The Return of Competitive Dorfball
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Michigan Super Smash Bros. Melee is known for its deep bench of incredible players, making it perhaps the Midwest's premiere Midwest region, but its culture goes beyond simply high level play. One of West Michigan's most storied traditions is Dorfball, a game featuring two Captain Falcons and a Level 1 Ganondorf CPU that has captured the hearts of dozens, and a mode that saw new life in 2023, culminating with its appearance at The Big House 11 as an official unofficial side bracket.
I spoke to members of the Michigan Dorfball community about the game and its history, and uncovered more of that history in the process. SSBM may never be the same.
This video was shot in part in-person at The Big House 11, and I did so with a pretty jank recording setup, so I tried my best to save the audio but it is not perfect.
Originally premiered during Galint Fall Open 2023.
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Really happy I could help out, and thanks so much for the awesome video!!
Play Dorfball!
pretty shameful video. ganondorf players are blatantly racist and deserve no attention in the smash community. thought we were better than this.
I just like that melee has two ball-shaped characters and they chose to use kick the shit out of the embodiment of evil instead
We Midwesterners love balls and hate evil, I don't know what to tell ya
Despite being Midwest and also a huge fan of silly side game modes in Melee, I've actually never played Dorfball before. Appreciate you continually chronicling Midwest Melee culture!
Also let's go Kaiser
Which Midwest state you reppin'?
@@EnergyBurst2 I've been Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana. I'm currently in Indiana so let's go with that
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Some of the most hype crowds I've ever been a part of were not watching regular bracket matches but rather with Dorfball. Try and get your local scene to run it as a side event so you can experience it :)
It's fast paced full of reversals and reverse hits which leads to dozens of KOs in minutes. It can be enjoyed at any skill level and doesn't need any mods **Ganon taunts** to be played!
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It pains me to see the hidden lore of Legalizing Jungle Japes smothered by the dorfball commitee. Wake up Sheeple! Learn the true history they don't want you to find out. FREEDOM FOR JAPES! Great video btw
4:50 Holy shit, that's my college scene! That was me and a friend on commentary. Honestly didn't think anyone would ever see those videos!
notice how there isn't any non-white people. it's a wonder why ganondorf players are so racist.
Kind of insane. Never expected to see GV getting a shout-out, haha.
I remember playing Dorfball at locals in West Michigan in 2017-18, never thought I'd see it years later at TBH with the same people from those locals like Anasazi, Woley and Nyte.
Playing at Grand Valley tourneys was always a highlight for me.
My local scene ran this one a while ago, seeing this is... making me want to host an event for it again. Great video!
WAIT!!! I'M COMMENTATING IN ONE OF THESE SHORT VIDEOS!!!
which one?!
@@wusstunes Around 4:50! Jeremy vs Darkgun with myself and my buddy Deor on commentary!
It's fun commentary! That was some of the more mysterious dorfball footage I found. Anasazi said the mode might have ended up in PM because of dirtboy, a Michgan PM goat, but I wasn't sure. @@GrissoAndShade
@@wusstunes Dirtboy was definitely one of those influences for it! Tbh, I feel Dorfball works a bit better in PM/P+ because of the larger stage variety it provides.
Shoutout to woley for the prestigious second place at bighouse in a side event maybe next year!
We used to play something like this at my dorm in college except it was Bowser instead of Ganon and you could play any character. Puff rest was broken, and fox could steal kills with his laser. Was a ton of fun!
What?! People trying to have fun with this game blasphemy.
Gotta find a way somehow lol
Upon finding out some people were enjoying their game, Nintendo shipped Miyamoto out personally to hand these people their cease and desist.
you think it's all fun and games until you find out that half of the ganondorf scene is filled with racist players with no regards for respect in the community.
4:06 "The game is a breeding ground for slapstick interactions, especially when it's ball." So true, Wusstunes, SO true.
holy shit ... why is the midwest the most INSANE region of super smash bros by far
this video is beautiful
We are built different.
they got nothing better to do, culture finds a way
midwest also has the most racists. not a surprise to see sports for one of the most infamous blackface characters in video gaming.
blackface...? if we're talking about ganondorf, i guess i can understand seeing his facial features and grey/green skin as a caricature but i don't think that makes it black*face*, he's just a demon king
as for the midwest: i cannot pretend to be knowledgable on this matter
We created a game about 17 years ago where you have 2 (or even 3) Kirby players and one Captain Falcon NPC. At the beginning of the game Kirbies compete to swallow the Captain Falcon in order to get the hat and the Falcon Punch ability. Only one Kirby is allowed to have the hat at a time, and that Kirby tries to get kills on the other Kirby (or Kirbies) with a Falcon Punch. Only kills with the Kirby Punch count. Killing the Captain Falcon doesn't count either. You can swallow the Kirby with the hat to steal the hat, but once a Kirby has the hat you can't swallow the Captain Falcon again until the falcon Kirby dies or the hat is lost.
To mix it up the falcon NPC could also be another player who tries to run away from the Kirbies
Yo wake up. The legend uploaded again
Dang, remember when Slippi Volleyball was a thing for like, 2 weeks over the pandemic? Dorfball is the true way forward for in-Melee sports.
I liked volleyball but it was hard lol! Loved watching good players make it work but it was way too much to keep track of for me to be able to do anything in it.
This actually sounds like a cool idea. I’m always looking for other game modes to mess around with. I think it helps a lot when one person in a friend group is way better in a game than the others, because then it isn’t lopsided.
GG Melee Plays Dorfball
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I love that smash caters to all sorts of crowds: competitive, casuals, and parties (either house rules or in game).
Never even knew that Dorfball was a thing. This is perhaps one of the most creative things in smash melee I've seen. It allows for player expressions with fancy combos and what have you.
I think this should be right there with those combo displays with smash64
that dept of energy rulemaking clip was a true master's touch
they were worthless so i had to ask jeeves, and he wasnt very helpful either! e
The name by itself is actually hilarious!
Legit going to play this with friends now
Lol you look like Peter Gabriel in his Genesis era a lot. Really great video as always
oh, cool. i played a lot of “smash-ketball” or whatever people called it back in brawl’s release, with it’s custom maps. cute that melee did something like that.
fun side-event
Absolutely love your videos. PLEASE keep it up. I never even knew this game mode existed haha
MICHIGAN MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOO
Michigan style dorfball is a beautiful phrase, and I hope this mode takes off.
WEST MICHIGAN GAMERs WHATS GOOD
Gonna introduce this to my friend group at lunch
Just wanted to let you know this video made me try it out, having not touched melee for years, and introduce it to my friend who's one of the better players in my country - we both had a blast!
never even heard of dorfball but it looks so fun. gonna try it tonight with a friend
we ran this at a London weekly once, but we used Kirby because he's ball shaped. Dorf seems better because he's not so light, loool
Yeah! That's a classic variant that seems to go further back.
I love game modes like this! I remember playing cactuar smash pancake with the best player in my region at one of my first local. Stuff like this is so good for 0-2ers to get into the scene.
I entered one CSP side event and I had no idea what was going on. Would like to understand it better lol.
@@wusstunes OH I just realized I got the name wrong its cactuar stamina pancake lol. Yeah its stamina mode and then there a bunch of rules. We used to play it pretty often in WI back in 2014-15. Honestly dont remember how to actually play its been years. For some reason I think we played on the mushroom kingdom stage that has birdo but I could be mistaken. Anyways there must be a smashboards thread on it somewhere.
This seems like a blast. I need to play this. Would be amazing if this was modded to keep score
"free for all dorfball" should just be called "full contact dorfball"
Actually yeah! In some of the interviews one of the things I thought was neat is that Dorfball with Team Attack Off is basically the only non contact sport version of Melee.
It’s me! SuperDry!!
I played west Michigan melee for years!
I had no idea Dorfball was a Michigan thing 😂😂😂
So cool to see you guys again❤
Hashslinging smasher 😂 Anasazi! God y’all are legends
Reminds me of the arcade game Deathball, looks like a 10/10 experience.
Poor Ganondorf, literally the punching bag of Smash :D
another wusstunes banger
I was just looking for ideas side-events for my next tourney. This is perfect. From now on Smash BXL in Belgium will have DORFBALL on the menu!
Does anyone have a link to that reddit post with other ideas for side-events?
great video!
Somebody show this video to Walt, he'll do a special on it, everyone will see it, and then we'll get it at more tournaments.
he's seen it
i love all of these goffy fun side modes/events tournaments do from time to time
sometimes they surpass the actual brackets in terms of fun to watch imo lol
great video we love dorfball
please never stop making good melee content
ok but im gonna make some bad stuff too for good measure
@@wusstunes as long as it's melee content homie keep it up you're goated
Obsessed w Woley's hair I wish I had it 🥺
So many Ideas.
Metal Giant Heavy Special Smash Sumo
Race around Hyrule Temple
Kirby, DeDede, and Wario’s Barrels Eating Contest
Played dorfball in ult at my local yesterday, highlight of my day for sure
Awesome! How did it work?
I see you with that RO music 👀
2v2 dorfball is possible in the newer games. HDR (an ultimate mod that plays similar to melee) has so far been incredibly fun to play and I highly recommend it.
have you played 2v2 dorfball then? sounds hype
@@wusstunes It is one of the most fun things I’ve done in the series lol
very cool! will have to try to get it going sometime.
I'm surprised I've never heard of this it looks so fun
that is certainly a way of saying Gerudo
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This looks sooooo fun
best vid already and i’m just watching the first ads
What an epic idea
The G in Gerudo doesn’t have the J sound
I'm well aware at this point lol
a gamemode we played is poketrainer battles. both pick ness and only pokeballs spawn with high spawnrates. u divide any stage by 2 to give each player a half. you can only use balls that are on your side or exactly on the object/ landmark that is the border betweeen your halfs. venom is the best map in my experience. why ness? coz you can hit balls with the baseball bat giving it another layer but it takes skill to pull of. variations like adding food or other specific items are possible to mix it up. just dont add to much or the gamemode suddenly is throw sh*t at each other
That's me Gary!!!
actually its only gary if its level 9. otherwise its just "sparkling ganondorf"
"jerudo"
Let's go Woley!
what if not 2 falcons? What would be the characters dorfball tier list? mewtwo? G&W?
they were saying falco would probably be good. i feel like falcon would probably still be the best at it.
Jer-oo-doh
Ganonjalf
W video
Pog I want to play this
I was almost in this video
I really wanna run this at my next local, but it seems really hard to keep score. Is it usually better to have the players keep track, or should I be in the back tallying up the points?
Usually the players just keep count themselves, though I've seen some stream setups where they keep a running count on the stream for both players.
juhroodoh
Saying “2015” and seeing the Reddit post say 8 years ago was heartbreaking 2015 was actually 8 years ago oh my god
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You looked cute by the way.
Would the game be as good in ult?
idk! i think the momentum/physics system in Melee/P+ does a lot to make modes like this feel kinetic and fun, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
This looks goofy.. 🤨
Algorithm food comment here
why isn't it called ganonball tho? smh
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korfball
The Rise, Fall, and Rise Again of being unoriginal and steal other youtubers title formats.
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ur hand weird sry
who gives a shit