Bipolar Disorder | Media Misdiagnosis
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- [CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of mental/psychiatric disorders; drug abuse/dependency; self-harm/suicide]
Welcome to the second episode in my “Media Misdiagnosis” series, with each episode discussing a single psychiatric disorder, examining how the disorder is portrayed in mainstream media, and analyzing how accurately said disorder is depicted, dispelling common misconceptions.
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[00:00] - Intro/Shoutouts
[00:55] - What Is Bipolar Disorder?
[04:14] - What Is Bipolar I?
[08:01] - What Is Bipolar II?
[10:12] - What Is Cyclothymia?
[13:45] - The Difficulties Of Diagnosis
[18:04] - Dangerous Misconceptions
[19:38] - Conclusion
[20:19] - Outro/Patrons
ARTICLES:
Childhood Trauma & Bipolar Disorder: www.dovepress.com/the-impact-...
Homelessness & Bipolar Disorder: bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral...
Cyclothymia Progressing To Bipolar I or II: www.verywellmind.com/cyclothy...
Differentiating Bipolar Disorder & Borderline Personality Disorder: www.pamllc.us/post/bipolar-vs...
Antidepressants & Bipolar Disorder: www.researchgate.net/publicat...
Homeland Using Bipolar Disorder For Dramatic Effect: www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...
Violent Behavior & Bipolar Disorder: www.everydayhealth.com/bipola....
Suicide & Bipolar Disorder: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
MUSIC:
All music by the legendary Kevin Macleod: "Cool Vibes", "Covert Affair", "Deadly Roulette" 
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It’s often romanticized, or at least seen as trendier than normal depression, in the media but in reality it’s mostly just a chronically huge pain in the ass.
Its like living with a roommate that is constantly doing things that push your buttons, they arent doing anything wrong or bad, just the way they do it pisses ya off to no end, and then ya look in the mirror and remember that oh yaeh, I live alone
I am an actual psychiatric resident, and I am shocked at how accurate your video is. You have a better understanding of bipolar disorder than way too many psychiatrists. An unfortunate number hand out bipolar diagnoses like candy without doing thoughtful diagnosis where trauma and personality disorders are a much better explanation for their presentation. Kudos.
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I can relate, a psychiatrist was convinced I was bipolar after one single meeting, while I was in fact suffering from a ptsd…
@@reginaphalange9417 Glad you found the real problem.
I originally thought I just depression and anxiety but was later diagnosed with bipolar ii after my doctor put me on an anti depressant that triggered a hypomanic episode. It definitely explained a lot lol. There is a lot of stigma though which is unfortunate. Great video!
That's how I was diagnosed bipolar ii as well: hypomania triggered by anti-depressants.
Currently in the process of trying to figure out a diagnosis. It's so confusing. Been depressed for ages but because I have family members with bipolar and because of my pressured sleep they suspect it's bipolar. Even though I don't really have manic episodes.
Did you get it all figured out?
Same! I miss my Welbutrin bc it was amazing for deprrssive episodes but it triggered the worst manic episode Ive had and my anxiety is still wprse for it
@Clarice Elso a bit more depressed?
Be careful when mistaking Bipolar 1 with borderline depression (and vice versa). Sometimes the line between the two is so subtle that it'll take careful observation from a professional psychologist before reaching a more conclusive diagnosis (maybe it's both, maybe it's neither, who knows?).
I'd say Bipolar type 2 is harder considering hypomania is much closer to neurotypical behavior than mania
...wait wait wait, did you mean depression + borderline personality disorder at the same time? Because that's an extremely important distinction to make
Also do note that someone with pure mania counts as type 1, regardless of whether or not a depressive episode has ever happened - and a single mania episode throughout the entire lifetime rules out major depressive disorder
It’s definitely not subtle in most situations. After a while working in the field you start being able to identify borderlines fairly quickly. It’s a very distinctive experience being with a borderline patient. The only difficulty would come when they have both borderline and bipolar as they aren’t mutually exclusive diagnoses although this is fairly rare (I haven’t personally identified a case of such).
Most of the comments here seem to come down to people having different concepts of what "borderline" is and of what "bipolar (1)" is (i.e. therapists allegedly being able to differentiate quite easily based on x behaviour they classify as borderline, or as bipolar). I know that plenty of people with the same set of symptoms might, for example, receive a bipolar 1 diagnosis in America but a borderline diagnosis in Europe--these are cultural differences, and also based on how society views the severity/treatability/trustworthiness of their patient.
In truth, the DSM is nothing more than a manual that describes behaviour and helps categorize people accordingly (but still in the vaguest sense possible). Mental illnesses are not at all like different cancers for example, where types can be determined based on the actual cells.
Not only are diagnoses partially up to interpretation (and there ARE many commonalities between bipolar 1/bpd), but diagnoses have also been shown to increase incidence of behaviour. I've seen it plenty in people diagnosed with bpd (including myself in the past): "I have borderline, and therefore I am impulsive, and therefore I will act impulsive and do drugs, etc." living up to the stereotype in a way they did not *before* diagnosis. On top of that, plenty of therapists DO have the misconception that borderline patients will always be manipulative and [insert host of other negative stigmas] and treat their patients accordingly, rather than taking them seriously, further exaggerating their issues that way.
Aka I agree with you, @simgunther, but not with some of the responses this comment has gotten. I've been in a position before where people had a lot of experience with xyz DSM label, and shoved me into a box without actually really looking at my issues before treating me according to the treatment most credible at that time (i.e. "current research indicates that the biggest percentage of patients benefit from this in the short term"). I've only begun to address my issues properly now that I've a therapist who hasn't done that.
And to all mental health professionals out there
Remember that the diagnosis is subject to change based on what symptoms are detected, so don't be too scared to change the diagnosis, and don't be too scared of misdiagnosing - try to avoid to, but at the same time know that it could happen and that all that matters is the treatment going forward
I am very thankful that you actually understand that bipolar is made up of extended episodes as opposed to rapid mood swings.
Degrassi was by no means perfect with mental health portrayals, but I appreciate that they really portrayed the benefit and importance of medication and therapy. I think those kinds of portrayals help destigmatize mental health care
my psychologist suggested that I check with my psychiatrist if I'm not bipolar today, this couldn't drop at a better time. Great job, thanks, I avoided thinking of my symptoms because I didn't know the manic/ depressive phases can be more mild than those we get exposed to in the media i.e. kanye west. This series is extremely helpful in dispelling misinformation and letting people who need help know what to look for
Good luck!
@@MacabreStorytelling thanks man!
I had a similar experience, I've been lucky to find good people and it's been really helpful.
A really well done and researched video.
As someone on the Autistic spectrum,
I am curious if you’re planning on doing an episode on how unbelievably wrong
(And often condescending at best) that fictional media often portrays it.
The main things I can always think of is even in the most empathetic intent, they are purely narrative props for the neurotypical lead with no agency or growth of their own.
And the few that are given any sort of arc are often given the glorified ‘Aspergers’, further cementing the idea only worthwhile nurodivergent is a genius or savant.
Never mind that the outdated term Aspergers (which is completely removed from the current DSM, alongside the titles High/Low functioning, and PDD/NOS) is named after Dr. Hans Asperger, a eugenicist and Nazi collaborator. Whose own name for those he labeled gifted was “Autistic psychopath”, and the vast majority in his care that weren’t “gifted” by his arbitrary standards were sent off to suffer and die in Nazi run Psychiatric hospitals.
Or the one I hate most, and a reason that my ASD diagnosis was deliberately kept from me for years IRL, that Autistic people are labeled emotionally detached and incapable of empathy.
I'm curious about your thoughts on the movie _The Accountant_
That movie's been living rent-free in my head ever since I first saw it, and I've seen it a couple times since then. I could probably write a video essay about my feels and takes on it. A series of them, about each of the characters, and what I'd like to see in the sequel. That is, if that was a thing that I did.
But I don't know how it (or I, for that matter) stack up as a representation of autism, or whether the movie treats it with the due respect and nuance. It seems to, to me, but I've been wrong about that sort of thing before.
So that's why I'm asking you. Because you seem like someone who might know.
i was diagnosed with bipolar I a little over a year ago and when i was, i realized i was so misinformed about what it is. this video is very very informative! as an actor with bipolar disorder, i appreciate you for making this video very much! :)
any personality disorder would be great to cover, especially something like NPD. keep up the good work man 👍
Yeah, you touched on a very important point I have talked about for years, just "seeking help" isn't a catch all answer for mental health, a lot of the times getting a working treatment is an endless struggle
I really appreciated how although Carrie is bipolar, Homeland isn't explicitly about her being bipolar, but about her trying to track down Brody. Also, there's more to her character than her mental illness, and Danes portrays her in an incredibly nuanced way, in my opinion.
Ummmm, no.
As someone with bipolar 1 I really appreciate this video, you described it very well
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Bipolar is very hard to solve, i suffer everyday with it, but for everyone thats also have it, keep up, we can do it
I was misdiagnosed with Bipolar, first at a very young age, again in when aged 19, but rediagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder at 24
I would love to see one on Borderline Personality disorder.
Is it portrayed in media at all? I was just wondering that
My psych prof told our class a story about a guy who had bipolar and was doing quite financially but then went into a manic episodic and headed straight for Vegas. Did not tell his wife and proceeded to spend most of his life savings. Upon realizing he was running out of money, he pivoted and decided to get into horse racing but not just betting on horses, but owning a race horse. So he buys it back in his hometown and starts riding it around when his wife finds him and manages to get him settled down. Guy didn't remember a single thing that had happened.
I love that you're doing these videos. I have schizoaffective disorder bipolar type. The best despictions of schizophrenia to me have been They Look Like People and Strange Voices. I haven't seen Take Shelter or Savage Grace. But the other depictions misrepresent hallucinations by depicting them as fully actualized people. I understand why they do it that way though because it's hard to conceptualize. It's more complicated than that. The depiction of teens dealing with schizophrenia is a strange trend too. It just doesn't present like how Words on Bathroom Walls shows it. If you develope it as a child it's so much more severe and debilitating. But as a teenager you're usually dealing with the prodromal stage and it's more subtle how it creeps in. I also hate the genius trope. It doesn't make you more creative if you're creative. It's hard to organize anything if you can't function. The abstract thinking is useless if you have no tact and no skills that were already there. It makes you as creative as cancer would. lol.
I have to say, the media often represents bipolar lives as being split in half between mania/hypomania and depression. But I think of my life as divided in 3rds.
There's the time I spend hypomanic with racing thoughts and grand ideas I have to pursue,
The time I spend depressed, exhausted and locked away from the things I care about,
And the time I spend in Euthymia, glorious peace, my true identity returned, but slightly marred with the worry of when all the bullshit might start up again.
@@TheSuperappelflap This was a shining example of what not to say to someone. Like, to a T.
As someone that had suicidal thoughts most days for two decades of my life, feeling empty and numb was usually considered a win back then.
I once heard bipolar disorder described as "showbiz syndrome", which might explain why it's relatively accurately portrayed in popular media.
Holly shit I'm bipolar and I've always had a hard time describing what's gone on in my head and my doctors have never explained it this way before thank you
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Ah, I remember when I was misdiagnosed with Bipolar
Turns out, it was just depression!
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I discuss that exact scenario in the vid!
@@MacabreStorytelling
Oh neat!
In my case, it was already established fact that I had depression, which makes my misdiagnosis even more hilarious in hindsight - like, the only mood swings I’ve ever had are from not depressed to…depressed, ig lol
As your therapist I probably would have gone with bipolar too, judging from the random happy laugh emoji alone. Kek /s
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You don’t need to be such an a-hole, my dude
@@warlordofbritannia to me, the 😀 and odd attitude to misdiagnosis is bewildering. If my personal impression is judgemental, think about that cute word you amateurishly tried to censor.
I still think Midsommar making the murderous sister bipolar is one of the most disgusting and repugnant things I've seen in any recent movie. Bipolar people do not murder their families and it's just stigmatizing the disorder
Would it be better to present a disorder with actual correlation to increased tendency to violence? Curious.
Maybe it always needs to be presented in context of the full picture.
Maybe it's part of normalizing it to include it like a hair color and no need to give context, since you don't relate it to such events (like the hair color)
@@christian2i Yeah that would be the right way
Yikes. Better keep this in mind when I get the time to watch the movie. I always find misinterpretation of bipolar in media to be really terrible.
Wow I did not remeber that she was :o
My bipolar ex actively tried to manipulate me into killing myself.
I, and many members of family have struggled with bipolar for years, as well as the consequences of the awful stereotypes surrounding it. Thank you a lot for making this video; it was pretty cathartic to watch.
I appreciate you taking the time to dispel some misconceptions about Bipolar disorder. As someone diagnosed with Bipolar I after years of thinking I had Bipolar II, I've learned that Bipolar I is not necessarily characterized by a predominance of full-blown manic episodes with few or no depressive ones. The distinguishing feature of Bipolar I is the presence of at least one manic episode with or without the presence of depressive episodes, while Bipolar II is characterized by the presence of hypomanic and depressive episodes, but no manic episodes. While it is true that many people with Bipolar I never have a depressive episode or very few of them, the more prevalent pattern, according to the observation of several of my psychiatrists, is a predominance of depressive episodes and at least one true manic episode.
Everytime someone confuses bipolar disorder with borderline / personality disorders, somewhere a sad kitten drowns itself.
I've never heard of cyclothymia before, but it fits with my symptoms much better than bipolar. I don't have actual manic symptoms, but I experience hypomanic periods regularly. Likewise, I almost never suffer actual depression, but I do have depressive episodes. I did recognize my irregular sleep issues as being related, but it makes sense.
Good Gawd, I have such an appreciation for Silver Linings Playbook-I remember my history teacher recommended it to me as junior in high school, that’s the movie that basically made me a major simp for Jennifer Lawerence (rather than the Hunger Games) lol
Yes! I love that you used Craig Manning as an example!
Looking forward to the schizophrenia episode, I’ve only ever seen it portrayed in horror media like Channel Zero.
I was misdiagnosed with Bipolar when I was just very, very depressed. The bipolar medication (which I didn't need) fucked me up big time and it took a while to get better from the effects of the medication.
Hope you are doing well!
I was waiting for the next episode for so long. Great work as always
Hell yes can’t wait! Thanks for doing these mental health vids.
Remember my obsession with ADHD? I posted many comments under your first Media Misdiagnosis video. Well that was then and this is now. I'm now not only on antidepressants but also antipsychotics even though right now I'm only diagnosed with depression. Anyway looking forward to more videos about psychotic disorders xD.
Thank you for making this series of essays.
As an avid entertainment enjoyer and media analysis addict, who has been recently diagnosed with both ADHD and BP II, these videos have been validating. I appreciate your effort to destigmatize and your compassionate point of view in your discussion of these awful "conditions" (particularly the dreadful handling of diagnosis and treatment).
It's sad that you seem to have discontinued this series, but your other content is also good so keep it up =)
Thanks for this. I know two people very close to me who suffer from bipolar and I appreciate the effort to help people understand it. The frustration with finding a long term treatment plan is a HUGE part of it. One of the people I know has terrible constipation from one of her eight medications so she would go off it causing issues. This was a large problem until she found the right kind of gentle laxative to balance that side effect. With great joy I can say she hasn't had an episode in about a decade now. It's a process but it's one that can be figured out.
Thank you for this. Much appreciated. I’ve felt my ability to function with my diagnosis of Bipolar 1 and chronic depression has vastly improved since I became sober 2 years ago. Finally let the medications work - completely different life.
Macabre Storytelling: We all have our ups and downs
Me: Life is the same day over and over until the day we die.
I am surprised you didn't mention Kat Baker from the Netflix show Spinning Out. In the show Kat is a pro figure skater who struggles with bipolar and her condition affects her personal and professional life. She has to take medication to suppress her wild moods, and all throughout the show she tries to keep her condition from her friends and skating partner. But as an interesting aside, unlike other examples she gives into her bipolar state in order to give her the confidence needed to skate exceptionally well with her partner as they are able to execute some really difficult stunts. However as the show progresses, her bipolar disorder despite being a boon in helping her with competitive pair skating does catch up to her with her personal life as her erratic behavior gets her and the people she knows into deep trouble. Its a pity the show ended after just one season and isn't that well known but I think it shows someone struggling with bipolar in an interesting way.
I myself went through the bad diagnosis cycle for over twenty years. If you have frontal lobe brain damage like I do then they will constantly misdiagnose you and pump you full of pills sadly.
Really excited for the DID&OSDD episode. More awareness is great.
I think you should do a episode on Borderline Personality Disorder too, because many often times confuse it with anger issues or a mild state of psychosis. I think it also would help people know the difference between Bipolar and Borderline.
It’s on the docket!
Thank you for making this. I appreciate you taking a serious take and well in depth look at it. I’ve got BPD1 and finding things outside clinical videos makes it feel more acceptable and less taboo and clinical
I was diagnosed with bipolar I about a year ago after my first manic episode and it led to the worst time of my life so far. I’m in a much better place now, and am looking forward to the future, but it triggered a really bad depressive episode directly after that was hell to recover from and had a couple lasting consequences. It’s been hard for me to think about that manic episode since then due to the shame and embarrassment I felt about it, but this video really helped me look back on it with much more compassion for myself. I think it’s the first time since then that I’ve heard BD spoken about aside from by mental health professionals and cursory conversations with loved ones, and it was really helpful to hear someone talk about it in such a compassionate and empathetic way. Thank you for making this video, it was much appreciated. I’ll be checking out some of the media you mentioned and see if I can find a portrayal that resonates with me.
spinning out was a show that i think did a good job with portraying bipolar & how it gets in the way of life
I have bipolar dissorder and actually my psychiatrist gave me antidepressants and a mood stabilizer.. spot on. Never told me if it was bipolar 1, 2 or undefined.. maybe because it was the latter.
I've lost a lot because of the condition... and still strugle to be a stable and common person, being alone and away from people I love makes it a lot easier.
Thanks for covering the subject!
Just saw this and subbed as soon as the vid ended. Phenomenal content, hope you blow up in the algorithm
Thanks homes! Always appreciate a share if you can!
Wow this is such an interesting and cool video series. You’re one of the best film/tv channels, loving these videos, great job.
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I have been waiting for you to do this one- THANKS
What’s messed up is doctors often diagnose active drug addicts as BiPolar for life and put them on meds which are difficult to discontinue.
Well…yeah, mood swings are obvious when a person shifts between being high and experiencing withdrawals.
There was this one time where I had a major depressive episode and went to the hospital for it. While I was sitting at the back of the ambulance and explaining my situation, the guy immediately told me that I was bipolar. This was after I told him I have borderline personality disorder (which I have been diagnosed with) and he said it's too stigmatized or something. I don't have episodes of mania or hypomania lol
3:14 “and here we come to one of the biggest misconceptions”
Oh I couldn’t disagree more…
It’s THE misconception; it’s the reason I clicked upon seeing the title faster than the speed of light (thank you SO much for making this, and I’m only 3min in); it’s the thing I mentally prepare to explain anytime I hear the word in convo; it’s the first line I always hit when someone asks me about it/having Type 2
I sound rabid above, but it’s not that this misconception offends/hurts me, but how widespread it is. Like to hear someone *not* profess it is a major anomaly IME lol
As some with bipolar 2, I was only my monthly bipolar watching spree of latest, this made great watch, keep this up, instant sub.
Well you just gained a new sub. Love these videos!
Wow am I lucky this was on my recommended page. I missed this in my feed when this was posted. Anyway, another great video!
Thank you for doing these videos. I know not every film that handles the topic of mental lillnes is going to be great and some might be harmful, but it's atleast good to get an idea if they are worth a watch to help show that people with these conditions are not alone and they are just like everyone else in many ways.
I was diagnosed with postpartum bipolar disorder after I had my first severe manic episode when my baby was 5 months old. It was so severe, I even had psychosis, something I have always feared. I have since come to grips with it for the most part, now that my baby is 3. I've found effective medication, and have come to just accept my diagnosis - what I've experienced doesn't define me, but it is still a part of who I am. I've found a lot of help just talking through what's gone on. It's so important to try to understand the different experiences people have - for instance, though I have had a major manic episode, I don't think I've ever experienced a major depressive episode, so as explained in the video, I have type 1 bipolar (also postpartum.) I guess my bipolar fits in with traditional media depictions, other that it being postpartum. Anyway, thanks for the great video!
10:25 My wife just got diagnosed with something like Cyclothymia although here in France they talk about "Bipolar Spectrum". Is that the same? She's never had a manic episode (or at least not a bad one), she's more on the depressive side. And just like you mentioned in 15:25, she's been misdiagnosed with depression and anxiety since early 2000s and that led to medication that was not meant for her real situation. She's on the right meds now and the changes are amazing. a 180.
I miss this series
Was told I had undiagnosed bipolar disorder in my 20s and I haven’t gone back for a second opinion.
May want to give it a shot at some point 👍
@@MacabreStorytelling I deadass felt like it was just an excuse to get me on meds so I’d stfu.
Anne Hathaway’s performance in that episode was amazing. It was really an eye opener for me.
Loving this series so far, and looking forward to your next episode! Since Mark Ruffalo was running around this episode, I was wondering if for your next episode you'd be looking at his series "I Know This Much Is True", because I'm interested in seeing your thoughts on it's representation of schizophrenia. (Personally I have mixed feelings on the series, but I haven't seen anyone else talk about it.) I love finding new movies and shows through your videos where I can see accurate representations of some of these disorders, because it gives me something of an idea of what some of my friends are going through, so thank you for giving me access to that, as well as taking the time to also explain it all to your viewers.
Please do Tourette’s Syndrome. I’ve never seen it portrayed accurately and it’s one of the few medical conditions people are still allowed to freely make fun of.
You got it!
@@MacabreStorytelling awesome, thank you! I’ll look forward to it!
@@MacabreStorytelling I think there's only one piece of media to correctly portray tourette's
South Park. The society for tourette's loved it
Because tourettes is funny when ots not the non screamimg randoms words part but not in a demeaning way just about how casual it is
@@fightcinema3917 Well it shouldn't be constantly misrepresented for comedy. I have tics and people have tried to purposefully trigger them or interact/ make comments on them even after I'd say it makes it worse.
I don't really know what I'm trying to say with this comment, but I guess I want to thank you? I've done reserch in the past to figure out if I have depression or Bipolar and I was never too sure, but this video has helped me realise its very likely that I suffer from Bipolar II. Obviously I'm not a professional, I'm not gonna go around saying I've been diagnosed, but to just have a clearer picture with what could be wrong with me definitely helps a lot. I know that wasn't exactly the point of the video but thank you nonetheless.
@@TheSuperappelflap I've already been diagnosed with depression, so I know for a fact that it isn't just being sad. I've just heard many times that bipolar is often misdiagnosed as depression so I wanted to be more accurate and my sympotms definitely align better with bipolar. I've also attempted suicide a couple times in the past. Sure, people with feelings do that too, but I'm fairly confident I know what I'm going through a bit better than someone who read one comment and figured they know me better than myself. I do agree with the meds thing though.
Was really expecting to see Ian Gallagher in this video, but overall, this a really good and informative video! ❤️
Yeah, I have heard Shameless does a good job with it, I was just not as familiar with the show.
this is fascinating
I'm so glad you're doing these videos - mental illness gets shafted sooo bad in so much of media. If you haven't done so already, I'd be really interested in seeing one about DID and its close cousin OSDD-1. Hoooboy, are those of us with either of those conditions done dirty by Hollywood ('specially lookin' at YOU, M. Night Shamalayan, with your 'Split.') Any way the media could possibly stop portraying us as having at least one 'eeeevil serial killer alter,' just to fit the same tired (and wholly inaccurate) ol' plot 'twist' they've all been using since *the beginning of goddamn time* because they're under some delusion they're being sooooo 'original' and 'innovative?' 🤨
I'm actually surprised to see that bipolar's portrayed relatively well in mass media (albeit, as you said, in a very limited way and not w/o valid criticisms).
This video's really helpful for me since one of my novel ideas has both the protagonist and antagonist have bipolar disorder and manage them in different ways. I'm still deciding whether they have the same or different types of bipolar, but I still want to portray them well, even in the urban-fantasy setting the story's in. This gives me more of an understanding of the disorder and the types, though I'll continue to research deeper.
I'm going through a similar process, tho with other illnesses. Hope your book goes well
Melancholia made me cry with its authenticity
I was diagnosed with bipolar 1 a year ago at 19-20 and I just want to say that bipolar denial is a real thing that stopped me from taking care of myself for a really long time.
It was so confusing to be doing okay, at least for me, I would forget all the problems I caused and things I said and would end up stopping with the meds.
Even though I noticed a clear difference from being medicated and from not taking anything the paranoia related to the meds and the denial made for a very unstable treatment period.
Thank you so much for sharing this! ❤ Do hope your ongoing management of yr condition has positive results!
I've had multiple friends & relatives with Bipolar (types 1 and 2) over the years & observing them closely, it does seem like lacking awareness of one's own mental state is an integral part of how the condition affects people? (Plus often a related blindness around how one's actions & choices impact on other people...) So given that, I guess the widespread denial problem isn't too surprising! 😏
As you note, dropping the meds when you get to the point where they're working is a really common issue too, alas 🤦🏻♀️ Most sufferers don't actually seem to remember what happened while they were hypermanic or super-depressed, and so have a limited perception of how much difference the meds are actually making...? Plus side effects on weight, libido etc can be fairly tough too, which makes things even harder.
The people I've seen make real longterm positive progress with bipolar are those who accept the facts, put in the hard work to become more aware of their own ongoing mental state, and use the meds when needed? Strong support networks are a big plus too, although can take hard work to repair if the person has gone a long time flailing without diagnosis or treatment....
All the BP type1 people I've met in particular have been super-intelligent, so it'd be interesting to see if any correlations are noted between high cognitive capacity & this condition? Some who are really clued-in to their mood patterns have even managed to leverage their high-energy times for entrepreneurial purposes, using stress-management techniques etc to help get thru the corresponding lows without spiraling... Guess it's all about clear self-knowledge and self-discipline. (Y'know, those adulting skills that most of us tend to struggle with even if NOT also living with mental health challenges!! 🤭)
This is excellent. I hope you'll eventually get around to a similar critique of media portrayals of Borderline Personality Disorder, a critical deconstruction of "Girl, Interrupted" (1999) in particular is long overdue. :)
Great video.
And also some people can have anxiety disorders, and clinical depression, so that some bad-at-their-jobs psychologist types can think that means you have BP I or II, when now you really don't. Yes, I am speaking for myself here. Because my anxiety disorder manifested itself as "manic" at times, and that contrasted with my clinical depression, which wasn't in episodes. Same as my social anxiety disorder in any social, but not in non-social situations, my depression wasn't something I cycled into, but existed at the same time as my anxiety.
I was older than the average Degrassi fan but I really enjoyed the early years of the reboot with spinner, Craig, drake and all them
The video I never knew I needed
Aaaand it's 12 hours away
I was misdiagnosed with bipolar. I have yet to get an accurate diagnosis. I just had medication thrown at me that put me in full psychosis.
can't wait..people forget to think about substances like drinking and smoking..cut those out before diagnosed and then talk
hope you discuss that
I’m fairly new here and really enjoyed this video. Do you have one on ptsd or complex ptsd? Thanks for the video
Not yet but will tackle it in the future!
Highly recommend 12-episode UK miniseries Flowers from 2016-2018. Made by young indie filmmaker Will Sharpe who has Bipolar. Best TV I've seen in the past decade other than The Return and Atlanta.
Since it wasn't mentioned, but one of the reasons the people struggling with bipolar disorder have a much higher suicide rate is caused by the mood swings of manic and depressive episodes.
When in a depressive state, it can cause the want, but without the will. While manic state gives the will without controlling the want.
The shift is when both can merge and collide the want and the will to do it.
As in a stabilized condition, most human beings will have mental blockers to prevent taking their own life.
I've got a friend who used to visit a free headshrinker that diagnosed him bipolar and put him on some stuff(lithium, i suppose). He changed his psychiatrist and the new one said that it's just a high functioning depression (or something like that, not an expert). Basically, the reason why the first doc thought he was bipolar is because he didn't feel tired all the time (tho, the other symptoms of depression were there)
It can be a minefield
Episode 1 was pretty good.
I'm a little surprised that you didn't include Ian Gallagher (and by extension, Monica Gallagher) from Shameless US. I feel like he's up there with some of the more well-known depictions. Either way, amazing video!
Thanks! Yeah wasn’t as well versed with the show so didn’t include it but may in the future!
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Great vid like the ADHD one. I only recently was diagnosed and when you look at your actions retrospectively, only then does it become clear how things were all along. Fortunately, I've had the means to speak with the right people, and I'm feeling quite well, having the ability to realize how my baseline was actually off in the past.
Me too with the adhd and recent diagnosis. Still waiting on treatment though. It’s so hard to get time to see the doctor when I’m already struggling to organize my day to day 🤦🏼♀️
I have bipolar (and borderline, chronic PTSD, anxiety, panic disorder, dissociative amnesia) and it is a struggle and a half because even if you take your meds, do therapy and almost plan your life around the disorder it’s still incredibly unpredictable. I have more trouble with people in the media throwing around the word bipolar as an insult or as if it doesn’t mean anything. Think of Katy perry in hot ‘n cold (got a case of the love bipolar) or when someone changes their mind (don’t be so bipolar).
Also if I have one more person tell me that it will go away when I’m thirty because my hormones change I will lose it
Also also I’m curious why you didn’t mention that bipolar is a hereditary disorder.
In the last vid I didn’t really go into the actual causes of ADHD so followed suit with this one. It can be very extensive and just talking about the possible causes can take up whole vids of their own.
what show/movie is the blonde at 4:27 with the dirt on her face from?
Would like to see one of these on Borderline or ASPD.
I mentioned this before but do you think for the next episode or so on, you tackle how mental illness is handled in comic book or video game characters?
The new Marvel Moon Knight series is going to tackle the character Marc Spector where we do see hints of his dissociative personality disorder, but it was mentioned before that people would confuse his disorder with schizophrenia. I’m not sure if this is because of who the people he meets or himself that attempt to deceive him of believing what his true identity is or because of the visions he has due to being revived in the Egyptian tomb. But because of it, he starts going under different alter egos, claiming to be a billionaire, a taxi driver and a consultant, under different names.
Then there’s DC’s Harvey Dent/Two Face who I hear some mentioned had suffered schizophrenia, but when seeing your episode on Bipolar Disorder, he does show symptoms of it, like Batman: The Animated Series episode Two-Face Part 1 and 2, where the character can’t handle the pressure of mockery that he lashes out on people who don’t need to be lashed out. And when Batman ends up preventing him from committing murder, by making him lose his coin (which belong to his abusive father who is the reason for his disorders), in which he starts throwing a raging tantrum, which ends with him breaking down into sobs, and his girlfriend calms him down. I do think this is meant to to show Bipolar 1, but seeing how he also suffers from schizophrenia and dissociative identity disorder, this may be mistaken.
I think rick dalton’s spiral in his trailer in once upon a time in hollywood is a good visualization of how fast it can spiral from heightened emotion into sadness and depression into suicidality, tho his bipolar isnt explicitly talked about in the movie the actor and director have said in interviews that he has it.
At least that’s how my hypomanic episodes go, i wouldnt know how people with type 1 or mania actually deal with it.
Weird you should say that. I was in hysterics when I saw that scene in the cinema partly because it felt like I was watching secret camera footage of myself… seems there may have been more to that after all…
What’s the pic at the very end? Meme photoshop or some collaborative spoof I missed?
as someone who was diagnosed with OCD recently and partly didn't think I had it because of media that depicted it as a little quirk that makes you neat and tidy, I wasn't getting a diagnosis for my disturbing intrusive thoughts and debilitating rituals I would do to cope with the anxiety and thoughts. I thought that because I was messy that meant I couldn't possibly have OCD.
Same
False at 3:56. A mixed state marked by rapid and unpredictable extreme mood shifts isn't uncommon for BP1 presenting w/ manic/psychotic/delusional features and can actually continue to present after manic symptoms abate or even devoid of psychotic features. It is largely a mood disorder, after all. I find the greater mis-characterization of the illness is the clinical one which broadly implies that mood fluctuations are indicated over long, drawn out periods. This can be truer for depression and lows but not so much for anything elevated.
Anyway it does take a skilled doctor to be able to differentiate between acute manic or psychotic features of bipolar vs. schizophrenia, and they will very often flub this as many simply do not have the expertise to understand it. Unfortunately, psychiatry is still quite far from a concrete, evolved scientific or medical discipline and we're still very much in the guinea pig phases of understanding and treating mental illnesses.
Can this be used as a writeing meterial thought?
bp2 gang here. a very well made video.
Great stuff!!!
I wonder if Autism Spectrum Disorder is on your list.
And also I want to see you take a huge dump on "Music" 😅
An interesting disorder to look at for this series would be Antisocial Personality Disorder, because that is so often treated as "the evil disorder" that 90%, of the population thinks that's what it is
It’s on the docket!
Next episode of this series should be about autism. Media portrays it as either being completely unable to take care of yourself or as an awkward super genius.
I got diagnosed Bipolar in 2018