@@DUBS606 Lmao! I love that he saw it coming. I sure as hell didn't. I thought she'd focus on his crimes against the family. I really hope she and the boys forgive him. He was literally misguided and he's taking responsibility for his actions and he knows how wrong they were. He also knows y they were wrong (eg, he understands getting rid of the alternative wudnt get him a family) so he knows better than to operate in his previous manner again.
Lois can be really petty at times. Especially when you consider how this episode drove home the point that most of the articles that she ever wrote about Superman probably contained at least *some* lies to cover her personal involvement with him.
@@daniels7907 Consent. Agency. Nothing is petty abt resenting having those things taken from you. He didn't ask her to lie, it wud b petty if she was angry abt that. He took away her choice and made her complicit in something she'd never have agreed to against her will. That's a gross violation.
@@insomnia610 - Except that she was an *employee* of a newspaper that he *owned!* I think that Lois got too accustomed to being such a star reporter that, for her, this in many ways a bigger grievance than all the supervillain stuff he did. Lois is quite aggressive when she is in reporter mode, and her flaw is that she is not objective. For example, she would have gotten more mileage challenging the legality of Ally feeding her converts hallucinogens to gain their compliance (which is *extremely* illegal IRL) versus focusing on her sister's story, which made it personal and called her journalistic integrity into question. Other than when Lois is shrieking at her sons, the angriest that we've seen her is when her stories get disputed.
Clark may have told him the story of how much it cost him in flowers back when Lois found out that he sometimes eavesdropped on her with super-hearing. 😁
God I love Adam Rayner and his british accent as Tal-Rho. His interactions with Clark, Lois and the boys have always been great. But these more recent ones have been exceptionally phenominal as he is really starting to become good. He is honestly my favorite character in the show.
Clark may have told his brother about the time he had to spend a lot of money on flowers because Lois found out that he was eavesdropping on her with super-hearing. Tal-Rho, having been an evil genius/corrupt businessman, probably has all kinds of stashes of money hidden where even the DoD and the IRS can't find them. "Kal, do you mind if we stop at a bank, then a flower shop?"
Adam Rayner is what makes Tal likeable depsite what he has done. I wish Tal had not gone as far as he did because I think his interactions with the Kents as Bro/Uncle Tal would have been amazing.
lol, tal is a clown........... i like that he was never actually really pure evil..... he was just fulfiling his destiny the way his father planned for him, same as kal
I have a feeling Lana and Tal Rho/Morgan Edge are gonna get together in this world as well. And John Henry will be with Lucy, since Lois is with Clark.
I actually wonder the opposite, will he be disappointed when he finds out that this Human "goddess" his other self married was just Lana, whom he mostly found annoying? Even worse, on Bizarro Earth she was just a flirty bar waitress who later joined a cult! Thus calling his counterpart's taste into question! Besides, can you really see Tal-Rho with Human stepdaughters?
I didn’t expect Tal Rho’s redemption arc to continue in this episode. My only quibble with this is that I want him to make amends with all the people he hurt, not just Clark and Lois. He caused at least one person to die, completely erased that Leslie’s character’s real identity (she’s still in prison right??), and probably caused a lot of people to have PTSD. I truly hope the show has him try to make amends in some way instead of him only caring about people he views as important to Superman. I know this is baby steps but I hope it’s not like “okay he said sorry, everything is good now!” Also, how did Clark get him out of the holding cell?
I agree. I don't want it to be easy forgiveness for Tal either. That's cheap storytelling. I hope it's slow because what's interesting about Tal Rho rn is that he's ambiguous and it's a wild card to have someone like that on the side of Lois/Clark who are definite good guys. People don't change overnight even ones with so much time to think about where they went wrong. So it's the right step that he only promises he won't hurt anyone Lois cares about again and not that he won't hurt anyone ever. One of the best things about Superman is his belief in humanity and a Superman show should depict Superman inspiring others too. DBZ fans used to joke about Goku, the main character, turning all the villains he beat into good guys through his interactions with them. Superman is a more inspirational character than Goku and I want to see him inspire people on this show.
@@femalerevan Yes, exactly. I hate when shows have bad redemption arcs for the villains. You bring up a good point about his gray morality and I like that - it's going to be interesting for sure. I agree that Superman is an inspirational character and I love how this show is handling that.
@@jyotihodges4345 That's an interesting idea - if he saves the world publicly, would people forgive him? Or would they say, "You just did this so we would think you're good!"
@@HailSocialite As Clark stated in one show, " Half the world thinks he is a savior that can do no wrong, the other half after twenty years still think he is an advance scout of a planet invasion." Odd enough the actor for Tal Rho and the woman that plays Lara Zor-El seem to have the same tone of voice. Like she match his tone so it would appear that Tal have more of his mother's wit. It may just be me, so I can very easy be wrong. Side note, I am 43 years old with more than a twenty year age gap from my religious Baptist aunt and we have a problem with snide humor. So the hologram A.I. of Lara Zor-El dealing with her half human grandchildren teenagers should be humorous.
Lois Lane has always have strong and big personality.. Even in the original Superman with Christopher Reeve, even in the Smallville series, every version of Superman Lois Lane was always a strong, independent and confident woman.. And you can clearly see it in this series too!! But that's okay cz that's what makes her an outstanding reporter and journalist and that's what Clark Kent fell in love with..
When it comes to driving Superman crazy when he’s busy saving the world, yes, is not a good thing. There are some bad aspects of her personality that people consider strong and big. They’re not. Having Superman as a husband and protection enables her to treat anyone however she wants and get away with it, even if it’s bad treatment. That’s not good and no should agree with that. Passion is no excuse for rudeness.
I love that he brought her flowers. It reminds me of when people actually truly apologized for their misdeeds instead of a flippant few words. Back when we actually thought about the other person's feelings.
@Gabriel Stone having Supergirl help save the world doesn't make it not Superman's story. I'm not actually looking forward to bringing Supergirl in, simply ignoring her existence leaves more of a hole in the plot than anything.
I do believe the creators have said this one is more of an alternate universe. & is separate from the Arrowverse. Of course I do believe Diiggle was around last season. So In my opinion just roll with it.
One other thing that proves this is a different Earth to Earth Prime is that its Adam Rayner as Edge instead of Adrian Pasdar, who played the actual Morgan Edge in Supergirl
@@wadehallen yeah, you clearly don't have a problem with misogynistic writing. Since misogyny doesn't affect you in the real world and you don't seem to care about the female characters being treated well in the show. Good for you, man with a small mind.
@@mahbubamizanmurshed3394 you sound dumb right now, it was literally one moment she had while she was hurting and they later on reconciled, if you’re disgusted with something as little as this, I don’t see how you’ve made it through life this long. Just stop watching the show if you’re going to leave comments like this
The part where he admitted to his feelings towards Lois were fueled by anger and rage is kind of sad when you think about the fact that he really could've had a real family in Clark, Lois and the boys if he only realised it sooner.
If Clark needed help to destroy the pendant, I don't get why he just didn't ask Jordan to help him. Superman went to Jon-El for help even though his powers are weakened on earth prime, and Jordan has gotten pretty powerful this season so I don't see why he didn't just ask him.
@@rokomarkov3077 he's the same age as Jon-El. Jordan and Jonathan are twin brothers and considering Jon-El is Jonathan's counterpart, than that means Jordan and Jon-El are the same age as well. So you saying Jordan's too young doesn't really explain why Clark didn't just ask Jordan for help to destroy the pendant.
@@envoyeli2892 As we see in the show, Jordan's powers fluctuate and are very unstable. At his low point he is much weaker that Jon El, but at his high point he is much stronger. Tal Ro doesn't fluctuate and has a complete control over his powers.
Hey Lois, your entire parenting style is an example of how you hold your sons to a higher standard than you and Clark hold *yourselves!* Awwwww, are you upset that somebody who you can't just banish to their room got mad at *you* for *lying* to them? Don't complain about double-standards you hypocrite!
@@insomnia610 - Because at least he actually *does* literally save the world. But Lois is, to be brutally honest, just a thrill-seeker who has abused her close relationship with Superman to write heavily-redacted stories of their adventures together. All while *lying* to everyone around her. As Lana said, she thought that Lois was a friend that she could trust. But now she can't even trust that their friendship was ever real, or if it was just another one of Lois's lies to help maintain her cover story.
@@daniels7907 She had to lie just as much as he did. U think he cud go on saving the world in the same way if Lois didn't heavily redact her stories? How abt their kids? Think they'd be able to have lives of any kind? Speaking of the boys, they're proof that what u're calling being brutally honest is actually just an untrue statement prompted by your dislike for Lois. Thrill seekers don't make families out of their thrills. There cudnt be anything that's less of a thrill and more of a terrifying responsibility than having and raising half alien children. Lana herself has lied to protect her children (eg, hiding Sara's post suicide attempt therapy so she cud deal in private without gossip n other such nonsense) and she's going to continue to do so (now abt this). It's a basic requirement of parenting. I'm also certain that if she had information abt her spouse that wud have had a devastating impact if ppl found out, she'd keep it to herself too. It is absolutely a double standard.
@@daniels7907 what is your problem? 😂do you even want to enjoy the show or just throw out negativity. First you had a problem with lana behavior towards lois, now you have a problem with lois?
"I told you she'd bring that up." 🤣🤣🤣
I love that she remembers that
@@DUBS606 Lmao! I love that he saw it coming. I sure as hell didn't. I thought she'd focus on his crimes against the family. I really hope she and the boys forgive him. He was literally misguided and he's taking responsibility for his actions and he knows how wrong they were. He also knows y they were wrong (eg, he understands getting rid of the alternative wudnt get him a family) so he knows better than to operate in his previous manner again.
Lois can be really petty at times. Especially when you consider how this episode drove home the point that most of the articles that she ever wrote about Superman probably contained at least *some* lies to cover her personal involvement with him.
@@daniels7907 Consent. Agency. Nothing is petty abt resenting having those things taken from you. He didn't ask her to lie, it wud b petty if she was angry abt that. He took away her choice and made her complicit in something she'd never have agreed to against her will. That's a gross violation.
@@insomnia610 - Except that she was an *employee* of a newspaper that he *owned!* I think that Lois got too accustomed to being such a star reporter that, for her, this in many ways a bigger grievance than all the supervillain stuff he did. Lois is quite aggressive when she is in reporter mode, and her flaw is that she is not objective. For example, she would have gotten more mileage challenging the legality of Ally feeding her converts hallucinogens to gain their compliance (which is *extremely* illegal IRL) versus focusing on her sister's story, which made it personal and called her journalistic integrity into question. Other than when Lois is shrieking at her sons, the angriest that we've seen her is when her stories get disputed.
"There's no need for name calling" LOL🤣
That line always cracks me up.
"Theres no need for name calling" I love that line so much for some reason
Me too.
"is everything my fault today?" don't know why, but that line got me hahaha
Well....😂😂😂😂
maybe, perhaps
When it comes to driving Superman crazy when he’s busy saving the world, yes, it can be her fault.
@@algordo1997 When it comes to driving Superman crazy when he’s busy saving the world, yes, it can be her fault.
He brought flowers 🤣🤣🤣
Clark may have told him the story of how much it cost him in flowers back when Lois found out that he sometimes eavesdropped on her with super-hearing. 😁
They were peonies 🤣🤣🤣
That part was funny 😂
God I love Adam Rayner and his british accent as Tal-Rho. His interactions with Clark, Lois and the boys have always been great. But these more recent ones have been exceptionally phenominal as he is really starting to become good. He is honestly my favorite character in the show.
Inorite? He's got some good theatre chops. Hopefully we see him again
Love his British accent. I wish we see him become part of the family in the upcoming episodes.
He brought flowers 💐 🤣
He’s like “please can I have my brother 😭”
Also, I want to know how that conversation went. Did Tal just ask Clark to stop by the flower shop after they left the prison? 😂
Does weren't flowers she said they were something else
@@edenramos9686 Peonies. They're a type of flower. Rose family.
Clark may have told his brother about the time he had to spend a lot of money on flowers because Lois found out that he was eavesdropping on her with super-hearing. Tal-Rho, having been an evil genius/corrupt businessman, probably has all kinds of stashes of money hidden where even the DoD and the IRS can't find them.
"Kal, do you mind if we stop at a bank, then a flower shop?"
Adam Rayner is what makes Tal likeable depsite what he has done. I wish Tal had not gone as far as he did because I think his interactions with the Kents as Bro/Uncle Tal would have been amazing.
Tal is giving off Loki vibes.
@@taputechnic In season 1 he was like Raditz, in season 2 he was like Loki 😄
lol, tal is a clown........... i like that he was never actually really pure evil..... he was just fulfiling his destiny the way his father planned for him, same as kal
0:35, It's a peace offering. "Surprise!!!"
I have a feeling Lana and Tal Rho/Morgan Edge are gonna get together in this world as well. And John Henry will be with Lucy, since Lois is with Clark.
Yeah. But Lucy really have to apologize to Lois for what she’s done for Allie. And Tal-Rho need to start making it up for Clark.
I actually wonder the opposite, will he be disappointed when he finds out that this Human "goddess" his other self married was just Lana, whom he mostly found annoying? Even worse, on Bizarro Earth she was just a flirty bar waitress who later joined a cult! Thus calling his counterpart's taste into question! Besides, can you really see Tal-Rho with Human stepdaughters?
@@daniels7907 Yes😂
@@daniels7907 Tal-Rho with human step-daughters...That made me laugh out loud 🤣 I want that sitcom
I getting some real Vegeta vibes with Tal-Rho, i really hope they don't kill him off.
More Yamcha
@@melissaclark1051lol no
@@melissaclark1051Enough with the Yamcha hate from both of you. It’s the DBZ’s writer’s fault that he is the way he is.
More Raditz than Vegeta 😁 Given that Raditz is the brother
@@TDKiller415 Raditz never turned good.
I didn’t expect Tal Rho’s redemption arc to continue in this episode. My only quibble with this is that I want him to make amends with all the people he hurt, not just Clark and Lois. He caused at least one person to die, completely erased that Leslie’s character’s real identity (she’s still in prison right??), and probably caused a lot of people to have PTSD. I truly hope the show has him try to make amends in some way instead of him only caring about people he views as important to Superman. I know this is baby steps but I hope it’s not like “okay he said sorry, everything is good now!”
Also, how did Clark get him out of the holding cell?
I agree. I don't want it to be easy forgiveness for Tal either. That's cheap storytelling. I hope it's slow because what's interesting about Tal Rho rn is that he's ambiguous and it's a wild card to have someone like that on the side of Lois/Clark who are definite good guys. People don't change overnight even ones with so much time to think about where they went wrong. So it's the right step that he only promises he won't hurt anyone Lois cares about again and not that he won't hurt anyone ever. One of the best things about Superman is his belief in humanity and a Superman show should depict Superman inspiring others too. DBZ fans used to joke about Goku, the main character, turning all the villains he beat into good guys through his interactions with them. Superman is a more inspirational character than Goku and I want to see him inspire people on this show.
He will need to save the world in front of everyone for the world to forgive him.
@@femalerevan Yes, exactly. I hate when shows have bad redemption arcs for the villains. You bring up a good point about his gray morality and I like that - it's going to be interesting for sure. I agree that Superman is an inspirational character and I love how this show is handling that.
@@jyotihodges4345 That's an interesting idea - if he saves the world publicly, would people forgive him? Or would they say, "You just did this so we would think you're good!"
@@HailSocialite As Clark stated in one show, " Half the world thinks he is a savior that can do no wrong, the other half after twenty years still think he is an advance scout of a planet invasion."
Odd enough the actor for Tal Rho and the woman that plays Lara Zor-El seem to have the same tone of voice. Like she match his tone so it would appear that Tal have more of his mother's wit. It may just be me, so I can very easy be wrong.
Side note, I am 43 years old with more than a twenty year age gap from my religious Baptist aunt and we have a problem with snide humor.
So the hologram A.I. of Lara Zor-El dealing with her half human grandchildren teenagers should be humorous.
the flowers were a nice touch 😊
Lois Lane has always have strong and big personality.. Even in the original Superman with Christopher Reeve, even in the Smallville series, every version of Superman Lois Lane was always a strong, independent and confident woman.. And you can clearly see it in this series too!! But that's okay cz that's what makes her an outstanding reporter and journalist and that's what Clark Kent fell in love with..
When it comes to driving Superman crazy when he’s busy saving the world, yes, is not a good thing. There are some bad aspects of her personality that people consider strong and big. They’re not. Having Superman as a husband and protection enables her to treat anyone however she wants and get away with it, even if it’s bad treatment. That’s not good and no should agree with that. Passion is no excuse for rudeness.
I love how excited she was to figure out Lana's deal.
There’s no need for name calling
*Before Lois walks in*
Clark: Let's hope she's in a good mood today.
*Lois comes in screaming and upset*
Clark: sh*t
Clark hates Kyle? 😂
he neverl will say yes but deep down he wnna kill him for take lana
I love that he brought her flowers. It reminds me of when people actually truly apologized for their misdeeds instead of a flippant few words. Back when we actually thought about the other person's feelings.
Wow is everything my fault today.
its funny that if this plan was used faster. the colliding wont happen.
lane and irons are heroes but damn they hiprocite
the one thing that bugs me about this show is that whenever they need 2 Kryptonians to get things done they never call Supergirl.
@Gabriel Stone having Supergirl help save the world doesn't make it not Superman's story. I'm not actually looking forward to bringing Supergirl in, simply ignoring her existence leaves more of a hole in the plot than anything.
I do believe the creators have said this one is more of an alternate universe. & is separate from the Arrowverse. Of course I do believe Diiggle was around last season. So In my opinion just roll with it.
supergirl is currently not on earth
Supergirl had atrocious writing so it would be interesting to see a well written supergirl on the show.
She's too busy vacuuming & cleaning houses. Plus she has dinner to prepare so not much time to play hero.
One other thing that proves this is a different Earth to Earth Prime is that its Adam Rayner as Edge instead of Adrian Pasdar, who played the actual Morgan Edge in Supergirl
And Lana never gets called out on her misogyny and jealousy. This show is starting to disgust me.
Well you can always stop watching it if you don't like it anymore. I however freaking love this show.
@@wadehallen yeah, you clearly don't have a problem with misogynistic writing. Since misogyny doesn't affect you in the real world and you don't seem to care about the female characters being treated well in the show. Good for you, man with a small mind.
@@mahbubamizanmurshed3394 you sound dumb right now, it was literally one moment she had while she was hurting and they later on reconciled, if you’re disgusted with something as little as this, I don’t see how you’ve made it through life this long. Just stop watching the show if you’re going to leave comments like this
@@wadehallen I'm with you brother. CW never made a show like this. Hell, it's even better than arrow and flash by a really high level! F these haters.
@@mahbubamizanmurshed3394 oh shut up
That was a pretty good apology from Tal.
The part where he admitted to his feelings towards Lois were fueled by anger and rage is kind of sad when you think about the fact that he really could've had a real family in Clark, Lois and the boys if he only realised it sooner.
If Clark needed help to destroy the pendant, I don't get why he just didn't ask Jordan to help him. Superman went to Jon-El for help even though his powers are weakened on earth prime, and Jordan has gotten pretty powerful this season so I don't see why he didn't just ask him.
Jordans still so young
@@rokomarkov3077 he's the same age as Jon-El. Jordan and Jonathan are twin brothers and considering Jon-El is Jonathan's counterpart, than that means Jordan and Jon-El are the same age as well. So you saying Jordan's too young doesn't really explain why Clark didn't just ask Jordan for help to destroy the pendant.
@@envoyeli2892 As we see in the show, Jordan's powers fluctuate and are very unstable. At his low point he is much weaker that Jon El, but at his high point he is much stronger. Tal Ro doesn't fluctuate and has a complete control over his powers.
@@envoyeli2892 Jon-El has clearly had training from his dad to use his powers. Jordan hasn't.
Jon-el was more powerful and trained than Jordan at the time
They were sure to forgive Lucy very quick...
I never seen her so mad like that😊
When she lashed out at Jonathan I'd say she was angrier
Tough day and not easy to clark position, shows lois his brother makes some forgiveness is longer road to forgiveness. What he done.
bring in Kara for help
She doesn't exist on that Earth. S&L and Stargirl aren't on Earth Prime.
I know tal-roh isnt common but i kinda want to see more of him in other DC stuff...
Family vibes
I may have to buy season 2.
The other line I thought of is
"I'll never hurt another person you love"
-"What if I love the entire human race?"
S&L season 1 was basically like Goku/Raditz in DBZ
S&L season 2 is the Goku/Raditz we all want to see in DB Super
WAWAWA Such a big baby!!! Mommy doesn't put me first!!!!
Oh boy this is not going to end well
🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷 lol!!
2:35
Why would clark have to convince lois in letting tal rho help him?
Like what's she gonna do about it? -;;
I don't think u understand how marriage and family work.
If Tal-Rho wants to be a part of his brother's left then getting his sister-in-law on board is kind of important
Why do they have to make Lois a crazy feminist?
Just how is she crazy? Or do u think feminist automatically goes with crazy?
She's literally always been. You clearly don't read comics books.
@@RavenPendragon14 She's always been crazy or a feminist? Those 2 things are not married
I really don't like this Lois I know plenty do but I find her to be very 1 note and quite annoying no where near the quality of the smallville Lois
I'm still never gonna forgive Tal-Rho, he's a misanthropic narcissist
Hey Lois, your entire parenting style is an example of how you hold your sons to a higher standard than you and Clark hold *yourselves!* Awwwww, are you upset that somebody who you can't just banish to their room got mad at *you* for *lying* to them? Don't complain about double-standards you hypocrite!
She's upset that a man who did the exact same thing gets a pass.
@@insomnia610 - Because at least he actually *does* literally save the world. But Lois is, to be brutally honest, just a thrill-seeker who has abused her close relationship with Superman to write heavily-redacted stories of their adventures together. All while *lying* to everyone around her. As Lana said, she thought that Lois was a friend that she could trust. But now she can't even trust that their friendship was ever real, or if it was just another one of Lois's lies to help maintain her cover story.
@@daniels7907 She had to lie just as much as he did. U think he cud go on saving the world in the same way if Lois didn't heavily redact her stories? How abt their kids? Think they'd be able to have lives of any kind? Speaking of the boys, they're proof that what u're calling being brutally honest is actually just an untrue statement prompted by your dislike for Lois. Thrill seekers don't make families out of their thrills. There cudnt be anything that's less of a thrill and more of a terrifying responsibility than having and raising half alien children.
Lana herself has lied to protect her children (eg, hiding Sara's post suicide attempt therapy so she cud deal in private without gossip n other such nonsense) and she's going to continue to do so (now abt this). It's a basic requirement of parenting. I'm also certain that if she had information abt her spouse that wud have had a devastating impact if ppl found out, she'd keep it to herself too. It is absolutely a double standard.
@@daniels7907 what is your problem? 😂do you even want to enjoy the show or just throw out negativity. First you had a problem with lana behavior towards lois, now you have a problem with lois?
Lana needs to get over herself