I stopped training to failure several months ago and more recently I finally stopped a pattern of over training I'd fallen into. Now my progress is picking up, my body actually feels good, and I feel like these training principals are giving me a more reliable buffer against injury.
I think you make a better point when arguing about training with weights and calisthenics. I was trying to reach a pull-up for almost 18 months without much success with just calisthenics (working most of the time to failure), but when I started implementing weights in training, progress came faster. The fact that you can do small increments to overload helps you keep track of progress and allows you to keep progressing. With calisthenics, a progression can be too hard and regression too easy...
Keep in mind that failure also require fewer sets per excercise (usually only 2) and a bit more of rest. Check Mike Mentzer's advise to get it right it works and is 100% applicable to calisthenics
This is something I have debated for a long time because I have always been a HIIT girl. Now I realise that that isn't always the best way to get more progression
I train to failure on every set and exercise, when failure is met, i do partials if possible or negative reps depends on the exercise i am doing. But i also just do about 2-3 sets depending on the exercise, one session a week all the way to failure and beyond, next session i do high volume with reps in reserv like reverse ladders and EMOM, with focus on form and mainly endurance with short rest. These high volume workouts usualy leave me more sore then training all the way to failure and beyond.
I've spoke with you on a Facebook calisthenics group before. I totally agree with you BTW ! I only started to get serious results from my training when i started taking my sets to complete failure. 2 to 3 sets max in one session and then my next push and pull session i do more volume like yourself, I find this helps me with recovery from the sessions where I go to complete failure
I think what you're both describing too is a real discipline in recovery. Often (especially with calisthenics) I see people doing too much - usually because they are trying to do every cali progression under the sun. if you guys are training to failure and seeing quality results then you guys are definitely recovering well and long may the gains continue 💪🏿 💪🏿 💪🏿 p.s. the time savings don't hurt either
@@baz9653 We have? for sure is possible, since i'm a member of a few. But i switched to gym training now, ofcourse i still do dips and pullups, got tired of training at home. Also only doing all my training weighted on rings and high volume really took a toll on my elbows and connective tissues. Also in gym, i can target certain ranges of motion. So after pullups i now do latpulldowns aswell but just half repping that end range motion, i'm super weak in the range for chest to bar pullups. chin over bar no issues, but if i wanna go higher im no where near the strength required. With just calisthenics that range is kinda hard to target unless using some kind of pulley system with counter weight to make me lighter. Also i've noticed i'm way more effecient with my time in the gym aswell, so workouts are about 30 mins shorter compared to at home with the same amount of exercises and sets. (less scrolling tiktok) Also have to option to do wide pullups, instead of just narrow ones. But i'm doing 6 days a week high intensity (kinda) i take an extra rest day if i feel like i need it, no volume work. So far no deloads needed, even while in an agressive deficit. Also started training legs again.
I used to train to failure all the time - how much time I wasted doing this! Now I train less but I'm so much stronger. I got my muscle up by taking away one whole training day per week and decreasing the intensity
Awesome information-packed video, but to be honest, I train because pushing myself is fun, so I'll skip out on the potential faster recovery and istead just go to full failure. To anyone reading this, don't forget the reason you exercise for in the first place. :D Thanks for the info, Andrew!
And that's the brilliance of it. It is clearly working for you so, you're 100% right to keep pushing 👊🏿 I'll say though that you must be recovering extremely well for it to continue to work, so send me your food and sleep plan 😅
I've started this type of training and I am not sure about the failure thing, I don't really know how to reach it or if I'm doing it. Well, keep training. Thanks.
It is difficult to get our heads around, but the whole idea of training to failure is that you train until you literally cannot do any more. It takes a lot of discipline though. Discipline in that you truly have to go until you can't do any more, and also discipline to make sure you recover well (so sleeping eating and not training etc.) Definitely worth a try but to truly compare it, we need to measure results quite closely which is why I think it may not be for most...
ik the video was on mechanical failure but since training to 1-2 reps left is optimal then would training to technical failure still be a good idea? Bc after a 10 sec break I can do exactly 1-2 more reps so idk
Good question, and as a general rule of thumb I would say 'yes'. ESPECIALLY for skill work where it is quality > everything else. Tech failure is a good target, instead of mech failure - but also make sure you're taking solid breaks between sets 👊🏿
Brother I've been following athlean xero for 3 weeks for now and the workout plan says to go failure in all exercises and all sets. Does the program say tecnical failure or muscular failure? I need your answer on which failure supports muscle growth
I'm not familiar with Athlete Xero but I personally wouldn't recommend consistently going to absolutely failure every set so perhaps try only going to technical failure. Let me know how it goes, Adithya! 👊🏿
@@CaliToTheCrowd but the best part of the program is that it has more than 150+ bodyweight exercises most of which I had never known and the way he's structured the program along with weekly challenges is amazing. I recommend you checking out
I stopped training to failure several months ago and more recently I finally stopped a pattern of over training I'd fallen into. Now my progress is picking up, my body actually feels good, and I feel like these training principals are giving me a more reliable buffer against injury.
Glad you managed to pick up out of that, man! All of this ultimately must make us feel (and actually be) better 💪🏿
I think you make a better point when arguing about training with weights and calisthenics. I was trying to reach a pull-up for almost 18 months without much success with just calisthenics (working most of the time to failure), but when I started implementing weights in training, progress came faster. The fact that you can do small increments to overload helps you keep track of progress and allows you to keep progressing. With calisthenics, a progression can be too hard and regression too easy...
Damn bro... you lift weights, do calisthenics, train with rings... are we related lol. Love the channel and subscribed
The lord of the rings himself!
Been a fan of your channel for the longest time so this means a lot man! 👊🏿
Keep in mind that failure also require fewer sets per excercise (usually only 2) and a bit more of rest. Check Mike Mentzer's advise to get it right it works and is 100% applicable to calisthenics
This is something I have debated for a long time because I have always been a HIIT girl. Now I realise that that isn't always the best way to get more progression
Many ways to skin a cat 😉
I dont give a fk about what scientist saying , i train calisthenics all day everyday
I train to failure on every set and exercise, when failure is met, i do partials if possible or negative reps depends on the exercise i am doing.
But i also just do about 2-3 sets depending on the exercise, one session a week all the way to failure and beyond, next session i do high volume with reps in reserv like reverse ladders and EMOM, with focus on form and mainly endurance with short rest.
These high volume workouts usualy leave me more sore then training all the way to failure and beyond.
I've spoke with you on a Facebook calisthenics group before. I totally agree with you BTW ! I only started to get serious results from my training when i started taking my sets to complete failure. 2 to 3 sets max in one session and then my next push and pull session i do more volume like yourself, I find this helps me with recovery from the sessions where I go to complete failure
I think what you're both describing too is a real discipline in recovery.
Often (especially with calisthenics) I see people doing too much - usually because they are trying to do every cali progression under the sun. if you guys are training to failure and seeing quality results then you guys are definitely recovering well and long may the gains continue 💪🏿 💪🏿 💪🏿
p.s. the time savings don't hurt either
@@baz9653 We have? for sure is possible, since i'm a member of a few.
But i switched to gym training now, ofcourse i still do dips and pullups, got tired of training at home.
Also only doing all my training weighted on rings and high volume really took a toll on my elbows and connective tissues.
Also in gym, i can target certain ranges of motion. So after pullups i now do latpulldowns aswell but just half repping that end range motion, i'm super weak in the range for chest to bar pullups. chin over bar no issues, but if i wanna go higher im no where near the strength required.
With just calisthenics that range is kinda hard to target unless using some kind of pulley system with counter weight to make me lighter.
Also i've noticed i'm way more effecient with my time in the gym aswell, so workouts are about 30 mins shorter compared to at home with the same amount of exercises and sets. (less scrolling tiktok)
Also have to option to do wide pullups, instead of just narrow ones.
But i'm doing 6 days a week high intensity (kinda) i take an extra rest day if i feel like i need it, no volume work.
So far no deloads needed, even while in an agressive deficit.
Also started training legs again.
I used to train to failure all the time - how much time I wasted doing this!
Now I train less but I'm so much stronger. I got my muscle up by taking away one whole training day per week and decreasing the intensity
Far more efficient if you're time conscious!
Do higher intensity and train to failure but take more rest days
Another great breakdown. Training to failure is not necessary, but for those who do it, more power to them
Cheers James
how you have so few subcribers is a madness!
Haha! I mean, I'm crazy happy with the ones we already have 😅
i find it easier to do weight lifting. its really hard to reach failure with calisthenics
Amazing video, bro!
Cheers Jaxon!
Awesome information-packed video, but to be honest, I train because pushing myself is fun, so I'll skip out on the potential faster recovery and istead just go to full failure. To anyone reading this, don't forget the reason you exercise for in the first place. :D Thanks for the info, Andrew!
And that's the brilliance of it. It is clearly working for you so, you're 100% right to keep pushing 👊🏿
I'll say though that you must be recovering extremely well for it to continue to work, so send me your food and sleep plan 😅
I've started this type of training and I am not sure about the failure thing, I don't really know how to reach it or if I'm doing it. Well, keep training. Thanks.
It is difficult to get our heads around, but the whole idea of training to failure is that you train until you literally cannot do any more. It takes a lot of discipline though. Discipline in that you truly have to go until you can't do any more, and also discipline to make sure you recover well (so sleeping eating and not training etc.)
Definitely worth a try but to truly compare it, we need to measure results quite closely which is why I think it may not be for most...
Gz 20k subs, Andrew!
Yessir!!! 🍾🍾🍾
This entire channel is completely GOATED
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ik the video was on mechanical failure but since training to 1-2 reps left is optimal then would training to technical failure still be a good idea? Bc after a 10 sec break I can do exactly 1-2 more reps so idk
Good question, and as a general rule of thumb I would say 'yes'. ESPECIALLY for skill work where it is quality > everything else.
Tech failure is a good target, instead of mech failure - but also make sure you're taking solid breaks between sets 👊🏿
Brother I've been following athlean xero for 3 weeks for now and the workout plan says to go failure in all exercises and all sets. Does the program say tecnical failure or muscular failure? I need your answer on which failure supports muscle growth
I'm not familiar with Athlete Xero but I personally wouldn't recommend consistently going to absolutely failure every set so perhaps try only going to technical failure.
Let me know how it goes, Adithya! 👊🏿
@@CaliToTheCrowd but the best part of the program is that it has more than 150+ bodyweight exercises most of which I had never known and the way he's structured the program along with weekly challenges is amazing. I recommend you checking out