You full independent suspension is a great idea it clearly give your argo a much smoother ride. and the added CV look like you get a bit more speed as well as. however your video only shows one side of the argo's ability. I'd like to see it driven in to a lake or pond some how I don't think your modified argo will float.
Salut, oui le Frontier de notre ami Spring fonctionne a merveille. Les dernières nouvelles que j'ai eu étais qu'il venais de fabriquer de nouveaux ''driving shafts'' plus robustes pour les Avenger avec des cheniles. Il a réaliser 1 ou 2 autres conversion depuis et son produit s'améliore toujours.
Hello RockDoctor, thanks for your nice comment, yes the suspension is ajustable via large nuts on the bottom of the chocs absorber. The coil is compress to accomodate the bigger load, it can be done really easily. Martwell
@ArgoUTV Merci beaucoup, mes amis travaillent tres fort sur ces suspensions et ça donne de tres bons résultats.... Nous allons en sortie ce week-end et nous allons prendre d autres vidéos dans les sentiers... Martwell
Very interesting but also with many challenges. How is the proejct going? Any progress? Innovations? I am worried about wooden logs getting in between the wheels and damaging the suspension and other parts.
Your making an Argo for the exact opposite terrain it was designed for. Don't get me wrong I love it. Argos didn't need suspension, because the are made to operate in very soft terrain.
I agree, adding complexity did not improve anything these were built for. Just made breaking down more probable. Aggressive tracks on an 8 wheel are tough to beat.
Can you still put tracks on it for deep mud and snow? Let's see some videos with tracks on it!! Can it still swim in the water? How durable is your suspension if you bump a front tire against a tree or large rock?
Yes my buddy has already made a Conquest and for a Bigfoot it can be adapted eaily. I think that the widht si 6-8 inch more on each side. if i remember well
I can appreciate the work here. With the 8 wheel models in rough terrain-turning on a slant is impossible to keep the track on, as the wheels walk off the track or the guides dig into the tire and puncture it. Better off with two half tracks. Since u are putting in the effort have u thought about offering a track model argo only, a track like on a excavator, 24 inches wide-deep lugs guided by one sprocket, eliminating the weight of the other driven axles, they would only be guided in the track
Is this a kit that is for sale? How much if for sale? Where can I see more? Disadvantages, I see weight, how much more weight? When the suspension bottoms out it looks like (with a track on) it will rub the under carriage. Do the new U-joints break? It is an obvious advantage for traction because all tires are on the ground but does this make it harder to turn? You put a lot of work into this and I have put a lot of work into mine, trying to keep the tracks on the 8 wheel model...continued....
Very impressive. What did the shock your using come off of? What weight setting is it at? Any way I could get you to send me a closeup photo of that suspension with a tire taken off? Thank you.
@dedwards8708 Hello Dedwards, yes it's swimming... The kit for a 8x8 weight around 200 pound if i remembre well... The big difference is the smoothness in roff terrain... Martwell
It should float just fine - without looking at it closer - it would only make sense that instead of a hub - it had a shortened axle and a CV coupler - I couldn't see this costing any more than 200 - 300 per axle to fab up. Im still puzzled why some of you think it would not float. One comment " So much for being amphibious, how are you going to seal it where the suspension has to travel. Hope you figured that out. Definitely worth the try" ..Your not thinking about this correctly . The CV is outside the body so the travel is all outside so the travel is all done outside the body
Does it work with the 18 inch tracks. Thats excellent that it is still amphibious. How about in the slush in snow in the winter. I know quads with the track kit usually blow cv boots due to ice build up. Any problems with slush ice build up in the suspension parts? Thanks for the reply
Nice, but not so sure that is a good idea. Adds a lot of weight. The original idea is to float. If your on hard ground you should probably use a ranger.
Exactly,the rough ride and poor handling have been a turn off for me. The older I get the better I like a soft ride. I cringe watching people bounce in the seat. I've spent a lot of time on tractors;has anyone though about just putting an air ride seat in one. It would be easier and cheaper than putting shocks on the axles.
The reason I though of the air ride was two fold; no shock to the spine and the addition of the air compressor that could be used on the seat and for tire infaltion. It works great on tractors you have about six or eight inches of travel on the seat.
@@martwell19 Really? you have a video that shows this? How are Tracks on it? How long so you think it will last? How much harder is it on the drive train? I do like the idea if it is really a good product that's why we ask questions 🙂
You full independent suspension is a great idea it clearly give your argo a much smoother ride. and the added CV look like you get a bit more speed as well as. however your video only shows one side of the argo's ability. I'd like to see it driven in to a lake or pond some how I don't think your modified argo will float.
Salut, oui le Frontier de notre ami Spring fonctionne a merveille. Les dernières nouvelles que j'ai eu étais qu'il venais de fabriquer de nouveaux ''driving shafts'' plus robustes pour les Avenger avec des cheniles. Il a réaliser 1 ou 2 autres conversion depuis et son produit s'améliore toujours.
Hello RockDoctor, thanks for your nice comment, yes the suspension is ajustable via large nuts on the bottom of the chocs absorber. The coil is compress to accomodate the bigger load, it can be done really easily.
Martwell
@ArgoUTV Merci beaucoup, mes amis travaillent tres fort sur ces suspensions et ça donne de tres bons résultats.... Nous allons en sortie ce week-end et nous allons prendre d autres vidéos dans les sentiers...
Martwell
Very interesting but also with many challenges. How is the proejct going? Any progress? Innovations? I am worried about wooden logs getting in between the wheels and damaging the suspension and other parts.
Your making an Argo for the exact opposite terrain it was designed for. Don't get me wrong I love it. Argos didn't need suspension, because the are made to operate in very soft terrain.
Argos are made for all terrain. You don't know much do you?
I agree, adding complexity did not improve anything these were built for. Just made breaking down more probable. Aggressive tracks on an 8 wheel are tough to beat.
you're
Outstanding :-)
How will it work with a heavy load? Is the suspension adjustable?
RD
Very, very, Cool! How does it swim?
Is it still water tight
I’d like a suspension system for my Max 4
Very nice dude! That is some good engineering :) . What type of cv shafts did you use?
Can you still put tracks on it for deep mud and snow? Let's see some videos with tracks on it!! Can it still swim in the water? How durable is your suspension if you bump a front tire against a tree or large rock?
Yes my buddy has already made a Conquest and for a Bigfoot it can be adapted eaily. I think that the widht si 6-8 inch more on each side. if i remember well
this system is put to the test right now in Québec Canada. The manufacturer is installing these kit himself because it need ajustments.
I can appreciate the work here.
With the 8 wheel models in rough terrain-turning on a slant is impossible to keep the track on, as the wheels walk off the track or the guides dig into the tire and puncture it. Better off with two half tracks.
Since u are putting in the effort have u thought about offering a track model argo only, a track like on a excavator, 24 inches wide-deep lugs guided by one sprocket, eliminating the weight of the other driven axles, they would only be guided in the track
upgrades are still ongoing on these kits. I'LL keep you informed as i got some prices info
Is this a kit that is for sale?
How much if for sale?
Where can I see more?
Disadvantages, I see weight, how much more weight? When the suspension bottoms out it looks like (with a track on) it will rub the under carriage.
Do the new U-joints break?
It is an obvious advantage for traction because all tires are on the ground but does this make it harder to turn?
You put a lot of work into this and I have put a lot of work into mine, trying to keep the tracks on the 8 wheel model...continued....
not for now. These are installed by manufacturer only and are still tested in all possible terrain condition
impressive! can you run tracks with it as well ?
You would need a driven axle in the rear as well, eliminating the two driven center wheels
@balkrist Hello Balkrist, yes you can run rubber tracks with this kit, it work the same as the regular machine.
Martwell
Very impressive. What did the shock your using come off of? What weight setting is it at? Any way I could get you to send me a closeup photo of that suspension with a tire taken off? Thank you.
yes you can run track with the suspension
Très innovateur, beau travaille !!!
Quelle est le cout ?
Comment la suspension pèse t'elle ?
Oui vous pouvez installer des chenilles avec la suspension
So much for being amphibious, how are you going to seal it where the suspension has to travel. Hope you figured that out. Definitely worth the try
If I knew the u-joints were made of tungsten carbide, I might think that it could handle the sustained torque of tracks... especially in snow. o.O
Shock are design only for this machine. You can see pics at sentier 6x6 com on a post name ''argo avec une suspension''
@dedwards8708 Hello Dedwards, yes it's swimming... The kit for a 8x8 weight around 200 pound if i remembre well... The big difference is the smoothness in roff terrain...
Martwell
If you were ever to sell kits for argo's like this, do you think you would have an idea how much you would like to sell one?
It should float just fine - without looking at it closer - it would only make sense that instead of a hub - it had a shortened axle and a CV coupler - I couldn't see this costing any more than 200 - 300 per axle to fab up.
Im still puzzled why some of you think it would not float. One comment "
So much for being amphibious, how are you going to seal it where the suspension has to travel. Hope you figured that out. Definitely worth the try" ..Your not thinking about this correctly . The CV is outside the body so the travel is all outside so the travel is all done outside the body
Cześć, pojazd skręca tak samo dobrze jak na sztywnym zawieszeniu ? Tak samo się nim kieruje w zakrętach ? Pozdrawiam
Does it work with the 18 inch tracks. Thats excellent that it is still amphibious. How about in the slush in snow in the winter. I know quads with the track kit usually blow cv boots due to ice build up. Any problems with slush ice build up in the suspension parts?
Thanks for the reply
Est ce que le système va pouvoir recevoir des chenilles?
Do they make a suspension system for max Aatv's?
how much does it cost to do this with and 8 wheeler
where can I purchase a system like this and how much does it cost
Can you buy the suspension as a kit?
Is there a suspension kit for a max 4?
Ça coûte combien la conversion suspension pour un argo 8x8 ça m'intéresse?
Nice, but not so sure that is a good idea. Adds a lot of weight. The original idea is to float. If your on hard ground you should probably use a ranger.
Don't get me wrong the lack of suspension on them is what turns me off. I couldn't take that pounding for long. If it works well it's a good idea.
Exactly,the rough ride and poor handling have been a turn off for me. The older I get the better I like a soft ride. I cringe watching people bounce in the seat. I've spent a lot of time on tractors;has anyone though about just putting an air ride seat in one. It would be easier and cheaper than putting shocks on the axles.
The reason I though of the air ride was two fold; no shock to the spine and the addition of the air compressor that could be used on the seat and for tire infaltion. It works great on tractors you have about six or eight inches of travel on the seat.
An air ride seat doesn't even work that good in a big truck.
no CV shafts, small driving shafts
un homme qui a frabriquer sa vien du quebec
I bout an Argo to go through swamps and across lakes!! You have compromised this and is rendered Useless in my opinion 🙂
The Argo is still fully amphibious without any other hole in the tub that the ones from the factory.
@@martwell19 Really? you have a video that shows this? How are Tracks on it? How long so you think it will last? How much harder is it on the drive train? I do like the idea if it is really a good product that's why we ask questions 🙂