Dan, trying to catch up to you on these videos! The cold blast this week all the way down to Tenn is the perfect opportunity. You REALLY helped me in many ways on this video, let me enumerate: 1) I had never heard of "Standard Parts Co" for oem type parts! 2) I never knew I could buy customizable weatherpack connector kits 3) You validated my constant thriving to get my camaro back to factory spec 4) Your obsession with testing and showing me how to test the minute part - is REALLY good for me! Resistance, Coils, vacuum tests, solenoid tests, reading the car's manual diagram etc. help me know to apply techniques to anything under that hood - with dollar tools! 5) You also accidentally help me understand and feel better about why I am so different than the rest of my car buddies who just pay someone to pull everything out and just haphazard everything together so they can be at the car show instead of truly restoring the car. I would love to come up to Michigan sometime and do one of your loop adventures with you in my camaro this year.
Thank you for taking the time and share this valuable information, my car is not having this issue but if it ever comes to happen, your video will save the day hopefully. 🤝
@@bitsofwisdom460 Interesting that my Monte was throwing a Code 53 after EGR valve replacement. The CEL would only come on after a highway cruise 55+ MPH for around 10 minutes, never when driving in city. Recently had the CEL stay off, just looking for viable options when the need arises to replace the solenoid. Was looking into a Hyundai one that is normally open and priced very reasonable on eBay to do a possible retrofit, they are used on Mitsubishi and Chrysler products also in mid-2000's.
@@swalmerfrompa I hadn't looked into parts for other brands yet, that was a back up. I started with a part for a GM car, expecting that the ECM driver circuits would be compatible. ECM / PCMs all came from Delco Electronics in those days, so they would tend toward using common specifications for various drivers across different engines. That would help allow different solenoids or other devices to be used on different controllers. Other brands may still work, I just have less data.
Nice, you brought back memories of my testing with a 9 volt battery and suction pump. Mine was in need of electrical component cleaner spray and then it worked as advertised... Good to know there is a replacement!
That test method really does work. Interesting that you could free it up with cleaner spray. I guess the solenoid has a vent, so it can pull in dust, especially if the little filter drops off or breaks.
@@mikebruegger8654 Yes, my original solenoid has lost the filter and I couldn't find one. I didn't even know what it should look like. Now I transferred the one from the new valve I bought for this test.
You can also use a C4 L98 corvette EGR solenoid, even plugs in with our connector albeit a little tight. Only issues are the mount is different but that’s par for the course. Also anyone looking for the EGR temp sender for the EGR valve is still available for the TPI corvette on a few Corvette parts sites.
The L98 version has apparently been cancelled as well. When I heard about this and started digging, I went to some of the Corvette sites, I found a couple of sites with a "reproduction" for certain years that could also probably work, but they were unavailable / out of stock / back ordered. This one ought to work in those applications as well. And yes, the EGR temp sensor from the Corvette works. I used one for my car. I didn't make a separate video, perhaps I should go back and do that. It took a lot of work to verify, but I can confirm that it works. In my 1985, the wiring is much longer than the Corvette model and I built a pigtail extension to prevent modifying the vehicle harness.
@@bitsofwisdom460 That’s unfortunate even the Corvette ones are unavailable, but with your research that solenoid will work. When I had code 32 it was the temp sensor that caused it, I had to splice a longer wire as well IIRC to make it work on my car too. Keeping these car’s emissions equipment up is becoming a real hassle when parts are no longer available.
Good videos. I'm working on an 83 crossfire. Parts geek and advance auto carry a lot of aftermarket parts for these cars. I'm have lots of issues. One stumping me is the wiper/washers. New motors and pumps and they still don't work.
Thank you. I get a lot of parts from Rock Auto. I like Advance, but there isn't one close to me. What is your issue with wipers? I haven't been deep into those yet, but I'll check on it.
@@bitsofwisdom460 put new motor/pump assembly for the front. It worked for about 20 minutes then stopped. The washer worked for about 10 squirts then stopped. The back wiper pump was bad. Replaced with ac Delco replacement. If I hook it up so the inlet has a funnel which I fill it works fine, but when I put it back in the reservoir it squirts 2 squirts of fluid then runs dry
I have a question regarding the EGR Solenoid. There is 2 ports on it. One is a plastic port on top and the other one is a metal port, the metal port one has a vent port behind. Which port goes to the EGR?
The solenoid that I have has the metal port on the end with the connector. The installation diagram that I have from the Cadillac application shows that port (next to the connector) as going to the vacuum source. The port next to the vent would go to the EGR valve. That is how I tested it.
Do you know if there's any replacement solenoids for the fuel vapor canister? I've been told there are two different ones used. I had to get mine from a salvage car since previous owner removed it, but I'm not sure if it's the correct one. It gets warm to the touch when the car is running.
For my '85, the solenoid is built into the canister and is not replaceable. This video goes through the entire purge system with some additional information on the solenoid. ruclips.net/video/q_KS6psFGhg/видео.html I would check to be sure the solenoid is working to pass vacuum on / off when commanded. On the '85, the solenoid is NORMALLY OPEN and power makes it close. The solenoid should be powered and close when the engine is cold and when it is idling. Purge should be off when cold or idling. When you open the throttle, it should turn off and allow flow to the intake manifold. On my car, the solenoid does get rather warm at idle. Warm enough that it is uncomfortable to touch.
Dan, trying to catch up to you on these videos! The cold blast this week all the way down to Tenn is the perfect opportunity. You REALLY helped me in many ways on this video, let me enumerate:
1) I had never heard of "Standard Parts Co" for oem type parts!
2) I never knew I could buy customizable weatherpack connector kits
3) You validated my constant thriving to get my camaro back to factory spec
4) Your obsession with testing and showing me how to test the minute part - is REALLY good for me! Resistance, Coils, vacuum tests, solenoid tests, reading the car's manual diagram etc. help me know to apply techniques to anything under that hood - with dollar tools!
5) You also accidentally help me understand and feel better about why I am so different than the rest of my car buddies who just pay someone to pull everything out and just haphazard everything together so they can be at the car show instead of truly restoring the car. I would love to come up to Michigan sometime and do one of your loop adventures with you in my camaro this year.
Just FYI, I made this video in response to a viewer request for how to deal with this problem.
Thank you for taking the time and share this valuable information, my car is not having this issue but if it ever comes to happen, your video will save the day hopefully. 🤝
You're welcome. It's really a problem when parts are discontinued without an alternative. It was worth the time to find a part.
@@bitsofwisdom460 My greatest wish is that our cars always have some alternative to restore them.
Thanks so much for taking the time to research this!
I am in a similar situation with a 86 Monte Carlo (Carburator) w/305.
Hope that it works for you. I didn't check Monte Carlo, but it seems likely that it would apply.
@@bitsofwisdom460 Interesting that my Monte was throwing a Code 53 after EGR valve replacement. The CEL would only come on after a highway cruise 55+ MPH for around 10 minutes, never when driving in city.
Recently had the CEL stay off, just looking for viable options when the need arises to replace the solenoid.
Was looking into a Hyundai one that is normally open and priced very reasonable on eBay to do a possible retrofit, they are used on Mitsubishi and Chrysler products also in mid-2000's.
@@swalmerfrompa I hadn't looked into parts for other brands yet, that was a back up. I started with a part for a GM car, expecting that the ECM driver circuits would be compatible. ECM / PCMs all came from Delco Electronics in those days, so they would tend toward using common specifications for various drivers across different engines. That would help allow different solenoids or other devices to be used on different controllers. Other brands may still work, I just have less data.
Nice, you brought back memories of my testing with a 9 volt battery and suction pump. Mine was in need of electrical component cleaner spray and then it worked as advertised... Good to know there is a replacement!
That test method really does work. Interesting that you could free it up with cleaner spray. I guess the solenoid has a vent, so it can pull in dust, especially if the little filter drops off or breaks.
Yes, and the foam filter is still there....
@@mikebruegger8654 Yes, my original solenoid has lost the filter and I couldn't find one. I didn't even know what it should look like. Now I transferred the one from the new valve I bought for this test.
You can also use a C4 L98 corvette EGR solenoid, even plugs in with our connector albeit a little tight. Only issues are the mount is different but that’s par for the course.
Also anyone looking for the EGR temp sender for the EGR valve is still available for the TPI corvette on a few Corvette parts sites.
The L98 version has apparently been cancelled as well. When I heard about this and started digging, I went to some of the Corvette sites, I found a couple of sites with a "reproduction" for certain years that could also probably work, but they were unavailable / out of stock / back ordered. This one ought to work in those applications as well.
And yes, the EGR temp sensor from the Corvette works. I used one for my car. I didn't make a separate video, perhaps I should go back and do that. It took a lot of work to verify, but I can confirm that it works. In my 1985, the wiring is much longer than the Corvette model and I built a pigtail extension to prevent modifying the vehicle harness.
@@bitsofwisdom460 That’s unfortunate even the Corvette ones are unavailable, but with your research that solenoid will work. When I had code 32 it was the temp sensor that caused it, I had to splice a longer wire as well IIRC to make it work on my car too. Keeping these car’s emissions equipment up is becoming a real hassle when parts are no longer available.
Good videos. I'm working on an 83 crossfire. Parts geek and advance auto carry a lot of aftermarket parts for these cars. I'm have lots of issues. One stumping me is the wiper/washers. New motors and pumps and they still don't work.
Thank you. I get a lot of parts from Rock Auto. I like Advance, but there isn't one close to me. What is your issue with wipers? I haven't been deep into those yet, but I'll check on it.
@@bitsofwisdom460 put new motor/pump assembly for the front. It worked for about 20 minutes then stopped. The washer worked for about 10 squirts then stopped. The back wiper pump was bad. Replaced with ac Delco replacement. If I hook it up so the inlet has a funnel which I fill it works fine, but when I put it back in the reservoir it squirts 2 squirts of fluid then runs dry
Very informative, thank you for the time and effort.
You're welcome
Great video
Thank you
I have a question regarding the EGR Solenoid. There is 2 ports on it. One is a plastic port on top and the other one is a metal port, the metal port one has a vent port behind. Which port goes to the EGR?
The solenoid that I have has the metal port on the end with the connector. The installation diagram that I have from the Cadillac application shows that port (next to the connector) as going to the vacuum source. The port next to the vent would go to the EGR valve. That is how I tested it.
@bitsofwisdom460 Thank you for the reply really appreciate it.
Do you know if there's any replacement solenoids for the fuel vapor canister? I've been told there are two different ones used. I had to get mine from a salvage car since previous owner removed it, but I'm not sure if it's the correct one. It gets warm to the touch when the car is running.
For my '85, the solenoid is built into the canister and is not replaceable. This video goes through the entire purge system with some additional information on the solenoid. ruclips.net/video/q_KS6psFGhg/видео.html
I would check to be sure the solenoid is working to pass vacuum on / off when commanded. On the '85, the solenoid is NORMALLY OPEN and power makes it close. The solenoid should be powered and close when the engine is cold and when it is idling. Purge should be off when cold or idling. When you open the throttle, it should turn off and allow flow to the intake manifold. On my car, the solenoid does get rather warm at idle. Warm enough that it is uncomfortable to touch.