E-Scooter with 100 km (62 mi) range? I tested it!
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The EMove Cruiser ($1,399 bit.ly/Emove-Cr... is a powerful electric scooter with a crazy range rating of 100 km (62 miles). I went on an epic long ride to test that claim and see if it was the truth or just a load of BS!
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holding these companies accountable for there specs is absolutely spot on. Love ya work man
Yeah but as of recent he shilled for under powered and under ranged Rad Runner plus.
Use battery capacity specs. I.e. 48V 22Ah yields 1.056kWh. Try the same with other pack capacities
My friend, you forgot the most important infos to support your test :
1- How much do you weigh ?
2- At what speed were you... scooting ?
3- What riding "controller mode" were you... driving ?
4- What was your tire air pressure ?
Next time you want to try this test, pump 5 more pound in your tires to see the difference.
agree that guy a sbou 65kg.. and riding american flat roads.. so yaaa try this in europe and you easily cut that to 35-50km.-.
@@nin1ten1do also add that it was a constant ride, no multiple braking and starting like normal use in a city ride. I weight 115 kg and I have a scooter with 10 mAh battery with a 350 kw motor. I can make in the city in winter time around 12 km with one charge.
@@AC-db4ek agree
@@AC-db4ek btw it’s 10ah and 350w
That 350kw gave me a good laugh tbh no hard feelings 😂
Not a lot of people do this kind of test on e-scotters. Thanks for that video!
Great video thanks.And thanks for adding metric for 99% of the rest of us
Hahahahahaha
96%, only 93% of internet users.
@@thokim84 "only"
Metric was invented during the french revolution only to be as against God as possible. Weird right? Don't believe me? Look it up.
actually the entire world uses pounds and miles. don’t let the liberal media fool you
Great endurance test ! I'd like to see more of these !
Cruiser is the king of range, if they have the dual motor, they will be the king of scooters imo. I have the cruiser and it goes 65 miles of range on 1 charge. I spread it across multiple usage. A lighter rider in their emove group reported 75 miles of range, that is crazy
At what battery level does the scooter start to lose acceleration?
Is there scooter like this with 2 Motors?
@@baconisgoodtoo amp wise on the gauge on the handle bars for keys( depends on battery usage life) 58.9 full, 42.1 empty, it loses bout 2-3 on 47-48, so half wayish, but i haven't gotten my battery below 25 yet, so at most 5 mile loss on 25-50% battery life if going full speed
I know it's been a while but I'm curious as to any issues you've had with this cruiser.
Thanks for doing this! Now, I feel more confident about the range of my new cruiser.
60 Miles is crazy for an electric scooter, thats awesome
It does not go 60 miles. Am in nyc. Only way it goes 60 miles is if u used the first gear which is the slowest speed 10-15 mph.. if you used it 2nd gear 15-18mph or 3rd gear 20-25mph it does not last 60 miles... i have a emove that's how i know. Am in NYC
You Already I feel like you’re from nyc, not sure tho
@@youalready1207 NYC has a lot of hills though. Hills eat up the battery something fierce. In MIcah's test you can see that there's a lot of flat ground.
I went 53 on speed 2
45 on speed 3
First range video I've watched. Good to know this company gave an honest mileage rating on their product. Great job as usual.
You deserve praise on your test. This is exactly the kind of test I've recommended to reviewers of electric vehicles for years...full throttle nonstop under a consistent load and grade. You were stopping, which I can understand, but these kinds of things do permit components to cool down which improves efficiency. I would have been satisfied to simply lift the drive wheel and set the throttle full and see how long and far until the wheel stopped turning. Thank you for your effort!
I love the wide deck, high handlebars and amazing specs. Thanks for proving the claims!
I’m a courier, and I do 100 miles routinely, so now you know how it feels with only 100 km, which is why I’m watching your channel to see which scooter would be the best to get around town with enough mileage and Torque for hills of San Francisco to use it for work!?
Definitely an e moped over a scooter if you are doing that much
Great vid - thanks for taking the time to conduct this range test. The fact that you were able to achieve and push past the 100km mark at the highest speed setting is a testament to how well this scooter is built. Emove appears to have gotten it right with the Cruiser.
Excellent video!
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100km at full throttle is actually very impressive. Most of the companies bill their max distance with a lot of caveats like optimum battery temperature and driven at a a pathetically slow speed.
He rode in gear 2 I think
Thanks for doing this range test. We would love to see this done on more long-range electric bikes, scooters, and motorcycles. How did you get home though?
Prob Uber
@@jorgearana9838 lol how is uber going to take him home WTF he probs got a taxi lmfao
That must be gruelling! Thanks for doing this test and much appreciated, man..
I have one, I love it, and it runs LONG!!
And fast.
You can adjust your feet position at times and
it helps limber up.
You don’t realize how u put yourself in brace mode which gets tiring over time.
That scooters legitskis!!
Thanks voro!!
You dont have problem with loose screws after drives?
According to the website the battery is 1.5 kWh, (52v 30ah), no wonder it can do 100km. This thing must be heavy though. An e-bike with such a large battery would go 150km with very light pedaling.
dna2087 25 kg which is about slightly above average
This what I want in a scooter. The mileage mainly. 20+ mph speed is a bonus but long as it goes 15 mph I’m still satisfied
You will get 50miles guarantee at 15-20mph on this scooter, as long as you are under 170lbs 🙌🏿
Impressive that you could match the claimed range by riding near continuously at full throttle!
In comparison, electric unicycles manufacturers often claim completely bogus ranges at unrealistic low speeds that can't even be replicated in tests.
So, really good on this PEV manufacturer, it can't be faulted here.
It got to over 60 miles because the scooter wss tested in Miami that's what I could see, you dont have any hills there, just flat roads. If it were tested in San Francisco I guess that the rangw would be half of that.
Lol love the streets where you are
Super smooth and the houses has bigger garages than the house itself, amazing.
I have the Emove Cruiser, so I greatly appreciate your efforts :-)
How does your emove handle going up hills
manolodavescribtv ~ I wish I could tell you. That piece of trash never worked properly. It’s currently sitting in a corner gathering dust.😡
NoProGoPronto why
BSMTV RAIDS ~ I bought a refurbished Emove Cruiser directly from the company to save a few hundred dollars, and it was trash right out the box. It’s never worked right. Screws keep falling out, and there is this weird ticking sound in the front wheel area that no one can figure out. They won’t take it back because I bought it used. Add a few hundred dollars and buy a better scooter from another company.
@@NoProGoPronto I had a clicking/ticking sound coming from the front. But it was under the deck where the sound was really coming from. Open up your deck and check for anything loose . That screw under the folding mech is gonna be a pain in the ass to remove I had to remove the whole locking mech and stem to access that screw.
That range is insane! Thanks for the test Mikah!
This is true!!! I own the Emove Cruiser and the battery life is amazing!!!
how is it with hills? do you lose alot of range?
I was expecting 80km range, did not expect to make it past 100 - that is amazing and maybe with added battery, who knows how much it could do?
*I bought a HyperpowerSports scooter from a vendor in Florida. It's a 1600 Watt motor that's based on the Uberscoot and Evo series platform. The controller burned out and took over a year to figure out how to fix it. The vendor does not offer customer support but will take your money for parts. I replaced the 48 Volt SLA battery with a 60 Volt lithium ion.It's lighter and more powerful than the SLA. I don't what the range is but guessing about 50 to 75 miles per charge.*
Do a video about the Emove Touring range some time in the future! If the performace of its bigger brother is this fantastic, the touring should have similar results and I can actually afford the Touring.
They use different batteries, Although the top speed is the same the ranges are drastically different, The Touring gets according to Voromotors 40 KM/25 Miles.
@@Spursrule1969 They both have new 2020 LG batterys but the touring is just much smaller
@@Pintexx
Yes the same brand but completely different specs, Cruiser is 52V 30AH LG, Touring 48V 13AH LG, So the AH are the issue, The Cruiser has 30, the Touring only 13, That means the Cruiser has 2.3 times the AH the Touring has, Which is why it can do 2.5 times the range.
great video. thanks for taking the time to make it. 4years later, how is the scooter holding up these days?
Man, you make a believer out of me. Action does speak louder. 60 mph of range. Far more better than 14 mile range that I got now. And not only that, you cut the time that charging the batteries from empty to full. Thesr guys done it. I can really xplore some more now. I'm gonna have to order that and sell my other one.
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Curious to know what the built in “optimistic” odometer gave you for the 104 km trip?
And yeah, that looked tiring, thanks for doing it for your subscribers.
Also, as far as range go, would you get a higher range if you did it that way (I’m assuming you did the test continuously), or had breaks in between like every 20 km or so?
I believe it was about 115-120 km, but I pretty much ignored it and looked only at my phone GPS after seeing early on that it read higher than the GPS-verified data.
@@Electrek Another load of BS marketing data to upsell the Emove Cruiser.
Speed is the most important factor which influences range BUT in here we only talk about GPS data, breaks, being tired, FAKE odometer and FAKE range data!
I'm amazed (but not anymore) that an "expert" in building battery packages isn't able by just reading specification to get a close estimate of what would be the max range.
1600W peak motor power, 52V and 30AH battery, +110Kg average weight including rider, some uphills, starts and stops.
Are you good in math or are you just good in upselling marketing BS and getting a free scooter?
@@billadmond9450 Seems like he's very good at math, but applied to $$$. Your approach would be to make a one-line remark in a forum, which I won't believe, while his approach shows that it's feasible in the real world.
Could it be done 'by doing the calculations/measurements'? Sure. Fun? Hardly.
@@grandbuba There are already too many stupid fanbois like you on the troll bandwagon that I won't spend time with numbers and data.
You're just too stupid and uneducated that you can't even troll the proper way.
@@Electrek people pay a lot of money for bodyboard vibration board including it is sad pro athletes and certainly University teams use those machines. It's been over a year since I've chimed in about how the scooters seem to produce a similar experience. That is not only is it tiring but it's a low injury workout? Since you know what it's like the next day you could volunteer some information about whether or not you build some muscle did some toning and although it would just be speculation what if you are doing this daily or every other day? Most scooters are reviewed for their suspensions not for the healthy vibrations that do get to the body. Since many people ride for sport for leisure and not for transportation I have yet to see a scooter that was designed to take advantage of the science of the kind of vibrations and distance Etc the Board needs to be moving in. Now scooter deck isn't as wide as these machines that you will find at a health club or pay thousands of dollars for and most paths are not as conducive to various yoga positions etcetera of the calisthenics sort that are in Turbo because of the vibration but there are various writing positions that you could incorporated into the design of scooter so my money is that for Christmas there is going to be a squirtle squirt are for the girls LOL I did say scooter that gets marketed by before and after pictures of the butts just like other exercise equipment does. I nominate this one if you want to get a bite but can't get yourself out there without calling an Uber before you broke a sweat I guarantee that if you ride with a friend and you both leave your phones behind heading out to a really nice destination remembering to bring your masks but no money or plastic you will get what you seek.
It is a different Market than micro Mobility has pursued before. Let the entrepreneurs commence to dominate it! unless I'm ignorant anybody who pursues it aggressively will have the first crack. The scooter deck is a stage and It prepares you to be up on the podium if that's what you seek the lean muscular physique. please note that although surfboarding requires Talent and definitely is a sport muscles respond to vibration because it torques them and swimming is more cardiovascular t h a n toning and that your foot wear will matter so don't wear Z coils if the goal is not to be sore in your muscles not your joints. the impacts are not the sort that destroy the the joints they are continuous and small and frequent many many more than walking or running and yes if you have a huge parking lot all to yourself you can do handstands etcetera on a scooter to work out your upper body as well but don't blame me if you get injured or kill somebody and please advise your loved ones it's not my fault I did say empty parking lot and obviously not while you're beginner or prior to this possibility being confirmed.
Thank you for an extremely useful video. I was leaning towards purchasing the emove cruiser, but this video cinched it. I think I’ll also purchase the seat add on for my long (45 minute) rides. Thanks again.
Am sure if I went 40 kmh max all the way, I wouldn't get more than 60km....but that's still great, tho !
actually, with the highest speed mode it only goes a couple miles less
@@rutries6989 Wrong ! I get 40% less, dude.
Anyone else wondering how he got back home
I suspect he did 30 miles in one direction and 30 miles back. At least that is what I would do.
i was.
Uber
I heard he was still walking back home till this day
Uber
Good informative video. I will order one.
Out of left field with this point.
I would love to aee a detachable battery like those ebikes. It is a deal breaker for me.
Instead of lugging the bike/scooter out of your car, you can charge the detachable battery at home/hotel.
At a pizza place or a coffee shop or a library, they don't mind you bringing in a battery instead of a scooter.
Happy trails.
Unbelievable, my Maike 42Ah 67v can make only around 60-70 km when fully charged with me 220 lbs. How is it possible that 30Ah can ride further than 42Ah with even higher voltage onboard?
He tricked us.
He used 2 Scooters.
THAN and only THAN this range ist accurate.
Looks like a very good scooter too buy.
@Jin p looool i like jin p
Im gettin da xiaomi m365
Great video, thanks for enduring that. Any chance you'll be doing a review of this scooters little brother Emove Touring?
You’re in luck, I already did that one. Search our channel and you’ll find it.
Do you find scooters more or less comfy on long distance trips like this compared to an e bike? Do you prefer sore feet or sore bottom?
Great question. Hope it gets answered
A comfortable seat so my bottom isn't sore, plus you stand on the pegs occasionally.
Get a scooter that comes with a seat. And a scooter with a suspension. And a large battery option. 3200w scooter with 30 Ah battery at medium speed should get you 40 miles if not better. And you will be comfortable...
Please answer this question for us @electrek
Personally I prefer bikes for long trips. However, I find that my neck can get pretty tired from holding my head and helmet up after about 2-3 hours pedaling a bike, so it’s something of a trade off. Just depends which part of your body you want hurting! 😀
I’ve been looking for an extreme long range scooter, and thanks to you, I found it. Great video,
Thanks for posting it!
What happens when you let off the trigger while moving? Does the scooter immediately start slowing itself down (the "generator effect") or will it coast like a freewheeling bicycle?
I’m really trying to decide if I should get this. I love how much range it has but the speed is a little bit low. I would pay $1000 more for a version that could go an extra 10km/h.
Glad to know these push further than advertised! I think they def got some customers won with your vid thanks for the content!
You shouldn't ride on low battery
I saw another range test at the slowest speed and it didn’t even clock 60 miles
Maybe regretting not getting the orange. Ordered black. Will see how I like it.
Best review! This is the kind of review that i want. Keep it up❤️
Just bought an Emove from Voro Motors for my favorite gal, a couple months ago. Love it. Getting one, for myself, soon.
It looks like the kugoo m4/pro but in Orange. A lot of these escooters are basically the same but different names/colours lol
Agree. Mine is called "GoWheels" but looks exactly the same...
Its original name is "Speedway IV pro" - www.minimotors.co.kr/shop/goods/goods_view.php?goodsno=1881&category=066 -
Rider weight factors into it as well as not climbing hills as you said, so you should have stated your weight or "I'm about 75 kilo" or whatever so people can guage wether the scooter will suit them. a 120kg rider is not going to get the same range as a 75 kilo rider. I get my Cruiser this week - cant wait - ordered the white one. I expect 80-90 kilometer range as I have hills to deal with and am 73 kilo so on the lighter side, but 80 kilos loaded up with laptop and camera gear.
One for the Gipper! You can do it! 2hr 46min was it? Piece of cake...I could do that in 1/2 the time...easy!
Thank you for this! Are you in mode 1, 2 or 3?
At the beginning of his video he said he would be pushing it as fast as it could go so I would assume it would be three
@@joemoe05 Mode 3 would may not make it 60 miles. It may be 40-50 miles
He was in mode 3 flat road no weight mentioned which is a huge factor along with hill climbing.
Thanks for the accurate data and all the numbers and variations of speed and time really gives you a perspective of what it's able to handle, btw how much so you weight?
I just bought amove crusier after returning a new apollo air 2023 wich apollo only gave me max 15 miles on full charge and its rated 43 miles . Battery and speed begin to drop after 5 miles , i should have gotten emove sooner
I would have stopped for a coffee and a breakfast sandwich or doughnut. LOL
you may get longer range if you do not drive max speed but 20-25kmt, max range is mesured on lower speeds and single motor and eco mode on
I had a scooter that was suppose to do 10-20km. It made 2 on flat ground at best 😂
What is the top speed? The website is so vague that it actually doesn't tell you, the most it says is 0-15mph in a few seconds, but isn't clarifying whether 15 is the limit (which if it is, is bad)
Is he going full speed??
I just recived my
Emove Cruiser a week
Ago put on 135 miles
Already.
Thanks.
Enjoyed the video, as an Emove Cruiser owner, but you're in the US. We do miles not kilometers.
Never ever u got this range at FULL throttle!! 28 km/h with gps ~63km!!
This is with the new Emove Cruiser? Not the old one right?
with ANYONE
Wow, I have done 2 hours before and felt like death on a dueltron ultra.
Way to go...
Brilliant video 😎
When you say full throttle
does that mean it was on
speed 3 🤔
I usually ride 35km
at 30kph, never ridden further on a scooter
Much easier on a bike
Especially Fiido L3 😎
Impressive endurance for both you and the scooter. Think you'll have the ability or desire to keep doing these range tests on the eBikes as well? I.e. full throttle or pedal assist runs. Might help everyone with good baseline comparisons.
Yea this seemed to get a bigger reception than I anticipated. If there’s interest I can do this sort of thing on e-bikes too.
Micah, just one thing I must've missed : What's your weight ? I weigh 185 lbs. For sure if I weighed 20 lbs less, it would probably increase the speed and extend the range even more.
EXACTLY what I was wondering. Height and weight would make a big difference in distance.
A few things. Firstly I want to thank you for the honest idea to test the true range.
if any of my questions are in your description already, don't bother answering them because I did not look at your description firsthand.
What was your cruising speed and rider weight? Were you matching the company's testing criteria? Hills? Ambient temps? Tire pressures?
So I have the Ninebot Max scooter which claims a 40.5mile range. I don't know what weight rider they used to get that number but I do know they said at around 72°f in optimal riding conditions with a cruising speed of 8-9mph.
With a 197lb rider weight, 39psi in both front and rear tires, 7.1mph cruising speed, I was ranging out around 43.9-44.1miles with 9% battery left on a route that had no more then a 18ft elevation change with ambient temps starting at 64°f to 83°f.
Maybe try a cruising speed of 8mph and see how much more range you'll get. On the same route with my Max on normal mode I got the same range for as long as I kept the same cruising speed like I did in eco mode at 7mph (cruise control on). My comment is getting to be too long
Basically I'd like to see you try this range test within the testing limits the company used. If it's too long of a ride, let's link up and I'll do it. You can be my chase vehicle lol. I honestly think it can get at least 75miles. You'd just have to ride it super slow. And I'm all about that. I am a long range freak. I even get better range with my personal cars then the manufacturers claims. I'll be uploading a video of my Segway's and the ranges I've gotten probably this weekend. They seem to be much more accurate then the machine you rode in this video but yea. I live in Kansas. If you aren't too far, we can give this a go
Does anyone know the name of that app he’s using for the speed and kilometer
Nice test! You even had the light on in the dark, so removing that drain would likely have achieved 110km, or 100km actual, with the speedo error. Thanks for the effort.
do you remember how fast you where going for most of the time? thanks
Hey.
Nice real test thanks for the info.
What app are you using for the time/range?
Can you tell me what you think of the suspension? My suspension on the Turbowheel Swift is not so good, its better than not having any though...
5:44 Your scooter is losing power
Hello is it still problem with loose screws after drivings??
I read some problems with that.
Nice to see a manufacturer not stretching the truth. 63 miles is a long way on a scooter, any scooter.
I wish I bought that instead of the Apollo explore .... Disk rotors keep warping I don't get it .... And other small quality concerns
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Good to know about this test.thanks. but why one video says the actual range is 32 miles.thanks.
I'm more curious as to how you don't have that much wind noise when you are talking while riding? Lav mic hooked to the gopro and under your shirt with some kind of wind muff? And I assume also some filtering in post?
Just a dead cat over a lav mic, dangling in front of my shirt since the clip broke months ago, lol
Great video Micha. Bought the Cruiser! Can you tell me what helmet you're wearing and also how you rigged the camera? Thanks!
Walking back home 100 km - pretty harsh mission.
Am I the only one noticing this wizard of oZ camera bs. The shadows at the 1 minute mark show a stick but no stick in frames
Was the tires at max inflation? Thatmay partially account for the "optimistic" speed and distance traveled.
I have the 2023 S version, the range is ridiculously good lol … I am 6”3 190lbs and I top out at 25-28mph which plenty enough ! Planning on doing a complete range test soon
Was looking at the varla eagle one or the wolf warrior x which are around this price but I would much prefer the eagle and wolf both get 40mph but get like 20-25 mi range I would much more prefer 25-30 mph for 50 some odd miles but at that distance I definitely plan on getting the seat with it what speeds were you going at?
Wow ,thats insane ,i get less than 20 miles on my Kaboo Mantis, about 18 miles at 30 + mph
As Someone asked in the comment, I would like to know which is more comfortable. Riding this long on an Ebike vs Riding on a scooter.
what about riding this long on an ebike vs riding seated on a scooter?
David Amuneke which do you find more comfortable sitting or standing?
@@chefgav1 I could do both for an hour or more. But, I don't know how it translates to scooting or riding an Ebike.
ebike is more smooth cause bigger wheels, my area have bad road and cracks so you will feel that bump every time if you scooter with 10 inch wheels, but it feels great to stand and ride, as for scooter with seats, i still recommend ebikes cause you can pedal, and move your leg muscles around, you will get sore sitting and not moving for hours
How do u stop it can u do a video how to stop it bc I dont know how please Ur so kind
wow that's amazing definitely worth the price what a great scooter
its a rebranded scooter. can get hte same for $900 if u buy it straight from the manufacturer.
@@imainsupport6116 elaborate? Provide links, sources? I really doubt that’s true as the price point is already much better than other scooters for the range
Yh it's good on flat road but I ain't seeing no hill climbing with those scooters to prove they are absolutely incredible
Thank you for doing this!!!!
I have only one question, because I am getting that scooter soon, what speed were you maintaining during your 103 kilometer trip?
At 2:15 of the video (30 minutes riding) he shows the display with avg speed of 37.79 (I assume kmh) which is nearly 23.5 mph. At 3:49 (after 2 hours 11 min riding, 80 kilometers) the display shows avg speed of 36.82 (22.8). Finally (at 4:41) after hitting 100 kilometers the display shows 36.06(?) (22.4) which is still phenomenal!
keep in mind the speedometer might be overstated
@@robertkribs9513 that's why I asked him just to make sure that it is 22mph plus for that distance.
Robert nailed it. And the built-in speedometer/odometer on the scooter isn’t totally accurate but the large screen you see is my phone GPS which is accurate.
Wow, thanks for the range test. You are awesome
Can anyone confirm that mileage
loved your fair/unbiased review
what was the average speed mph during your trip?
At 4:53 into the video, his display has 100 km/2.75 hrs (2:44:something) so that's 36.36 km/hr. or 22.59 mi/hr. impressive!
Hi! Cool video! May I ask where your camera is mounted?
47 Miles is already very good. Thinking if getting one
Great test!
What's a good smartphone app for odometer and mph/km. I am suspicious my promoter is way off. But the speedometer seems very accurate.
What's the weight of the rider in this test thanks.