Okay, I'm not saying don't watch any tutorials. Obviously getting ideas from people is cool. but allow yourself to be a fool and to develop based on your own instincts :)
Obviously, I'm not saying you shouldn't learn new skills. I'm talking specifically to people who struggle to give themselves permission to experiment because they don't think they know enough. I think in large part this is due to watching a lot of really polished/ edited tutorials. I'm just saying give yourself permission to be a fool and try things, even if you feel you don't know everything :) Video is 360p because I couldn’t export in 240p 😛
It's great advice, I got caught up in a similar situation of needing to feel like I'd mastered every aspect of production before I could make things good enough for people to enjoy but you really just end up making nothing for a long time or like me you just stuff all your work into storage in the hopes no-one sees it. Getting over it took a module on a course where I recorded a bunch of songs, I was pulling my hair out over the work I handed in despite spending some time on it but I got a really high grade back. There's only so much you can expect of one person, and that one person is already taking on a huge variety of roles that used to be filled by different people thanks to new technology, so maybe in a lot of ways it's just best to suck out loud and then try and be objective about it after the fact so you can still improve on it in ways that matter to you.
this vid was recommended for me for some reason, but i thought i'd share my thoughts: i used to get so caught up in the idea of sound design (not just specifically synthesis, but effects, arrangement, mixing, etc). i started to get into more older club music (late 80s-late 90s) and tried to replicate those sounds. what i learnt is that a lot of people back then used samples/synths straight out the box and just tried to make them more interesting with effects. i totally abandoned the idea of making these 'interesting/complex' sounds and just doing whatever made it sound fun. low and behold i ended up learning the stuff through experimentation that i initially wanted to all those years ago from tutorials, even better was that the way to achieve these sounds was WAY simpler than the tutorials make it out to be. focus more on arrangement, notation, dynamic, just fun stuff. getting too bogged down in the 'science' behind sound kills your creative juice. when you watch *'actually successful'* musicians talk about their music they don't talk about all this jargon. they're focused on feeling above all. anyone can copy a video, learn basic to advanced sound design. but you can't teach people to trust their creative instincts. (respect for the vid btw).
Wow. This is just incredible. These thoughts have been in the back of my head for so long and it seems that I knew everything you said. But it is much stronger when you hear those thoughts with your ears. Thank you very much! A new sub for sure.
This is a point well taken. It's all about experimentation and having fun with it! On the other hand , you've got a guy like Polarity, who's knowledge is so mind-blowingly deep that you just marvel at what he can do in real time with Bitwig and the grid. Obviously he spends a great deal of time doing exactly what you're talking about here. Anyway, I really appreciate this reminder that to achieve expertise in any discipline it's important to experiment and find your own path while gaining experience. It's great to have knowledge about the tools and techniques, but the whole point is to create something uniquely your own. Thanks for a great video!
Thank you! I’m definitely not trying to say tutorials don’t have value. I’m more saying that the over consumption of tutorials to no real end, is not helpful in my opinion 😊
@@GarronsMusic Of course! I completely understand and agree. That was the point of my comment - that experimentation and discovery are the keys to finding your own voice and becoming a "master" in your own right.
This is a great video and fantastic advice. Please, if you have more to share, especially about the progression from zero to amateur hobby producers, please share.
some of the most fun I've had in my DAW is just messing around with stuff. what happens if i feed reverb into a drum glitcher and autotune? what happens if i run dexed into serumfx and use the audio in as an fm source for serumfx's own oscillators? what if i sidechain the bitrate of my entire track to my snare, or even a formant shifter on my hihats every time my snare hits? you can come up with some crazy stuff, and even if you try 20 ideas and they don't work, you'll understand why they don't work, what problems they caused, and from that knowledge you usually at least understand more about SOMETHING, whether it's the plugins you used or just why that idea isn't one that's used. or maybe you'll even come up with something cool - after all, someone had to load a saw chord into a convolution ir over a riddim bass, or a gate after a snare reverb, or even a sidechain from a kick to the bass. almost all good things in music come from experimentation!
Pretty much what I did couple years ago. At a certain point you're just watching the same content on how to recreate stuff that's already been done thousand times. How is that being creative? Not at all.
i don't have problem with tutorials of course i wanna how to create certain sounds on synths or how to use certain effect i have more problem with these tutorials made by people who obviously don't know what they are doing, click baiting or just not realizing that the sound that they made sounds like shit. a lot of online tutorials are going to be like this it's just about being able to filter the good advice and practices from the sea of clickbait and misinformation
That’s really not what I was suggesting in the video. This video was aimed at people who have a good amount of knowledge but are afraid to fail at stuff. I’m not aiming this video at someone who doesn’t know the basics
I always say: if you need effects, you messed up in the sound design department. Unless of course you have a specific reason that's way too labour intensive to do for every bit of sound. But.... Many times effects get used to hide stuff; "make it sound a bit nicer". Yeah... Right 😁😂😅
When you said 'maybe this will sound better as a pad instead of a lead', I knew this video was a genuine take on real processes. That's how I work all the time. In my streams it feels like Ive let the viewer down sometimes because I didn't follow the originally intended plan, but that's the reality. Great video. ✨🪐
Obviously, I'm not saying you shouldn't learn new skills.
I'm talking specifically to people who struggle to give themselves permission to experiment because they don't think they know enough.
I think in large part this is due to watching a lot of really polished/ edited tutorials.
I'm just saying give yourself permission to be a fool and try things, even if you feel you don't know everything :)
Video is 360p because I couldn’t export in 240p 😛
STOP DRIVING ME OUT OF BUSINESS :D (great video)
360p kru
STOP Watching Tutorials, Trust Yourself. (And Polarity)
Legend!
It's great advice, I got caught up in a similar situation of needing to feel like I'd mastered every aspect of production before I could make things good enough for people to enjoy but you really just end up making nothing for a long time or like me you just stuff all your work into storage in the hopes no-one sees it.
Getting over it took a module on a course where I recorded a bunch of songs, I was pulling my hair out over the work I handed in despite spending some time on it but I got a really high grade back. There's only so much you can expect of one person, and that one person is already taking on a huge variety of roles that used to be filled by different people thanks to new technology, so maybe in a lot of ways it's just best to suck out loud and then try and be objective about it after the fact so you can still improve on it in ways that matter to you.
Thanks so much!
I think we all end up in this situation at some point! It’s great you found something to pull you out of it 😃
Exactly… it’s art man. There’s no rules.
true. just decide with an intention in mind. then it can't be bad
this vid was recommended for me for some reason, but i thought i'd share my thoughts: i used to get so caught up in the idea of sound design (not just specifically synthesis, but effects, arrangement, mixing, etc). i started to get into more older club music (late 80s-late 90s) and tried to replicate those sounds. what i learnt is that a lot of people back then used samples/synths straight out the box and just tried to make them more interesting with effects. i totally abandoned the idea of making these 'interesting/complex' sounds and just doing whatever made it sound fun. low and behold i ended up learning the stuff through experimentation that i initially wanted to all those years ago from tutorials, even better was that the way to achieve these sounds was WAY simpler than the tutorials make it out to be. focus more on arrangement, notation, dynamic, just fun stuff. getting too bogged down in the 'science' behind sound kills your creative juice. when you watch *'actually successful'* musicians talk about their music they don't talk about all this jargon. they're focused on feeling above all.
anyone can copy a video, learn basic to advanced sound design. but you can't teach people to trust their creative instincts. (respect for the vid btw).
Wow. This is just incredible. These thoughts have been in the back of my head for so long and it seems that I knew everything you said. But it is much stronger when you hear those thoughts with your ears. Thank you very much! A new sub for sure.
Thanks so much! Glad the video resonated 😃
This is a point well taken. It's all about experimentation and having fun with it! On the other hand , you've got a guy like Polarity, who's knowledge is so mind-blowingly deep that you just marvel at what he can do in real time with Bitwig and the grid. Obviously he spends a great deal of time doing exactly what you're talking about here. Anyway, I really appreciate this reminder that to achieve expertise in any discipline it's important to experiment and find your own path while gaining experience. It's great to have knowledge about the tools and techniques, but the whole point is to create something uniquely your own. Thanks for a great video!
Thank you!
I’m definitely not trying to say tutorials don’t have value. I’m more saying that the over consumption of tutorials to no real end, is not helpful in my opinion 😊
@@GarronsMusic Of course! I completely understand and agree. That was the point of my comment - that experimentation and discovery are the keys to finding your own voice and becoming a "master" in your own right.
Oh man ! You really hit the nail on the head. That's the way we should learn Logic. Just have fun with it and grow.
Great video. Subbed!
This is a great video and fantastic advice. Please, if you have more to share, especially about the progression from zero to amateur hobby producers, please share.
Love the video. Out of curiosity, what program and plugins were you using?
Thanks for the advice, I stoped watching after 10 seconds 🤣 just kiddin :)
Indeed. Too much same sounding masterclass youtube "experts" stuff out.
I remember cymatic has some graph philosophy about music production. But I think it's good to get to learn some basic music theory tho ?
some of the most fun I've had in my DAW is just messing around with stuff. what happens if i feed reverb into a drum glitcher and autotune? what happens if i run dexed into serumfx and use the audio in as an fm source for serumfx's own oscillators? what if i sidechain the bitrate of my entire track to my snare, or even a formant shifter on my hihats every time my snare hits? you can come up with some crazy stuff, and even if you try 20 ideas and they don't work, you'll understand why they don't work, what problems they caused, and from that knowledge you usually at least understand more about SOMETHING, whether it's the plugins you used or just why that idea isn't one that's used. or maybe you'll even come up with something cool - after all, someone had to load a saw chord into a convolution ir over a riddim bass, or a gate after a snare reverb, or even a sidechain from a kick to the bass. almost all good things in music come from experimentation!
Amen
Great video!
Also, loved the sounds!
I really needed to hear this. thank you
🙏🍀
Didn’t watch the video yet but the title is spot on !
a tutorial about stop watching tutorials; got it.
Pretty much what I did couple years ago. At a certain point you're just watching the same content on how to recreate stuff that's already been done thousand times. How is that being creative? Not at all.
OP "Don't watch so many tutorials trust your own ear...now here's a tutorial" 😂💀
And more to come 😉
@@GarronsMusic I liked it was just too funny to pass up
I already have Rapid, so I'm all set!
Yes there is some truth about it, Yes, do you think there is reason that lots modern music sound the same?
Well said.
Well said!
Cool..Good advice
i don't have problem with tutorials of course i wanna how to create certain sounds on synths or how to use certain effect i have more problem with these tutorials made by people who obviously don't know what they are doing, click baiting or just not realizing that the sound that they made sounds like shit. a lot of online tutorials are going to be like this it's just about being able to filter the good advice and practices from the sea of clickbait and misinformation
a tutorial about stop watching tutorials :)
😉
yeah cmon, just do it. with no idea how. you can do it
That’s really not what I was suggesting in the video. This video was aimed at people who have a good amount of knowledge but are afraid to fail at stuff.
I’m not aiming this video at someone who doesn’t know the basics
Idk I like the concept of what you are saying, but with such a click baitey title your bound to catch some misdirected flack
I...teach these stuffs so... =))
I always say: if you need effects, you messed up in the sound design department. Unless of course you have a specific reason that's way too labour intensive to do for every bit of sound. But.... Many times effects get used to hide stuff; "make it sound a bit nicer". Yeah... Right 😁😂😅
That really depends on the genre, I would say fairly Raw synth sounds only work in specific genres.
@@GarronsMusic yeah, that's true....
this flat out just isn't true my dude.
When you said 'maybe this will sound better as a pad instead of a lead', I knew this video was a genuine take on real processes. That's how I work all the time. In my streams it feels like Ive let the viewer down sometimes because I didn't follow the originally intended plan, but that's the reality. Great video. ✨🪐