Masterclass nº4 Shai Wosner - No. 17 - Barenboim on Beethoven

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2017
  • Playlist: • Barenboim on Beethoven...
    David Kadouch - Sonata No. 16, first movement.
    Saleem Abboud Ashkar - Sonata No. 21 "Waldstein", first movement.
    Lang Lang - Sonata No 23 "Appassionata" , first movement.
    Shai Wosner - Sonata No. 17 "Tempest", first movement.
    Alessio Bax - Sonata No. 29 "Hammerklavier", fourth movement.
    Jonathan Bliss - Sonata No. 30, third movement.

Комментарии • 70

  • @albanvic
    @albanvic Год назад +12

    The real beauty of this is that Barenboim the ultimate piano genius is imparting his knowledge to the next generation.

  • @JohnHarmer
    @JohnHarmer 3 года назад +12

    Barenboim injects an unbelievable energy into every single moment of the movement.

  • @jrodriguezpiano
    @jrodriguezpiano 3 года назад +54

    I notice a difference between Lang Lang, the world renowned concert pianist, and Shai, Shai takes criticism more slowly and sometimes with argument. Lang Lang makes corrections immediately and effortlessly. Maybe its not about how well you can play piano that determines your success, but how good you are at adapting and improving.

    • @playanythingmusictherapy
      @playanythingmusictherapy 3 года назад +8

      @James Cunico I agree with you there but I think something I noticed was that Lang Lang seemed much more open to the suggestions while it seemed to me that Shia took it personally. That's just my interpretation though.

    • @wwbdwwbd
      @wwbdwwbd 3 года назад +9

      @James Cunico "The ones that usually take a longer time to soak in new information retain the information better and put it to good use..." Utter nonsense. Decades of cognitive research have proven this to be completely false.

    • @davidsosa538
      @davidsosa538 3 года назад +11

      True, in that sense I would remark something that Lang Lang himself said on the interview, his early musical education in China was totally focused on technique and finger virtuosity, not so much on the concept, so he´s willing to easily accept everything that maestro Barenboim says about the concept (everyone should!), but some american, jewish or french pianists in the series have some other previously formed approach to some passages and it is difficult for them to quit it. Now, Lang´s ability to adjust effortlessly that you mention is indeed awesome, he is a technical virtuoso.

    • @albanvic
      @albanvic Год назад

      No surprise, Israelis argue about everything which is what makes them a great nation but musically they are number one. By that, I mean real music, not the garbage we are offended by every day.

    • @tinkerchel
      @tinkerchel Год назад +1

      I like Both Lang Lang and Shai. In Shai's defense, I admire that he was very thoughtful and humble in his responses to the Maestro. Though I agree Lang Lang showed truly humbleness(and genius) by taking instructions fast. I also think Shai's way of putting up a small fight as opposed to obeying blindly commendable.

  • @jazzporridge1506
    @jazzporridge1506 4 года назад +36

    Barenboim is a supreme ambassador for our civilisation. Soloist, accompanist, chamber musician, conductor, educator, diplomat, evangelist. I'd have him make First Contact with the aliens. I love him. These masterclasses are marvellous. Thanks.

  • @lecomtedelalune
    @lecomtedelalune 3 года назад +8

    I'm a massive admirer of Barenboim although not unreservedly so. However this lesson on the Tempest sonata is magnificent from beginning to end. In particular, his words about the a minor second subject are a revelation. Fascinating!

  • @ivanwebberdossantos2695
    @ivanwebberdossantos2695 Месяц назад

    Aulas magistrais. Legado de gênio para nossa evolução e compreenção das magníficas sonatas de Beethovem.

  • @iLoveChopin
    @iLoveChopin 3 года назад +5

    As an amateur, this video gives me encouragement. Even professional pianist gets shredded to bits.

  • @nevskixx
    @nevskixx 4 года назад +6

    This was a helpful masterclass. His experience of playing these sonatas all his life has given him perspective to go deeper with the student in this oft played well known work. It would have been more beneficial if he had talked about the remaining movements., but we can't have everything.

  • @christinestill5002
    @christinestill5002 4 года назад +19

    Barenboim & his first student who, like many, know the notes but can't teach the story, the feelings in the piece, the heart. Wonder if it's only family/ teachers allowed to watch. A date this took place would be great! Barenboim never looks at his piano; just knows every piece & waits to see which of his five languages you speak. Living genius.

  • @AbnerChamate
    @AbnerChamate 3 года назад +2

    So perfect this music on those hands. Thank you.

  • @ghirardellichocolate201
    @ghirardellichocolate201 2 года назад +3

    Really talented musician.

  • @peterkovacs9951
    @peterkovacs9951 4 года назад +19

    What kind of steinway is that?? It sounds so good.

  • @AndresPalaoOrtegaPiano
    @AndresPalaoOrtegaPiano 4 года назад +11

    5:05 ooooouh I know that man sitting alone in the last chair

  • @orlandomendez1995
    @orlandomendez1995 3 года назад +3

    Beethoven, so close to God, coming from hell. What could be of our existence without him?

  • @tinkerchel
    @tinkerchel Год назад

    Curious question: Why is Shai the only student not in the end credit dinner scene??
    I actually loved that bit~

  • @sherlockholmeslives.1605
    @sherlockholmeslives.1605 6 лет назад +9

    These people are far more brilliant than me!
    I can't play the piano but I mean their sheer giftedness compared with me having no gifts whatsoever!

    • @prs_81
      @prs_81 5 лет назад +12

      Mike Fuller no. They just work hard. You're blaming your laziness on "having no gifts".

    • @reliableandrew
      @reliableandrew 5 лет назад +3

      @@prs_81 ...Absolutely correct Paasiya, this is not 'intelligence', not even so much 'skill', it is WILL...of which sheer hard work is a component of.

  • @cristiangately2478
    @cristiangately2478 3 года назад +2

    como puede tocar el piano sin mirar las teclas?¿ que crack

  • @guillermolangle
    @guillermolangle 3 года назад +16

    “Young Steve Jobs uses wrong keyboard”

  • @Bigblackpiano
    @Bigblackpiano Год назад +1

    Someone should tell the student that he won't get vibrato by shaking his fingers after passing the key

  • @lvbdevinelove2329
    @lvbdevinelove2329 2 года назад +2

    Did this pianist Shai forget his sheet music ? For a masterclass with the great Maestro Barenboim? I try not to jump to conclusions...

    • @predrop
      @predrop Год назад

      They are supposed to remember the entire sheet, some just bring the sheet for the confort

  • @pepeloco65
    @pepeloco65  6 лет назад +17

    durissimo, me hace acordar al chino...

    • @franciscocarrasco8629
      @franciscocarrasco8629 6 лет назад

      pepeloco65 supongo que tú lo haces mejor, o me equivoco? (:

    • @alberto798
      @alberto798 6 лет назад +7

      Me descojono con tus comentarios en cada video

    • @pepeloco65
      @pepeloco65  6 лет назад +1

      A. G. No me vas a decir que no está bueno.. especialmente después del minuto veinte

    • @franciscocarrasco8629
      @franciscocarrasco8629 6 лет назад +1

      pepeloco65 ¿y para cuándo subes tu master con Barenboim? :o ¿o es que quizás eres tú el que le da clases? Maquinita del piano 😂😂😂

    • @marckantony3193
      @marckantony3193 6 лет назад

      Me doy cuenta que muchos profesores creen saber interpretar

  • @Garensonic
    @Garensonic 4 года назад +1

    He does not play repeat in the exposition

    • @TheodoreQDuong
      @TheodoreQDuong 4 года назад

      Garen Loshkajian No one did for this set of masterclasses. There were trying so save time I’d think

    • @anthonyc6017
      @anthonyc6017 3 года назад

      TD Cổ Nhạc yes precisely, if they play the same thing it would still be the same “ criticisms” and it is exactly to save time to have as much time learning from the mistakes as you can. Playing the repeat would just waste time

    • @jrodriguezpiano
      @jrodriguezpiano 3 года назад

      And no one playing in this scenario would, as is basic practice in masterclasses and lessons.

  • @alessandrociampa983
    @alessandrociampa983 3 года назад

    Oh God. John Wick!

  • @Bokgat
    @Bokgat 2 года назад

    if you have the ability says he. has none!!!

  • @sue2968
    @sue2968 5 лет назад +9

    ...저친구 마스터클래스갈만한 실력은 아닌거같은데;

  • @timotot123
    @timotot123 5 лет назад +7

    This dude comes across as a Bill Gates of piano. Totally unappealing

  • @kpunkt.klaviermusik
    @kpunkt.klaviermusik 3 года назад +6

    They are supposed to play without own personality. It's so sad how everything personal is wiped out. Don't we have enough robotic pianists?

    • @wwbdwwbd
      @wwbdwwbd 3 года назад +3

      We are never short of bad pianists and horrid interpretations. I'd like to see more 'robotic' pianists.

    • @kpunkt.klaviermusik
      @kpunkt.klaviermusik 3 года назад

      @@wwbdwwbd If everybody's playing would sound the same - why did you need more of them?

    • @wwbdwwbd
      @wwbdwwbd 3 года назад +3

      @@kpunkt.klaviermusik It's not possible for everyone's play to sound the same. We live in the real world, not some theoretical fantasy land. There will always be variations, and let there be more good variations than horrid ones.

    • @kpunkt.klaviermusik
      @kpunkt.klaviermusik 3 года назад

      @@wwbdwwbd The only person who is able to judge whether an interpretation is good or bad is the composer himself. Since the classical composers are all dead and we don't have recordings of them, this debate is quite pointless.

    • @wwbdwwbd
      @wwbdwwbd 3 года назад +6

      @@kpunkt.klaviermusik Disagree. Not even the composer themselves can be the final judge. Case in point, for his famous concertos, Rachmaninoff prefers Horowitz's interpretation over that of his own.

  • @Bokgat
    @Bokgat 2 года назад +3

    this guy is the least musical of all the jews of that era

  • @mateushayasaka
    @mateushayasaka 3 года назад

    I don't like that kind of interpretation, but does EVERYONE need to look like that? sometimes the classical musician needs to learn a little empathy and the reasons for making music

  • @howardchang6051
    @howardchang6051 5 лет назад +7

    Lots of wrong notes in his playing

    • @ericklavrador5015
      @ericklavrador5015 5 лет назад +28

      That's don't matter, toplay with wrong notes ok, to play without love for music is a shit!

    • @leot7
      @leot7 4 года назад +36

      "To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable." -LvB

    • @PrinsTan
      @PrinsTan 3 года назад

      Leo T “a” wrong note. But here many, and at his level I would think he would not make most of these.

    • @chrisy367
      @chrisy367 3 года назад +8

      @@PrinsTan it's possible that he's just nervous, i mean he's literally playing for barenboim

    • @berkayozkan34
      @berkayozkan34 3 года назад +1

      so what?

  • @emanuelkunt2882
    @emanuelkunt2882 5 лет назад +2

    If i wanted a masterclass with a weird pig creature i would go to a fucking farm!!!!