Correction: Hello everyone I made a mistake in my sensor size 36X24 milliemeter sonsor. That is not the size and is indeed the size of full frame. The sensor size is actually 43.8 X 32.9 i.e. medium format. Sorry about that.
@@JacquesGaines There are just fewer native lenses for GFX 50S (one out, one on the way). You'd have to adapt someething if you wanted anything shallower than f/2 (and that's only available in 110mm).
KruiserIV Thank you ,some peoples can’t get that through their head that anything larger then full Frame is considered medium format even film size 120. From all the information I read from Fuji this camera even though it can be used in a studio and is capable of video ,that is not where focus is on this camera which is primary for still frames shooters.
I think Fuji shouldn't invest in Full Frame because it's saturated and they dont have the lenses. I think they just should update the sensor of the GFX50R and increase the gap between this model and full frame. Make it more competitive on the other features and more affordable. They CAN do that. I would jump to medium format the next day, No brainer.
The key advantage of the GFX-50s or GFX-50r over a 'full frame' camera with the same MP count, as you pointed out, is the better dynamic range and noise handling due to the pixels being larger. I also agree the 50r & 50s are more suitable for landscape/cityscape photographers that want/need the extra detail but not the speed of your average DSLR/mirrorless. That's always where medium/large format has historically found its place. The real elephant in the room is the GFX-100. You can literally cut 1/4 from a GFX-100 file and still have a 25MP image that is incredibly clean. Commercial product photographers shooting things such as silo's for catalogs/E-commerce can simply crop detail shots from broader images, reducing shoot times and post production. Given the declining 'per item' rates for such shoots, an investment in the GFX camera system can pay for itself rather quickly through increased output. For that kind of work sync speed isn't really an issue either as it is typically done in a controlled environment under constant lights. For me personally, shooting corporate headshots that are rarely viewed much larger than an iPhone screen, I have no need for the GFX(or any MF) nor a full frame version of the X-T series. My X-T2's(or even X-T1's before I upgraded) handle the work I do just fine. Were I shooting makeup ads for Estee Lauder or Chanel, where the final images are EXTENSIVELY manipulated and high MP count really shines, the GFX-100 would certainly deliver(but we are still talking a controlled environment and constant lights). None of that is to say I wouldn't take a GFX(50 or 100) if you somehow managed to get your hands on one for a giveaway 😉😉😉.
I disagree with some points. FF market is too overcrowded, and with technology keep going forward, one day we will have a affordable, full functioned medium format Fuji camera, and when FF hits its limit, the path of MF cameras will keep going.
After watching the video I’m very surprised that he would even take his time with this Camera. I shoot a Canon35mm camera and full Frame digital camera they are not the same.Not by a long shot and they are not supposed to be.
I have the GFXR in fact I have 2 of them. I've studio and travel photography with it and I really enjoy it quite well. I've got most of the GF lens and find them very very good. I am a retired commercial photographer and I specialised in Hotels and resorts. When I worked I used mostly Nikon D850 and some times a 4x5 film camera so I kinda know what I'm doing. I find the Fujifilm system just perfect for my needs. My other camera I love is the new Fujifilm Xpro3 with Leica M lens
This is definitely a niche market. However, with the gap of APSC and full frame being so close now days, I kind of just see these as their full frame cameras. I use my XT cameras professionally for speed and and video. But when I need resolution I use my GFX 50R. The flash sync hasn't been a hindrance really at all. I've rented out Sony's and Nikon's and canons and the images just don't seem to look the same to what I want. There's some weird X factor with larger sensors that I just love. Cost wise people look at the body cost and think it's super expensive to get into. But when comparing the price of a body and lens(especially with how many sales there are) the cost is comparable to a Sony body and lens, and amazingly sometimes can be cheaper. Also, it's a super light medium format for trekking around for landscapes. I took it on an Iceland trip recently and the files are just sublime.
I ordered a 50R recently from B&h for $3500. It is on backorder so I'll have it in a couple weeks. I was able to purchase the GFX 50mm brand new from a guy on CL for $650. Not bad. My thought is that yes in a way it is a niche camera. So if u are only going to own one camera then this is prob not the right camera. But I already have a 5D Mark IV which I love and I consider it a jack of all trades master of none. The 50R will be a great camera as long as you have another system that can handle the scenarios where the 50R doesn't excel. I also love the idea that my GFX lenses will work on the GFX100 so if I ever do decide to rent one I will already have lenses for it.
... as a owner of a GFX X and 5 lenses I love to take pictures and and enjoy doing it...! I liked to watch your video... but not the conclusions... it is a subjective matter...! And please Fuji, do not listen to suggestions... I love my camera and I do not want or will buy a full frame (I have an old Canon DI x which I hate!!!)
The part about wishing for a full frame is indeed a personal wish. The last thing I want to do is say that Fuji is no good because they do not make a full frame camera
@@gozoomdaddy thanks Kevin... I like the file that come from my GFX and it is a pleasure to photograph with it... I do not say it is the best...just that it works the way I like... People even comment it's just to show off...I do mainly landscape...so I go at early hours to crazy, cold, windy places...where there is nobody to "exhibit my big trendy camera..." Blessings and stay safe...and let's enjoy our hobby...!
The GFX line is exceeding FUJIFILM’s expectations in terms of sales. I don’t believe it’s intended to be a volume sales leader, but it is doing very well. There seems to be a growing market and if the GFX100 is any indication of things to come, the next 50 series will be even more ‘snappy’ and feature laden. A bit of an Oxymoron, as MF has always been about slower subject matter, but FUJIFILM is breaking conventional MF thinking with the GFX line. I think it’s a brilliant strategy. There is profitability in niche’ markets.
The last time I spoke to a Fuji X photographer (whom I will not name) I was told that the whole idea of making money on the whole photography line is just not the goal. At the top (corporate top I mean), Fuji has a whole bunch of passionate photographers with the power to make good photography decisions. I am told that they are given "carte blanche" on how, when, where, and who to sell their cameras to. I did mention a financial argument in my video but, in the end, I do not think it matters much. Conclusion? These fantastic cameras will continue to get made in the near and far distant future. One big point I did ignore in this video and should not have is that Fuji made the idea of a sub 5000$ medium format camera a reality and that is not something to ignore.
Why 1/125 is such a big deal, specially now a days when low-end to high-end strobes all do HSS. I say this as a GFX50s shooter who shoot mostly outdoors with strobes and haven't run into any problems with the slow sync speed. Would I like 1/1000, sure ((waiting for global shutter), but most FF only do 1/200.
I agree that HSS is out there but the setup of hss is another layer to the already complex technique of studio flash photography (that can go bad). I do not think the camera sucks because it has 1/125th but I truly am disappointed. Especially after being spoiled with 1/250th that the XT2 and XT3 had offered
I have both XF series with 56mm f1.2 and GFX with 110mm f2 and GFX is way up there specially for someone doing portraits. HSS requires nothing from the photographer except press HSS button my Godox. You can also shoot full TTL which also works pretty good. Now for speedy AF, I will take XF but not for the sync speed.
The 1/125 debate is really a dead criticism. It’s just one stop of light we’re talking about here. Either open up your aperture or increase your ISO. If you don’t want to do that then try using HSS. Don’t have HSS? Try using a ND filter. Don’t want to use ND, look at getting a leaf shutter lens. There are enough options.
Thanks for posting this review, much appreciated. I noticed during the part where you brought up the image on your computer and lightened / brightened it (as it was too dark) I noticed that you mentioned you shot the image at f/22 (?) whereas you usually would shoot at f/11 or f/14....and I wondered why...? But then I thought, ....oh, he needs that small aperture to get rid of ambient light in the studio, because of the 1/125th sync speed. True? Thanks again for the helpful review.
unbelivable how far fuji has come with their medium format mirrorless. 1/125 isnt great to sync a flash, but its impressive when u think how much bigger this shutter have to be. hasselblad x1D doesnt have a mechanical shutter (leave shutter in the lenses) so if flash photography is very important to you, u can use the hasselblad with their leaveshutter lenses - u can go up to 1/2000 with ure flash there. to me, the fuji was the much better option. i can adapt canon ef lenses with autofocus via techart adapter, and because of the mechanical shutter in the camera, i dont get the problems of the electronic shutter. my canon 85mm 1.2 gives me pictures like a 70mm 0.95 - difficult to get something like this on a full frame with autofocus. the vigniette is easy to correct in lightroom, but the corners arent very sharp. i use this for the cool look and the bokeh, not for the ultimate sharpness. if u want sharpness and quality u can get this with some of the gf lenses. i liked it so much when fuji went for medium format instead of full frame, like nearly all other camera companies. do we really need so many mirrorless full frame camera companies? leica, panasonic, sigma, nikon, canon and sony - some of them using the same sensor in their bodies. if i had to guess, i think nikon sigma and panasonic will get some problems to survive in this shrinking market. fuji will grow more and more, when professionals want to seperate themselves from all beginners who can easily afford full frame. some will go medium format, and fuji can offer them a good system. if u see the canon R5 costs 4000 dollars - i bought a used Fuji gfx 50s for 2300... and i think the quality of my camera is little better. ofc R5 is much more versatile and better in lots of situations...
Nice review! I think your conclusions are spot on. It is more of a natural light camera for those that are looking for amazing resolution. That’s why I bought the 50R. I don’t think it can compete in features and speed with the best full frame cameras though... But in my case, speed and features are not that important. Another big plus for going GLX are the GL lenses. The quality of Fuji glass is really very high...
Nice review, but I bet these cameras will soon catch up to the XT-3 features and performance on the next or uber-next version. Oh, and did you say the sensor was 36x24mm (aka full frame)? I’m quite sure it’s bigger. Anyway, thanks for the detailed and thoughtful review.
Jacques Gaines You said “Active sensor area is 36 by 24 millimeter”. Check again. I listened to it 3 times to make sure I wasn’t missing a correction bullet in the corner or simply mis-hearing.
I know it’s been 4years you done this review on the Fuji gfx 50r and I greatly appreciate your in-depth on the 50r-but I disagree with you on Fuji should make a full frame. Sony, Nikon,Canon already has that market taken care of. Fuji decision to compete with Hasselblad and Phase one was absolutely the right way to go-that’s because they know that those medium format had weakness and they didn’t have any competition. Plus someone like who came from medium format film is very very thankful for Fuji making the GFX line and brought the price to we’re I can afford one. Fuji made my dream come true.
The GFX50R would be the perfect landscape camera for me but I would need to win the lottery to afford both the camera and lenses, and the travel to make use of it. For now I will settle with my X-E2 and driving around Nova Scotia.
As a fellow Fuji lover I appreciate your take on this camera. I would love to have it but I agree it is definitely a niche camera so would not be practical for me to spend my money on it. If as you say Fuji would develop a FF camera I would be all over it.
I love my 50R with the 3 native Fuji lenses I have and with some Canon glass I've adapted especially my 24 TSE II I do a lot of on location environmental portraits and love the handling and of course the image quality in combination with my Flashpoint strobes for HSS -- my top wish for Fuji if they can improve via firmware: AF in continuous (if the subject is static which is most of the work I use it for it's actually extremely accurate for me), if the could add the prism they have in the XT3 for manually focusing, the APP is horrible compared to Canon and I don't like to shoot tethered especially since I shoot on location etc. and I really hope they add Eterna and the newest situation the xpro3 has. All in all for my commercial work it's been pretty fantastic and that 110f2 is something else
I think, a new affordable full frame medium format with fast accurate focus, despite only small mega pixels will be a better contender to 35mm full frame cameras.
This is a reason why I'm considering holding off on the 50R. Like you said, it's a first generation camera. What will come out next? But... body is only $3500 currently. Tough decision.
You should be using Capture 1 for better results to really show what the GFX can do. Micro tonal and micro contrasts are so much better than any full frame.
I think a lot of reviewers miss the boat on this...if you like the fujifilm interface...this is the next step up...people keep comparing gfx line with full frame Sony's ....xpro and xt users wouldn't be looking at Sony it's an entirely different ethos ...
I agree with you 100% but I guess my point was to say that the ethos for the GFX line is absolutely credible, plausible and worth a look. I just think that it is a small niche where the argument to go there is counter argued by the full frame offerings. A full frame will NEVER touch that medium format look but, in 2019, it is coming awfully close.
i have the 50r and d850 and d810 the Nikons is way better all around camera but the 50r has the best image output no doubt. but is the 50r a real 51.4MP camera when my d810-36mp has bigger jpg files about 24-32mg and my new 50r is from 21-26mg i dont belive it is 51.4mp cant be, the 50r has more pixels biger sensor but smaler files files ?
Are you saving as RAW compressed lossless or RAW uncompressed. That will definitely change your file size though. Please get back to me on this. I am curious
I wish we could switch out videos like on Vimeo. But YT does not allow for that. Anyways. Thank you. I'd rather people correct than let these mistakes go ignored. Cheers
I looked at the Fuji camera in a recent camera fair in New Delhi. For me it is clunky & I prefer the FF option of sony a7r4 wherein the processing is more rounded - better video -EVF and much more flexible to use. I do fine art work so I appreciate the high MP but the slightly larger sensor also means having a limited range of lenses - heavier - less ergonomic etc. With the E mount I have a much larger lens range including adapting manual focus lenses from different formats - medium format included. Sensor processing has improved so much that the slight increase in sensor (FF =0,8 aprox) is negligible in terms of the overall performance. I have had the a7r4 since a couple of wks & the detail that it gives is impressive - I doubt that I would get significantly more. The EVF is also better which is a huge plus for manual focus. Fuji has brought out a 100mp update but it is heavier - clunkier and much more expensive.
@@JacquesGaines Maybe a very niche clientale perhaps for studio work. FF there are too many options & they would have to cut into their aps-c line for which they have so many lenses & it is a much more evolved system
6:23 the slow flash sync speed is not foolish it is the only possible.... you got a big sensor and therfore a big shutter. There is material to move and mass to be accelerated or decelerated. This is the reason why full frame cameras got commonly 1/200 sync speed and crop sensor cameras 1/250. The mechanics are just smaller. The other way around would be a leaf shutter in the lens which makes things less affordable. Modern leaf shutter lenses go up to 1/1400 and also by design leaf shutter can sync the flash at any speed. But then you arrive in the phase one / hasselblad price range. That is the main difference. I believe that with an adapter you can use older H series hasselblad lenses and their fuji equivalents and take advantage of the leaf shutter, but I am not sure about that. I'd love a video on that.
Your right fuji won't make money on fullframe..its been dominated by other brand so far instead take that money to improve your med format...dont do it Fuji..I'm afuji shooter my self..landscape and nature is the love of my life ..amen..dont lost your money..
Using the GFX50r is like using a Leica M. It's not rational. It's looking for a slower way of shooting. A kind of handmade photographies. However, I must admit that FF like S1r, SL2, Z7, EOS-R5 (or even the awful ergonomics A7RIV) are better rational choice from now on. All these cameras are powerful, war machines, but are they charming ?
I agree with your assessment on use in-studio, and perhaps the shutter speed limitation is the size of the sensor + a mechanical focal plane shutter. Other than a Pentax 67, every other medium format camera I've owned had a leaf shutter which isn't speed limited by travel distance. If I recall correctly, the in-body shutter sync on the Pentax 67 was actually 1/30! Though Pentax did offer the 90mm leaf shutter lens for the system. If you can convince Fujifilm to make a FF camera great! But I don't think I'd buy one. I find the FF market at the moment to be a feature race not unlike the same competition that happened in APS-C in the early to mid-2000s. I guess what I value most is a camera that has the ability to capture very good image quality while getting out of my way. I may hold a minority opinion on this, but the advantage of 10 to 15 more megapixels or 2X faster eye focus is lost on me if I need to grab a roadmap and pack a lunch to travel through a (bloated?) menu system to locate and adjust important but secondary settings. My current experience with Fuji APS-C and landscape / travel suggests that the 50R could be the experience I prefer, with a larger sensor and its benefits, for about $1,000 more than the A7rIV and lens. That said, I've got about $250.00 left in my 2019/2020 camera budget. Anyone have a spare $5,798 they'd be willing to toss my way? :)
Sorry I cannot help you on the money thing but yes. I agree on your point about the spec wars but I still think that if you look at all of this in a marketing approach, it would make sense to develop a FF just to stay alive. But yes the Fuji APS-C line delivers but can you imagine some of the beastly features of an XT3 on a FF? What I should have mentioned in this video was that I just love the Fuji approach and would be oh so curious to see how they would implement this in a full frame context.
A lot of the features of the APS cameras are not available on larger sensors of the same generation due to simple facts like signal run time on the sensor and mechanical shutter travel time. Worth looking into, Jacque, to put some of the design decisions you mention into perspective.
Agreed. But that same argument goes for FF versus MF. MF seems to be the tipping point as to how a camera gets "clunky" because of sensor size. You'd better need that extra oumph that MF offers you.
It so good that I have 2 with 5 lens. Took it to Mongolia for three weeks shooting horse and the reindeer herders. If you would like to see some the image let me know. I would be more than happy to share it with you .
I disagree with your assessment on comparing full frame to medium format. There is a noticeable difference in image quality. Even if you have a 100mp FF images go against a 50mp MF image the details in the MF image will be a lot clearer. The bottleneck in full frame images are the lenses. They just can't resolve enough detail onto the sensor so FF will never be able to be as clear as MF. Canon did something really interesting with the new RF mount making it bigger and brining it closer to the sensor. The new RF glass creates images with astounding detail but even those images don't compare with MF.
All excellent points. But here is a small question for you. Who will see the *difference between and RF and a medium format?* _(especially with RF being really amazing-for full frame obviously)_ the next question is. Is the difference worth the price? I do not know the answer as I know that RF lenses are getting strikingly close in price to GF lenses. Just putting that out there.
Doubtful that Fuji will make a FF mount; that market is simply overcrowded. Now, with CaniKon and Pany entering the FF mirrorless arena, I guess it's a little bit too late for that. Agin, that would be nice, but it's doubtful. For months I'm trying to force myself to buy this camera, but I simply can't justify the cost, at least not right now. It's an amazing system, able to adapt both many FF lenses and many if not all MF lenses...
I think that unless you're looking at actual full frame medium format offering from Phase One, this 'APS-C'-digital-medium-format loses the traditional edge of bigger sensors vs FF offerings but this is mostly to do with the new generation of FF mirrorless lenses. The wide open look, the clarity and the sharpness you get with modern lenses is really THE game changer. Sensors, less so. This, combined with just plain ease of use in handling a smaller camera, like you say, made me move away from digital medium format.
I think the gfx 50 cameras are more about access to the lenses. The high usability body is the 100. The 50 bodies will soon be the casual beginner bodies. Let's see when the super blowout sale happens,in a kit with the 50mm "pancake" lens.
The real question would be, why are you reviewing the previous generation of MF Fuji and not the GFX100 that addresses most of 'problems' you are referring to. Also when it comes to MF, I still wonder why wouldn't you just shoot film and scan with a drum scanner or the hasselblad flextight and just enjoy quality and life, without complications :).
@@JacquesGaines That's a bit cheap of Fuji, having just one of those to loan out :). I hope you get your hands on it and do another review. Btw, I agree that the 50 feels outdated compared to the Lumix S1R, the Z7, or the A7. However I would say the 100 feels very much relevant. I even started wondering what I would do with one and an adapter for my CZJ/KMZ lenses for P6/Kiev60. Of course at that price point I can just buy a drum scanner (and a second one for parts) and not only scan my MF film, but actually turn that into a good scanning business with the recent film revival :). I just have to check under the couch cushions for a spare $10K.
Why would you even mention the frames per second. When no one familiar with medium format camera’s know you do not buy it for frames per second you buy it for image quality. I’ve only watched a few reviews where the frames per second have not been mentioned by photographers who should know better.
I am aware. I just thought that it might be good to mention for those who might not know that the fps is low. with the fps monsters that come out these days, one can easily assume that you get at least 6 or 8. Trying to make sure that I covered all the angles. Cheers!
@@JacquesGaines When you gonna make a comparison with other cameras then it should be with a medium format. I shoot with a Pentax 6 x 7 and I’ll had them for years. Not once have I ever even thought about praying for a second I made a comparison with my canon 35 mm or DSLR. Thank you for your response we just have different opinions.
Why are you worrying about the commercial side of things? You really had a needless rant on a beautiful piece of technology that Fuji has finally given general public access 2, The fact that you compare a GFx to a Sony kinda sums up what you see as a photographer, which judging by your edits is pretty boring and flat.
Hello. As for the rant I was simply looking at what I think is the commercial reality of things. I really do enjoy the camera. Also, when somone critiques my work, I always ask for them to let me see theirs so I can get some perspective. Can you give me a link to an Instagram or a Flickr or a webpage please?
Not yet but you can customise every filmsimulation i have made one on my gfx that looks like polaroid camera images and i saved it as Polaroid it looks so cool
I started watching this video, stopped then came back to it, immediately re starting your general opinion is that it's only old codgers who have used MF all their lives that will be interested in this camera, what ignorant rubbish, and typical of today's market that has grown increasingly obsessed numbers, is the dynamic range big enough, how many features are in it, is the iso range too big/small, can you shoot fast with it, does it have this or that, how many of them does it have? And the thing is that the quality of the camera is measured by these numbers. I admit I just live Canons colour science and uf they produced a MF camera I would drop Fuji like a hot stone, but untill then, I will go by the fact that when you step up from APSC to FF there is an X factor to photos, I cannot name it because I do not know what it is, the perspective, the compression, the ....something, and the fact is, when you go from FF to MF there is an X squared factor, immediately you click the shutter you get a kick in the chest, for portraits it is beautiful, for landscapes it is stunning, and it has nothing to do with numbers, from the first moment I tried a MF camera you see it, granted MF cameras are expensive, but the Canon R5 just announced is about £3.5k body only, and the lenses are over £1k each generally, so tell me how this is better than the 50R? I am in my 30s and have switched to MF not because of numbers, but because if the X squared factor in the IMAGE, please stop taking spec sheets out and start taking photos, that's what a cameras for isnt it?
It is funny how much I agree with you on all these points. Numbers are not the be all and end all. When I argued as to why people might chose a full frame over this camera my point was more of a marketing argument and less of an X factor argument. Once you get into that kick in the chest factor all bets are off as to the conclusion of my video. But correct me if I was wrong as to my list of people that would be interested in this camera with the most important part of the question being (and not other alternatives) . To me this Fuji camera should have a monopoly on fine art photography and all tethered pro studio photography workflows. But the point of my video was to objectively say that once you get into other workflows, some full frame alternatives become more and more tempting that is it. Whether this FF camera alternatives are "better" than this is a whole other different question.
Correction: Hello everyone I made a mistake in my sensor size 36X24 milliemeter sonsor. That is not the size and is indeed the size of full frame. The sensor size is actually 43.8 X 32.9 i.e. medium format. Sorry about that.
The GFX is a bloated FF. It is not a true Medium Format. Also (most of) the lenses are quite slow and with FF you can get shallower DOF.
You bring up a good point oliver. Sometimes I stuggled to get that really super shallow DOF
@@JacquesGaines There are just fewer native lenses for GFX 50S (one out, one on the way). You'd have to adapt someething if you wanted anything shallower than f/2 (and that's only available in 110mm).
@@oliverlison Medium format is anything over full frame, but less than large format. That's the literal definition of medium format.
KruiserIV Thank you ,some peoples can’t get that through their head that anything larger then full Frame is considered medium format even film size 120. From all the information I read from Fuji this camera even though it can be used in a studio and is capable of video ,that is not where focus is on this camera which is primary for still frames shooters.
I think Fuji shouldn't invest in Full Frame because it's saturated and they dont have the lenses. I think they just should update the sensor of the GFX50R and increase the gap between this model and full frame. Make it more competitive on the other features and more affordable. They CAN do that. I would jump to medium format the next day, No brainer.
That would definitely be a good approach
The key advantage of the GFX-50s or GFX-50r over a 'full frame' camera with the same MP count, as you pointed out, is the better dynamic range and noise handling due to the pixels being larger. I also agree the 50r & 50s are more suitable for landscape/cityscape photographers that want/need the extra detail but not the speed of your average DSLR/mirrorless. That's always where medium/large format has historically found its place.
The real elephant in the room is the GFX-100. You can literally cut 1/4 from a GFX-100 file and still have a 25MP image that is incredibly clean. Commercial product photographers shooting things such as silo's for catalogs/E-commerce can simply crop detail shots from broader images, reducing shoot times and post production. Given the declining 'per item' rates for such shoots, an investment in the GFX camera system can pay for itself rather quickly through increased output. For that kind of work sync speed isn't really an issue either as it is typically done in a controlled environment under constant lights.
For me personally, shooting corporate headshots that are rarely viewed much larger than an iPhone screen, I have no need for the GFX(or any MF) nor a full frame version of the X-T series. My X-T2's(or even X-T1's before I upgraded) handle the work I do just fine. Were I shooting makeup ads for Estee Lauder or Chanel, where the final images are EXTENSIVELY manipulated and high MP count really shines, the GFX-100 would certainly deliver(but we are still talking a controlled environment and constant lights).
None of that is to say I wouldn't take a GFX(50 or 100) if you somehow managed to get your hands on one for a giveaway 😉😉😉.
hehe! I will let you know if that giveaway happens. Thank you for your insights.
What larger pixels? They are smaller than any 24MP full frame camera, even when it was announced.
I disagree with some points. FF market is too overcrowded, and with technology keep going forward, one day we will have a affordable, full functioned medium format Fuji camera, and when FF hits its limit, the path of MF cameras will keep going.
I agree on the MF potential but....do you think that the difference that you speak of will be relevant?
After watching the video I’m very surprised that he would even take his time with this Camera. I shoot a Canon35mm camera and full Frame digital camera they are not the same.Not by a long shot and they are not supposed to be.
I have the GFXR in fact I have 2 of them. I've studio and travel photography with it and I really enjoy it quite well. I've got most of the GF lens and find them very very good. I am a retired commercial photographer and I specialised in Hotels and resorts. When I worked I used mostly Nikon D850 and some times a 4x5 film camera so I kinda know what I'm doing. I find the Fujifilm system just perfect for my needs. My other camera I love is the new Fujifilm Xpro3 with Leica M lens
Hey John. What GF lenses have you chose to own?
John, can you expound of what results you see with an M lens vs. a Fuji lens on your XPro3?
This is definitely a niche market. However, with the gap of APSC and full frame being so close now days, I kind of just see these as their full frame cameras. I use my XT cameras professionally for speed and and video. But when I need resolution I use my GFX 50R. The flash sync hasn't been a hindrance really at all. I've rented out Sony's and Nikon's and canons and the images just don't seem to look the same to what I want. There's some weird X factor with larger sensors that I just love.
Cost wise people look at the body cost and think it's super expensive to get into. But when comparing the price of a body and lens(especially with how many sales there are) the cost is comparable to a Sony body and lens, and amazingly sometimes can be cheaper.
Also, it's a super light medium format for trekking around for landscapes. I took it on an Iceland trip recently and the files are just sublime.
Agreed. I took it out on a fall walk and my God...stunning
I ordered a 50R recently from B&h for $3500. It is on backorder so I'll have it in a couple weeks. I was able to purchase the GFX 50mm brand new from a guy on CL for $650. Not bad. My thought is that yes in a way it is a niche camera. So if u are only going to own one camera then this is prob not the right camera. But I already have a 5D Mark IV which I love and I consider it a jack of all trades master of none. The 50R will be a great camera as long as you have another system that can handle the scenarios where the 50R doesn't excel. I also love the idea that my GFX lenses will work on the GFX100 so if I ever do decide to rent one I will already have lenses for it.
... as a owner of a GFX X and 5 lenses I love to take pictures and and enjoy doing it...!
I liked to watch your video... but not the conclusions... it is a subjective matter...!
And please Fuji, do not listen to suggestions... I love my camera and I do not want or will buy a full frame (I have an old Canon DI x which I hate!!!)
The part about wishing for a full frame is indeed a personal wish. The last thing I want to do is say that Fuji is no good because they do not make a full frame camera
I agree with you...
@@gozoomdaddy
thanks Kevin... I like the file that come from my GFX and it is a pleasure to photograph with it... I do not say it is the best...just that it works the way I like... People even comment it's just to show off...I do mainly landscape...so I go at early hours to crazy, cold, windy places...where there is nobody to "exhibit my big trendy camera..."
Blessings and stay safe...and let's enjoy our hobby...!
The GFX line is exceeding FUJIFILM’s expectations in terms of sales. I don’t believe it’s intended to be a volume sales leader, but it is doing very well. There seems to be a growing market and if the GFX100 is any indication of things to come, the next 50 series will be even more ‘snappy’ and feature laden. A bit of an Oxymoron, as MF has always been about slower subject matter, but FUJIFILM is breaking conventional MF thinking with the GFX line. I think it’s a brilliant strategy. There is profitability in niche’ markets.
The last time I spoke to a Fuji X photographer (whom I will not name) I was told that the whole idea of making money on the whole photography line is just not the goal. At the top (corporate top I mean), Fuji has a whole bunch of passionate photographers with the power to make good photography decisions. I am told that they are given "carte blanche" on how, when, where, and who to sell their cameras to. I did mention a financial argument in my video but, in the end, I do not think it matters much. Conclusion? These fantastic cameras will continue to get made in the near and far distant future. One big point I did ignore in this video and should not have is that Fuji made the idea of a sub 5000$ medium format camera a reality and that is not something to ignore.
The Fuji GFX50R is on back order. It’s took me almost three months to get one.
I see the GFX also pushing the boundaries of take everywhere use everywhere medium format to more people. The 50r is certainly exists for that.
Agreed. But the boutique aspect of the camera rules it out for a whole bunch of people
Why 1/125 is such a big deal, specially now a days when low-end to high-end strobes all do HSS. I say this as a GFX50s shooter who shoot mostly outdoors with strobes and haven't run into any problems with the slow sync speed. Would I like 1/1000, sure ((waiting for global shutter), but most FF only do 1/200.
I agree that HSS is out there but the setup of hss is another layer to the already complex technique of studio flash photography (that can go bad). I do not think the camera sucks because it has 1/125th but I truly am disappointed. Especially after being spoiled with 1/250th that the XT2 and XT3 had offered
I have both XF series with 56mm f1.2 and GFX with 110mm f2 and GFX is way up there specially for someone doing portraits. HSS requires nothing from the photographer except press HSS button my Godox. You can also shoot full TTL which also works pretty good. Now for speedy AF, I will take XF but not for the sync speed.
The 1/125 debate is really a dead criticism. It’s just one stop of light we’re talking about here. Either open up your aperture or increase your ISO. If you don’t want to do that then try using HSS. Don’t have HSS? Try using a ND filter. Don’t want to use ND, look at getting a leaf shutter lens. There are enough options.
Thanks for posting this review, much appreciated. I noticed during the part where you brought up the image on your computer and lightened / brightened it (as it was too dark) I noticed that you mentioned you shot the image at f/22 (?) whereas you usually would shoot at f/11 or f/14....and I wondered why...? But then I thought, ....oh, he needs that small aperture to get rid of ambient light in the studio, because of the 1/125th sync speed. True? Thanks again for the helpful review.
Quite a few rules change when you go to medium format as well.
unbelivable how far fuji has come with their medium format mirrorless. 1/125 isnt great to sync a flash, but its impressive when u think how much bigger this shutter have to be. hasselblad x1D doesnt have a mechanical shutter (leave shutter in the lenses) so if flash photography is very important to you, u can use the hasselblad with their leaveshutter lenses - u can go up to 1/2000 with ure flash there. to me, the fuji was the much better option. i can adapt canon ef lenses with autofocus via techart adapter, and because of the mechanical shutter in the camera, i dont get the problems of the electronic shutter. my canon 85mm 1.2 gives me pictures like a 70mm 0.95 - difficult to get something like this on a full frame with autofocus. the vigniette is easy to correct in lightroom, but the corners arent very sharp. i use this for the cool look and the bokeh, not for the ultimate sharpness. if u want sharpness and quality u can get this with some of the gf lenses. i liked it so much when fuji went for medium format instead of full frame, like nearly all other camera companies. do we really need so many mirrorless full frame camera companies? leica, panasonic, sigma, nikon, canon and sony - some of them using the same sensor in their bodies. if i had to guess, i think nikon sigma and panasonic will get some problems to survive in this shrinking market. fuji will grow more and more, when professionals want to seperate themselves from all beginners who can easily afford full frame. some will go medium format, and fuji can offer them a good system. if u see the canon R5 costs 4000 dollars - i bought a used Fuji gfx 50s for 2300... and i think the quality of my camera is little better. ofc R5 is much more versatile and better in lots of situations...
Nice review! I think your conclusions are spot on. It is more of a natural light camera for those that are looking for amazing resolution. That’s why I bought the 50R. I don’t think it can compete in features and speed with the best full frame cameras though... But in my case, speed and features are not that important. Another big plus for going GLX are the GL lenses. The quality of Fuji glass is really very high...
Totally agree! Those lenses are crazy sharp and on a totally other level.
Nice review, but I bet these cameras will soon catch up to the XT-3 features and performance on the next or uber-next version. Oh, and did you say the sensor was 36x24mm (aka full frame)? I’m quite sure it’s bigger. Anyway, thanks for the detailed and thoughtful review.
No I pretty sure I stated that it was medium format
Jacques Gaines You said “Active sensor area is 36 by 24 millimeter”. Check again. I listened to it 3 times to make sure I wasn’t missing a correction bullet in the corner or simply mis-hearing.
@@swagonman You are right. I will pin the correction at the top. Sorry about that.
I know it’s been 4years you done this review on the Fuji gfx 50r and I greatly appreciate your in-depth on the 50r-but I disagree with you on Fuji should make a full frame.
Sony, Nikon,Canon already has that market taken care of. Fuji decision to compete with Hasselblad and Phase one was absolutely the right way to go-that’s because they know that those medium format had weakness and they didn’t have any competition.
Plus someone like who came from medium format film is very very thankful for Fuji making the GFX line and brought the price to we’re I can afford one. Fuji made my dream come true.
Good point my friend
The GFX50R would be the perfect landscape camera for me but I would need to win the lottery to afford both the camera and lenses, and the travel to make use of it. For now I will settle with my X-E2 and driving around Nova Scotia.
Sounds good to me. Do me a favor. Show the world the beauty of Cape Breton. With the 10-24 f/4 you can do wonders
I have a Sony a7R3 and just bought GFX 50R. One reason only: the "umph" of the image. Period.
It is really a big reason for getting one
Does it really beat the riii by a margin? I’m an a7iii shooter debating riv or a gfx
@@martinmac6563 depends on what this margin for you is. If it is the character of the picture, than yes.
@@martinmac6563 you should really watch this one: ruclips.net/video/n06Wl0LooEI/видео.html
As a fellow Fuji lover I appreciate your take on this camera. I would love to have it but I agree it is definitely a niche camera so would not be practical for me to spend my money on it. If as you say Fuji would develop a FF camera I would be all over it.
They say the hurdle is the lens system. But I think that it would be worth it to start from scratch
I love my 50R with the 3 native Fuji lenses I have and with some Canon glass I've adapted especially my 24 TSE II I do a lot of on location environmental portraits and love the handling and of course the image quality in combination with my Flashpoint strobes for HSS -- my top wish for Fuji if they can improve via firmware: AF in continuous (if the subject is static which is most of the work I use it for it's actually extremely accurate for me), if the could add the prism they have in the XT3 for manually focusing, the APP is horrible compared to Canon and I don't like to shoot tethered especially since I shoot on location etc. and I really hope they add Eterna and the newest situation the xpro3 has. All in all for my commercial work it's been pretty fantastic and that 110f2 is something else
Question. What program do you use when you thether? Capture One? Lightroom?
I think, a new affordable full frame medium format with fast accurate focus, despite only small mega pixels will be a better contender to 35mm full frame cameras.
All of the GFX bodies are 1st generation cameras. Let’s see what Fuji has in the making for the next generations.
This is a reason why I'm considering holding off on the 50R. Like you said, it's a first generation camera. What will come out next?
But... body is only $3500 currently. Tough decision.
Getting it in 2021 paired with 65mm Mitakon
You should be using Capture 1 for better results to really show what the GFX can do. Micro tonal and micro contrasts are so much better than any full frame.
I think a lot of reviewers miss the boat on this...if you like the fujifilm interface...this is the next step up...people keep comparing gfx line with full frame Sony's ....xpro and xt users wouldn't be looking at Sony it's an entirely different ethos ...
I agree with you 100% but I guess my point was to say that the ethos for the GFX line is absolutely credible, plausible and worth a look. I just think that it is a small niche where the argument to go there is counter argued by the full frame offerings. A full frame will NEVER touch that medium format look but, in 2019, it is coming awfully close.
i have the 50r and d850 and d810 the Nikons is way better all around camera but the 50r has the best image output no doubt. but is the 50r a real 51.4MP camera when my d810-36mp has bigger jpg files about 24-32mg and my new 50r is from 21-26mg i dont belive it is 51.4mp cant be, the 50r has more pixels biger sensor but smaler files files ?
Are you saving as RAW compressed lossless or RAW uncompressed. That will definitely change your file size though. Please get back to me on this. I am curious
Excellent thoughtful review, thank you.
The sensor size isp not 24x36mm (which is full frame film size) , but 43.8 mm × 32.9 mm.
Agreed. I had pinned the correction
@@JacquesGaines Yes, sorry. I didnt see that till I had posted my comment.
I wish we could switch out videos like on Vimeo. But YT does not allow for that. Anyways. Thank you. I'd rather people correct than let these mistakes go ignored. Cheers
I looked at the Fuji camera in a recent camera fair in New Delhi. For me it is clunky & I prefer the FF option of sony a7r4 wherein the processing is more rounded - better video -EVF and much more flexible to use. I do fine art work so I appreciate the high MP but the slightly larger sensor also means having a limited range of lenses - heavier - less ergonomic etc. With the E mount I have a much larger lens range including adapting manual focus lenses from different formats - medium format included. Sensor processing has improved so much that the slight increase in sensor (FF =0,8 aprox) is negligible in terms of the overall performance. I have had the a7r4 since a couple of wks & the detail that it gives is impressive - I doubt that I would get significantly more. The EVF is also better which is a huge plus for manual focus. Fuji has brought out a 100mp update but it is heavier - clunkier and much more expensive.
Totally agree. Go to wonder who will find the advantage to this camera
@@JacquesGaines Maybe a very niche clientale perhaps for studio work. FF there are too many options & they would have to cut into their aps-c line for which they have so many lenses & it is a much more evolved system
6:23 the slow flash sync speed is not foolish it is the only possible.... you got a big sensor and therfore a big shutter. There is material to move and mass to be accelerated or decelerated. This is the reason why full frame cameras got commonly 1/200 sync speed and crop sensor cameras 1/250. The mechanics are just smaller. The other way around would be a leaf shutter in the lens which makes things less affordable. Modern leaf shutter lenses go up to 1/1400 and also by design leaf shutter can sync the flash at any speed. But then you arrive in the phase one / hasselblad price range. That is the main difference. I believe that with an adapter you can use older H series hasselblad lenses and their fuji equivalents and take advantage of the leaf shutter, but I am not sure about that. I'd love a video on that.
I think the adapter and vintage lens solution is good but you got to jump through hoops to get there I believe. But I agree. Point well taken
I don't think it is wise for Fuji to try to compete in a field already dominated by every other camera company in full frame
I really think that they can. Their approach is completely different. IMHO, they could definitely blaze a trail
Your right fuji won't make money on fullframe..its been dominated by other brand so far instead take that money to improve your med format...dont do it Fuji..I'm afuji shooter my self..landscape and nature is the love of my life ..amen..dont lost your money..
Using the GFX50r is like using a Leica M. It's not rational. It's looking for a slower way of shooting. A kind of handmade photographies. However, I must admit that FF like S1r, SL2, Z7, EOS-R5 (or even the awful ergonomics A7RIV) are better rational choice from now on. All these cameras are powerful, war machines, but are they charming ?
I agree with your assessment on use in-studio, and perhaps the shutter speed limitation is the size of the sensor + a mechanical focal plane shutter. Other than a Pentax 67, every other medium format camera I've owned had a leaf shutter which isn't speed limited by travel distance. If I recall correctly, the in-body shutter sync on the Pentax 67 was actually 1/30! Though Pentax did offer the 90mm leaf shutter lens for the system. If you can convince Fujifilm to make a FF camera great! But I don't think I'd buy one. I find the FF market at the moment to be a feature race not unlike the same competition that happened in APS-C in the early to mid-2000s. I guess what I value most is a camera that has the ability to capture very good image quality while getting out of my way. I may hold a minority opinion on this, but the advantage of 10 to 15 more megapixels or 2X faster eye focus is lost on me if I need to grab a roadmap and pack a lunch to travel through a (bloated?) menu system to locate and adjust important but secondary settings. My current experience with Fuji APS-C and landscape / travel suggests that the 50R could be the experience I prefer, with a larger sensor and its benefits, for about $1,000 more than the A7rIV and lens. That said, I've got about $250.00 left in my 2019/2020 camera budget. Anyone have a spare $5,798 they'd be willing to toss my way? :)
Sorry I cannot help you on the money thing but yes. I agree on your point about the spec wars but I still think that if you look at all of this in a marketing approach, it would make sense to develop a FF just to stay alive. But yes the Fuji APS-C line delivers but can you imagine some of the beastly features of an XT3 on a FF? What I should have mentioned in this video was that I just love the Fuji approach and would be oh so curious to see how they would implement this in a full frame context.
A lot of the features of the APS cameras are not available on larger sensors of the same generation due to simple facts like signal run time on the sensor and mechanical shutter travel time. Worth looking into, Jacque, to put some of the design decisions you mention into perspective.
Agreed. But that same argument goes for FF versus MF. MF seems to be the tipping point as to how a camera gets "clunky" because of sensor size. You'd better need that extra oumph that MF offers you.
It so good that I have 2 with 5 lens. Took it to Mongolia for three weeks shooting horse and the reindeer herders. If you would like to see some the image let me know. I would be more than happy to share it with you .
Please send me the link
Please could I see the link I'm very intrigued by this camera
@@ewanmcneill9511 same
Would love to see that too (considering buying this camera). Larzacexmachina@hotmail.com
Fuji gfx 50r doesn't have more color depth than other camera like sony nikon canon it delivers 8 bits jpg and 14 bit raw
Specification wise but there is a something that cannot be ignored on the larger sensor
I disagree with your assessment on comparing full frame to medium format. There is a noticeable difference in image quality. Even if you have a 100mp FF images go against a 50mp MF image the details in the MF image will be a lot clearer. The bottleneck in full frame images are the lenses. They just can't resolve enough detail onto the sensor so FF will never be able to be as clear as MF. Canon did something really interesting with the new RF mount making it bigger and brining it closer to the sensor. The new RF glass creates images with astounding detail but even those images don't compare with MF.
All excellent points. But here is a small question for you. Who will see the *difference between and RF and a medium format?* _(especially with RF being really amazing-for full frame obviously)_ the next question is. Is the difference worth the price? I do not know the answer as I know that RF lenses are getting strikingly close in price to GF lenses. Just putting that out there.
Doubtful that Fuji will make a FF mount; that market is simply overcrowded. Now, with CaniKon and Pany entering the FF mirrorless arena, I guess it's a little bit too late for that. Agin, that would be nice, but it's doubtful.
For months I'm trying to force myself to buy this camera, but I simply can't justify the cost, at least not right now. It's an amazing system, able to adapt both many FF lenses and many if not all MF lenses...
Tom I will never buy a Fuji MF. The costs far outweigh the benefits in my and many other's realities.
Have you ever tried the GFX-100. It absolutely dominates my PhaseOne.
Oh yeah?
Too cool
I think that unless you're looking at actual full frame medium format offering from Phase One, this 'APS-C'-digital-medium-format loses the traditional edge of bigger sensors vs FF offerings but this is mostly to do with the new generation of FF mirrorless lenses. The wide open look, the clarity and the sharpness you get with modern lenses is really THE game changer. Sensors, less so.
This, combined with just plain ease of use in handling a smaller camera, like you say, made me move away from digital medium format.
I think the gfx 50 cameras are more about access to the lenses. The high usability body is the 100. The 50 bodies will soon be the casual beginner bodies. Let's see when the super blowout sale happens,in a kit with the 50mm "pancake" lens.
I agree totally. We might see price drops in Q2 of 2020 I think.
I liked your grey pictures. Looked mine ;-)).. Thanks
Cool, thanks. Where can I go check your images out?
@@JacquesGaines Thanks for your interest. am looking for a web site. cheap. to post my pictures for friends.
Sir , I really enjoyed detail review of 50R ...wonderful ...
Thank you
I'd say it's a deal compared to hasselblad and phase one cameras.
Not only a deal but also a step up in certain regards as the lens options are unbelievably amazing.
one word, gradation, that is why medium format shines
Totally agree with you and I should have pushed that point a bit more. It is what struck me the most with these cameras
The real question would be, why are you reviewing the previous generation of MF Fuji and not the GFX100 that addresses most of 'problems' you are referring to. Also when it comes to MF, I still wonder why wouldn't you just shoot film and scan with a drum scanner or the hasselblad flextight and just enjoy quality and life, without complications :).
Also for got to tell you. I asked for the GFX100 and it was already loaned out
Point taken. It goes a bit with the idea that this camera is for those who appreciated the photographic process.
@@JacquesGaines That's a bit cheap of Fuji, having just one of those to loan out :). I hope you get your hands on it and do another review. Btw, I agree that the 50 feels outdated compared to the Lumix S1R, the Z7, or the A7. However I would say the 100 feels very much relevant. I even started wondering what I would do with one and an adapter for my CZJ/KMZ lenses for P6/Kiev60. Of course at that price point I can just buy a drum scanner (and a second one for parts) and not only scan my MF film, but actually turn that into a good scanning business with the recent film revival :). I just have to check under the couch cushions for a spare $10K.
Sensor is not 36x24, thats full frame. GFX sensor is 44x33.
Yes you are correct. I will pin the correction
What about Hassey?
Hmm
Phase detect via firmware
Oh...Cool update!
just sounds like you hate the camera and wanna bash fuji 🙄
No. You got it conpletely wrong. You obviously didn't pay attention. Please pinpoint where you see this "bashing"
Why would you even mention the frames per second. When no one familiar with medium format camera’s know you do not buy it for frames per second you buy it for image quality. I’ve only watched a few reviews where the frames per second have not been mentioned by photographers who should know better.
I am aware. I just thought that it might be good to mention for those who might not know that the fps is low. with the fps monsters that come out these days, one can easily assume that you get at least 6 or 8. Trying to make sure that I covered all the angles. Cheers!
@@JacquesGaines When you gonna make a comparison with other cameras then it should be with a medium format. I shoot with a Pentax 6 x 7 and I’ll had them for years. Not once have I ever even thought about praying for a second I made a comparison with my canon 35 mm or DSLR. Thank you for your response we just have different opinions.
they will have to update that AF.......... and I think they will.... when they do, I will be there........
Via firmware upgrade you think?
Jacques Gaines I can only hope
Nice job
Thanks!
thank you
You are welcome
Why are you worrying about the commercial side of things? You really had a needless rant on a beautiful piece of technology that Fuji has finally given general public access 2, The fact that you compare a GFx to a Sony kinda sums up what you see as a photographer, which judging by your edits is pretty boring and flat.
Hello. As for the rant I was simply looking at what I think is the commercial reality of things. I really do enjoy the camera. Also, when somone critiques my work, I always ask for them to let me see theirs so I can get some perspective. Can you give me a link to an Instagram or a Flickr or a webpage please?
Just use HS sync.
That would work. Another level of complexity though
hs sync is not that great, i hate it
no ETERNA :(
Not yet but you can customise every filmsimulation i have made one on my gfx that looks like polaroid camera images and i saved it as Polaroid it looks so cool
There's a 4 point upgrade with the new 2.0 firmware update which includes ETERNA and Classic Neg.
Face and eye autofocus is improved too.
Nice... 😊👍
I started watching this video, stopped then came back to it, immediately re starting your general opinion is that it's only old codgers who have used MF all their lives that will be interested in this camera, what ignorant rubbish, and typical of today's market that has grown increasingly obsessed numbers, is the dynamic range big enough, how many features are in it, is the iso range too big/small, can you shoot fast with it, does it have this or that, how many of them does it have? And the thing is that the quality of the camera is measured by these numbers. I admit I just live Canons colour science and uf they produced a MF camera I would drop Fuji like a hot stone, but untill then, I will go by the fact that when you step up from APSC to FF there is an X factor to photos, I cannot name it because I do not know what it is, the perspective, the compression, the ....something, and the fact is, when you go from FF to MF there is an X squared factor, immediately you click the shutter you get a kick in the chest, for portraits it is beautiful, for landscapes it is stunning, and it has nothing to do with numbers, from the first moment I tried a MF camera you see it, granted MF cameras are expensive, but the Canon R5 just announced is about £3.5k body only, and the lenses are over £1k each generally, so tell me how this is better than the 50R? I am in my 30s and have switched to MF not because of numbers, but because if the X squared factor in the IMAGE, please stop taking spec sheets out and start taking photos, that's what a cameras for isnt it?
It is funny how much I agree with you on all these points. Numbers are not the be all and end all. When I argued as to why people might chose a full frame over this camera my point was more of a marketing argument and less of an X factor argument. Once you get into that kick in the chest factor all bets are off as to the conclusion of my video. But correct me if I was wrong as to my list of people that would be interested in this camera with the most important part of the question being (and not other alternatives) . To me this Fuji camera should have a monopoly on fine art photography and all tethered pro studio photography workflows. But the point of my video was to objectively say that once you get into other workflows, some full frame alternatives become more and more tempting that is it. Whether this FF camera alternatives are "better" than this is a whole other different question.
Preacher man 👨
Hep me somebody! Can I git a whitnesss aaaaaa!!!!
If you want to be swayed to not buy this camera watch this video lol
its for free for me
You already got the S man.
Am I the only one wanting a MF camera with 24mp?
Leica maybe? But aren't they all manual focus if you want them to be?