Beggars Banquet - "Street Fighting Man" & "Jigsaw Puzzle" Album Reaction (Part 3)
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I love that you appreciate Mick Jagger's songwriting. That tends to get overlooked, because he's the quintessential frontman, but he's quite gifted, and underrated as a lyricist.
Piano has always been the Stones’ secret weapon.
Absolut richtig!
Die Nummer die oldham mit Ian Stewart abgezogen hat ist echt unterirdisch mies gewesen damals.
Die Pianisten sind so wichtig für den stones Sound und ich liebe es.
Can't wait for Stray Cat Blues.
On Street Fighting Man, notice how Jagger's pulsing vocals mimic the sound of French police sirens. A reference to the French riots in 1968.
Oh man! You're right! Been listening to this song for decades and never made that connexion! Cool!
Hey also mentioned that the beat was mirroring the send of police truncheons (batons for this of us from the US)
Street Fighting Man is on the short list of great Stones Songs
On Street Fighting Man, Keith is playing his Gibson Hummingbird acoustic guitar into a handheld tape recorder, overdriving the tiny mic. It was a primitive method of generating compression and overdrive effects. They used the technique on other songs, like "Jumping Jack Flash".
I cannot tell you how many times I played Street Fighting Man over and over again. I LOVED that song. Still do. 1968…..great year for music.
Then 69, Altamont, Hells Angels, disaster.
Jigsaw puzzle does have a strong Dylan vibe, even has those zingy slide guitar twangs. Nicky Hopkins really elevated every band he played with.
Unexpectedly great deep cut followed by an all time classic, the Stones were bad to the bone in those days. The journey continues, enjoy! 🎵🎸🎤🎸🎹🎷🎶
The Stones actually recorded and (I think) released “Street Fighting Man” before the Beatles recorded and released “Revolution.” Nonetheless, it is very cool that both bands responded at the same time to the situation.
The Stones were slightly in front in the cutting edge department by 1968. Also, the wailing guitar “Jigsaw Puzzle” is actually a mellotron. The lyrics make it one of my favorites to crank up and sing along loudly.
They were both released in August 1968
You barley mention Charlie Watts the back bone of the Stones .. Keith calls him “ Banger “ stones signature rhymes is Charlie .. and he punctuates and turns the corners
The producer of Beggars Banquet, Jimmy Miller, preferred working in England rather than New York. From his experience NY record companies were more concerned with the bottom line rather than creativity.
If I recall Mick also produced the previous album and didn't want the responsibilities again.
I'm kinda jealous..you getting to hear these great classic tunes for the first time and being open minded enough to appreciate them.
Awesome reaction as always!
Mick and Keith did self produce His Satanic Majesties Request. That was a bit of a flop, so the studio and the band agreed to bring in an outside producer. Jimmy Miller was a known quantity, he had already done some work with Spencer Davis Group I believe.
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I just checked the song titles from SMR..the only one I recognize and liked was *She's Like A Rainbow*.
In the last Stones reaction video I said "you can't go wrong with the Stones"
I was wrong, lol.
You are right, it was 'a bit of a flop'.
Oh, Jimmy Miller worked with Traffic but I'm not sure about Spencer Davis..both incredible groups.
I think this year is the 50th anniversary of *Dear Mister Fantasy* 💥
@@michele-33 the band didn't like TSMR, Richards has the harshest view of that album especially in his autobiography.
Yes, although Jones was absent or useless for most sessions, and Richards played nearly all guitar. “Rock and Roll Circus” was Jones’ last performance. “Street Fighting Man” is played on many acoustic guitar tracks. Also, this is why you want Nicky Hopkins playing piano in your band
I thought Street Fighting Man was a Exile on Main Street track. Awesome high energy track.
For even more context, Syed: Martin Luther King was assassinated in April of 1968. Robert Kennedy was assassinated a few months later. In the summer of @968 at the Democratic Convention in Chicago, young people protesting in the streets were savagely beaten by police…..which was caught on film by TV reporters and shown on TV screens across the world. Allot of The music of that time reflects the upheaval and violence in America as the culture wars…..still with us today…..truly began.
The Stones are just too cool,,,,💥💥💥👍😎
Jigsaw Puzzle and Stray Cat Blues are my fave songs on the album and two of my fave Stones of all time.
In the mid 70’s I was fortunate enough to befriend Nicky Hopkins who played piano on this and other tracks on this album. He was one of the nicest people you would ever want to meet.
The original piano player with the Stones was Ian Stewart a founding member. The Stones manager thought he didn't "look the part" and that a 6 piece band was one too many. He graciously stepped aside and became their roadie. In the early years he played piano at their live concerts. Interesting point is that he retained his 1/6th ownership.
Jigsaw Puzzle is a favourite Stones track of mine
Mine as well. :)
Street Fighting Man, the guitar is a Roger McGuinn style rhythm. I really love the whole song. Jigsaw is a post-Nashville Dylan sound with a psychedelic instrumental layer added. Beck (Hansen) has heard Jigsaw because it's sound is definitely in elements of his 90s songs.
Keith is playing acoustic recorded to distortion levels..freakin awesome
My favorite two tracks on the album - Prodigal Son and Strat Cat Blues - coming up!
The last one, Salt of the Earth, not too shabby either
A friend said the same thing when I played this as a newly released album, "That track is a Dylan rip-off" I am sure they intended it as a salute. I just know you are gonna enjoy the remaining tracks, & I will enjoy your reaction.
Oh yeah what a keyboard player in Nicky Hopkins & that guitar sound in "Street Fighting Man" can also be heard in "Jumping Jack Flash" & it's B side on vinyl "Child of the Moon" both interesting Rolling Stones uninfluenced tracks.
"Street..." is the quintessential 4-on-the-floor, song of it's time as the Viet Name war protests and civil rights struggles were everywhere. So so good. Thank you Keith.
Thanks for all your Stones reactions. You are spot on!
Nicky Hopkins piano is a beast. Love the bass line on this one as well. A masterpiece album.
You mentioned that you didn't like it as much when the Stones tried to emulate the styles of other artists, (which, frankly they did quite well) but you preferred when they did their own thing. Well, Street Fighting Man certainly delivered on that count! It sounds like nothing but The Rolling Stones, and you were suitably cognizant of the power of such a track. Kudos for hitting on that.
Keenly anticipating the next installment. I kinda want to ask for an Amen on that. Y'all know what I mean.
Ame. I know what you mean.
On the original vinyl, Jig Saw Puzzle was the last track on Side One and Street Fighting Man was the first on Side Two. There was a natural gap, a silence, when you flipped the record. This key formatting is lost with today’s Spotify playlists.
Great reaction and analysis...as always
I thin the reference to the beggar relates to methylated spirits which is usually used to clean paintbrushes etc but a tramp would drink cos it is a cheap form of alcohol
Street Fighting Man, a killer track that may be reborn one of these troubled days.
Another group that Nicky Hopkins played with that you might like is Quicksilver Messenger Service. They had some interesting work from back in the day. What About Me and Spindrifter were a couple of my favorites.
For the Dylanesque refrain of 'Jigsaw Puzzle', compare this line from Dylan's 1966 song, 'Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again': "And here I sit so patiently, Waiting to find out what price You have to pay to get out of Going through all these things twice."
Nice pick up, Syed, regarding that high pitched slide guitar like sound in the left hand speaker. It was Brian Jones providing that eerie melody, but is isn't a guitar: it's a mellotron. A notoriously difficult instrument to control. Superb stuff.
The conspicuous and haunting wail which appears in the middle of the track as the song builds and again at the end, is Brian Jones playing the mellotron. For me, It’s one of his best contributions to any stones track. Unfortunately is would have been among his last.
Deep stuff by you. Loved the whole final summing up.
What a fucking album.
Rod Stewart did an excellent cover of this song on his first solo album.
Well, you did your homework! Love it!!! Love you.... think...
Nicky Hopkins and Al Kooper were the two GIANTS of session keyboard players. Billy Preston, too, to a slightly lesser degree than the other two. The 60's and early 70's blues-rock bands always had one of those guys in sessions if they didn't have their own keyboardist.
This is the Rolling Stones thing. Its a procession of music. Different eraa. Different times of life. I love it all.
Rod Stewart did a 1969 cover of Street Fighting Man. Outstanding! Really creative & exciting. Give it a try.
I'm glad someone else mentioned this. The album "An Old Raincoat Won't Ever Let You Down" is really Rod and his mates from various bands in the 1960s having a great time. This track is a highlight with Waller, Woods and McLagan rocking out 🤩
Syed for a young guy you have clear and device vision of what happened to rock music past this era!
I have never thought of Dylan when i have listen to this song but yeah why not. Anyway i have always got a kind of melancholy vibe out of this song. I never really listened to the lyrics that carefully until now and i have listen to it now and then since 1968 haha. By the way i think Dylan is a big admirer of the Stones, and thanks to you, it is always nice to hear your reviews.
You are correct! Dylan said this in a 2009 interview:
"The Rolling Stones are truly the greatest rock and roll band in the world and always will be. The last too. Everything that came after them, metal, rap, punk, new wave, pop-rock, you name it... you can trace it all back to the Rolling Stones. They were the first and the last and no one's ever done it better."
Bob Dylan, 2009
Not too long after Street Fighting Man Jagger enrolled his new born son into Eton!
LOL
The strong acoustic intro of Street Fightin' Man was Keith pounding away and having it tracked over itself like six times or so. As I read many years ago.
The guitar is recorded by Keith putting the mic directly in to the body of an acoustic and the playing there and only cassette recorder. The drums Charlie passed was an old jazz kit that came in a suitcase and played in a staircase to get the echo sound
Wyman's bass is brilliant. And Watts' shuffle!
Piano, the 5th Stone. Billy Hopkins.
Keith turned his acoustic guitar as high as he could get it without breaking his strings... Now, if you want holes blown through your shoes, listen to Rod Stewart's version with Ron Wood on slide and bass... Pure heaven...
Keith played almost all guitars on Beggars Banquet except for the slide guitar on No Expectations.
"Every where I hear the sound of violent revolution." Jagger says the "up down up down up down" melody was meant to sound like the old police car sirens.
Based on your comments comparing "Jigsaw Woman" to Dylan lyrics, you may really love a song by Mick Jagger from the soundtrack to the 1970 movie "Performance", in which he starred as a former rock star who unknowingly takes in a gangster on the run as a tenant. The song is "Memo From Turner" and the lyrics are really out there! Hope you enjoy it as much as I always have.
"Street Fighting Man" was the perfect end music to the film 'V for Vendetta'.
Beggers Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main Street is as good as the Stones get. They still put out fantastic music, but these four albums are the pinnacle of their work.
There are not many bands that were able to produce a streak of 3, 4, 5 albums in a row like those. Those are all great and a true measure of an elite band
glad you liked street fighting man
No matter where the Stones take their music, whatever the style, behind it all, was Charlie Watts, keeping the band in a Tight Pocket. Rest Easy Charlie, you kept the band "On Time" for 6 decades...
Angry, nervous, shattered and damaged just happen to be the very best epithets in the English language. Or is it just Mick’s expert lyricist skills that have warped my mind?
I’ve seen all your vids but not sure if you said you’d be continuing this into Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers
Dude, you have to listen "2000 light years from home", a pure masterpiece!
Make no mistake, while Jones played marginally (yet still effectively on many Banquet tracks), his influence on the bands sound from the start with its blues feel is clear
If you are thinking about doing this kind of trip till, let say, Some Girls album, you will become the main Rolling Stones supporter. I promise you buddy. And there's no way back home!!
Hearing Jigsaw Puzzle again reminded me of Paul Simon's Dylan "tribute" (satire) 'A Simple Desultory Philippic (or How I Was Robert McNamara'd into Submission)' 😎
The guitar in street fighting man is an acoustic guitar. (starts out the song. Keith plays direct into a mic, loudly)
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have you done Child of The Moon ?? The Jumping Jack Flash B-side???
Nikki Hopkins !!! He played with the who’s who man! Look up his credits!🖖🏼
The Stones were regarded as a nuisance, a disturbance of the settled and established community.
Syed, yet another great reaction video by you on this great album.
Please check out my previous comments on your first 2 reaction videos for Beggars Banquet because I believe you'll find the information I shared for you interesting. I've done decades of research on the Stones, especially on how they created their vast catalog of songs.
First, you should know that except for his wonderful acoustic slide guitar on "No Expectations", Brian Jones contributed very little to this album because he was drugged out of his mind most of the time.
Keith Richards plays all of the guitars on this album, and Keith had been doing that for the most part on the Stones studio work since 1966. Beggars Banquet was mostly created by Mick, Keith, Charlie and Bill, with Keith doing the work of 2 musicians, as he would on their next album, "Let it Bleed".
The key ingredient on this album was pianist Nicky Hopkins, who worked as a session musician for hire, and began his long relationship with the Stones a year before this album in 1967, and would continue to play on their studio albums until 1981, when his health began to fail. Hopkins was simply the best rock piano player of the 60s.
If you remember a song you reviewed from the Quicksilver Messenger Service, you liked the piano part most of all. That was Nicky Hopkins, who was in that band for a short time. He was the best piano player the Stones ever had, and the only pianist who they occasionally made the centerpiece instrument of a song.
"Jigsaw Puzzle" - I agree with you that it's a good song, but the Stones are expected to create great songs, so this is my second least favorite song on this album. Keith created the bluesy sounds on a slide guitar, which is played with a glass or metal tube on the guitarist's fret hand finger. The guitarist presses the tube on the frets and the guitar makes bluesy sounds when he strums with his other hand. Brian Jones made the screeching noises on a very unusual instrument called a mellotron, which hardly anyone uses anymore.
"Street Fighting Man"- Syed, you're the only person I know of who noticed the unusual recording aspect of this song on your first listen. This song was created by Keith, who used a portable cassette recorder that he overloaded to the point that it started to distort, making an acoustic guitar sound electric. He'd done the same thing on "Jumpin Jack Flash". Keith also used the cassette recorder to record Charlie playing a practice drum kit, not an actual drum set. The same result occurred, making Charlie's drums sound huge. Keith said he played a total of eight acoustic guitars on this song, some just to embellish specific chords. Keith played bass as well.
He then gave the recording to Mick to write the lyrics. Mick said in an interview that whenever Keith gave him a recording to write lyrics for, he always hoped he could write lyrics worthy of Keith's music. He certainly did, as these are fantastic. Did you notice the ambiguity when Mick sings "no" and "yeah" on top of one another? It's a brilliant touch.
The Stones ended every concert during the Mick Taylor years with "Street Fighting Man". In my, and many others opinion, the Stones were the best live rock and roll band the world has ever heard during the Mick Taylor years, and the line "what can a poor boy do except sing for a rock and roll band" is one of Mick's signature lines, just as iconic as Keith's line, "I can't get no satisfaction".
Much of their music is American inspired. Blues, R&B, Country...
Like Richards on the slide, guess Mick hadn't joined the band yet.
Mick Taylor joined the Stones in 1969. His first song with them was Honky Tonk Women, then he played on the last 2 songs the Stones did to complete the Let it Bleed album - Country Honk and Live with Me.
Taylor's first full album with the Stones was the live album, Get Yer Ya Ya's Out! His first full studio album with them was the masterpiece Sticky Fingers.
What is the link of the screen shot you use telling you Street Fighting Man was a Dylan imitation? I can't find that anywhere online and yet I find umpteen better examinations of the song. There's no doubt Dylan influenced them, but I really beg to differ with that take on this being an imitation in any way. Dylan's name isn't even mentioned in at least the first 6 links on the song's analysis (where I gave up looking). I've listened to this album hundreds of times as well as every Dylan album just as much. If there's a direct correlation it sure went over my head. I'd love to read the link you found assuming there's more than just that screen shot. Thanks. I think you'll have a different take on many of these songs with repeated listens. This album is a masterpiece and they'd have written it knowing Dylan or not. Can't wait to hear your take on Salt of the Earth. ... Also you said in an earlier post that you don't think Jagger/Richards get the credit they deserve since you only hear McCartney/Lennon. Umm, that's just wrong. They're more prolific than those 2 and they've surely been recognized. It's true you don't think Jagger when you think of poetic lyrics and we should but the critics consider them as possibly number one over Lennon/McC just because they have so many more acclaimed albums. Just my 2 cents. Glad you're watching this stuff and the Dylan album lately. I hope folk grows on you because you're not falling in love with that Dylan album as I'd have hoped.
jigsaw puzzle might be mick's best vocal performance
Have you done the Beatles' White Album yet? There's a challenge...
I think there was a sitar in there
Keith era
No electric guitars in Street Fighting Man. All acoustic
What is a mentholated sandwich?
Always thought it was 'methylated sandwich' referring to the cheapest form of 'booze', methylated spirits
@@phillipharrison7283 yes thanks makes sense. But why “sandwich”. Mick’s wry humor? British expression? Maybe he means that’s the homeless person’s lunch
@@Dan-zq5wt Yes that's the way I looked at it and no spare cash for food. Which in turn, 'Walking clothes line would refer to his emaciated body hanging his clothes from it.
Compare w. Rage Against the Machine. In your face radicalism.
Street Fighting Man is about why Mick IS NOT a street fighter. The Stones were most decidedly NOT revolutionaries. They were about as rebellious as an afternoon tea. They courted the manufactured image of swaggering bad boys when, in reality, they were just the same as so many other people. BTW - there are no electric guitars used on this track. All guitars were processed acoustic guitars.
The Beatles were marketed as the clean cut good guys and the Stones, the bad boys of rock.
As a kid I read my older brothers rock magazines, and High Times.
I'll never forget reading about a cab driver picking up Mick and him wanting change for a $20.
Mick didn't attend the London School of Economics for nuthin, lol
Indeed. The Stones were upper middle class lads from Dartford in Kent. They definitely came from higher class backgrounds than the Beatles, respectfully McCartney, who grew up in council housing in one of the poorest parts of Liverpool.
There's video of Mick on a TV show when he was a kid, rock climbing in 1959.
this album is quite orientated to protests and working class people
A pseudo-protest song sold to the masses for money, and representing their fake image of "regular street 'fighters'". Brian Jones was upper middle class; Mick Jagger was middle/upper-middle class and attended the London School of Economics. In other words, "The Rolling Stones" didn't join their fans on the barricades.
As "The Beatles" were perceived as the "good boys" of rock and roll -- they were already back from their third stint in Hamburg about the time "The Rolling Stones" were becoming a band -- "The Rolling Stones" decided their image would be the "bad boys".
They got their record contract with Decca Records, which had turned down "The Beatles" on the premise that "Guitar-groups are on the way out," on the recommendation of George Harrison of "The Beatles". "The Beatles" were already ascending with their increasing popularity -- among the repercussions was an explosion in guitar sales -- while "The Rolling Stones" were still figuring out who to be.
Too much interruptions