Debate: Was This Country Built on a Lie? The Civil War Never Ended. Karen Hunter, Barbara F Walter

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  • Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024

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  • @Dedette1966
    @Dedette1966 Год назад +25

    Thank you Dr. Karen Hunter. You and Dr. Greg Carr of Howard University are national treasures. May the USA be smart enough to invest in people like you.

  • @dorcas60
    @dorcas60 Год назад +25

    Because white people are aware of how blacks are seen and treated. I live on the Southside of Chicago.

    • @rayy4pres194
      @rayy4pres194 Год назад +1

      Hello neighbor! Fellow south sider here! You ain’t never lied! These people know what time it is.

  • @fearfears570
    @fearfears570 Год назад +61

    I would have to disagree with the Dr. We don’t have a democracy, we have a system of white supremacy.✌🏾

    • @montrelsantiago5226
      @montrelsantiago5226 Год назад

      She contradicts herself when she admits “we really don’t have a system that’s one-person-one-vote,” which is what democracy means. She just doesn’t see it because she’s thoroughly indoctrinated in America mythology. And she’s seen how people are treated differently but still can’t make the connection with the vote.

    • @kisslena
      @kisslena Год назад +1

      It’s true! WS is always updated. When can we rid ourselves of the ethnicity by color games?

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 3 месяца назад

      White Christian supremacy. I live in the rural American west and I'm an atheist. And I'm termed a demon and am asked why I can't see the truth, so I think the problem is white conservative Christian nationalism.

  • @donesecarr3570
    @donesecarr3570 Год назад +14

    Somebody was NOT expecting that convo

  • @melvinwright8654
    @melvinwright8654 Год назад +40

    When warfare is considered, we, as black people, are in an ongoing war in economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, and sex, according to Neely Fuller Jr.

    • @shavonnestoddard6428
      @shavonnestoddard6428 Год назад +6

      Exactly.

    • @shavonnestoddard6428
      @shavonnestoddard6428 Год назад

      Whiteness is a deformity or albinism according to Dr. Frances Cress Welsing.

    • @godfatherx8334
      @godfatherx8334 Год назад +5

      On 🎯💯and if you don’t understand how each is applied you’ll continue to be confused.

  • @malcolmbutler801
    @malcolmbutler801 Год назад +21

    I loved this !! One of your best! You ask some of the hardest Questions. Got some of the better answers. Go Karen!!!

  • @sharondallum962
    @sharondallum962 Год назад +5

    Karen thank you, You are brilliant!

  • @kissoflove14
    @kissoflove14 Год назад +26

    Come thru Prof with the pertinent questions!!! This segment should shown far and wide in this country. You pushed through the gas lighting and got to the core questions, and answers.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 ❤️🖤💚

  • @karenl7786
    @karenl7786 Год назад +12

    If you were to ask me what it means to identify as black in America, I would say I am from descended predominantly from continental African ancestry, from peoples of various ethnic groups and connected cultural heritage who were forcibly removed from Africq and enslaved here in the Western hemisphere. Who have fought since that time to be free and living their full humanity and who in modern history continue to be marginalized. Prof, you continue to ask people what it means to be white and they are either defensive, apologetic or angry. That's all the answer we need.

    • @oliverwade666
      @oliverwade666 Год назад +1

      They will never answer that question only at their dinner tables or basements; but when they do answer that question then you will see the real them ( might be the last thing you see)…

  • @deborahblackshear3325
    @deborahblackshear3325 Год назад +8

    😊. Very good conversation Professor Hunter and Dr Walter.

  • @nomsashezi9775
    @nomsashezi9775 Год назад +7

    This should be considered MAIN STREAM!! Provocative uncomfortable pertinent questions- when journalists bring gravity and substance to draw out the information we All win as a society, none of this half baked kumbaya nonsense that allow people the delusion to live in an alternative world!!
    Thank you Prof H 👏👏

  • @bklynhuny
    @bklynhuny Год назад +14

    Great questions but her response to your whiteness question was not geniune. She answered it based off of what she thought you wanted to hear. She's never been asked that so she tried to maneuver past it and that right there exposed her privilege cuz she felt like she didn't have to answer it.

    • @fiasc0b0x
      @fiasc0b0x Год назад +2

      Exactly. She could have just said I don't know instead of trying to craft a perfect response. These conversations require transparency, honesty and vulnerability.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 8 месяцев назад

      Are you interested in her actual opinion or do you want to create it for her?

  • @chasefasten4120
    @chasefasten4120 Год назад +11

    Umm . The guest cannot speak about the ongoing civil war because she is not affected by it

    • @PatrickThreewit
      @PatrickThreewit 3 месяца назад

      I think the ongoing civil war is in the Bible Belt of the South. From online SHTF sites, conservative southerners are eager for war, completely unlike life in the mountain west.

  • @dwaynenicholson426
    @dwaynenicholson426 Год назад +5

    So happy you said that. We have never had a Democracy. It’s always been autocratic. 😊

  • @zeepickens9049
    @zeepickens9049 Год назад +4

    *I just placed this video presentation on the big screen so my friends could watch. Three of my friends watching are WHITE, and they were not impressed with Dr. Walter, one even said, "Why is she playing in Ms. Karen's face?" This was an interesting conversation and I'll just leave it right there.* 🤔

  • @dwaynenicholson426
    @dwaynenicholson426 Год назад +2

    Seemed kinda way, you outdid yourself again. You are truly special. Thank you.

  • @mlt1357
    @mlt1357 Год назад +6

    Always challenging me to think. Great conversation.😊

  • @isee8423
    @isee8423 Год назад +15

    Great discussion, thank you both very much. From a youth in the Caribbean we are fed copious amouts of American culture and polictics so I think ive been indoctrinated. I therefore find myself following American politics quite a bit. I also belive if the American experiment crumbles and fails, it will not bode well for global race relations and it will be really difficult for the world to get along with each other. No more Multilateralism. America represents a New Civilization of the coming together of many cultures, it represents something like the different races can get along. If the Tower of Babel is an biblical example of peoples coming together, and the subsequent dissolution, its not looking good for America. And finally it seems like Black Americans are saying we didn't build it and it doesn't work in our favor, so let it burn to the groud and then maybe we can all build anew. And the far W/right wing is saying"drain the swamp", which seems the same as saying destroy the experiment its been corrupted a la January 6th. It seems like believe or not, both sides and a large part of the country are consciously or subconsciously rooting for the American experiment to be dissolved. Ominous signs are all around.

  • @malcomscott6289
    @malcomscott6289 Год назад +10

    Truth and reconciliation. South Africa and Germany are examples of how it could be done by Americans

    • @johnwhite6981
      @johnwhite6981 Год назад +17

      America won't even apologize for slavery

    • @nomsashezi9775
      @nomsashezi9775 Год назад

      And don’t be fooled by the propaganda…in South Africa the white gritted their teeth through that so they wouldn’t lose their wealth, if you really want to know how they feel- when they think it’s safe, 20 years removed , they sound EXACTLY LIKE WHITE AMERICANS, I listen to American politics and shows coz I feel they will be our future if we don’t stop this train…heck I grew up in the 90’s and even then a conscious choice was made not to teach us about Apartheid as a system (not some random white person who wanted you to call them ba’as(master in our world) but that’s why I love listening to prof because it’s not about hating white people(which in itself is centring them) but about loving my people to envision a different world and making it a reality with small steps 🫶🏾

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater 8 месяцев назад

      Lol

  • @dorcas60
    @dorcas60 Год назад +6

    Really good conversation.

  • @amarbyrd2520
    @amarbyrd2520 Год назад +3

    Dr. Walter says she cares most about peace -- I wonder if anyone has ever asked her which one she cares about more, "peace" or "justice" ?

  • @frankwhite3659
    @frankwhite3659 Год назад

    This is one of the best guest I've seen on here,I was riveted by her brutal honesty.

  • @sheiladaniels364
    @sheiladaniels364 Год назад +6

    Very good conversation. I really liked the question about the civil war still going on. I agree with you Dr Hunter about us still fighting the same war. It’s a Cold War. We really need solutions that will stick 🤔.

  • @CoreyHarrisinterviews
    @CoreyHarrisinterviews Год назад +4

    Karen say, “hold my beer”! Dr Walters gon learn today!

  • @onuwaekwueme3301
    @onuwaekwueme3301 Год назад +3

    Good Evening Professor. I enjoyed both conversations. OMG, I wish people like Bill Maher or Ann Coulter would be brave enough to engage in this debate with you. Their recent interviews really had me shaking my head. Please keep giving us this great content.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  Год назад +3

      courage...if more people would have courage, we might have a nation that could heal.

  • @MrSolonolo
    @MrSolonolo Год назад +1

    Greetings, AGAIN, from Poland and thank you professor Karen Hunter and Ms Barbara F Walter. Professor Hunter our hearts and our minds agree on so many things regarding most issues that we face, especially as individuals of the African diaspora, in our struggle for life liberty and justice. I have been shouting this point through a bullhorn from the rooftops for at least a decade now. Almost all of my friends family and associates have regarded my thoughts and perspective as either naive or somehow an educated. Perhaps this information coming from the mouth of a person holding a PhD certification will ring differently in their ears. Looking forward and dreaming of meeting you in person and perhaps even being a guest on your show one day. As an aside, today as I was noticing a photo of Janet Jackson on the bookshelf behind you, I was moved to make mention of how beautiful you are! Peace and blessings.

  • @tyronnhamilton254
    @tyronnhamilton254 Год назад +1

    Excellent discussion Karen.

  • @sharonnorwood8268
    @sharonnorwood8268 Год назад +1

    Why wont she say she doesn't feel anything with her whiteness.... She answered the question with white guilt.

  • @sharonnorwood8268
    @sharonnorwood8268 Год назад +1

    Thank you for confirming different messages are being sent to different groups.... We are being fed information instead of critically learning from different types of information.

  • @urielriley
    @urielriley Год назад +2

    The gold fringe on the the flag suggest that we are still in war time. As An indigenous Melinated Man in America I know I'm always at war. I have purple 💜 heart love because I've survived at 44 being in war time my entire life. N.J finest

    • @urielriley
      @urielriley Год назад +1

      I love these questions. I'd love to answer any one of these questions.

  • @joycedavis436
    @joycedavis436 Год назад +2

    Hi Professor Hunter, Wow! Interesting! I enjoyed watching your interview with Dr. Walter. It’s amazing when you asked your callers on your show about, what does it mean to be white? It always a pause. I’m happy to see it live on RUclips! She was surprised and shocked that you asked her that question . Dr. Walter didn’t know how to respond and her face expression and body language speaks volumes. They always say their whiteness is privileged. Yes, whiteness is a social construct. We need to talk about race. God didn’t create race he created mankind/human beings.
    Thank you for an awesome interview with Dr. Walter!

  • @kizzee2931
    @kizzee2931 Год назад +1

    My God, Professor Hunter has to be one of the best interviewers in the game. She will hold your feet to the fire. I love her!❤

  • @marilynnwoodward7631
    @marilynnwoodward7631 Год назад +1

    Well I guess, U straighten that out❤

  • @TheClarkteague
    @TheClarkteague Год назад

    Thoroughly enjoyed this!

  • @christopherharper9818
    @christopherharper9818 Год назад +3

    Not ongoing civil war, but active repression??? That has made it hard for AA especially??? It's debatable if it can be defined as a civil war simply b/c AA have yet to consistently conduct warfare against our enemy (those that attack us). But it definitely is ongoing warfare and many fronts and AA have yet to strategize collectively. It's time... ❤️💛💚

  • @micheleholley1070
    @micheleholley1070 Год назад +4

    Professor Karen, I sure wish the conversation between both yourself and Doctor Walter was aired of your Catholic School experiences. It is so amazing how the story of the Wizard Jesus has warped the minds of many. We speak about Democracy but we really mean Capitalism. Everything we do in the world rest on the shoulders of Capitalism and holding up the rich and privilege.

  • @Platypus-Dreams
    @Platypus-Dreams Год назад +2

    I think it looks like reparations and a system of justice. Give us our 40 acres and a mule. Maybe replace the mule with a Ford truck

  • @SuperKenndog
    @SuperKenndog Год назад

    Yes. Next question

  • @GCOMradio_Lyfeblood
    @GCOMradio_Lyfeblood Год назад +1

    Dr. Hunter got Barbara F Walter in her feelings really reevaluating her whole worldview. Lol I can see Ms. Walter brain working like… 😮 Thinking: Yo… I didn’t expect to come into this!
    Go ‘head, Dr. Hunter! 😂

  • @rafaelpena4269
    @rafaelpena4269 Год назад +1

    29:46-there's 17 vacancies' for EVERY homeless person!

  • @wm8673
    @wm8673 Год назад +1

    Humanah.... Humanah... Bless her heart... She tried.

  • @rozburt6473
    @rozburt6473 Год назад +1

    No matter how much her family had to struggle as immigrants, it does not amount to what black people that struggled during the same time period. They were still given opportunities that black people were not given and therefore were able to build their lives to where they are today.

  • @mecca6264
    @mecca6264 Год назад +3

    Great interview as always Professor Hunter!! I agree we don't have a democracy in America, we have a culture of Jim Crow.

  • @theresawebb1968
    @theresawebb1968 Год назад

    This will never be perfect it wasnt designed to be that.

  • @vintagechild4418
    @vintagechild4418 Год назад

    Good book!

  • @tamaracharese
    @tamaracharese Год назад +2

    I’m happy that you ask that question of your guests who embrace whiteness

  • @tangelaford4680
    @tangelaford4680 Год назад +1

    Okay… glad I saw this. Now I can finish my conversation with @Nitra in Knubia😁

  • @ReginaldDj1
    @ReginaldDj1 Год назад +4

    Professor Karen Hunter I'm so loving this conversation I had to watch it twice there has to be a pt2 and I caught her trying to think her was outta that question while she was twirling her necklace frantically. She knows dam well she enjoys White Privilege and trying to fix it from the inside sounds like a cop out to me there's only one person that I know that has actually had success in working from the inside of whiteness to the outside of whiteness and I can't think of that doctor's name The little old white lady smart as hell You know her name Karen she's the only successful one that I've seen.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  Год назад +3

      The whole convo is on @SiriusXM (get the app).

    • @joycedavis436
      @joycedavis436 Год назад +1

      I agree with you! I watched it twice too!

    • @ReginaldDj1
      @ReginaldDj1 Год назад +1

      @@KarenHunterShow got it 👍

  • @howardturman4689
    @howardturman4689 Год назад +4

    We have to understand what is civil about war? Winston Churchill said the history of man ♂️ is about his ears. So who wins the war write ✍️ the history. Sankofor 🌍

    • @antonpie9697
      @antonpie9697 Год назад +1

      Until it becomes ' the story' and not 'his story' we will truly know what happened.

  • @georgewmitchell
    @georgewmitchell Год назад

    I gotta go watch her TED talk now.

  • @vanjones1749
    @vanjones1749 Год назад +1

    We have a plutocracy at the top of the Government and a type of democracy at the working class level, depends on what’s being asked by the working class

  • @dwebb7665
    @dwebb7665 Год назад

    What is democracy? Define it first, and then we can talk. Dr. We should be clear about her definition.

  • @YoungBillyKatastrophe
    @YoungBillyKatastrophe Год назад +1

    We have a Democracy but the Civil Rights Era gave black people the right to vote 😂

  • @anthonywright3443
    @anthonywright3443 Год назад

    Democracy, really!!! A Republic is what the Constitution lays out. If you don't know your Property Rights that are God given, then how can you expect people to understand the Constitution that they chose to make their GOD!!!!;

  • @jameswarren180
    @jameswarren180 Год назад

    When are you bringing on Robert P Jones White to Long?

  • @janwig9347
    @janwig9347 Год назад

    This was a great interview. Do you think it made a difference in the way this lady thinks and acts?

  • @startpage717
    @startpage717 Год назад

    Debunk: you do NOT have to get a PhD to Write and do real Research...ijs. University of Chicago? that is NOT an "urban" university..,.or Chicago State University? as they both on the Southside...and both are in Chicago's urban areas...

  • @howardturman4689
    @howardturman4689 Год назад +1

    Wars not ears my bad.

  • @noeltaylor3594
    @noeltaylor3594 Год назад +1

    The white American question is a tough one. Almost a " gotcha"!

  • @JASHTONR
    @JASHTONR Год назад +4

    Karen, regarding the usage of the term "Black & Brown" (which was fosited on us by white liberals and academics) please stop using it. It disguises BLACK ADOS disenfranchisement and failure. Many Latinos indentify as "white" and just the like the Italians and Irish, are being welcomed into "whiteness". Indians (both kinds, asians, and Latins/HIspanics (still need someone to explain to me how that is a real thing) are only "brown" as it is convinient. When it becomes no longer useful, they will shed it. Demographically, this country is presently of a white majority and an elite minority (Jewish people). We are moving to a Latin majority and elite minority comprised of asians. Please think, speak and converse with your guests with that fact in mind. Those trends still leave ADOS people at the bottom (Carribean and African immigrants and elites will be sure to remind people that they are "different") and in truth headed for extinction. First, a political extinction, second an economic extinction and third a cultural/numerical/geographic death as our regions and neighborhoods become smaller and more distant from each other.

    • @tandt7694
      @tandt7694 Год назад

      Ms. Hunter is not ADOS.
      She and Dr Carr seem opposed to the idea of Black people who are descendents of USA slaves having their own cultural/ethnic category (Freedmen/ADOS/FBA).
      I may be wrong, but that's my strong impression.

    • @JASHTONR
      @JASHTONR Год назад

      @@tandt7694 Karen is a good woman and is rational. I think she will understand the importance of ADOS and become an excellent ally.

  • @kashmoney7421
    @kashmoney7421 Год назад

    I thought Karen was talking about getting rid of America. I think she thought the same which was why she was like let me ask you this question 😂. I ultimately didn't understand after that explanation what you were referring to tearing down but bur it wasn't the country itself. Which by the way wouldn't have exactly made you crazy if that was what you said given the position of black people in America and now having a brand new immigrant population flooding in that will push us further to the bottom.

  • @wesleymemenon683
    @wesleymemenon683 Год назад

    What does it mean to be white??? Nothing!!! Same as any other colors. What does it mean to be human. Is the question.

    • @QueenBees456
      @QueenBees456 Год назад +8

      You can’t completely ignore the politics and class associated with so called race. The narrative of race associated rights need to change….we all deserve a right to live a dignified life.

    • @KarenHunterShow
      @KarenHunterShow  Год назад +2

      this!

  • @vernonmurphy7945
    @vernonmurphy7945 7 месяцев назад

    I will acknowledge that my thought process is not very progressive....but here it is... Amerikkka has never and will never fully accept our Blackness...so to Black Americans.....arm yourself and protect your family. I have zero faith in thee Amerikkkan institutions to be fair.....they believe if we are fair, we are losing. We have made great achievements in spite of the constant opposition. This is not an indictment on all white people....that's stupid. But the vast majority will NEVER want fairness....

  • @anthonywright3443
    @anthonywright3443 Год назад +1

    Civil War is about the dominance of a group. Greed of the highest. We say GOD is on our side, but it's a false statement. God made this world and didn't leave any one in charge of how to run it. 1 Samuel 8 tells us what happens when we choose a king or queen etc. The Law was given and we diss obeyed it!!!!!

  • @phabulouss1
    @phabulouss1 Год назад +1

    The civilian war never ended as well as our spiritual warfare is (will) continue until Jesus Christ comes again to put down sin and transgressions against His Commandments. There’s no Black heaven or White heaven.
    **Revelation 15:4**
    “Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for ALL NATIONS shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.”
    **Ephesians 6:12**
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Who is the prince of this world? 🌎 Satan