Seems like the Note Grid could be a great way to do generative music with VST instruments or even external MIDI instruments, rather than just with The Grid or your grid note out module. Next video maybe?
This overall view by you is most appreciated by me - it wasn’t clear to me before seeing your description that midi inputs from midi controllers can and do go INTO the note grid, and the note grid is not purely a note generation module.
It seems that the new note modules are convenience objects which free you to make fewer connections, since all individual modules already accept the outputs of the note modules. So in the past you might have to duplicate the routing of pitch via some processing into all output pitch receiving modules now you can do it with one. Or am I missing something?
I'm confused a bit by the Note Grid. Does it support modulating Pitch Bend, not for internal devices but the actual hiRes Pitch Bend Messages send to hardware synths?
If I have a set of chords that I would like to trigger with my midi keyboard. I only want the timing from the key presses not the pitch. Is that possible? For each key press the next chord is played as long as I hold the key. No chords are skipped even if I hold the key for longer than the chord is on the time line
I wish bitwig just made a simple step sequencer module like the grid but that you can load and it can control the vst with out having to plug and configure all the time - MAKE IT EASY
Take notes from the step sequencer that FL Studio has right in the front of their Daw C’mon Bitwig make a module version of this to control vst just drop it in the bottom and it works with all vsts A step sequencer with some added features of course but keep it simple and effective
@@modaroho I'd like a step sequencer in BWS too but FL's step sequencer is 💩. Something far far better than that severely limited ugly little thing please.
There appears to be a problem if you have a note grid on the front of a Drum Machine. The CC out's in the Note Grid don't get passed through into the chains. That means the MIDI modulator doesn't receive the messages from the Note Grid, it gets it from whatever MIDI is coming in from the track itself afaict. You can make it work kinda by manually putting a Note Receiver on the front of every single chain and pointing the input to the Note Grid, but that's quite a hack. Any chance someone could verify this please and see if you think this is by design or is it a bug? Either way I think this isn't what you would expect. There shouldn't be anything special about the Drum Machine Container should there?
I just recreated a device I built in Ableton that generates intermittent Melodie’s. Very cool, and much simpler in BWS! However, when I recorded the MIDI out, instead of getting a sequence of MIDI notes, I got a single note with pitch changes in MPE (I think). Is that expected behaviour? Can I force the Grid to output a new note when the pitch changes?
yes. you need a gate signal, which dissects the notes. if you change pitch, while "gate on" you get these pitchbends. so gate on/off is important. best use case is to use a sample and hold with pitch and gates. this way you get one steady pitch with one gate on.
@@PolarityMusic Thanks! I was thinking that might be the answer - but so far clock timing and quantizing is still challenging. At least I know what specific things to research next!
I may have missed it in the video, but is there a 'note filter' for the Note Input? Like if I want a gate to only be generated by a specific note, or note range? So all other notes outside of the selected filter are ignored?
outside of the grid you can use the "note filter" device. inside the grid you need to add some logic. (compare the incoming note to a value from the pitch module and then use a switch to only allow a specific note to pass)
@@PolarityMusic Thanks for rundown. I'll send a request to Bitwig. Built in filtering setting for the Note Input module would be handy for a future update. (making it easier to build devices that can do per note probability, or per events in specific range, etc). Cheers :)
I wonder whether, using Note Grid, it would be possible to implement something like an Harmonizer Fx similar to "Follow chord" in Cubase/Studio One (or OXI One sequencer or J74 Progressive in Max4Live). The idea would be to write the midi in a certain key (e.g., C Maj) and then have it intelligently "transpose" the midi based on an incoming chord (either from live input or an "arranger/chord" track).
@@mecd4167 I only saw quantization to incoming notes from another track, but no chord recognition and transposition based on that information (similar to what arranger keyboards do). Could you point the time where he does that or something similar?
hey Polarity, I have been following your chord track video. When I recreate with the note grid, but the pitch quainter is not quantized to notes to the chord track. I put the chord track and note track in the layers mode and I am getting notes that are not on the chord track. Any help would be much appreciated it thanks.
@Polarity Music I have been following your chord track video. When I recreate with the note grid, but the pitch quainter is not quantized to notes to the chord track. I put the chord track and note track in the layers mode and I am getting notes that are not on the chord track. Any help would be much appreciated it thanks.
Hmz… it’s getting nerdy. Perhaps some useful examples will follow, but it’s getting to complicated for me. Now the Grid seems complete I hope next version will have something useful for the lesser gods 😅 Or revisit some basic functions, like the browser, or some simple things like the possibility to save the audition level in the browser or audition midi files via the sound on the track instead of a simpel default patch. Don’t get me wrong, still in love with Bitwig 😍
@@PolarityMusic well, that’s very kind of you. But unless you can donate loads of time it would be a waste of your time. Audio production has so many faces that I still can’t find time to dive in sound design. I do understand Serum, but still fail to create sounds I need. Results are almost always based on random luck. Keep on doing what you are doing, I will watch even if I don’t fully understand. Some day I will understand sound design and the Grid 😊
Thanks polarity!
uhh yea, thanks man!
yeah it's wild man. some inspirational stuff here for sure.
thanks a lot for the video, and the one yesterday!
Amazing work as always to both yourself and the folks at Bitwig.
Seems like the Note Grid could be a great way to do generative music with VST instruments or even external MIDI instruments, rather than just with The Grid or your grid note out module. Next video maybe?
Love your channel. Would love to see what you've been up to with the note grid more recently.
thx mate! noted, more note grid stuff soon :)
We asked….
And we received!! 🙏
Very nice demonstration! Thanks 🌻
Some grid devices are just so unintuitive.. until I see your vids, it's like 'ahh, that's how they can be used!' :) Thanks for the inspiration!
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This overall view by you is most appreciated by me - it wasn’t clear to me before seeing your description that midi inputs from midi controllers can and do go INTO the note grid, and the note grid is not purely a note generation module.
yes, its a modular note effect :)
Grids are like FL Studio's Patcher, but actually usable :)
Awesome content! Thanks for sharing the knowledge 🖤.
How will you use Note Grid to generate a B section from a chord progression or melody variation?
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 will try that out 🥳🤩
great tutorial, thanks for sharing
It seems that the new note modules are convenience objects which free you to make fewer connections, since all individual modules already accept the outputs of the note modules. So in the past you might have to duplicate the routing of pitch via some processing into all output pitch receiving modules now you can do it with one. Or am I missing something?
cool, as usual, thx!
Sky's the limit now.
I'm confused a bit by the Note Grid. Does it support modulating Pitch Bend, not for internal devices but the actual hiRes
Pitch Bend Messages send to hardware synths?
If I have a set of chords that I would like to trigger with my midi keyboard. I only want the timing from the key presses not the pitch. Is that possible? For each key press the next chord is played as long as I hold the key. No chords are skipped even if I hold the key for longer than the chord is on the time line
I don't want note grid to keep triggering when I stop the transport, only when I push play. How do I do this?
I wish bitwig just made a simple step sequencer module like the grid but that you can load and it can control the vst with out having to plug and configure all the time - MAKE IT EASY
Take notes from the step sequencer that FL Studio has right in the front of their Daw
C’mon Bitwig make a module version of this to control vst just drop it in the bottom and it works with all vsts
A step sequencer with some added features of course but keep it simple and effective
@@modaroho I'd like a step sequencer in BWS too but FL's step sequencer is 💩. Something far far better than that severely limited ugly little thing please.
There appears to be a problem if you have a note grid on the front of a Drum Machine.
The CC out's in the Note Grid don't get passed through into the chains.
That means the MIDI modulator doesn't receive the messages from the Note Grid, it gets it from whatever MIDI is coming in from the track itself afaict.
You can make it work kinda by manually putting a Note Receiver on the front of every single chain and pointing the input to the Note Grid, but that's quite a hack.
Any chance someone could verify this please and see if you think this is by design or is it a bug?
Either way I think this isn't what you would expect. There shouldn't be anything special about the Drum Machine Container should there?
Haven't tried this with Note Grid yet but I've encountered a similar problem with Drum Racks not playing from within an Instrument Selector container.
I just recreated a device I built in Ableton that generates intermittent Melodie’s. Very cool, and much simpler in BWS!
However, when I recorded the MIDI out, instead of getting a sequence of MIDI notes, I got a single note with pitch changes in MPE (I think). Is that expected behaviour? Can I force the Grid to output a new note when the pitch changes?
yes. you need a gate signal, which dissects the notes. if you change pitch, while "gate on" you get these pitchbends. so gate on/off is important. best use case is to use a sample and hold with pitch and gates. this way you get one steady pitch with one gate on.
@@PolarityMusic Thanks! I was thinking that might be the answer - but so far clock timing and quantizing is still challenging. At least I know what specific things to research next!
I may have missed it in the video, but is there a 'note filter' for the Note Input? Like if I want a gate to only be generated by a specific note, or note range? So all other notes outside of the selected filter are ignored?
outside of the grid you can use the "note filter" device. inside the grid you need to add some logic. (compare the incoming note to a value from the pitch module and then use a switch to only allow a specific note to pass)
@@PolarityMusic Thanks for rundown. I'll send a request to Bitwig. Built in filtering setting for the Note Input module would be handy for a future update. (making it easier to build devices that can do per note probability, or per events in specific range, etc). Cheers :)
Yeah, I was hoping to be able to filter different MIDI channels down different Grid paths, but that doesn’t look possible yet
I wonder whether, using Note Grid, it would be possible to implement something like an Harmonizer Fx similar to "Follow chord" in Cubase/Studio One (or OXI One sequencer or J74 Progressive in Max4Live). The idea would be to write the midi in a certain key (e.g., C Maj) and then have it intelligently "transpose" the midi based on an incoming chord (either from live input or an "arranger/chord" track).
did you not watch the video? that's exactly what he just dd.
@@mecd4167 I only saw quantization to incoming notes from another track, but no chord recognition and transposition based on that information (similar to what arranger keyboards do). Could you point the time where he does that or something similar?
I do appreciate You
15:05 awesome spacy part =^-^=
can we finally make a cthulu with note grid?
I just did a very limited thing like that, yup!
hey Polarity, I have been following your chord track video. When I recreate with the note grid, but the pitch quainter is not quantized to notes to the chord track. I put the chord track and note track in the layers mode and I am getting notes that are not on the chord track. Any help would be much appreciated it thanks.
@Polarity Music I have been following your chord track video. When I recreate with the note grid, but the pitch quainter is not quantized to notes to the chord track. I put the chord track and note track in the layers mode and I am getting notes that are not on the chord track. Any help would be much appreciated it thanks.
I wonder why they not just release note grid module, instead grid note.
Hmz… it’s getting nerdy. Perhaps some useful examples will follow, but it’s getting to complicated for me. Now the Grid seems complete I hope next version will have something useful for the lesser gods 😅 Or revisit some basic functions, like the browser, or some simple things like the possibility to save the audition level in the browser or audition midi files via the sound on the track instead of a simpel default patch. Don’t get me wrong, still in love with Bitwig 😍
can i help you with something getting into the grid?
@@PolarityMusic well, that’s very kind of you. But unless you can donate loads of time it would be a waste of your time. Audio production has so many faces that I still can’t find time to dive in sound design. I do understand Serum, but still fail to create sounds I need. Results are almost always based on random luck. Keep on doing what you are doing, I will watch even if I don’t fully understand. Some day I will understand sound design and the Grid 😊
I come back, I go to and take some headache pills... Bitwig becomes ridiculously complicated...
note grid pad melody generator whil be nice