kinda getting into Craig green. You seem very knowledgable
To be honest, there is an endless list of emerging & lesser known designers that are worth celebrating it would take a lifetime to compile their names into a singular list. What I can say though is over the course of my livestreams & videos I try my best to mention their names when I can. You seem to be in the right place though because brands like some of the ones you mentioned - Julius, Boris Bidjan Saberi, Thom Krom, CCP etc are not mainstream at all apart from within the menswear archive space.
I agree with Leo about Dilara Finna copy you. 😄
Idk why but i never know what the appeal about this brand. 🤔🤔
This is not good idea. It is enabling companies to under pay and over work staff. Plus not getting the credit you deserve for your work.
Dilara is the personification of shallow and lacking depth. She is a consumer who is passionate about asthetics. But no original thought.
givenchy definitely needs a creative director lmao, any brand without one is literally doomed
The title is just to say "The design team can design a really good collection." Commercially, having no creative director will mean no buzz for a brand that comes with having a singular name to promote which would be hugely detrimental in the long run.