China & Human rights: Does Australia have the right to tell another country what to do? | Q+A

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

Комментарии • 52

  • @greghunter5703
    @greghunter5703 Месяц назад +23

    What about the human rights for people in Australia living in the streets

  • @patricklim4592
    @patricklim4592 Месяц назад +10

    Let’s take HK for instance, the police did not take true actions during the riot until it really gone out of hand. In the West, it would be more harsh by the authorities!!!

  • @joelgough4638
    @joelgough4638 Месяц назад +23

    That was my man Steve from Australian Survivor.
    Also it's a bit rich lecturing China while not taking any action at all on Israel

    • @lowkeyconvert8971
      @lowkeyconvert8971 Месяц назад +1

      i've heard lots of people in china say people are free. that includes foreigners.

  • @Wacko2-wrx
    @Wacko2-wrx Месяц назад +29

    We in the West can and have lectured non Western countries for decades about their humanitarian issues but heaven forbid if they tell us to look at our own human rights history it’s unforgivable. Australia decimated the original inhabitants of Australia and continue to do so as incarceration rates of aboriginals show. Our participation in wars around the world with America not because we were being attacked but for ideological or economic reasons where millions of these countries citizen have been killed gives us no justification to lecture anyone about human rights.

    • @user-bg6qr9mh3i
      @user-bg6qr9mh3i Месяц назад +3

      It’s almost like the present is more important or something. Re incarceration do you think the govt is just arresting aboriginals and putting them in prison for nothing? Seriously?

    • @Simon-nv5zj
      @Simon-nv5zj Месяц назад

      How are we still decimating Aboriginals? Pretty sure people being incarcerated are for pretty good reasons? Are you going to blame the white man for record numbers of child abuse and sexual abuse in the aboriginal communities?

    • @Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420
      @Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420 Месяц назад +1

      It's all important or you don't want to understand reality. Which you demonstrably don't.
      Not anybody else's fault.
      And yes, arbitrary incarceration of indigenous people is rife in Australia. There are literally public forums where cops discuss this freely available to peruse at your leisure. There are public libraries. It's all public record. And all of that does indeed make us look like hypocrites. It's also why so many yt south Africans emigrated here after the end of apartness, because we resemble that more closely than anything else. You could just take the time to read outside of your biases or you could stay how you are. But I've no reason to take you seriously while you insist on your myopic ahistorical view@@user-bg6qr9mh3i

    • @corismix2595
      @corismix2595 Месяц назад +2

      The issue is the CCP tells us to look at our own human rights history because they're trying to deflect, not because of their concern about human rights. I mean just take a look at what's been happening in to the Uyghur's in Xinjiang the past few years. Both countries have issues that doesn't mean they balance each other out, that's just whataboutism

    • @dweller6065
      @dweller6065 Месяц назад

      "Our participation in wars around the world with America not because we were being attacked but for ideological or economic reasons" ....so you would include Australian military aid to Ukraine as further continuation of this?

  • @BodohYono
    @BodohYono Месяц назад +14

    Until 1960, aussie gov consider or classify aboriginal as sub-human or fauna.

  • @glumour3081
    @glumour3081 Месяц назад +6

    Human Rights Paradigm :
    Western : 15 -20 dollar/hour,,
    China : 7-12 US dollar/hour,,
    Western : it's called forced labor
    China : we still have savings from all living expenses (food, accommodation, etc.)
    GDP PPP 😢😢😮😮

  • @latiendaca1773
    @latiendaca1773 Месяц назад +12

    @2:55; …”magical place, Cantonese and British administration”…
    Jason sounded like an “Uncle Tom” or a lap dog to the max.

    • @dweller6065
      @dweller6065 Месяц назад

      Not really. Have you ever visited or stayed in HK prior to 2019? What is under-reported is that one quarter of HK's population came onto the streets, during a typhoon, to protest the CCP's illegal takeover of HK. They did not want to be taken over by the CCP. Who would? Judging by your cynical comment can I presume their views don't count either?

    • @jackhughes9896
      @jackhughes9896 Месяц назад

      And you sound like a racist.

    • @latiendaca1773
      @latiendaca1773 Месяц назад

      @dweller;
      I was exposing the Jason guy as a colonizer offspring and a English reminiscing about those occupying days.
      Thousands of years, Hongkonger lived there, spoke Hakka or chaozhou. Rich Cantonese has only colonized it for about ~200 years, and “forced” Cantonese upon locals.
      Even so, they saw themselves as Chinese, not a foreign white devils forcing English “rules based” (sirs to whites) view upon the locality.
      And whole Hongkong protested against English colonists up to as late as the 1970’s. Of course, they were met with English clubs, guns and arrests without trials.
      Again these are Chinese protests against white devils, and their “uncle toms” and lap dogs. And met with deaths by the uncle toms, lap dogs and white devils.
      The protests you mentioned were by British educated English passport men and supported by my government through Falungong/Steve Bannon.
      And so, are you a lap dog, or my Chinese friend’s term “walking dog”???

    • @Western_Decline
      @Western_Decline Месяц назад +4

      @@dweller6065 again, who are we to tell them what to do? West isn't even allowed to protest against genocid3 in Gaza.

    • @eddychan2112
      @eddychan2112 Месяц назад

      @@dweller6065 I was born and grew up in HK. I had seen how much freedom (none) Hong Kong people had regarding to HK politics and how corrupted the Hong Kong ROYAL POLICE were under the British rule. Compare British's takeover of HK after the opium war and the return of HK to China in 1997, which is more illegal?

  • @jasonl3254
    @jasonl3254 Месяц назад +5

    Australians only care about Australians. They don’t care about people in some far off land. So no, I don’t think Australia cares deeply about human rights. It’s all talk. Show you care by giving out money to people and governments all around the world, without the politics, in furtherance of human rights.

  • @garethl738
    @garethl738 Месяц назад +3

    Australia needs to balance its values and its national interests.
    So be true to ourselves and continue to raise issues - behind closed doors - but pls don’t be a hero, shouting at them through megaphone diplomacy (like that previous bunch led by the twin idiots Marise Payne and ScoMo), having zero effect in upholding our values while jeopardising our national interests.

  • @Say_Fun_P
    @Say_Fun_P Месяц назад +7

    Shame on these people talking non sense. Double standard and pretentious.

  • @Western_Decline
    @Western_Decline Месяц назад +4

    "Consistent", except when Palestine

  • @pbfamous07
    @pbfamous07 Месяц назад +3

    during trump i really hope australia goes back to a friendly based relationship with China. US/China is the only global war that will occur. and we need to reach for global peace. however difficult.

  • @Western_Decline
    @Western_Decline Месяц назад +2

    Jason: "British colonialism of Hong Kong was so magical. I'm a western dog."

  • @AlphGen
    @AlphGen Месяц назад +4

    Just listen to every pro hamas supporter in Australia and you know about trying to interfere in others

  • @winkus8586
    @winkus8586 Месяц назад +2

    Iraq, syria, lybia, Afghanistan, Palestine, and some other in africa and latin america. In autralia and new Zealand as well

  • @seangaun
    @seangaun Месяц назад +7

    Australia another lapdog of 🇺🇸

  • @gbbbgg4070
    @gbbbgg4070 Месяц назад +6

    Solve ur own problems

  • @dweller6065
    @dweller6065 Месяц назад

    ​@eddychan2112 The major concern was the CCP engaging in extra judicial abduction of HK individuals across the border. The frequency of abductions increased in the 2017, 18 period, included book sellers, businessmen on the wrong end of deals. Actions outside of the scope of HK treaty. The situation really blew up when the CCP took direct control of HK police and backed white clad gangs to bear up protesters travelling on the metro. HK civil affairs were to remain in the capable hands of HK administrators until 2047. One country, 2 systems became 1 country, 1 system. Anyhow, what the CCP did after 2047 was its business.

  • @kamchan9934
    @kamchan9934 Месяц назад

    Despite its ostensible position as an international human rights champion, the United States has failed to ratify crucial human rights documents, such as the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD). Should we "lecture" the US on human rights?

  • @barrysmith8078
    @barrysmith8078 Месяц назад

    no we have no right to tell any other sovereign country what to do but we reserve the right to refuse to trade with them. we send over 85% of our natural gas overseas for example, perhaps we should look into that

  • @erictio8600
    @erictio8600 Месяц назад +1

    Sickening debate...😅😅

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    @bayernvoeller Месяц назад

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  • @oasis042
    @oasis042 Месяц назад

    I think this episode was sponsored by china lol 😂