Unfortunately it's old news already. Interpolation is the new crutch now w/ all the pathtracing marketing. The industry is moving at twice the speed of the actual market.
How about this: don't buy games made by developers that are too lazy to optimize or made in a time crunch. Instead, buy games that are passion projects made by developers that had fun creating their game, and aren't pressured to release their game as soon as possible.
Hmm, I don't know... what I do know is that Alan Wake II doesn't look that amazing to warrant these requirements; I do understand that it's really RT heavy, but otherwise, next to insane lighting, I'm not blown away by what I'm seeing
Red Dead Redemption takes a RX 480 to get 60 fps native (i think that is what recommeded is). Alan Wake 2 takes a RTX 3070 with preformance upscaling. According to tech power up that is a 687% increase in power. I certainly don't see why Alan Wake 2 is 687% harder to run intenally showing a quarter of the pixels.
Artificially bloated - no doubt some game studios sign contracts with Nvidia to have their games experimented with. With system requirements being raised on purpouse, for many effects that actually do minor improvement, but don't necessarily make the game more realistic - per contract Nvidia probably gives them a cut, from the GPU sales.
Dumb devs, that's the only cause I saw. The problem is that people always point the fault to hardware, never to the devs. We have insane video cards nowadays that cost a half or more of the entire PC, only for playing games with almost the same graphics of games from 5 years ago
@@dante19890 yeah but a 3070 is definitely more powerfull than a ps5 so the pss will either use lower setting or a even lower resulution than 540p or both
@@tyre1337 😂😂 its sad that its true in the future they will need to make 100 series graphics cards for 4k becsause 90 series will only be enough for 1440p or 1080p
still rockin my 2017 1080ti win10 i saw what they were up to with the upscaling an dsellng cards based on FPS LOL they ripped off people moving to PC from console who didnt know any better
It's really wild when upscaling technologies are included in the game's system recommendation. You're basically saying that even with a 4070, I can only run AW2 at 1080p60 high settings natively. The graphics'd better worth it
These recommended specs have been the last straw for me, I saw them two days ago, I thought about all the new games I want to play, I concluded that I was not interested in the gaming market as it is now, and then I sold my 6950xt
I would say "the raytracing meme again proves to be fairy dust that 99% of buyers will not pay for" but every single NVIDIA cultist is already screaming about NVIDIA's total victory about being the only option in offering a 550$ 540p experience...
And the sickest joke, is it will probably run butter smooth 30fps on PS5 and even Series S will not look noticeably worse on it. Whereas to achieve the same on the piss poor, unoptimized pc port, it will be horrendously expensive.
@@brokeandtired yeah the devs make a custom setting for the ps5 and tone it to make it look as good as possible whereas we just get presets where they expect us to have 4070 ti+ all the time
Its crazy how many Nvidia fanboys will aggressively counter your point with bs. It's so obvious that Nvidia is "helping" these devs push new GPUs. Why would nvidia NOT do that? I would if I were CEO but people will act like you need tin foil hat for your idea lmao this industry is fked sadly.
Problem I have with the game is that the lowest requirements should always try to be as inclusive as possible while not going overboard on downgrading. This game doesnt have that at all. If they said you need a 1060 with 1080p 60 fps and DLSS on performance i'd be ok with it. But a 2060 with DLSS quality for just 30 fps is just insanity.
I don't know, that one seems the most reasonable to me. A 2060 is ancient at this point. The 6700xt and 3070 getting 1080p 60fps on PERFORMANCE mode is fucking unthinkable.
@@aquaneon8012 When the cards stop being relevant. The GTX 1060 is at number 4 in the Steam hardware survey. The only higher end card in the top ten is the RTX 3070 and maybe the RTX 3060Ti. The decidedly mid-range RTX 3060 is the top card. Most people aren't gaming on the top of the line graphics cards, so it seems very odd that developers look to be deliberately giving a subpar experience to all except those who can afford the latest and greatest.
@@aquaneon8012 2016. But because of how common the card is and cards in that range, I think that's a goal people should aim for when it comes to minimum settings. Minimum is lowest possible and can look quite crap compared to the rest. I think the jump from low to medium can be quite drastic for this reason. I think if the card wasnt popular still or was like the the 900 series cards then sure that's too old.
I felt like the community was being hyperbolic about the future of unplayable games, and then the devs are like yeah you were actually on the money. Rip duder
i ve been sayying this shit since ps3 where everything was online and during the 2nd half of the ps3 era games already were not optimized adn needed 6 months to work properly, 6 months at least. and now, its taken to another level. im giving up on gaming its just nto worth it anymore.
Idk but rtx 4070ti cost 1100€ and rtx 4080 cost 1550€ as lowest and rx 7800xt 710€ and rx 7900xtx lowest I saw was 1200€ feels like a scam so I end up to upgrade from rtx 3070 to rx 6950xt and that 6950xt cost only 820€ with m2-ssd 1tb worth 60€ was a deal for me.
During the spring of this year, I realized that I pretty much lost all interest in playing games. In fact, I haven't done any gaming in months. Seems like this loss of interest came at the perfect time. The last few months, I've been learning Unreal Engine. My 'gaming' interests switched from playing games to development of games.
developing games is fine, but you're looking at the wrong avenue when it comes to playing games. I stopped playing "AAA" trite over 7 years ago, only indie games or older games in general. There are hardly any good big studio games released in the past 7 years that have any replay ability and have only 4-5 hour long game play time. Not spending 600-2k upgrading hardware just to play one shitty game.
unreal engine 5 needs to support mGPU, they also need to ditch that crappy cpu physic engine that's based off of PhysX inside of it, its the main reason that both unreal engine 4 & 5 have stuttering problems on single gpu & modren cpu's
I'm studying 3 modeling now and I noticed that now in games in many games often they just don't use baking as often as it was done before and they just don't cut the number of polygons for higher quality but in fact if you don't really look hard at the model then you won't even notice that it's not geometry, but a baked map, if it's a well-baked map. I think they do it on the basis that it saves the resources of the team very much, because it is good to optimize the model, it is not a difficult process, but it is simply a very often time-consuming process. Therefore, they are probably betting on upscaling, directing resources in other directions. And in general, I think that now many game campaigns will simply bet on upscaling, without spending extra money on the optimization process. That's why there are so many vram requirements in games now, because the models are simply not optimized for quality, which in fact, if you don't look with a magnifying glass, you won't see it.
when I tried running the nanite/lumen demo on my gtx 1060 and saw the 30fps average, I thought to myself that there's no way that devs would actually use this tech until it matured enough Not only was I wrong but the complete opposite happened
PC gaming is starting to look more and more like console gaming since ray tracing appeared. Crap performance and blurry games. I recently reinstalled Gears 5 on a RX 6700 XT to test a new monitor and that games runs maxed out at 1440p at +140 fps all the time sometimes hitting +200. The game looks absolutely stunning in 2023 and plays great and guess what? no Ray tracing. Nobody is gonna tell me that 540p at 30 fps with ray tracing looks better and is the future . Companies like CDPR and Remedy are just nvidia tech demos developpers at this point, so damn sad
I love Remedy games but I have been vocal in regards to optimization and even said that the only way I'm playing this badly optimized port is through piracy. I still stand by that, but others will swallow the game publisher's semen whole.
This got me thinking about swapping the 1440P 144hz for 4k 60hz. Game conditions are getting worse and worse. In 5 years we will need an RTX 5090 at 720P with DLSS performance.
I understand your perspective. Tbh, I no longer get excited about AAA games these days because they either require a NASA supercomputer to run or they're just plain bad. Indie games are my last hope for gaming. If all else fails, I will play the same few games for the rest of my life.
i mean it right game like barotrauma,starsector or project zomboid will run on a gt 730 1080p and get 60fps i mind you that and have better game play than majority of AAA
1080p low not even native resolution? This is the problem with dlss being so focused on. We have gone back like 12 years. Yay we can game at 720p on a £1000+ graphics card.. 😊 love how games are improving. 😅
You can always get a 4080 for 700 dollars. You just gonna have to wait a while. EDIT: Wait, Alan Wake 2 releases really soon. I guess I will just watch benchmarks. That will be some interesting stuff.
I’m currently replaying Far Cry 4 with a 6700 xt in native 1440 at ultra, couldn’t be enjoying myself any more. I can’t believe that is not going to be the norm into the future
Vex, just a heads up. AMD invited many game developers to test AntiLag+ and many refused thinking nothing would go wrong. Vanguard did invite many devs to test beta drivers, and many blew the team off. Also, it doesn't mess with game files. All it does is hook the I/O for video and input and then retunes the windows system timer to lower the latency using frame generation. Also, normal AntiLag works the same way as AntiLag+ but without the tighter timings to the timer for frame generation, and doesn't get a ban.
We need to see full list of graphical settings after release. If there will be a lot of stuff you can turn off or downgrade to low it could save the situation.
people dont know how to do low level optimisation but they use dx12 anyway, this causes massive issues like how cyberpunk 2.0 optimisation tries causes negative results
I don't even know if the problem is solely in the chip manufacturers. Developers are just completely relying on upscaling and cutting optimization work out of their projects.
I didnt really paid attention to it but ALOT of my friends actually bought an AMD Card as their new gpu. Nvidia Cards, despite all their shiny Features, are just to expensive. I paid around 360 bucks for an 6800xt, best deal of my life. And before i get jumped by nvidia Fans, im not saying nvidia is Bad or smth, i used nvidia for pretty much all of my pc career for about 15 years. But because of the pricing i tried AMD and im really happy with it. Greetings from Germany, love your channel ❤
@@LTNetjakyou think? Me personally the only good cards recently are the 6000s from AMD nvidia does not have any good cards atm. And now people are saying 12gb vram is soon going to be the minimum and the new 8gb. Rn I'm hoping intel makes something amazing or do something with the a770!
4080S will probably MSRP at the current 4080 price. It will drive the 4080 price down through the stack. The 4080ti would slide in right between the Super and the 4090, driving down the resale price of the Super, and inflating the price of the 4090. Nvidia is on a warpath against their own company
As far as I understand the leaks, there won't be both a "Ti" and "Super" version at the same time. Only a single new 4080 will be released and it will be called either "Super" OR "Ti" (currently unknown).
I really hate the people always asking for better graphics, it’s just a shame to not be able to play 1440p 60fps with a 400€ GPU When will we stop accepting that ? Why do we need that much graphic fidelity ? Like we’re in the middle of one of the worst inflation crisis and they have the arrogance of releasing something like that ?
@@dante19890we're at a point of diminishing returns do you really pay attention to every particle and unnecessary reflection while playing? If yes, otherwise you might as well watch a tech demo
@@dante19890Most people upgrade on a 5-7 year cycle, this game is asking for 3-4 year old high end just to play at piss poor framerates at 1080p... and as GPUs have gotten more expensive and more and more people live paycheck to paycheck, telling them to just upgrade lol is kind of a dick move. Who's even gonna buy a game they can't run? I don't care if the devs claim "well our low settings are everybody else's high settings", that's a laughably bad take for everybody but those who want to force people to upgrade sooner (read: GPU companies, but primarily Nvidia). I honestly don't get the graphics push, games still largely look like shit, and now they also run like shit. Yay progress.
@@francisquebachmann7375 There is still a long way to go until we reach photorealism. The game graphics isnt gonna come to a standstill cuz u wanna have ur old gpu for the rest of ur life
@@astra6640 ITs just the reality of the situation. We are in a new console generation now and games are being made with ps5 as base plattform targeting 30 fps. So if u want game running at higher res and over 60fps u need a pc thats frankly 2 to 3 times faster than the ps5.
Nvidia is charging a premium for DLSS and Path tracing performance and it's pretty compelling when you look at CP77 FL and Alan Wake 2. However, I have always bought Nvidia but am now seriously questioning that choice. these prices are stupid. $500 for a PS5 or $3.5k for a top-end PC is just not appetising anymore.
Funnily enough the GRE cards arent actually China exclusive as theres a place in South Africa that sells them, maybe they order them from China idk but they are available.
@@papichuckle Hahaha ikr! Imagine reviewers not getting blacklisted for focusing on single core boost and rasterization performance when those things actually still matter in the real world
@kvernesdotten that's why upscaling has become a requirement because alot of these engines and devs cant be bothered to have good multi core/threaded performance, they just all want us to have the best i9 cpu out because single core speed go vroom vroom
The Nvidia ARM chip thing has been in the works for years, something like since 2008. “Project Denver” was the first time they formally announced this to the public, I think. The only fruit of this project, however, were the Tegra processors, which is what is used in the Switch. Aside from that, they have Tegra-like ARM chips they use for server farms, but are not available for the average consumer. Been waiting on these forever on the desktop!
Remember the time when games were optimized to run on your hardware WITHOUT you making so many tweaks and concessions to frame rate limits? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
The problem is the game engine's that are being used. Optimizations are limited unless you dev your own engine and have full control of the render pipeline and game loop. And these engines are less code driven... they have literally become drag and drop... almost...
How is Alan Wake 2, a game where 95% of the screen is covered by darkness, requiring that much GPU power? Does it have anything to do with using 3700X CPU across all the tests? I mean I don't know anyone gaming with a 3700X and RTX4080.
Everyone should think of it this way. "If I can't play it, then I am not buying it." Studios will figure it out when they are trying to explain to the board members why there are not mountains of money to swim in like Scrooge Mc Duck.
The Antilag+ controversy is definitely AMD's mistake because they didn't communicate enough with the game developers of these e-sports games, but wow... what is up with Nvidia users jumping onto every opportunity to shame people, who simply had no idea that this would even happen? I really do not understand why both sides have these "apple vs android" type of arguments going on between each other, it's awful to see and makes my interest on PC hardware lower.
People get emotionally attached to their investmens (sunken cost fallacy is in play a bit here too), even if it isn't that expensive of a product you see this type of condescension
It's quite simple they intend to kill desktop gpus by upping the price, requirements for new games, etc...so in the next couple of years cloud gaming will be more"worth it" compared to GPU prices. It's a project to rip peoples ass without the need to logistic hardware to the whole world, and end pirates. The way i view it gaming will be almost exclusively over the cloud in the future, sadly.
I literally contemplated selling my PC when the specs for Alan Wake 2 got out. Still am. The experience we get is just not worth the investment and the hardware I overpaid for last year is considered not good enough. I'll just keep my PS5 and accept the shitty performance at 540p native because at least it is cheap.
Yeah just don't buy it. We have works of art that run amazingly well from 3-5 years ago. No need to swap from the best platform just to play their hot garbage
Sounds good in theory, does not work. For everyone who does not buy it, 10 others do because they dont know / dont care. The industry has to move forward at some point tech wise, but not at this expense. Ludicrous prices for barely midrange hardware and only to run at resolutions not acceptable in the PS3 era. Pathetic.
I don’t care anymore.. I got a budget RTX 3050 6gb laptop. Hook it up to my QHD monitor. Been playing cyberpunk on high settings with DLSS quality at 1440p, cap it at 45 fps and having a blast! Got a series s too for games like the one mentioned in the video. If it runs crap on my laptop, then I’ll check the console version. I doubt it wil run like crap on a current gen console. As I grow up the more I realise that I have to be resourceful and not chase the greatest and latest. What does it matter anyway. Point is to have fun not to flex your graphics settings. Now in terms of the bad state of the newly released games such as cities skylines 2, I could care less.. I just won’t play them. I have a humongous catalog of games that I wanna play. Am I coping? Eh I don’t think so.. been saving my money for travelling!
Why make a game that only a few thousands of people with ton of money are able to play? Do developers not care about sales anymore? Is the pc market so miniscule to them that they only use it just to show off the latest graphics technology but not the actual game? All I know is that this is the worst form of gate keeping, gate keeping people behind a wall called money, devs and people who talk about accessibility in games for disabled people but ignore the financial accessibility which is much more important are complete hypocrite, if You can't even play the game on your system how is that any different from making a game impossible to beat for disabled people?
@@tomraider099 I guess I am stupid enough... unlucky. I pay my own bills btw, don't have rich parents. Also my electricity provider curently charges me 11 cents per kwh.
The graphics look like any other good modern game, certainly don't warrant these specs. Companies do this because first and foremost, they get away with it because people buy it. Why spend the extra time and money to properly optimize a game when you can have upscaling tech do it for you and mindless consumers continue to buy your product anyway? Want them to improve? Vote with your wallet and tell them you're not buying their shit sandwiches.
Happy as a clam with my Red Devil 7900xtx. The longer I have it, the more I'm certain I made the right call not dropping another $600 on the Gucci card.
I bought my 7900 XTX OC hearing all the negatives from the Nvidia teams but honestly best card I ever owned. I use unity HQ assets 4k/8k skin textures on my models HQ reflections no issues. I could tell this card will carry me to 5yrs plus.
22hrs ago* they just dropped Alan Wake support for Nvidia 10-series and AMD 5000-series cards. Edit: ngl Alan Wake 2 recommended is looking like an excused for planned obsolescences.
@dante19890 Not at this rate. Have you seen how much they have been trying to push these shitty software technologies, such as upscaling and frame gen? Why do you think the current gen midrange GPUs has been highly criticized? Because they have received lackluster hardware upgrades and even downgrades in some specs for stupidly high prices. They are cutting corners on the hardware, resulting in poor raw performance. Instead, they are using shitty upscaling and frame gen as the main selling points of their GPUs instead of making them faster. And developers are using them as a crutch to not optimise their games properly. This is literally killing PC gaming, and RUclipsrs such as Hardware Unboxed have pointed this out.
@@Gamer-q7v hate to break it to u but native res gaming is gone and will forever be. Upscaling is getting better and better and developers are factoring it in to the performance and graphical budget while designing their games. Hardware unboxed is wrong here, they are good at testing stuff but they have no clue about game development. Upscaling techniques are not being used as a crutch after the fact to claw back performance they are being used as a foundation giving devs a higher rendering budget while designing their games.
@@dante19890 Native raw rendering will always be better than these gimmicks. Native resolution should never die, as there are many gamers out there who prefer native raw rendering. Who the fuck wants fake AI based software frames that are fucking garbage? People call out and criticise consoles for fake 4K gaming because they use upscaling, so it's not true 4K, which is true. PC gaming is doing exactly the same, though. This shit is exactly what's killing PC gaming.
i have read that low/med settings at alan wake 2 will be equivalent to high/ultra settings in other games. when the overall optic is fine than i am fine with that quite high hardware requirements.
The problem is not the settings in this game. It’s the settings alongside the mandatory upscaling. No matter how good dlss is, performance dlss at 1080p looks abysmal. Like smudge. Fsr is even worse.
i mean NVidia has to be more expensive just because of the features you'll lose when chosing AMD.... but a 3060 Ti class GPU with 16GB for 500€ is ridiculous. the 4070 Ti should be a 500€ GPU.
I die a little inside when seeing people recommend the 4060Ti 16GB. Those fools could've had a 80 class card from the previous and current generation for the same price from AMD, the 6800XT and 7800XT.
Bruh, I'm playing my old childhood Flash games and even games like Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition and Heroes ofight and Magic 3: Horn of The Abyss which just keep getting new stuff despite being older than me (they were both launched in 1999). I play these on my 2017 laptop Intel HD Graphics iGPU. Maybe that's just me because I pretty much like RTS and strategy games, but surely there are underrated old games and people simply need to look back a little and see the beauty of the old stuff. The overhype over new games keeps the demand over new GPUs high regardless of how much they cost. DLSS, FSR and XeSS will be the new standard while I can chill while playing old games. The new games need a mass boycott to hammer companies into focusing on optimisation. This will make game engines also focus on optimisation and the prices for new GPUs would also come back to normal.
Can I just point out, Alan Wake 2 is THIS graphicly demanding and its not even a open world game, 99% of it is confined places with limited enviroment rendered yet THIS is the requirements you need for it? This is actually a joke.
This was a well put video, much better than I thought, the thumbnail doesn't make justice to all the content of this video, just so you know you could use titles or thumnails to let us know is about more than one topic.
I just put up a sheet with price and performance and just did a table division price/performance and sorted and the cheapest card on the market (per performance) would be the RTX4050, RX 7600 close second, 4060 third.. and.. well RX 570 fourth... Yea.. a card from 2017
A few things I gotta say about Alan Wake 2 PC requirements: - If you need upscaling to move the game that's lazy optimization and no other excuse because an RX 6600 and RTX 2060 can move a game perfectly using UE5 without Ray Tracing. - They don't really surprise me because that's what you have to expect from now on, games are gonna be made to make them move in a series s at least and that console has a GPU equivalent to an RX 6600 or RTX 2060 and the recommended settings will be equivalent to a PS5 and Xbox series s, basically something between an RX 6700 XT and RX 6800XT. Yes, Remedy did lazy optimization for Alan Wake 2, they could have done better but they don't really surprise me because Alan Wake 2 is a next gen game, it is not made for a PS4 or Xbox one, it's made to make it move in at least a series s.
4k fsr/dlss makes sense. Not 1080p fsr/dlss with a good gpu. This is getting to the point where poorly coded dx9 games have better optimization than current games.
Nvidia's Tegra processors are ARM-based in Nintendo Switch and Nvidia Shield, and we know a new Switch is in the works. Similarly, AMD might be exploring ARM for the next Xbox, as the recent Microsoft link showed they were considering ARM. That might be bad news for future PC ports.
The "ARM's race" is fueled by investors. Won't make a dent in static gaming hardware. Portable gaming could see some innovation with Microsoft/Windows Arm projects, but they are mainly aimed at competing in the Chromebook market. Microsoft, like Nvidia mostly want to hedge on institutional clients versus general consumer. Apple is making ridiculous profit via their closed loop ecosystem and everyone is seeing the dollar signs and following. Unfortunately money and market moves guide the direction and progress of various goods and the general consumer has little power in this climate.
AMD is good choice for FPS. NVIDIA is good choice for production. Thats why Windows is expensive and Linux is free. One makes money, another makes chaos.
Upscaling is amazing, especially FSR which helps people with not so good PCs to play games at a stable 60 or more FPS, but now game devs think that optimization doesn't fucking exist
Its not fair to say that RISC CPU are bloat free. What the do is that they execute every instruction in one cycle (well kind of sort of) but on the flip side they lack more complex instructions. This all over reduce the number of instruction making the ALU smaller, but it does make the code larger. That is not a huge problem. A other issue is that something that may take 3 or 4 instruction for a RISC CPU may only take 1 instruction for a CISC CPU. If the instruction is really good a CISC CPU can still process that instruction in 2 or maybe even 1 clock cycle. This makes it so CISC processors generally can run any code faster with the same core frequency. Back in the 90s due to how nodes work then RISC CPU often came with significantly higher core clock, but that is no longer the case. For FPU instructions there really is not much diffrance between CISC and RISC. If you run FPU heavy code there is pretty much no diffrance. Actually you can use the same FPU on a RISC and CISC CPU. This is for example the case between Alpha RISC CPU and AMD k7 having the same FPU. Also worth saying that while X87 code base is a specific FPU code base for x86 systems. Its very simple to convert FPU code. Its pretty much just a transfer table. This is diffrent from say converting ARM to x86 code that need to first be deassaembeled.
Anti Lag is affecting Apex Legends too not only CS. :) my account was banned too any many others having the same issue, however Respawn said they are gonna look into this and unban everyone affected.
10:10 Ok looks nice but where is the DS that came out in 2019 and runs on and GTX 1650. Compare them and are there any improvements? (except in lighting but like this in models and textures) I really don't understand how a game can be so demanding. If you don't know what to do, ask Kojima to give you an engine to use.
I feel like the ting that sucks with amd is that they make cards with good specs but then there driver is always behind the one of Nvidia (ai upscaling for example) or am I ring about this? I wanna know bc I am looking to upgrade
Upscaling was a mistake. Now developers think they can use it as a crutch in place of proper optimization.
Unfortunately it's old news already. Interpolation is the new crutch now w/ all the pathtracing marketing. The industry is moving at twice the speed of the actual market.
They used it all the time during ps4 era, now it's on pc too...
How about this: don't buy games made by developers that are too lazy to optimize or made in a time crunch. Instead, buy games that are passion projects made by developers that had fun creating their game, and aren't pressured to release their game as soon as possible.
Hmm, I don't know... what I do know is that Alan Wake II doesn't look that amazing to warrant these requirements; I do understand that it's really RT heavy, but otherwise, next to insane lighting, I'm not blown away by what I'm seeing
@@RobVee. I do not now nor have I ever bought a game for graphics. I always buy for game play and story.
Red Dead Redemption takes a RX 480 to get 60 fps native (i think that is what recommeded is). Alan Wake 2 takes a RTX 3070 with preformance upscaling. According to tech power up that is a 687% increase in power. I certainly don't see why Alan Wake 2 is 687% harder to run intenally showing a quarter of the pixels.
Artificially bloated - no doubt some game studios sign contracts with Nvidia to have their games experimented with. With system requirements being raised on purpouse, for many effects that actually do minor improvement, but don't necessarily make the game more realistic - per contract Nvidia probably gives them a cut, from the GPU sales.
Actually you will not see a 687% difference between rx 480 and 3070 in any game
Dumb devs, that's the only cause I saw. The problem is that people always point the fault to hardware, never to the devs. We have insane video cards nowadays that cost a half or more of the entire PC, only for playing games with almost the same graphics of games from 5 years ago
U can't compare a PS4 era game to a PS5 era game.
Obviously the PC req will go up significantly in this generation
@@dante19890 yeah but a 3070 is definitely more powerfull than a ps5 so the pss will either use lower setting or a even lower resulution than 540p or both
This is one reason why 1080p is never gonna die.
1440p with ultra performance FSR2 look better than 1080p
1080p is dead because now it looks like we're going back to 720p
1080p looks terrible stop lying to these ppl
@@tyre1337 😂😂 its sad that its true in the future they will need to make 100 series graphics cards for 4k becsause 90 series will only be enough for 1440p or 1080p
I don't plan to upgrade for the next years until we have cheap CPUs and Gpus that can do 4k 60fps without upscaling or melting the PC
The fact that DLSS/FSR is a REQUIREMENT for Alan Wake II is just the latest in a long line of developers just not giving a shit about PC gamers
Punish the bad behavior, don't buy it
@@oliversmith2129 Wasn't going to anyway
SO TRUE
still rockin my 2017 1080ti win10 i saw what they were up to with the upscaling an dsellng cards based on FPS LOL they ripped off people moving to PC from console who didnt know any better
@@ScoopDogg I started with a 1650 then upgraded to a 6650 XT. I'm just happy my rig is a 1080p 60 fps machine
It's really wild when upscaling technologies are included in the game's system recommendation. You're basically saying that even with a 4070, I can only run AW2 at 1080p60 high settings natively. The graphics'd better worth it
not natively, if u want to run 1080 native u will get more like 45 - 50 fps
These recommended specs have been the last straw for me, I saw them two days ago, I thought about all the new games I want to play, I concluded that I was not interested in the gaming market as it is now, and then I sold my 6950xt
@@scienceium5233 medium settings then XD
@@mastroitek most of my "wishlist" games are pre-2020, still have a long list of games to play
" The graphics'd better worth it"
its not worth it
And its Epic Store exclusive. They must WANT this game to fail.
Well now I am certainly never playing it XD. Not that I was even before.
And they pushed it back cause the devs were scared to drop it on the same day as Mario/Spiderman.
@@MalikATLthey're releasing it right before Helloween which is 100% logical decision. How is it connected to Mario or Spiderman ?
I wasn't gonna even bother but this is just cherry on top
Control was also exclusive to Epic Games for a year. It didn’t fail.
I would say "the raytracing meme again proves to be fairy dust that 99% of buyers will not pay for" but every single NVIDIA cultist is already screaming about NVIDIA's total victory about being the only option in offering a 550$ 540p experience...
isn't it 1080p upscaling?
And the sickest joke, is it will probably run butter smooth 30fps on PS5 and even Series S will not look noticeably worse on it. Whereas to achieve the same on the piss poor, unoptimized pc port, it will be horrendously expensive.
@@brokeandtired yeah the devs make a custom setting for the ps5 and tone it to make it look as good as possible whereas we just get presets where they expect us to have 4070 ti+ all the time
RTX is there only to show you how much you need a 90 series GPU.
@@elove6215yeah 540p to 1080p upscale but it looks nowhere near as good as actual 1080p
Alan Wake 2 was co-oped to sell more overpriced NVIDIA cards ( Confirmed)
Its crazy how many Nvidia fanboys will aggressively counter your point with bs. It's so obvious that Nvidia is "helping" these devs push new GPUs. Why would nvidia NOT do that? I would if I were CEO but people will act like you need tin foil hat for your idea lmao this industry is fked sadly.
On my dead body.
Indie gaming is the future.
Indie gaming is not affected by this nonsense at all and the games are generally....more fucking fun anyway.
UE5+Unity=horrible indie experience
@@Seacat17 yep
@@Seacat17unity is being phased out by indie developers so wont be a problem for long
@@captainheat2314 great. So UE5 will be a problem for my computer.
Problem I have with the game is that the lowest requirements should always try to be as inclusive as possible while not going overboard on downgrading.
This game doesnt have that at all. If they said you need a 1060 with 1080p 60 fps and DLSS on performance i'd be ok with it. But a 2060 with DLSS quality for just 30 fps is just insanity.
I don't know, that one seems the most reasonable to me. A 2060 is ancient at this point.
The 6700xt and 3070 getting 1080p 60fps on PERFORMANCE mode is fucking unthinkable.
when did 1060 release? and at what point do we stop supporting old graphics cards on the latest triple a games?
@@aquaneon8012 When the cards stop being relevant. The GTX 1060 is at number 4 in the Steam hardware survey. The only higher end card in the top ten is the RTX 3070 and maybe the RTX 3060Ti. The decidedly mid-range RTX 3060 is the top card.
Most people aren't gaming on the top of the line graphics cards, so it seems very odd that developers look to be deliberately giving a subpar experience to all except those who can afford the latest and greatest.
@@StrengthScholar0 2060 isnt ancient lol. It's 4 years old. It's two generations back.
@@aquaneon8012 2016. But because of how common the card is and cards in that range, I think that's a goal people should aim for when it comes to minimum settings.
Minimum is lowest possible and can look quite crap compared to the rest. I think the jump from low to medium can be quite drastic for this reason.
I think if the card wasnt popular still or was like the the 900 series cards then sure that's too old.
i'm sure that all 12 people who:
1. have a $1000 gpu
2. use the epic launcher
3. care about alan wake
are very excited for it!
Lol brutal
so trve
Right??? This is like that app that costed 1000$ on the app store that just said "I am rich".
right on
i have a high end gpu, still don't care.
I felt like the community was being hyperbolic about the future of unplayable games, and then the devs are like yeah you were actually on the money. Rip duder
i ve been sayying this shit since ps3 where everything was online and during the 2nd half of the ps3 era games already were not optimized adn needed 6 months to work properly, 6 months at least.
and now, its taken to another level. im giving up on gaming its just nto worth it anymore.
@@deathrager2404games exist outside of AAA, you know.
If a 4080 was 1100 usd here in eu, i would get one tomorrow. Its more like 1600-2000 usd depending on the model here
Meanwhile a 7900xtx is less than 1k
Finland is very expensive and the cheapest 4080 is currently 1250 euros
@@PaperReaper My country 4080 1250 euros and 7900 xtx 1050 euro. Who is gonna pay 200 extra for a 4080 💀
Why is Nvidia so much more expensive in Europe?
Idk but rtx 4070ti cost 1100€ and rtx 4080 cost 1550€ as lowest and rx 7800xt 710€ and rx 7900xtx lowest I saw was 1200€ feels like a scam so I end up to upgrade from rtx 3070 to rx 6950xt and that 6950xt cost only 820€ with m2-ssd 1tb worth 60€ was a deal for me.
During the spring of this year, I realized that I pretty much lost all interest in playing games. In fact, I haven't done any gaming in months. Seems like this loss of interest came at the perfect time. The last few months, I've been learning Unreal Engine. My 'gaming' interests switched from playing games to development of games.
developing games is fine, but you're looking at the wrong avenue when it comes to playing games. I stopped playing "AAA" trite over 7 years ago, only indie games or older games in general. There are hardly any good big studio games released in the past 7 years that have any replay ability and have only 4-5 hour long game play time. Not spending 600-2k upgrading hardware just to play one shitty game.
unreal engine 5 needs to support mGPU, they also need to ditch that crappy cpu physic engine that's based off of PhysX inside of it, its the main reason that both unreal engine 4 & 5 have stuttering problems on single gpu & modren cpu's
Can you make some decent games for us to enjoy? I'm sick of the mainstream industry
I'm studying 3 modeling now and I noticed that now in games in many games often they just don't use baking as often as it was done before and they just don't cut the number of polygons for higher quality but in fact if you don't really look hard at the model then you won't even notice that it's not geometry, but a baked map, if it's a well-baked map. I think they do it on the basis that it saves the resources of the team very much, because it is good to optimize the model, it is not a difficult process, but it is simply a very often time-consuming process. Therefore, they are probably betting on upscaling, directing resources in other directions. And in general, I think that now many game campaigns will simply bet on upscaling, without spending extra money on the optimization process. That's why there are so many vram requirements in games now, because the models are simply not optimized for quality, which in fact, if you don't look with a magnifying glass, you won't see it.
when I tried running the nanite/lumen demo on my gtx 1060 and saw the 30fps average, I thought to myself that there's no way that devs would actually use this tech until it matured enough
Not only was I wrong but the complete opposite happened
1060 in 2023? no way man. :D :D Like yes they are more expensive but u have senior GPU. Sorry not sorry.
PC gaming is starting to look more and more like console gaming since ray tracing appeared. Crap performance and blurry games. I recently reinstalled Gears 5 on a RX 6700 XT to test a new monitor and that games runs maxed out at 1440p at +140 fps all the time sometimes hitting +200. The game looks absolutely stunning in 2023 and plays great and guess what? no Ray tracing. Nobody is gonna tell me that 540p at 30 fps with ray tracing looks better and is the future . Companies like CDPR and Remedy are just nvidia tech demos developpers at this point, so damn sad
At this point I pretty much just firmly believe ray tracing was a fucking mistake.
Same issue with the new Forza Motorsport. Blurry and runs like dogpiss, but hey, it has raytracing!
theyre shoving ray tracing into games like its the norm, when its really just experimental features
Ray tracing ? The thing that most of us will never use ?
@@ni9274 exactly, ive even tried some games with rtx on and off, theres only a difference in the small details, not worth the performance hit at all
As long as gamers keep buying broken and badly optimized games, the4 devs will keep making em.
In short, blame yourself for this sitch.
Yes blame ourselves for buying enjoyable games regardless of how they run🙄
I love Remedy games but I have been vocal in regards to optimization and even said that the only way I'm playing this badly optimized port is through piracy. I still stand by that, but others will swallow the game publisher's semen whole.
@@LSK2K control isn't poorly optimized though? It's only Aw2 my guy
I can't even buy games...
@@thenoobreturnz8968 I never mentioned CONTROL. But while we're on the topic, that game is amazing.
Bruuuuh a 4080 costs 1100 USD???
Brother my entire set up is 1K, desk, chair etc.
Its nutty how nvidia is atm.
That power consumption holy shit. 300 watts for a CPU???
Wait til you see the 4090's price
@@tanthokg 4090ti, we will reach new highs
@@tanthokg What is it? 1300?
@@splatsma The 4090 is 1600 USD.
This got me thinking about swapping the 1440P 144hz for 4k 60hz. Game conditions are getting worse and worse.
In 5 years we will need an RTX 5090 at 720P with DLSS performance.
This is why I use my 4K 144hz monitor to enjoy playing old games lol
Give it up, guys. It's a money sink at this point. I made a decision not to participate anymore.
Same.
Don't have to give anything up. Just don't buy the garbage they put out nowadays.
But I like Alan wake 1...
I understand your perspective. Tbh, I no longer get excited about AAA games these days because they either require a NASA supercomputer to run or they're just plain bad. Indie games are my last hope for gaming. If all else fails, I will play the same few games for the rest of my life.
@@procrastinates true
Dlss should be a boost not a requirement, whats wrong with developers nowadays
Exactly
Rtx 6090ti: Dlss 5 + FG 3 + ray reconstruction 3 + variable rate shading 2 + AI enhancement for 1080p 60fps to 90fps.
And it'll be a cool $2000
DLSS 5 will ai generate mouse and keyboards inputs for you, you just look at the screen
@@tyre1337 Indeed.
More like 6k usd
@@shadowrealms2676 $6090. Just $1000 more than the $5090. Such a bargain it'll be.
it's killing me how games demand much more but dont look any better
i mean it right game like barotrauma,starsector or project zomboid will run on a gt 730 1080p and get 60fps i mind you that and have better game play than majority of AAA
I'm so glad threadripper's back, not cause I can afford it or have a use for it, but because I can't wait for reviews and benchmarks.
1080p low not even native resolution? This is the problem with dlss being so focused on. We have gone back like 12 years. Yay we can game at 720p on a £1000+ graphics card.. 😊 love how games are improving. 😅
You can always get a 4080 for 700 dollars. You just gonna have to wait a while.
EDIT: Wait, Alan Wake 2 releases really soon. I guess I will just watch benchmarks. That will be some interesting stuff.
Yeah, once the 5000 series comes out and lazy devs now say you need a 4070 for 1080p 30fps with upscaling.
I can get a life for free....you can too...just step away from the PC and grab your jacket & keys.
NVIDIA fanboys really are brainwashed
I’m currently replaying Far Cry 4 with a 6700 xt in native 1440 at ultra, couldn’t be enjoying myself any more. I can’t believe that is not going to be the norm into the future
thats a very respectable way to play the game
Don't care. Mid or flop anyway.
Vex, just a heads up. AMD invited many game developers to test AntiLag+ and many refused thinking nothing would go wrong. Vanguard did invite many devs to test beta drivers, and many blew the team off. Also, it doesn't mess with game files. All it does is hook the I/O for video and input and then retunes the windows system timer to lower the latency using frame generation.
Also, normal AntiLag works the same way as AntiLag+ but without the tighter timings to the timer for frame generation, and doesn't get a ban.
You know What I dont care if a Game needs a 4090 for 1440p 30fps, But in that Reality a 4090 needs to be no more than $700.
If you're okay with a game requiring the fastest graphics card available to get 30 fps, you're mentally challenged...
@@DesroQccompletely agree
We need to see full list of graphical settings after release. If there will be a lot of stuff you can turn off or downgrade to low it could save the situation.
graphics card should just cost half as much as they do right now, that would certainly help, I think
people dont know how to do low level optimisation but they use dx12 anyway, this causes massive issues like how cyberpunk 2.0 optimisation tries causes negative results
I wonder when it happened that AMD and Nvidia decided to collectively screw their customer base over and over with pricing.
When the crypto bubble was at its peak.
I don't even know if the problem is solely in the chip manufacturers. Developers are just completely relying on upscaling and cutting optimization work out of their projects.
10:30 good luck hitting those enemies zooming around with 30fps and a blurry image.
I didnt really paid attention to it but ALOT of my friends actually bought an AMD Card as their new gpu.
Nvidia Cards, despite all their shiny Features, are just to expensive.
I paid around 360 bucks for an 6800xt, best deal of my life.
And before i get jumped by nvidia Fans, im not saying nvidia is Bad or smth, i used nvidia for pretty much all of my pc career for about 15 years.
But because of the pricing i tried AMD and im really happy with it.
Greetings from Germany, love your channel ❤
@@LTNetjakyou think? Me personally the only good cards recently are the 6000s from AMD nvidia does not have any good cards atm. And now people are saying 12gb vram is soon going to be the minimum and the new 8gb. Rn I'm hoping intel makes something amazing or do something with the a770!
amd sucks
good thing that i only play japanese games man. most of the games runs on a potato really well
4080S will probably MSRP at the current 4080 price. It will drive the 4080 price down through the stack. The 4080ti would slide in right between the Super and the 4090, driving down the resale price of the Super, and inflating the price of the 4090. Nvidia is on a warpath against their own company
As far as I understand the leaks, there won't be both a "Ti" and "Super" version at the same time. Only a single new 4080 will be released and it will be called either "Super" OR "Ti" (currently unknown).
I really hate the people always asking for better graphics, it’s just a shame to not be able to play 1440p 60fps with a 400€ GPU
When will we stop accepting that ? Why do we need that much graphic fidelity ? Like we’re in the middle of one of the worst inflation crisis and they have the arrogance of releasing something like that ?
Graphics will always evolve. They will never stay stagnant so u need to upgrade ur system once in a while
@@dante19890we're at a point of diminishing returns do you really pay attention to every particle and unnecessary reflection while playing? If yes, otherwise you might as well watch a tech demo
@@dante19890Most people upgrade on a 5-7 year cycle, this game is asking for 3-4 year old high end just to play at piss poor framerates at 1080p... and as GPUs have gotten more expensive and more and more people live paycheck to paycheck, telling them to just upgrade lol is kind of a dick move. Who's even gonna buy a game they can't run? I don't care if the devs claim "well our low settings are everybody else's high settings", that's a laughably bad take for everybody but those who want to force people to upgrade sooner (read: GPU companies, but primarily Nvidia). I honestly don't get the graphics push, games still largely look like shit, and now they also run like shit. Yay progress.
@@francisquebachmann7375 There is still a long way to go until we reach photorealism. The game graphics isnt gonna come to a standstill cuz u wanna have ur old gpu for the rest of ur life
@@astra6640 ITs just the reality of the situation.
We are in a new console generation now and games are being made with ps5 as base plattform targeting 30 fps.
So if u want game running at higher res and over 60fps u need a pc thats frankly 2 to 3 times faster than the ps5.
Nvidia is charging a premium for DLSS and Path tracing performance and it's pretty compelling when you look at CP77 FL and Alan Wake 2. However, I have always bought Nvidia but am now seriously questioning that choice. these prices are stupid.
$500 for a PS5 or $3.5k for a top-end PC is just not appetising anymore.
Especially when shit like Alan Wake 2 runs at 540p on both the console and your 3.5k system
Its simple
If this is how the game is going to perform when it releases, then i am going to pirate the game
im not going to even waste my time with it, but i fully support you in pirating it. this spec sheet is awfull
Funnily enough the GRE cards arent actually China exclusive as theres a place in South Africa that sells them, maybe they order them from China idk but they are available.
Looking forward to the core count video, especially since most of the games I play the most doesnt even touch more than 1-4 threads in total
Imagine a game using all the gpu and spreading the work load over all the cores and actually using more ram and having the direct storage feature
@@papichuckle Hahaha ikr! Imagine reviewers not getting blacklisted for focusing on single core boost and rasterization performance when those things actually still matter in the real world
@kvernesdotten that's why upscaling has become a requirement because alot of these engines and devs cant be bothered to have good multi core/threaded performance, they just all want us to have the best i9 cpu out because single core speed go vroom vroom
The Nvidia ARM chip thing has been in the works for years, something like since 2008. “Project Denver” was the first time they formally announced this to the public, I think. The only fruit of this project, however, were the Tegra processors, which is what is used in the Switch. Aside from that, they have Tegra-like ARM chips they use for server farms, but are not available for the average consumer. Been waiting on these forever on the desktop!
It simple, dont buy AW2.
Punish them and criticize, so the next time they will optimize their shit!
Remember the time when games were optimized to run on your hardware WITHOUT you making so many tweaks and concessions to frame rate limits? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Pc gaming is finished
Consoles be 30fps anyway
Nice try console peasant.
We(pc gamers) have heard that shit since the 90s. Yet, here we are.
@@captainheat2314lol he is spitting fact and I doubt he is console game and BTW the way you are talking about like you can...spoiler soon you cant
There's still eSports games, it will never die
No it's not, Steam Decks are the future 🙃
The problem is the game engine's that are being used. Optimizations are limited unless you dev your own engine and have full control of the render pipeline and game loop. And these engines are less code driven... they have literally become drag and drop... almost...
How is Alan Wake 2, a game where 95% of the screen is covered by darkness, requiring that much GPU power? Does it have anything to do with using 3700X CPU across all the tests? I mean I don't know anyone gaming with a 3700X and RTX4080.
Everyone should think of it this way. "If I can't play it, then I am not buying it." Studios will figure it out when they are trying to explain to the board members why there are not mountains of money to swim in like Scrooge Mc Duck.
I'm gonna go buy a 720p TV at this point to play all my games at native at a good framerate. We've regressed like 20 years lol.
CRT gaming bro. Clearly best
You become my go-to channel for tech/components news!
An Epic exclusive is pass alone add to it this requirements double pass
Why hate epic ? They are good
@@ChrisBrown-ir6sf they hate Linux gaming and steam deck, so no thank you.
@@PaperReaper who told u they hate linux gaming ?
@@ChrisBrown-ir6sf tim sweeney went on a rant multiple times on ex-twitter
Why hardware always get better and software optimization only gets worse? Devs are filling games with shit instead of clean the code?
The Antilag+ controversy is definitely AMD's mistake because they didn't communicate enough with the game developers of these e-sports games, but wow... what is up with Nvidia users jumping onto every opportunity to shame people, who simply had no idea that this would even happen? I really do not understand why both sides have these "apple vs android" type of arguments going on between each other, it's awful to see and makes my interest on PC hardware lower.
People get emotionally attached to their investmens (sunken cost fallacy is in play a bit here too), even if it isn't that expensive of a product you see this type of condescension
@@M_CFVits the confirmative bias because they dont want to think they wasted money
It's quite simple they intend to kill desktop gpus by upping the price, requirements for new games, etc...so in the next couple of years cloud gaming will be more"worth it" compared to GPU prices. It's a project to rip peoples ass without the need to logistic hardware to the whole world, and end pirates. The way i view it gaming will be almost exclusively over the cloud in the future, sadly.
I literally contemplated selling my PC when the specs for Alan Wake 2 got out. Still am. The experience we get is just not worth the investment and the hardware I overpaid for last year is considered not good enough. I'll just keep my PS5 and accept the shitty performance at 540p native because at least it is cheap.
dont accept it, dont buy the game at all. we dont want to support this to become the norm
Yeah just don't buy it. We have works of art that run amazingly well from 3-5 years ago. No need to swap from the best platform just to play their hot garbage
Sounds good in theory, does not work. For everyone who does not buy it, 10 others do because they dont know / dont care. The industry has to move forward at some point tech wise, but not at this expense. Ludicrous prices for barely midrange hardware and only to run at resolutions not acceptable in the PS3 era. Pathetic.
@@GameMaximum it says something when my RX 6750 XT cant run this game at more than 540p
I don’t care anymore.. I got a budget RTX 3050 6gb laptop. Hook it up to my QHD monitor. Been playing cyberpunk on high settings with DLSS quality at 1440p, cap it at 45 fps and having a blast! Got a series s too for games like the one mentioned in the video. If it runs crap on my laptop, then I’ll check the console version. I doubt it wil run like crap on a current gen console. As I grow up the more I realise that I have to be resourceful and not chase the greatest and latest. What does it matter anyway. Point is to have fun not to flex your graphics settings. Now in terms of the bad state of the newly released games such as cities skylines 2, I could care less.. I just won’t play them. I have a humongous catalog of games that I wanna play. Am I coping? Eh I don’t think so.. been saving my money for travelling!
Why make a game that only a few thousands of people with ton of money are able to play? Do developers not care about sales anymore? Is the pc market so miniscule to them that they only use it just to show off the latest graphics technology but not the actual game?
All I know is that this is the worst form of gate keeping, gate keeping people behind a wall called money, devs and people who talk about accessibility in games for disabled people but ignore the financial accessibility which is much more important are complete hypocrite, if You can't even play the game on your system how is that any different from making a game impossible to beat for disabled people?
The question is now whether or not there'll be DRM because that'll make it way worse!
imagine having a full spec pc (core 14th gen, 4090) takes more than 50kw of electricity just to complete a 100h game.
The power consumption has always left a bad taste for me. I actually stay away from it as much as possible
I imagie not caring about the electricity for someone who spent 1.5k + for a 4090. I'm using a 13600 and a 4090 and I don't really care.
@@technicallycorrect838 unless your parents pay your bill every month. no one is stupid enough buying 4090 just to game on it
@@MrAden1307 agree. current world situation is making the energy cost skyrocket and we are all suffering from it
@@tomraider099 I guess I am stupid enough... unlucky. I pay my own bills btw, don't have rich parents. Also my electricity provider curently charges me 11 cents per kwh.
Ikr.. why do dev pushed this visual graphics much.
The graphics look like any other good modern game, certainly don't warrant these specs. Companies do this because first and foremost, they get away with it because people buy it. Why spend the extra time and money to properly optimize a game when you can have upscaling tech do it for you and mindless consumers continue to buy your product anyway? Want them to improve? Vote with your wallet and tell them you're not buying their shit sandwiches.
Happy as a clam with my Red Devil 7900xtx. The longer I have it, the more I'm certain I made the right call not dropping another $600 on the Gucci card.
I bought my 7900 XTX OC hearing all the negatives from the Nvidia teams but honestly best card I ever owned. I use unity HQ assets 4k/8k skin textures on my models HQ reflections no issues. I could tell this card will carry me to 5yrs plus.
Alan wake, what are you doing? Even vrchat seems optimised in comparison
22hrs ago* they just dropped Alan Wake support for Nvidia 10-series and AMD 5000-series cards.
Edit: ngl Alan Wake 2 recommended is looking like an excused for planned obsolescences.
No amount of miracles could make the game run on a 1050/1060/1070 😂😂
@@SeparatiXz omg, wait till someone does 720P with Ultra performances FSR 😭
even if I had a 4090 I'd not buy alan wake, I cannot support poorly optimized games
The software is really ahead of the hardware atm
Which is what I can't stand.
@@Gamer-q7v it doesnt have anything to do with ur stance. Eventually hardware will catch up.
@dante19890 Not at this rate. Have you seen how much they have been trying to push these shitty software technologies, such as upscaling and frame gen? Why do you think the current gen midrange GPUs has been highly criticized? Because they have received lackluster hardware upgrades and even downgrades in some specs for stupidly high prices. They are cutting corners on the hardware, resulting in poor raw performance. Instead, they are using shitty upscaling and frame gen as the main selling points of their GPUs instead of making them faster. And developers are using them as a crutch to not optimise their games properly. This is literally killing PC gaming, and RUclipsrs such as Hardware Unboxed have pointed this out.
@@Gamer-q7v hate to break it to u but native res gaming is gone and will forever be.
Upscaling is getting better and better and developers are factoring it in to the performance and graphical budget while designing their games.
Hardware unboxed is wrong here, they are good at testing stuff but they have no clue about game development.
Upscaling techniques are not being used as a crutch after the fact to claw back performance they are being used as a foundation giving devs a higher rendering budget while designing their games.
@@dante19890 Native raw rendering will always be better than these gimmicks. Native resolution should never die, as there are many gamers out there who prefer native raw rendering. Who the fuck wants fake AI based software frames that are fucking garbage? People call out and criticise consoles for fake 4K gaming because they use upscaling, so it's not true 4K, which is true. PC gaming is doing exactly the same, though. This shit is exactly what's killing PC gaming.
Instead of innovating for higher resolution gaming, we are going back to 1080p for gaming. Pc gaming is fucked.
can't wait for 720p in 2024
i have read that low/med settings at alan wake 2 will be equivalent to high/ultra settings in other games. when the overall optic is fine than i am fine with that quite high hardware requirements.
The problem is not the settings in this game. It’s the settings alongside the mandatory upscaling. No matter how good dlss is, performance dlss at 1080p looks abysmal. Like smudge. Fsr is even worse.
@@KC80SiXExactly. No point in making a game with such heavy graphical effects if resolution will limit the image quality for 99% of users.
That sounds like a massive cope.
I am loosing all hope for modern games 😢 how they gonna sell this game if so demanding nobody gonna buy
Looking at these trends, it's better to get a console for gaming, as game developer really don't want PC gaming to thrive 😕
Can we not ignore the DDLC theme in the background 🤣
lol same 🤣
i mean NVidia has to be more expensive just because of the features you'll lose when chosing AMD.... but a 3060 Ti class GPU with 16GB for 500€ is ridiculous.
the 4070 Ti should be a 500€ GPU.
I die a little inside when seeing people recommend the 4060Ti 16GB.
Those fools could've had a 80 class card from the previous and current generation for the same price from AMD, the 6800XT and 7800XT.
Good Work Vex. Your Pc Hardware investigations always yield results. I am going to reccomend you for the You Tube Pulitzer this week. :D.
Thanks Man.
Just get a console at this point, this shit sucks.
It's not like consoles have it better. Modern games are struggling to run on them too. They often drop to 720p to maintain 60fps.
true honestly. that or time consuming and painstaking getting 2nd hand hardwares.
@@amromsr5463yea but if you just wanna enjoy games theres nothing like a console, dudes right, this is getting too much just to kick back
Bruh, I'm playing my old childhood Flash games and even games like Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition and Heroes ofight and Magic 3: Horn of The Abyss which just keep getting new stuff despite being older than me (they were both launched in 1999). I play these on my 2017 laptop Intel HD Graphics iGPU. Maybe that's just me because I pretty much like RTS and strategy games, but surely there are underrated old games and people simply need to look back a little and see the beauty of the old stuff.
The overhype over new games keeps the demand over new GPUs high regardless of how much they cost. DLSS, FSR and XeSS will be the new standard while I can chill while playing old games. The new games need a mass boycott to hammer companies into focusing on optimisation. This will make game engines also focus on optimisation and the prices for new GPUs would also come back to normal.
Can I just point out, Alan Wake 2 is THIS graphicly demanding and its not even a open world game, 99% of it is confined places with limited enviroment rendered yet THIS is the requirements you need for it? This is actually a joke.
😢
My predictions for Crysis 4:
Minimum specs for 1080p low quality: Ryzen 8950X3D or Intel 15900K + RTX 6090 Ti or Radeon 8900 XTX + 128 GB DDR5 + 900 GB SSD
Recommended: uh... quantum computer!
The best part about the intel situation is that they haven't had IPC gains since 12th gen
This was a well put video, much better than I thought, the thumbnail doesn't make justice to all the content of this video, just so you know you could use titles or thumnails to let us know is about more than one topic.
"i want shorter games with worse graphics made by people who are paid more to work less and i'm not kidding"
Game nowadays :
WORSE Graphic, visual effects, and physx compare to game from 2012
Require a SPACE STATION to run 720p
The thumbnail might be like a game from 2021 asking for a 2070 Super for the same settings.
I just put up a sheet with price and performance and just did a table division price/performance and sorted and the cheapest card on the market (per performance) would be the RTX4050, RX 7600 close second, 4060 third.. and.. well RX 570 fourth... Yea.. a card from 2017
Me with my good ol' 2060 : there is nothing we can do
A few things I gotta say about Alan Wake 2 PC requirements:
- If you need upscaling to move the game that's lazy optimization and no other excuse because an RX 6600 and RTX 2060 can move a game perfectly using UE5 without Ray Tracing.
- They don't really surprise me because that's what you have to expect from now on, games are gonna be made to make them move in a series s at least and that console has a GPU equivalent to an RX 6600 or RTX 2060 and the recommended settings will be equivalent to a PS5 and Xbox series s, basically something between an RX 6700 XT and RX 6800XT.
Yes, Remedy did lazy optimization for Alan Wake 2, they could have done better but they don't really surprise me because Alan Wake 2 is a next gen game, it is not made for a PS4 or Xbox one, it's made to make it move in at least a series s.
Simple solution mates. Don't buy this crap, imo the graphics don't look that impressive to justify the requirements. It's on the dev end.
4k fsr/dlss makes sense. Not 1080p fsr/dlss with a good gpu. This is getting to the point where poorly coded dx9 games have better optimization than current games.
Man that's PS Vita resolution experience we got there!
Thats an insult to the vita lol, at least the games didn't require upscaling
Nvidia's Tegra processors are ARM-based in Nintendo Switch and Nvidia Shield, and we know a new Switch is in the works. Similarly, AMD might be exploring ARM for the next Xbox, as the recent Microsoft link showed they were considering ARM. That might be bad news for future PC ports.
The "ARM's race" is fueled by investors. Won't make a dent in static gaming hardware. Portable gaming could see some innovation with Microsoft/Windows Arm projects, but they are mainly aimed at competing in the Chromebook market. Microsoft, like Nvidia mostly want to hedge on institutional clients versus general consumer. Apple is making ridiculous profit via their closed loop ecosystem and everyone is seeing the dollar signs and following. Unfortunately money and market moves guide the direction and progress of various goods and the general consumer has little power in this climate.
game spec sheets were never accurate for me. I think I can pull of high settings with my 6700XT and 5600X @1080p60
AMD is good choice for FPS.
NVIDIA is good choice for production.
Thats why Windows is expensive and Linux is free.
One makes money, another makes chaos.
Since when is the minimum system requirement 30 fps? The requirement was 60 fps for years.
The transition to 4K fixed-grid TV’s and monitors ten years ago was a big mistake
Cache size will be more important for gaming than core count. That's why buying the 7800x3d makes perfect sense if you ask me.
Upscaling is amazing, especially FSR which helps people with not so good PCs to play games at a stable 60 or more FPS, but now game devs think that optimization doesn't fucking exist
Its not fair to say that RISC CPU are bloat free.
What the do is that they execute every instruction in one cycle (well kind of sort of) but on the flip side they lack more complex instructions. This all over reduce the number of instruction making the ALU smaller, but it does make the code larger. That is not a huge problem. A other issue is that something that may take 3 or 4 instruction for a RISC CPU may only take 1 instruction for a CISC CPU. If the instruction is really good a CISC CPU can still process that instruction in 2 or maybe even 1 clock cycle. This makes it so CISC processors generally can run any code faster with the same core frequency. Back in the 90s due to how nodes work then RISC CPU often came with significantly higher core clock, but that is no longer the case.
For FPU instructions there really is not much diffrance between CISC and RISC. If you run FPU heavy code there is pretty much no diffrance. Actually you can use the same FPU on a RISC and CISC CPU. This is for example the case between Alpha RISC CPU and AMD k7 having the same FPU.
Also worth saying that while X87 code base is a specific FPU code base for x86 systems. Its very simple to convert FPU code. Its pretty much just a transfer table. This is diffrent from say converting ARM to x86 code that need to first be deassaembeled.
There are no games for RISC V...
Anti Lag is affecting Apex Legends too not only CS. :) my account was banned too any many others having the same issue, however Respawn said they are gonna look into this and unban everyone affected.
10:10 Ok looks nice but where is the DS that came out in 2019 and runs on and GTX 1650. Compare them and are there any improvements? (except in lighting but like this in models and textures) I really don't understand how a game can be so demanding. If you don't know what to do, ask Kojima to give you an engine to use.
I feel like the ting that sucks with amd is that they make cards with good specs but then there driver is always behind the one of Nvidia (ai upscaling for example) or am I ring about this? I wanna know bc I am looking to upgrade