Let’s take HK for instance, the police did not take true actions during the riot until it really gone out of hand. In the West, it would be more harsh by the authorities!!!
We in the West can and have lectured non Western countries for decades about their humanitarian issues but heaven forbid if they tell us to look at our own human rights history it’s unforgivable. Australia decimated the original inhabitants of Australia and continue to do so as incarceration rates of aboriginals show. Our participation in wars around the world with America not because we were being attacked but for ideological or economic reasons where millions of these countries citizen have been killed gives us no justification to lecture anyone about human rights.
It’s almost like the present is more important or something. Re incarceration do you think the govt is just arresting aboriginals and putting them in prison for nothing? Seriously?
How are we still decimating Aboriginals? Pretty sure people being incarcerated are for pretty good reasons? Are you going to blame the white man for record numbers of child abuse and sexual abuse in the aboriginal communities?
It's all important or you don't want to understand reality. Which you demonstrably don't. Not anybody else's fault. And yes, arbitrary incarceration of indigenous people is rife in Australia. There are literally public forums where cops discuss this freely available to peruse at your leisure. There are public libraries. It's all public record. And all of that does indeed make us look like hypocrites. It's also why so many yt south Africans emigrated here after the end of apartness, because we resemble that more closely than anything else. You could just take the time to read outside of your biases or you could stay how you are. But I've no reason to take you seriously while you insist on your myopic ahistorical view@@user-bg6qr9mh3i
The issue is the CCP tells us to look at our own human rights history because they're trying to deflect, not because of their concern about human rights. I mean just take a look at what's been happening in to the Uyghur's in Xinjiang the past few years. Both countries have issues that doesn't mean they balance each other out, that's just whataboutism
"Our participation in wars around the world with America not because we were being attacked but for ideological or economic reasons" ....so you would include Australian military aid to Ukraine as further continuation of this?
Human Rights Paradigm : Western : 15 -20 dollar/hour,, China : 7-12 US dollar/hour,, Western : it's called forced labor China : we still have savings from all living expenses (food, accommodation, etc.) GDP PPP 😢😢😮😮
Not really. Have you ever visited or stayed in HK prior to 2019? What is under-reported is that one quarter of HK's population came onto the streets, during a typhoon, to protest the CCP's illegal takeover of HK. They did not want to be taken over by the CCP. Who would? Judging by your cynical comment can I presume their views don't count either?
@dweller; I was exposing the Jason guy as a colonizer offspring and a English reminiscing about those occupying days. Thousands of years, Hongkonger lived there, spoke Hakka or chaozhou. Rich Cantonese has only colonized it for about ~200 years, and “forced” Cantonese upon locals. Even so, they saw themselves as Chinese, not a foreign white devils forcing English “rules based” (sirs to whites) view upon the locality. And whole Hongkong protested against English colonists up to as late as the 1970’s. Of course, they were met with English clubs, guns and arrests without trials. Again these are Chinese protests against white devils, and their “uncle toms” and lap dogs. And met with deaths by the uncle toms, lap dogs and white devils. The protests you mentioned were by British educated English passport men and supported by my government through Falungong/Steve Bannon. And so, are you a lap dog, or my Chinese friend’s term “walking dog”???
@@dweller6065 I was born and grew up in HK. I had seen how much freedom (none) Hong Kong people had regarding to HK politics and how corrupted the Hong Kong ROYAL POLICE were under the British rule. Compare British's takeover of HK after the opium war and the return of HK to China in 1997, which is more illegal?
Australians only care about Australians. They don’t care about people in some far off land. So no, I don’t think Australia cares deeply about human rights. It’s all talk. Show you care by giving out money to people and governments all around the world, without the politics, in furtherance of human rights.
Australia needs to balance its values and its national interests. So be true to ourselves and continue to raise issues - behind closed doors - but pls don’t be a hero, shouting at them through megaphone diplomacy (like that previous bunch led by the twin idiots Marise Payne and ScoMo), having zero effect in upholding our values while jeopardising our national interests.
during trump i really hope australia goes back to a friendly based relationship with China. US/China is the only global war that will occur. and we need to reach for global peace. however difficult.
@eddychan2112 The major concern was the CCP engaging in extra judicial abduction of HK individuals across the border. The frequency of abductions increased in the 2017, 18 period, included book sellers, businessmen on the wrong end of deals. Actions outside of the scope of HK treaty. The situation really blew up when the CCP took direct control of HK police and backed white clad gangs to bear up protesters travelling on the metro. HK civil affairs were to remain in the capable hands of HK administrators until 2047. One country, 2 systems became 1 country, 1 system. Anyhow, what the CCP did after 2047 was its business.
Despite its ostensible position as an international human rights champion, the United States has failed to ratify crucial human rights documents, such as the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD). Should we "lecture" the US on human rights?
no we have no right to tell any other sovereign country what to do but we reserve the right to refuse to trade with them. we send over 85% of our natural gas overseas for example, perhaps we should look into that
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What about the human rights for people in Australia living in the streets
Let’s take HK for instance, the police did not take true actions during the riot until it really gone out of hand. In the West, it would be more harsh by the authorities!!!
That was my man Steve from Australian Survivor.
Also it's a bit rich lecturing China while not taking any action at all on Israel
i've heard lots of people in china say people are free. that includes foreigners.
We in the West can and have lectured non Western countries for decades about their humanitarian issues but heaven forbid if they tell us to look at our own human rights history it’s unforgivable. Australia decimated the original inhabitants of Australia and continue to do so as incarceration rates of aboriginals show. Our participation in wars around the world with America not because we were being attacked but for ideological or economic reasons where millions of these countries citizen have been killed gives us no justification to lecture anyone about human rights.
It’s almost like the present is more important or something. Re incarceration do you think the govt is just arresting aboriginals and putting them in prison for nothing? Seriously?
How are we still decimating Aboriginals? Pretty sure people being incarcerated are for pretty good reasons? Are you going to blame the white man for record numbers of child abuse and sexual abuse in the aboriginal communities?
It's all important or you don't want to understand reality. Which you demonstrably don't.
Not anybody else's fault.
And yes, arbitrary incarceration of indigenous people is rife in Australia. There are literally public forums where cops discuss this freely available to peruse at your leisure. There are public libraries. It's all public record. And all of that does indeed make us look like hypocrites. It's also why so many yt south Africans emigrated here after the end of apartness, because we resemble that more closely than anything else. You could just take the time to read outside of your biases or you could stay how you are. But I've no reason to take you seriously while you insist on your myopic ahistorical view@@user-bg6qr9mh3i
The issue is the CCP tells us to look at our own human rights history because they're trying to deflect, not because of their concern about human rights. I mean just take a look at what's been happening in to the Uyghur's in Xinjiang the past few years. Both countries have issues that doesn't mean they balance each other out, that's just whataboutism
"Our participation in wars around the world with America not because we were being attacked but for ideological or economic reasons" ....so you would include Australian military aid to Ukraine as further continuation of this?
Until 1960, aussie gov consider or classify aboriginal as sub-human or fauna.
Human Rights Paradigm :
Western : 15 -20 dollar/hour,,
China : 7-12 US dollar/hour,,
Western : it's called forced labor
China : we still have savings from all living expenses (food, accommodation, etc.)
GDP PPP 😢😢😮😮
@2:55; …”magical place, Cantonese and British administration”…
Jason sounded like an “Uncle Tom” or a lap dog to the max.
Not really. Have you ever visited or stayed in HK prior to 2019? What is under-reported is that one quarter of HK's population came onto the streets, during a typhoon, to protest the CCP's illegal takeover of HK. They did not want to be taken over by the CCP. Who would? Judging by your cynical comment can I presume their views don't count either?
And you sound like a racist.
@dweller;
I was exposing the Jason guy as a colonizer offspring and a English reminiscing about those occupying days.
Thousands of years, Hongkonger lived there, spoke Hakka or chaozhou. Rich Cantonese has only colonized it for about ~200 years, and “forced” Cantonese upon locals.
Even so, they saw themselves as Chinese, not a foreign white devils forcing English “rules based” (sirs to whites) view upon the locality.
And whole Hongkong protested against English colonists up to as late as the 1970’s. Of course, they were met with English clubs, guns and arrests without trials.
Again these are Chinese protests against white devils, and their “uncle toms” and lap dogs. And met with deaths by the uncle toms, lap dogs and white devils.
The protests you mentioned were by British educated English passport men and supported by my government through Falungong/Steve Bannon.
And so, are you a lap dog, or my Chinese friend’s term “walking dog”???
@@dweller6065 again, who are we to tell them what to do? West isn't even allowed to protest against genocid3 in Gaza.
@@dweller6065 I was born and grew up in HK. I had seen how much freedom (none) Hong Kong people had regarding to HK politics and how corrupted the Hong Kong ROYAL POLICE were under the British rule. Compare British's takeover of HK after the opium war and the return of HK to China in 1997, which is more illegal?
Australians only care about Australians. They don’t care about people in some far off land. So no, I don’t think Australia cares deeply about human rights. It’s all talk. Show you care by giving out money to people and governments all around the world, without the politics, in furtherance of human rights.
Australia needs to balance its values and its national interests.
So be true to ourselves and continue to raise issues - behind closed doors - but pls don’t be a hero, shouting at them through megaphone diplomacy (like that previous bunch led by the twin idiots Marise Payne and ScoMo), having zero effect in upholding our values while jeopardising our national interests.
Shame on these people talking non sense. Double standard and pretentious.
"Consistent", except when Palestine
during trump i really hope australia goes back to a friendly based relationship with China. US/China is the only global war that will occur. and we need to reach for global peace. however difficult.
Jason: "British colonialism of Hong Kong was so magical. I'm a western dog."
Beats authoritarian Chinese governance
Just listen to every pro hamas supporter in Australia and you know about trying to interfere in others
Iraq, syria, lybia, Afghanistan, Palestine, and some other in africa and latin america. In autralia and new Zealand as well
Australia another lapdog of 🇺🇸
Solve ur own problems
@eddychan2112 The major concern was the CCP engaging in extra judicial abduction of HK individuals across the border. The frequency of abductions increased in the 2017, 18 period, included book sellers, businessmen on the wrong end of deals. Actions outside of the scope of HK treaty. The situation really blew up when the CCP took direct control of HK police and backed white clad gangs to bear up protesters travelling on the metro. HK civil affairs were to remain in the capable hands of HK administrators until 2047. One country, 2 systems became 1 country, 1 system. Anyhow, what the CCP did after 2047 was its business.
Despite its ostensible position as an international human rights champion, the United States has failed to ratify crucial human rights documents, such as the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW), the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC), the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD). Should we "lecture" the US on human rights?
no we have no right to tell any other sovereign country what to do but we reserve the right to refuse to trade with them. we send over 85% of our natural gas overseas for example, perhaps we should look into that
Sickening debate...😅😅
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I think this episode was sponsored by china lol 😂