Repairing Rusty Ford Model A Rear Body Corners
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- The drivers side of the 1930/31 Ford Model A Roadster is getting close to completion. The last patch panel that needs to be welded up and installed is the rear corner of the quarter panel. This area tends to rust away on a good amount of roadsters and coupes. The panel is fairly complex and doesn't fit the best. Matt has to change the bottom flange on the patch to obtain a good fitting panel, which can be quite common for any type of patch panel. There a few small pieces Matt needs to fabricate to complete the wheel wells and then it on to the passenger door!! Thanks for watching and we hope you enjoy these common rust repair videos!!
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Matt please do more of these type of videos..... I love all of these
We will try to squeeze more in!!
You've got a lot more patience than I have, but I do appreciate your skill and experience.
Thanks for watching!!
Nice work, Matt. It’s a real gift to know what is ‘good enough’ for a particular project & not get bogged down trying to make ever detail ‘Perfect’. I also am amazed at how you can juggle so many big projects and keep your balance.
Matt is a rare breed of people that can juggle so much and keep it all straight
Matt is real good at showing and talking his way of doing things and makes it interesting for common people, love going on his trips to find cars and parts very interesting, makes everything fun to watch what he does, keep them videos coming and just can't get enough
Another great Way to start my day, Watching a humble guy that actually knows what he is doing with metal !
Thanks Matt
Thanks for watching!!!
Still really good work Matt. Im a fabricator/welder, and ive seen the so called experts, and they don't get that close. 👍
Thanks for the kind words!!
Good enough!!! Please continue.
Your "good enough" work is still better then most shops "best" work lol!
We try to stay humble. There any many metal fabrication gurus that wouldn't except what we did as good. Just trying to do the best possible work we can
I would take a welded in patch panel over any body putty panel any day of the week. Thumbs Up!
I have been a body man all of my life. I have built a lot of hot rods. Mostly Customers I am retired now but I have worked in a lot of custom shops. I enjoy watching you work. You’re a lucky man to have what you have you do a pretty nice job. I am a perfectionist but I think you do pretty good
Love your content no drama just sharing knowledge.im working on a 31 5 window coupe and a 23 roadster.godspeed on your journey.
Another piece of the puzzle completed. Nice job Matt!
Nice work Matt. Some body shops never would have spent that time to minimize filler ! Great video.
Very true
Great instructional video for us backyard mechanics to learn from .
I think it looks very good. Thank you for talking about what you are doing.
Well done, another section repaired.
I really appreciate you sharing your solutions and your realistic approach concerning the owners budget and intended use of the car. Most of us just want a cool hot rod to bomb around in and not an AMBR car 👍
We try to direct our videos to the home hot rodders. Show that it’s possible to build this in your home garage
Love this videos just can't get enough so very informative a guy who really knows his craft and explains everything he's doing. Well done
Nice patch work Matt showing how to clean up this car replacing rotted panels..
Glad it was helpful!
Great job Matt, nothing like Henry steel, thanks for the video
Matt, that is good work, at less you are keeping the coast down for your friend and the car will be on the road again. I hard the car say thanks to Matt no need to hid my scars, I had a long life.
YOU DID A GREAT JOB MATT! ....THAT'S A HARD AREA TO FIX!
Looking good man! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Great details! Thanks for the video Matt. Many lessons I've learned on my Model A patch panels. They certainly take some patience to fit the curves of the original. In some cases, I've had to accept that a skim coat of bondo and some sanding will resolve imperfections. Otherwise, I'd spend all day lightly tapping everything with a hammer and potentially screwing up the panel all together. Currently working on a cowl bottom that doesn't have the right beads to line up. Like you mentioned, I ended up having to cut a much larger area than I wanted just so I could use the repop fabricated bead instead of trying to make the old and new conform to each other.
It's always a battle trying to use new patch panels! Good luck!!!
Excellent techniques!
Added to my playlist "cluey buggers" cheers Matt.
It looks good Matt, those contours are almost always a little off on aftermarket patch panels. Some good blending work and it will look factory.
Very helpful for me. Fixing a lot of rust in my project
Really enjoying your updates.
Thanks Matt! I learned a few things from this video. The most important one is to wait until the quarters are on the sub rails before doing the patches. The rear”bumper panel has to be in place. I flattened the wrinkles in the bottom and then cut, notched and welded the patch to the correct radius, but it looks like both ways work well. I did hammer and wheel the missing curve into the panel to match the body curve. I am still trying to figure out how to make the beads match decently. I have the advantage that the heavy gauge triangles are out so that I can get in with a hammer and dolly. I am sending the video to Dale at Ahoogah Mfg. he makes the patches. Thanks again! I put in a good word for you with the roadster gods. LOL
We need all the help we can get with the Roadster Gods!! The amount of time to cut out the triangles to hammer and dolly would almost negate the work to make those panels perfect
Nice piece of work! Always a learning experience!
Really a good explanation of what you were doing and why! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Looks real good. Impressive work.
Hey Matt, great job! I’m doing the corners on my 29 roadster next week. I bought it after watching your channel. I also have a AV8 27 roadster build going as well. Your to blame for all of this! BTW, bought some t shirts. Great stuff! Gary
Perfect. Thanks Matt
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Good Morning, Guys!
Matt.. Your work is always good enough to keep me entertained. Keep it up brother.
Great video Matt. When you said "acceptable" it reminded me of a friend who was the floor manager of a fairly serious metal fab shop. These guys built the nuke plant at San Onofre and would still bend metal for my goofy projects. They used the phrase "best effort". Kinda confusing because it really only meant acceptable. Miss those guys.
Nice work Matt!
Good work, nice to see the effort.
Matt, great video. I understand that working with a pre made panel is sketchy but your instruction showed how to make chicken salad out of chicken s_ _ t. Nice job. Thank you, Jack.
Now that is a good saying!! Thanks for watching!!
Nice work Matt
Thanks Matt, I think I'm learning something from watching your videos!! I have also noticed much more poor bodywork in the cars I have been looking at to buy, still not found a model a truck project though!
thx for showing us... great work
Nice job keep up the awesome work take care and stay safe see ya in the next one
Matt, very good vid. Thank you, regards to Kate an the kids ( 4 legs ). Later bro, Terry
You’re too modest. Precision work once again.
This is a repair I need to do. My experience with available patch panels is much the same, close but no cigar. I don't have the expertise you have with metal shaping and I'm too old to take the time to get good. The corners on my panels are still mostly there, but rusty with pin holes. I'm thinking about cleaning as much rust as possible from the inside and building it up with fiberglass. Should last longer than me.
Oh merchandise! I want it! As usual, great job on a car that really deserves it. Love your work!
thanks for watching!
Nice work
I just noticed that the thumbnail pic in the menu at the right of the screen is a mirror image of the opening scene of the video. You can see that the "Winfield wheel" and the Gulf sign which appear in the background are swapped. It makes it look like you are showing the right rear of the body. Yes, we ARE paying attention! :-)
I swapped the photo so the RUclips time stamp wouldnt cover the patch. Good catch!!!
Great work
Thanks Buddy! RWB
Great job on the patch👍👍🇨🇱
Thanks for another great video. I really appreciate the no bullshit real world way the work is done. Always interesting and no constant plugging shit like torches or deodorants!, just plain simple old school hot rods .
Thanks for watching!!
Looks good! The only guys that would complain about the quality are the guys who have never worked on a car.
Nice work.
Hi Matt, its a pity patch panels are not made more accurate in shape, I used some on a 70's Aust Falcon many years ago and they were pretty ordinary in fit back then....seems like the repo panel manufacturers haven't improved their accuracy much over the years.Good work on making it fit, Cheers.
Patch panels are hit and miss. Sometimes they fit ok other times they suck. Best to prepare for them to fit poorly
Good Morning Matt still watching your vid just wanted to say G'day. Winter is here in Southern Australia getting chilly now. I will go back to watching Jeremy Downunder finished watching now enjoyed watching your work Matt it is looking good. Will you show us the filler work?
Sorry for not saying hello Mike thanks for your great editing as well stay safe mate.
Looks really good I don't know why all these restoration companies can't make shit that fits like it suppose to
We call that a skin wedge :) another great video Matt
great job and as always share your experience👌👌👌
Good job 👍👍
...wish I could get patch panels for my '32 Packard roadster... same rot behind the rumble seat.
The biggest problem I have with watching your videos is that it makes me want to tear apart all of my old crappy work and redo it.
That’s the point!! Get to work!!!!
Great Video 📹. #STAYSAFE.
Thanks man I learn something.
Thanks for watching!
Matt, you might have heard of this guy, but if you haven't take a few minutes to watch his technics on patch panels and other technics he has, very interesting. He's an older guy and has been doing this stuff forever. His site is Fitzees Fabrication, and I warn you now he,s from Newfoundland, and his accent will break you up, I love his technics and as a fellow Canadian I Recommend him and think you could get some new tips you might not have seen before. Hope this will benefit you in some way.
We will take a look!! Thanks for the tip!!
Looks like all the pre make patch panels need a bit of fittings work? I here the reproduction fenders can be a nightmare to fit.
Anyway thanks for the video. I always enjoy.
Fenders can be a pain to get fitting perfect
It's worlds better than it was.
Very informative and excellent work. This knowledge is good for any restoration an individual is doing. I do have one question - where does one get a hat like you are wearing.
We are tweaking the design. We will let everyone know when we have new hats in stock ready to go!!
excellent!
like Neal Young said Rust never sleeps
I again enjoy these how to videos you've been posting, good job on the patch Matt. Question: back in the day would lead have been an option to repair the rust areas at the bottom flange and do you find much lead work while you're repairing these old gems? I look forward to your next episode and I hope you and yours and the rest of the Iron Trap crew are healthy and safe. Cheers from an old retired coot living in Tennessee.❤️👍😷🍻✌️
Lead would have been a option back in the day for sure. we have found lead in plenty of the builds over the years. Matt just melted some out of the 34 dash in a previous video
IronTrap Garage your right, that was the holes that were filled in on the white dash I believe. Thanks for the response. I love old vehicles, but never had the opportunity or had the knowledge to find and restore one. I have done a lot of work on my family vehicles starting with my 72 gremlin until 1992 ford family van when things got to complicated. I've helped buddies in Florida work on their old rag rods and loved getting my hands dirty and learning a thing or three. I guess that's why I like your episodes so much, they bring back great memories of a forgotten time.❤️👍🍻
this is great
Enjoyed
good stuff love it
A small "technical" issue; the thumbnail for this repair shows the right rear corner, but you actually repair the left rear corner. Good work either way!!!
That was done on purpose. The time stamp RUclips places would have blocked the portion of the body. The pictures is actually backwards
@@IronTrapGarage Thank you, I understand now!!! Anyway, good work !
Watching the replacement of the door skin I knew you weren't the first person who had to deal with imported sheetmetal. I took a look at the prices of imported and the price of Brookville parts. Brookville was a lot less money and I am certain that their quality is more of what we all want. When you and Kate did the Sunday tour of the shop I kept waiting to hear the story on the sheetmetal brake. It is obviously industrial grade. What is the size and capacity? How did you get it? SCREWDRIVERS! Never apologize for using a BIG screwdriver. Years ago I learned how using a small screwdriver would ruin the head of a stuck slotted screw. So now I have two rules. I always use the biggest screwdriver that fits the slot, and I do have some really big ones. Second. I never hammer of a screwdriver. Never.
On the next live we will make sure to explain the back story, it's kinda funny!!
@@IronTrapGarage I can't wait.
Rule #1 of the Hot Rodders 10 commandments. "An imperfect original steel hot rod is always way cooler than a super smooth fiberglass street rod." Looks fine to me. Thats a hell of a tricky corner to patch. Even the old school guys back in the day used lead as filler if needed. That car has more patches than a quilt!
Steel is always better then glass!!
Matt: A production tip if I may. Try to focus your camera so the area being featured is centered more in the frame vertically. Pop up ads appear frequently at the bottom of my screen and block the view of what you are working on if it is too low on the view screen (as in this video) Annoying!
I do know that you do not control the ads but changing focus would keep them below the featured area. Thanks!
We will try to keep that in mind. Matt typically films alone these days so it's hard to keep an eye on it
Matt We need to see how your angle of the fit up. Hard to see from the side. Please!
We will try to get better angles! Sorry !!!
hi looking good
You have made vast improvements to that model A. Is the owner going to restore the car to original or make it into a hot rod?
It's going to be a hot rod
You are way to critical of your work. I think you did a great job with it.
We are our own worse critics
You could have cut a section/slot out of the repair piece then moved the whole bent bit up. That way you would only have had to weld a straight line. Just a thought 😊.
Lots of ways to tackle a project. In the end whatever works for you is right. My methods aren't the best for everyone or necessary the best way. Just sharing how I tackle things.
Hey Matt, I watch you Tig weld panels without stopping, while watching others using a Mig and only spot them in. Is there less heat affected area with Tig there fore less warping or another reason?
The video is edited (for time) in a manner that looks like there is no stoppage. Matt stops about 3-4 times on each side to reposition his hands. Tig welding does generate way less heat and the welds are softer
Can you beat a dead horse did you cut the top off metal line was so it mechs perfect no lump even with other metal I have a 1931 ford model a and I had 1933 Chevy it looks good run a bead and grind then thin cost of body filler and sand untill you can't tell you no good job I've seen the floor film my is alunmminum it's all good I'm doing seat in rest now rumble seat waiting for parts just got window in front done turned out nice I sealed it in fiberglass
Ya after market panels almost always need to be adjusted most all of the time there hardly ever perfect
Excellent Work..AMBR contender..?
Not quite. Headed to be a hot rod
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Wouldn't it be easier to trace shape needed on scrap metal and cut it to shape rather than shrinking a strip.definatly quicker.either way works .a matter of what works best for you
Cut at line and weld tig and then finish off
I think Matt has CDO . It's like OCD only in alphabetical order like it should be .
True statement
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Grind the ripple off the bottom don't need them don't do anything else
quit saying good enough do your best at everthing you do
When you are working on someone else's budget compromises have to be made to stay within those limits.
there is a point of diminishing return. all the work you invested only gains you so much. there has to be a stopping point
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