Question? When the threaded part broke off in the shell, did you have to get a new extractor tool because I don't see how that threaded part could be put back on the shaft of the tool? Just curious.
@@mikesamra9126 Yes, no way to properly reattach something that small, you could maybe build up a weld where the extractor threads used to be and properly quench, thread, heat and harden again, in a pinch and with proper knowledge and equipment...
This is a great video. I was able to get 6 of the 8 plugs out, and the last two broke. I was able to get the 7th one out, and the 8th gave me a lot of trouble (farthest one back on the passenger side, by the firewall). I almost gave up. I tried a dewalt 12volt impact with an extension with no luck. Here are the two things that I did, which made it successful and I hope anyone struggling will try this: 1. The sleeve that holds the extractor is loose and the extractor does not line up centered on the plug metal sleeve. To fix this, I added one rotation of electrical tape to the upper part of the extractor, which then made it line up perfectly. This really helped! 2. Even with the extractor lining up perfectly, it wouldn't bite. I tried pushing on the ratchet while turning, I tried an impact gun, etc. Then I took a ball pein hammer, and gave the extractor a few light taps. Then a few turns, then a few more light taps, and it grabbed! Do not hit the extractor very hard as you don't want to risk pushing the entire plug into the cylinder. Awesome way to have the first threads bite the metal. 3. Once my two broken plugs were extracted, I did 4-5 rounds of compressed air in each cylinder, followed by a shop vac hooked to a small clear tube that got all the way down into the cylinder head. Rotate the clear tubing around many times. Use a small shop vac, and start with the vac completely cleaned out. That way you can verify the pieces that you get out. Open and empty the shop vac after each round, and repeat the compressed air and shop vac routine until the shop vac doesn't have anything in it. This was the only way I could figure that I got all or most of the porcelain out. I replaced the remaining two plugs, put everything back together, and it runs like a brand new truck. My truck had 138,000 miles and the plugs were original. I can't believe it even ran. It even fixed what I thought was a transmission issue on the highway at low speed on an incline. No more shutter, and the truck is much quieter now. Ford wanted $1000 labor, $400 parts, $100 per broken plug, and a potential pulling of the head. If you have decent mechanical skill, patience, and the correct tools, you can do this job. Just plan on breaking a few and have the extractor ready!
Gus Muller reading this is going to help me this weekend. I am doing a whole tune up on this vehicle and watch is his other video on the removal gave me 2nd thoughts on doing it.
The extraction tool comes with a "porcelain pusher" for shoving the porcelain down further into ground tube. This is likely why your extractor didn't grab.
I want to thank you for this video. I was ready to pull the heads on my 5.4 when I saw this video. Bought the lisle tool and in 2 hours had 7 of the 8 tips pulled out. 1 plug came out complete. Thanks again! If you're ever in my area beer is on me!
I did this exact procedure and it worked beautifully. Thanks for making the video. Tip for anyone planning on doing this. You need 3/4, 11mm, 15/16, and a 16mm socket to do this job.
O. M. G. This was an experience. 06 Mustang GT...4 came out fine, 4 broke. Tried the kit with the glue and pins first, for 2 days, JUNK!!! Was freaking out. This video saved us! Got this Lisle kit and followed your video, they came right out! Was concerned about the ground strap breaking and pieces falling, realized it just stretched and popped the corner, no pieces! THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN! You really saved us! We have 2 Mustangs....one more to go, so....Thanks thanks thanks! Lifesaver! Like really, Thanks! 👍👏👍👏👍👏😁😁😁
Thank you so much for posting this video. Everyone has a little different way of doing this. When I did mine I sprayed about a teaspoon of DEEP CREEP into the cylinder one at a time. Then I waited about an hour before trying to remove it. I used an air impact wrench and just trickle it back and forth a little at a time until it finally broke loose. At the time I did this the truck only has 22,000 miles on it. I replaced them all and didn't break a one, knock on wood. Then I did this again when the truck had 54,000 miles on it and replaced them all with the second revision only to find out later there is a third revision plug. Even at 54,000 miles number four cylinder it took me four hours to finally get it out without breaking it. Yes I did put a good coat of anti size on all the threads when i did it the first time, so much for the anti size.
This Is The Best How To Video on RUclips for removing the very painful and costly Ford 3V broken Plugs if not done the way you suggest. Excellent video with clear camera shooting with very clear and thoroughly explained procedural steps. Thanks Huge Brian!! You really are tops.
@@FordTechMakuloco I like the way your tool only has 2 threads worn where the spark plug was screwed inside the head when you showed us the tour of that tool 👍is that type of plug faulty in all cars/ trucks way over due for maintenance or just a Ford problem? I've never seen or used that type of plug yet just standard normal looking ones
Motorcraft learned its lesson with these plugs and the new plugs' design was changed. I watched this great video, bought the Lisle tool for $65, and changed all 8 on my 2006 F150. The truck had 144,000 miles on it then (too much I know before a first spark plug change). Even with overnight soaking I broke 4 out of 8. The Lisle tool took care of extracting all in short order. The old plugs had normal wear indications. After I finished, I realized this is no big deal and was glad I had not paid a shop to do this job. The added time for extracting the 4 broken plugs was about an hour. Ford does have a settlement to partially reimburse those who paid big bills to get their plugs changed before 120,000 miles. Many thanks to FordTechMakuloco.
my friend recently took his '04 XTR into the garage for a $49 tune up and as they were trying to replace the plugs they started cracking. They tried to remove them with some cement stuff but in the end had to take the heads off. Total cost $4,800! If you took this to the Ford dealership you would think they'd know this is likely going to happen and would warn the consumer. I get the impression he got ripped off. I want to send your video to him but I'm afraid he might cry haha. Nice camera work, love the detail!!! Keep the videos coming :-)
Dealers knew about this years ago and how to extract. Even the smallest independent shop should know about the spark plug fiasco and how to extract. The tool is like $65 on Amazon no reason not have it. His tune up should of been more like $400 something- 2.5 hrs labor plus $20 a plug. We warn customer upfront that each plug will be an additional 1/2 hr labor. I just had the extractor tool itself break off in the head and it looked like I would have to pull the head, but I still extracted the extractor too and saved the customer over $3,500 on that alone. Either way he got hosed. Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for this video. The best one on RUclips. You gave me the encouragement and detail instructions to perform this job. I removed 8 plugs: 7 broken. These are the original plugs with 150+k miles. Truck runs smooth now and no more shuddering in OD due to misfires. Thanks so much. I watch a ton of videos and learn so much from you. Keep up the good work. I wish your business was in VA. I would surely have you service my truck.
I Had one plug break on me when changing out plugs on my 2007 f150 5.4l . I went and purchased the exact tool and followed your directions to the tee . It came right out with no issues . Thanks for posting this repair. You saved me a lot of cash
FordTechMakuloco, you are awesome and so is that tool. I broke 3 off in my Explorer. Bought the tool and had them all out in less than an hour. The truck runs like new. Thanks again.
Thanks for all the great information. My old man and I have a small auto repair shop and have always been weary of changing ford triton spark plugs. We would always tell customers we didn't change those but after watching your video finally got the courage to change triton spark plugs. Did our first job today, five of eight broke but using the extractor was easy. Thanks for the great video.
Followed advice, worked perfectly. Isle tool stripped on the last plug but I still got it out. Not the 'easy out' part but the upper large retract nut. I had to pull and pry entire thing together but it came out. That plug wasn't that blocked with carbon so it did eventually come out. Thanks so much for the great video, saved my over $700 in shop costs and all it cost me was time online and $100. Thanks for the great design Ford.
I use a shop vac with a small piece of clear tubing taped to the hose, then stick it in the cylinder to remove any small porcelain pieces, thought I'd share! Nice video!
That's exactly what I was thinking when he started blowing out the inside of the cylinder. Should be able to vacuum out the small loose debris fairly easy. Good video though. He did a good job overall.
I would do both actually. Use the long-reach blow gun but have the vac hose right over the hole. The blow gun has more pressure so it will dislodge things that the vac will not, but then the vac is right there to grab the debris
This is an excellent instruction video on the usage of the Lisle style broken plug removal tool... from a guy who's done a lot of them. Be sure to see his other updated video on the removal of unbroken said plugs by heating the engine RIGHT UP to operating temperature. FTM, you are an invaluable RUclips resource when I am working on Fords. THANK YOU!
Just did the spark plugs on my '04 f-150 5.4. The 2 that broke were luckily the two front plugs which are easy to access. I bought the Lisle tool online for $69 and it paid for itself. I made the mistake of disconnecting the computer box from the firewall on the passenger side to get at the last plug. What I didn't know that doing that puts the computer into failsafe mode. Now I needed an ODB tool to reset the computer since it wouldn't move (started but no throttle). I have a friend who is a mechanic and lent me his. Be aware of that before you disconnect the computer. The whole job took about 5 hours, but if I did it again I could do it in less time. MY local Ford dealer wanted $800 to do this, and I have only $250 invested which includes the plugs, boots, Lisle tool, magnetic socket wrench, and a long pair of needle nose. All these videos on youtube helped alot !
Tom... I believe that disconnecting your ECU (computer) to do this job is an necessary evil. I've done this twice on my 05 F150 and I dont see ANY WAY you can remove the back two plugs on the passenger side without getting it out of the way. Bryan here has a video on how to reset your ECU after taking it out and it might be a blessing in disguise,. Most people say that after resetting your ECU that their truck runs and shifts MUCH better
Changed the plugs on my 2005 Expedition this past weekend and listened to your advice and your were right on bro! I broke the number 5&8 plugs and used the lisle tool and it worked perfect. Two hours to changed all plugs. Engine must be hot and soak the plugs for at least one hour. Used some kind of bg penetrating oil my brother uses at his shop and it worked great. 3/8 snap on impact gun took them right out. Tried 75 foot pounds of torque and wouldn't budge them. The impact is a 300 ft lbs torque and that's about right to loosen the plugs. Thanks for making great videos!
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Because somebody’s after and better paid than me, you, every Ford owner and mechanic said it was a great idea and should be mass produced immediately.
i just did mine,its an 07 89k and i had that hesitation under acceleration,bought the tool at napa for 80 bucks,what i did is had the engine warm up,took the coils out,spray every hole with PB blaster and used the 3/8 gun,none broke,they came out easy,took the tool back to napa for refund,but anyways great video,thanks a lot.
Okay thank you. Was your engine light ever on or flashing when it was misfiring? Mine has popped on once when it did it and flashed for a couple seconds but it no longer comes on when it happens Sent from my iPhone
i too am a ford certified tech. i worked at the dealer for 5 years. i am now a diesel fleet ambulance mechanic. you've prolly heard about the 3/8 th inch impact being used to remove these plugs. ive done countless 3v tune ups this way and i havent had one break off. be sure to push down on the impact while you loosen them up.
Thanks for the help! 2006 Mustang GT with 30k miles. Figured I would pull the plugs hoping none would break with the low miles, but they have been in there for 9 years LOL. Anyways, 4 came out no problem, 4 broke. I borrowed this tool from a friend and watched your video to figure out how to use it. With the tool and your instructions the broken plugs came out just fine. Really pretty easy to use too. Thanks for the help!!
Excellent video!While pulling the coil pack off of one of the plugs, the coil seperated. I put the spring terminal back through and re-attached. Seams to run fine, and no trouble codes. Ford told me about $125 PER coil to replace here in Canada eh. Thats parts -no labour! Wow! I followed these drections, and it worked great on my 2007 Sport Trac 4.6! Thank you!
you mean the coil separated from the spring and boot? They're supposed to come apart, I took all mine off and scraped off the corrosion, put some dielectric grease on each end of each spring, put them all back together, and put em back in. Solved my misfire at nearly no cost.
I had one of eight break yesterday with the electrode broke off with the porcelin. I have to wait a few days for the tool to arrive but I hope it works like it did for you. Thanks for your videos, saved me thousands $$$
I started research this with intentions to buy 5.4 truck, this vid was great, reminded me so much of the last Ford I had, I'm not going to buy the truck with 101 thousand on it.
2002 4.6 v6 f150, I just did my spark plugs and wires, before cracking them loose I sprayed penetrating fluid on all of the plugs and I also was very careful before cracking the spark plugs loose. Thank God I didn't break any. I just bought this truck from my neighbor and it was my first time doing them
Kyle Feilmeier i think the ones with this plug issue are the 2004 to 2008 trucks with the 2 piece motorcrap plugs..i have a 2001 4.6 and had no problem getting them changed
So I have this problem right now and the top of the spark plug is still there I have an oem Ford Triton broken spark plug porcelain and Electrode removal set will this work the same way as the other Lyle set I am nervous about doing this job but in the middle of it right as we speak
Same here thankyou so much for the instructional video. Out of 8 spark plugs only one broke and it was at the front of the engine. Overall it took about 3 1/2 hours.
this is the first bit of info i've seen that 1. clearly shows what the problem is, and 2. how the extractor tool works. not as scared now to do my original plugs on the ol' 08 mustang with 105k on her :) thank you!
After seeing all the trouble the 5.4 3-valves are, I am glad I decided to buy an older 5.4 2-valve. Will just wait and get a new truck when I retire in a few years.
I'm a auto tech also. Worked for Ford 8 years and 16 years at small shops. Just did my spark plugs on my 05 Mustang and I broke cyld 1 and cyld 5. Used my Matco extract tool to get them out. Now the question from tech to tech. I heard that using a impact does a better job in removing these type plugs. Just want to know your professional opinion about that. Seems to be a over kill in getting these fragile spark plugs out. But they say the constant motion keeps them from breaking. How do you feel about that and have you ever used this technique? Thanks for a great video....
I own a Ford F150 2004 5.4 3V with 80k as well manage to take all 7 of them with out breaking just broke one in cylinder #1 panic at first but came across your video i needed to fix right away its my work truck so did not want to wait for shipping and looked at my local auto parts the only one that carried and had it in stock was NAPA in Orange County, CA. Pick it up $80 And worked well was able to extract the tip that got stuck inside was scared at first but gave it a try and worked well thanks alot highly recommend the Leisle tool. Thanks alot for video. FordTechMakuloco
Changed coils and plugs in my 2006 Ford F150 5.4L this weekend. Had one plug bust on me. Used this tool per your directions and it worked perfect...thanks.
Useful to see, mine has just left the bottom metal part of the plug on 1 cylinder, I was so careful taking them out, didn't even feel it breaking, felt just like the others. I've heard there's an updated plug for these that's one piece of metal?
I changed mine a couple of months ago. Warmed up the engine for a few minutes then sprayed each plug with pb blaster and let it sit for about half an hour. I used a 3/8” socket wrench since I don’t have an impact wrench. 4 of the plugs broke and I initially used the extractor tool that they rent out at oreilley’s. It worked very poorly, and didn’t extract any of them. Bought the lisle tool and it worked really well. Make sure you have an air compressor to blow out any broken porcelain or metal shaving before extracting. It really sucked and I’m not really that knowledgeable when it comes to working on cars or trucks, but I’m glad I did it on my own instead of taking it to the dealership
First and foremost, Thank you for this amazing video! I have a 06 mustang GT ~130K miles, no idea when the plugs were last changed so I went into this expecting to break some. I took all precautions, PB Blaster overnight and a really gentle approach. I broke 5 of 8. 1 broke as expected in this video, 4 of them the nut and thread portion broke off leaving the porcelin and electrode fully intact. With the new version of the lisle tool I was able to get the porcelin out of 2 nice and clean. On the 2 remaining the electrode broke off and the porcelin is still fully intact. I am assuming that now I need to start smashing away at the porcelin to get it to the "normal" broken state. I know the electrode is broken really high up so that will be a project as well (hopefully I will be able to yank it out with pliers) but I wanted to ask here if anyone has encountered this or has any good ideas before I start smashing porcelin? Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. Just changed plugs in my 2007 5.4 F150. Got lucky. Only one plug broke. Cylinder 6. Lisle tool worked perfectly. It's a generation 4. The other plugs came out after soaking in Motorcraft solvent. Truck runs Great! Will take out on highway to make sure shudder at 45-50 miles an hour in overdrive has been eliminated.
I'm extremely exited with this video and shouted 00:10:00 lol. Now I have same issue and I've ordered head gasket kit for removing cylinder head. I was blue with the necessity to work such a heavy article in back yard, but now I'm feelin' like in the clear blue summer sky. I just ordered same removal tool and can't wait to try it! Thank you very much!!!
@@alfredquintero4421 I had a Chevy Venture that was a HUGE NIGHTMARE to try and change the plugs on. To get to the back plugs you had to remove the damn engine mounts and roll the engine forward. Then of course the plug wires tore to shit and needed to be replaced because god forbid you could reuse them. Don't think Chevy/GM is easy. those bastards are just as bad or even worse than Ford. Most of Ford parts are just bolt on/off without having to disassemble half the damn motor
@@alfredquintero4421 Chevys suck. Just stop. I would rather deal with Ford then government bailout GM. My buddy has a GMC vortex max, had the transfer case and transmission go out and it's under 80 thousand miles. Biggest pieces of crap you can buy.
Jorgeothejungle Sounds like your body does nt know how to drive a truck , and probaly why everyone see 's more Fords !! , NEW AND OLD FOUND DEAD ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD !! . JUST KEEPING IT REAL !!! .
Thank you!!!! i bought an expedition, heard after the fact of this issue haven't changed them but just frozeee to what I was told about the plugs but seeing your video puts my mind at ease when the time comes just as long as I got the proper tools thanks!!!!!!!
This is by for the best instructional video for this ANYWHERE on the internet! Great explanation. Will I need to go buy deep sockets for this or will standard sockets work fine?
AWESOME!!!!! thanks a million brother! was already shittin it cause i have a triton with this exact problem ... called my Snap-on dealer and he had it in stock... saved me out a jam thanks to this vid!
Excellent video. But I find myself wondering why Ford didn't take a second to apply a little anti-seize on the plug when the engine was being assembled. Would have saved a lot of mechanics a lot of headaches down the road.
Haven’t tried the procedure yet, but confidence level is very high. A thought about porcelain chips. If you have a fairly nice shop vac, my thought is to adapt down to a hose that will fit down into the cylinder and suck out what you can first. In addition prior to even trying to extract the plugs, blow off the entire area first. No need to get debris into the well in the beginning. There’s also a procedure to use a large amount of carb cleaner before attempting removal. It worked on 6 out of the 8, and the two that broke were in the front of the engine as opposed to back against the fire wall. Very much worth the effort to possibly get a few easy to get to extractions as opposed to the nightmare ones. Ask any dentist.
Just did the plugs in my 07 F150 5.4 today Let me tell you...what a nightmare it was! Plugs had about 65k on them and I ran 3 tanks of Techron gas treatment leading up to the change. (Which had ZERO effect). I started at 7am this morning and finished at 6pm. Only #2 came out in one piece the rest broke. I followed the TSB to the T. Thank god for the lisle tool and the extra extractor I bought since the first one lost its bite after 3 plugs. (Yes I used anti-seize on the threads). For now on 20k miles plugs are getting changed. Now I feel like I need a knee and back replacement...😁
+THETOPGLOCK About to tackle the plugs on our 07 Expedition. That anti seize coating sounds like a yearly maintenance job. Have no other car suv that has that. I guess ford changed the spark plugs after 08.
+Chuck Gerchow yeah Ford redesigned the head with a late 07 engine build date to a "normal " spark plug. Like I said 20-30k I'll be changing them again. Have you done a passenger side exhaust manifold yet? Another special nightmare of its own. Oh the phasers and timing components.....I did the timing set/phasers last weekend and actually I would do it again over a plug change any day. 3v 5.4 is a great engine if you have the ability to correct all the short comings yourself and save $$$. Sorry for the long reply This channel has the very best information I've seen. Nothing beats a good video
@Ken Elliott Dude. Shhh. With crush gasket, 1/2 to 2/3 turn after finger tight. Without crush gasket, 1/4 to 1/3 turn after finger tight. THESE SPARK PLUGS ARE IN A DEEP TUBE, you're not putting them in without a damned socket on em as well as an extension...Unless you got damned fingers like an anteaters tongue.
@Ken Elliott also bro, on the '04-'08 triton 5.4l 3valve engine, THIS IS NORMAL, it's a poor design that Ford's acknowledged and fixed for late model 08-14 engines. IN FACT, this 04-08 design was meant to fix the 5.4 2v problem of too few threads and too thin head deck which caused the 2v to shoot plugs out of the head if thread's got damaged, and or late life 300k mi engines that have had 30 sets of plugs through them...!
Most saying this makes them scared to change there spark plugs, this just gave me more encouragement to change them tbh. Thank you for the video I will definitely follow your procedure!
You just saved me from having to take my ‘06 Mustang GT to the shop. The AutoZone kit wasn’t worth a shit, ordered this kit and in 5 minutes got the broken plug pulled and replaced. My baby runs like new
I have to say this was the best detailed video I've watched thanks a lot. And about the small pieces of porcelain going into the cylinder my worries were taken away with this video.
Thanks for showing this. There was a lot more detail in this video than the other ones I saw. Did mines and broke three plugs. But that extractor tool worked great. I also bought the Champions Double Platinum sparkplugs. Now she runs great and no problems whatsoever.
My mustang has over 150k with the original spark plugs... whoops. I tried the seafoam and overnight soak method and I got 6 out without a break but two decided they wanted to cost me $100 for the tool. Thank you for this video!!! The step by step instructions and camera angles are PERFECT! Fingers crossed they come out as well as the one in the video does!
4 came out whole and 4 cracked. The tool worked perfectly along with your instructions. I would NOT have tightened them nearly enough if you didn't cite the cracking and awful sounds being a good thing in this case. Thanks again sir!
About to go insane trying to figure out this extractor kit. After a nights rest, and finally finding a GOOD video on it, hopefully I can get these plugs out. Thank you!
I realize this post is old but I just took my plugs out (06 mustang GT) 2nd owner, never been changed. 4 broke, 2 each bank. Gonna buy the tool in the next couple days and give it a shot. I went ahead and installed comp motha thumpr cams while I was at it.lol...wish me luck.
James Washer stripped heads are only an issue on the 2v versions, which were due the heads only having 2 or 3 threads. They were redesigned in 2003.5 with more threads just before ford went to the 3v in 2004.
The Lisle tool worked just as you described on the 1st plug. However, the threads were complete rounded off after just one plug. I need to do several and had to order additional extractor rods. I'm hoping it is not a one and done per plug, but I'm preparing for it. Update, I got the replacement extractor rods. One pulled the remaining plugs with no issues. I"m not sure why the first one failed after one plug pull. I would also suggest getting the porcelain puller because it was very difficult to pull the rear most plugs out.
Just this evening I got the P0301 code on my 07 F-150...Tomorrow I will change out the COP first on No.1 and if that doesn't do it I'll replace the injector...If that 's not the problem I'll just go ahead and order the Lisle 65600 along with a set of Motorcraft SP515's, some anti seize, and carb cleaner...Sounds like real fun!
Thanks a bunch for this video mate! Saved us a huge amount of trouble. We recently picked up a falcon ute with a 5.4L in it and went to change plugs only to find that 6 out of 8 were seized. After finding your videos online we actually had hope that this was saveable! We ordered the tool and followed your instructions and BAM! all 8 plugs successfully out. Cheers!
I love you videos by the way. You have helped me greatly maintaining my ford that is new to me. Just last week I flushed the power staring fluid, serviced the diff, and changing tran fluid going off your videos!
Awesome video, thanks for posting. I've got the confidence now to replace the plugs on my 4.6 3v knowing that if I have a break I can remedy without calling in someone who's eager to take few hundred dollars from me. Your video's are great man, thank you.
Brian, it seems to me that if a plug breaks off, it would be prudent to remove the top portion, and spray solvent into the well and let it set before attempting extraction. This is, of course a DIY recommendation, where one has plenty of time. I would think that Seafoam or Berrymans B12 additive would really work well to dissolve that carbon. As I have said on other posts, I cut three longitudinal cuts in the threads of my lisle tool with my Dremel tool with a thin carbide wheel to help engagement of the extractor.
On one hand, best to let carb cleaner sit overnight, as I did, but on the other hand, best to remove plugs when warm, those are opposites here in Minnesota! Removed front 6 plugs so far on V10 2005 6.8l with one breaking so far. Just watched vid as refresher to extract shell, and will do tonight. Saving four plugs under firewall as I get practice on front six. Man those back ones will be hard to get to with just about any tool, impact , or extractor or even my hand!
dan how did u get to the back ones? i got a broken plug on the right side far back. could bearly get swivel head plug remover in there to find a BROKEN plug already in there. not sure what to do from here
I like Kroil oil, squirt it around the spark plug in the head, and then tighten the spark pugs just a little and let sit for 5 minutes. This allows the oil to penetrate and Does not stress the threads of the spark plugs and it is turning the way it was last time, tight. I find this process works very well
Hooray my mechanice got number 8 how and when you see that man o man does it feel good. We used this video for a guide. We blew everything out then started the engine to make sure the rest came out all good from nj!
Getting ready to do the plugs on my 2010 f150. I hope I don't have to do this. Thanks for the video and many other of yours. You have saved me a ton of money with your helpful and well though out clear and to the point explications. Thanks a lot.
@@taylorburton4565 went smoothly. Followed this method, used Kroil penitrating oil and did it while the engine was hot. Did one side then drove it around and then did the other side. I had no problem at all.
I definitely learned your procedure of how to extract using this tool. Doesn’t seems easy but I find it very useful and positive . Thank you so much hopefully it doesn’t happen to me so I’m opt to buy the season to mix with the gas tank to prepare for an easy solution to my problem
I hated this issue I had with my truck. Broke 3 back cylinders spark plugs. I couldn’t get it extracted at all! So I had to tow my truck to Ford and they actually gave me a discount to get them out and install the new plugs I had. $120 total After I’ve changed the plugs twice every 40,000 miles. The new Ford plugs are not three piece and did not break. After I tried to e-3 spark plugs. Ran a little better so far
I have a 2006 f350 5.4 3v and i didnt break any plugs thank god!!! And the most difficult ones was cylinder 4 8 and 7 but i found the best ratchet to use was matcos low profile curved spark plug 88 tooth 3/8 ratchet
Changed mine today one broke but easy extraction, for 190 thousand miles on it the plugs were carbon free and looked like new...changed the coils while I was at it , the 2005 has another couple hundred thousand left in her...
I agree with ford maniac,3/8 impact on a warm motor works 99.9 % of the time,doesnt hurt to do an upper engine induction clean with sea foam, coats the problematic piece with lubricant and helps if your doing a full tune up. done at least a 100 my self,some are prone to break no matter what, and lyle tool is the best extractor
Yes I have to agree and that is what I show in my removal video. The lisle tool is great but the early ones the extractor is prone to breakage when extracting the broken off plug tip. The newest one I have is the 4th generation design as indicated by the stripes on the extractor and thus far has worked great no breakage.
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plug part # still correct have to do mine again?
My question is why do they break? Was watching another video and the guy said it was always the back ones.
Thanks Bro. Used your affiliate link for an extraction tool, hope it helps!
Question? When the threaded part broke off in the shell, did you have to get a new extractor tool because I don't see how that threaded part could be put back on the shaft of the tool? Just curious.
@@mikesamra9126 Yes, no way to properly reattach something that small, you could maybe build up a weld where the extractor threads used to be and properly quench, thread, heat and harden again, in a pinch and with proper knowledge and equipment...
This is a great video. I was able to get 6 of the 8 plugs out, and the last two broke. I was able to get the 7th one out, and the 8th gave me a lot of trouble (farthest one back on the passenger side, by the firewall). I almost gave up. I tried a dewalt 12volt impact with an extension with no luck.
Here are the two things that I did, which made it successful and I hope anyone struggling will try this:
1. The sleeve that holds the extractor is loose and the extractor does not line up centered on the plug metal sleeve. To fix this, I added one rotation of electrical tape to the upper part of the extractor, which then made it line up perfectly. This really helped!
2. Even with the extractor lining up perfectly, it wouldn't bite. I tried pushing on the ratchet while turning, I tried an impact gun, etc. Then I took a ball pein hammer, and gave the extractor a few light taps. Then a few turns, then a few more light taps, and it grabbed! Do not hit the extractor very hard as you don't want to risk pushing the entire plug into the cylinder. Awesome way to have the first threads bite the metal.
3. Once my two broken plugs were extracted, I did 4-5 rounds of compressed air in each cylinder, followed by a shop vac hooked to a small clear tube that got all the way down into the cylinder head. Rotate the clear tubing around many times. Use a small shop vac, and start with the vac completely cleaned out. That way you can verify the pieces that you get out. Open and empty the shop vac after each round, and repeat the compressed air and shop vac routine until the shop vac doesn't have anything in it. This was the only way I could figure that I got all or most of the porcelain out.
I replaced the remaining two plugs, put everything back together, and it runs like a brand new truck. My truck had 138,000 miles and the plugs were original. I can't believe it even ran. It even fixed what I thought was a transmission issue on the highway at low speed on an incline. No more shutter, and the truck is much quieter now. Ford wanted $1000 labor, $400 parts, $100 per broken plug, and a potential pulling of the head.
If you have decent mechanical skill, patience, and the correct tools, you can do this job. Just plan on breaking a few and have the extractor ready!
Gus Muller reading this is going to help me this weekend. I am doing a whole tune up on this vehicle and watch is his other video on the removal gave me 2nd thoughts on doing it.
Once you have the OEM plugs out do you replace with the same flawed designed plugs or are they new ones designed better?
@@stevenweede7184 04-08 engines are going to take same design flawed plug.
The extraction tool comes with a "porcelain pusher" for shoving the porcelain down further into ground tube. This is likely why your extractor didn't grab.
Thanks for the tips!!!!
I want to thank you for this video. I was ready to pull the heads on my 5.4 when I saw this video. Bought the lisle tool and in 2 hours had 7 of the 8 tips pulled out. 1 plug came out complete. Thanks again! If you're ever in my area beer is on me!
I did this exact procedure and it worked beautifully. Thanks for making the video. Tip for anyone planning on doing this. You need 3/4, 11mm, 15/16, and a 16mm socket to do this job.
Francisco Gallegos thanks man !
I'm pretty sure you also need a 7mm socket for the coil bolt.
Francisco Gallegos and a bottle of jack
@@jima3129 bmws r junk.
About how much time does it take to extract a spark plug?
O. M. G. This was an experience. 06 Mustang GT...4 came out fine, 4 broke. Tried the kit with the glue and pins first, for 2 days, JUNK!!! Was freaking out. This video saved us! Got this Lisle kit and followed your video, they came right out! Was concerned about the ground strap breaking and pieces falling, realized it just stretched and popped the corner, no pieces! THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN! You really saved us! We have 2 Mustangs....one more to go, so....Thanks thanks thanks! Lifesaver! Like really, Thanks! 👍👏👍👏👍👏😁😁😁
Thank you so much for posting this video. Everyone has a little different way of doing this.
When I did mine I sprayed about a teaspoon of DEEP CREEP into the cylinder one at a time.
Then I waited about an hour before trying to remove it. I used an air impact wrench and just
trickle it back and forth a little at a time until it finally broke loose. At the time I did this the
truck only has 22,000 miles on it. I replaced them all and didn't break a one, knock on wood.
Then I did this again when the truck had 54,000 miles on it and replaced them all with the
second revision only to find out later there is a third revision plug. Even at 54,000 miles
number four cylinder it took me four hours to finally get it out without breaking it. Yes I
did put a good coat of anti size on all the threads when i did it the first time, so much
for the anti size.
This Is The Best How To Video on RUclips for removing the very painful and costly Ford 3V broken Plugs if not done the way you suggest. Excellent video with clear camera shooting with very clear and thoroughly explained procedural steps. Thanks Huge Brian!! You really are tops.
+Hawaiian F150 Thanks!
@@FordTechMakuloco I like the way your tool only has 2 threads worn where the spark plug was screwed inside the head when you showed us the tour of that tool 👍is that type of plug faulty in all cars/ trucks way over due for maintenance or just a Ford problem? I've never seen or used that type of plug yet just standard normal looking ones
Motorcraft learned its lesson with these plugs and the new plugs' design was changed. I watched this great video, bought the Lisle tool for $65, and changed all 8 on my 2006 F150. The truck had 144,000 miles on it then (too much I know before a first spark plug change). Even with overnight soaking I broke 4 out of 8. The Lisle tool took care of extracting all in short order. The old plugs had normal wear indications. After I finished, I realized this is no big deal and was glad I had not paid a shop to do this job. The added time for extracting the 4 broken plugs was about an hour. Ford does have a settlement to partially reimburse those who paid big bills to get their plugs changed before 120,000 miles. Many thanks to FordTechMakuloco.
the parts houses I deal with (Oreilly's and Advance, ) sell you the extraction tool and then buy it back when through!
my friend recently took his '04 XTR into the garage for a $49 tune up and as they were trying to replace the plugs they started cracking. They tried to remove them with some cement stuff but in the end had to take the heads off. Total cost $4,800! If you took this to the Ford dealership you would think they'd know this is likely going to happen and would warn the consumer. I get the impression he got ripped off.
I want to send your video to him but I'm afraid he might cry haha.
Nice camera work, love the detail!!!
Keep the videos coming :-)
Dealers knew about this years ago and how to extract. Even the smallest independent shop should know about the spark plug fiasco and how to extract. The tool is like $65 on Amazon no reason not have it. His tune up should of been more like $400 something- 2.5 hrs labor plus $20 a plug. We warn customer upfront that each plug will be an additional 1/2 hr labor. I just had the extractor tool itself break off in the head and it looked like I would have to pull the head, but I still extracted the extractor too and saved the customer over $3,500 on that alone. Either way he got hosed. Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for this video. The best one on RUclips. You gave me the encouragement and detail instructions to perform this job. I removed 8 plugs: 7 broken. These are the original plugs with 150+k miles. Truck runs smooth now and no more shuddering in OD due to misfires. Thanks so much. I watch a ton of videos and learn so much from you. Keep up the good work. I wish your business was in VA. I would surely have you service my truck.
Thanks! I used you link and bought the tool. I had 5 broken plugs. Thanks to your video, I pulled all of them without incident.
I Had one plug break on me when changing out plugs on my 2007 f150 5.4l . I went and purchased the exact tool and followed your directions to the tee . It came right out with no issues . Thanks for posting this repair. You saved me a lot of cash
FordTechMakuloco, you are awesome and so is that tool. I broke 3 off in my Explorer. Bought the tool and had them all out in less than an hour. The truck runs like new. Thanks again.
After breaking 3 spark plugs this video REALLY HELPED ME FIX the problem myself. THANK YOU
Thanks for all the great information. My old man and I have a small auto repair shop and have always been weary of changing ford triton spark plugs. We would always tell customers we didn't change those but after watching your video finally got the courage to change triton spark plugs. Did our first job today, five of eight broke but using the extractor was easy. Thanks for the great video.
How much extra did you charge todo the extractions? I ask because I have a customer coming that wants it done
Followed advice, worked perfectly. Isle tool stripped on the last plug but I still got it out. Not the 'easy out' part but the upper large retract nut. I had to pull and pry entire thing together but it came out. That plug wasn't that blocked with carbon so it did eventually come out. Thanks so much for the great video, saved my over $700 in shop costs and all it cost me was time online and $100. Thanks for the great design Ford.
I use a shop vac with a small piece of clear tubing taped to the hose, then stick it in the cylinder to remove any small porcelain pieces, thought I'd share! Nice video!
1bbpracing Yup always a good idea.
That's exactly what I was thinking when he started blowing out the inside of the cylinder. Should be able to vacuum out the small loose debris fairly easy. Good video though. He did a good job overall.
auto body guy
Im glad i read your comment because that is exactly what I ended up doing. Thanks!!
I would do both actually. Use the long-reach blow gun but have the vac hose right over the hole. The blow gun has more pressure so it will dislodge things that the vac will not, but then the vac is right there to grab the debris
This is an excellent instruction video on the usage of the Lisle style broken plug removal tool... from a guy who's done a lot of them. Be sure to see his other updated video on the removal of unbroken said plugs by heating the engine RIGHT UP to operating temperature. FTM, you are an invaluable RUclips resource when I am working on Fords. THANK YOU!
Just did the spark plugs on my '04 f-150 5.4. The 2 that broke were luckily the two front plugs which are easy to access. I bought the Lisle tool online for $69 and it paid for itself. I made the mistake of disconnecting the computer box from the firewall on the passenger side to get at the last plug. What I didn't know that doing that puts the computer into failsafe mode. Now I needed an ODB tool to reset the computer since it wouldn't move (started but no throttle). I have a friend who is a mechanic and lent me his. Be aware of that before you disconnect the computer. The whole job took about 5 hours, but if I did it again I could do it in less time. MY local Ford dealer wanted $800 to do this, and I have only $250 invested which includes the plugs, boots, Lisle tool, magnetic socket wrench, and a long pair of needle nose. All these videos on youtube helped alot !
Just to add: I'm now getting 1.2 MPG better mileage, so the $250 I spent will be recouped in less than one year !
Tom... I believe that disconnecting your ECU (computer) to do this job is an necessary evil. I've done this twice on my 05 F150 and I dont see ANY WAY you can remove the back two plugs on the passenger side without getting it out of the way. Bryan here has a video on how to reset your ECU after taking it out and it might be a blessing in disguise,. Most people say that after resetting your ECU that their truck runs and shifts MUCH better
Thanks for the heads up on the computer disconnect.
Blessings to you and yours.
Changed the plugs on my 2005 Expedition this past weekend and listened to your advice and your were right on bro! I broke the number 5&8 plugs and used the lisle tool and it worked perfect. Two hours to changed all plugs. Engine must be hot and soak the plugs for at least one hour. Used some kind of bg penetrating oil my brother uses at his shop and it worked great. 3/8 snap on impact gun took them right out. Tried 75 foot pounds of torque and wouldn't budge them. The impact is a 300 ft lbs torque and that's about right to loosen the plugs. Thanks for making great videos!
Mr223wssm Sounds about right.
I just wanna meet the ford idiot who designed this crap.
RIIIIIIGHT??? IDIOTS!
certified30 bro give me 5 minutes alone with this guy lol
hopefully F'er is on unemployment by now
A three piece spark plug. How did that get past RND ?
@@rolandthethompsongunner64 Because somebody’s after and better paid than me, you, every Ford owner and mechanic said it was a great idea and should be mass produced immediately.
You have very informative videos I too have been an auto tech for 26 years you can never get enough pro tips on repairs thanks for the good advice!
i just did mine,its an 07 89k and i had that hesitation under acceleration,bought the tool at napa for 80 bucks,what i did is had the engine warm up,took the coils out,spray every hole with PB blaster and used the 3/8 gun,none broke,they came out easy,took the tool back to napa for refund,but anyways great video,thanks a lot.
+abasolo63 Was it a bad plug causing the problem? or coil? My f150 is having the same issue right now
+Luca Bandinu it was a bad plug,i am pretty sure yours has the same problem as this is a common problem on this kind of engine
Okay thank you. Was your engine light ever on or flashing when it was misfiring? Mine has popped on once when it did it and flashed for a couple seconds but it no longer comes on when it happens
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+Luca Bandinu no,light came on like yours,then it went off,but it was not on when it happened.
I found the bad plug! Thank you for the responses, I appreciate it!!
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i too am a ford certified tech. i worked at the dealer for 5 years. i am now a diesel fleet ambulance mechanic. you've prolly heard about the 3/8 th inch impact being used to remove these plugs. ive done countless 3v tune ups this way and i havent had one break off. be sure to push down on the impact while you loosen them up.
Yes my other video in this series shows the removal with the impact like you said. I like it for this engine it seems to works.
Thanks for the help! 2006 Mustang GT with 30k miles. Figured I would pull the plugs hoping none would break with the low miles, but they have been in there for 9 years LOL. Anyways, 4 came out no problem, 4 broke. I borrowed this tool from a friend and watched your video to figure out how to use it. With the tool and your instructions the broken plugs came out just fine. Really pretty easy to use too. Thanks for the help!!
Excellent video!While pulling the coil pack off of one of the plugs, the coil seperated. I put the spring terminal back through and re-attached. Seams to run fine, and no trouble codes. Ford told me about $125 PER coil to replace here in Canada eh. Thats parts -no labour! Wow! I followed these drections, and it worked great on my 2007 Sport Trac 4.6! Thank you!
Sounds good to me!
you mean the coil separated from the spring and boot? They're supposed to come apart, I took all mine off and scraped off the corrosion, put some dielectric grease on each end of each spring, put them all back together, and put em back in. Solved my misfire at nearly no cost.
THANK YOU FOR AN EXCELLENT TUTORIAL FROM A FORD EXPERT! Now that I know what is involved....I will let my Ford Tech expert handle it.
I had one of eight break yesterday with the electrode broke off with the porcelin. I have to wait a few days for the tool to arrive but I hope it works like it did for you. Thanks for your videos, saved me thousands $$$
I started research this with intentions to buy 5.4 truck, this vid was great, reminded me so much of the last Ford I had, I'm not going to buy the truck with 101 thousand on it.
2002 4.6 v6 f150, I just did my spark plugs and wires, before cracking them loose I sprayed penetrating fluid on all of the plugs and I also was very careful before cracking the spark plugs loose. Thank God I didn't break any. I just bought this truck from my neighbor and it was my first time doing them
Kyle Feilmeier i think the ones with this plug issue are the 2004 to 2008 trucks with the 2 piece motorcrap plugs..i have a 2001 4.6 and had no problem getting them changed
I cannot thank you enough for making this video may God Bless you and yours
Hello I am currently having this problem my name is Bobby how are you
So I have this problem right now and the top of the spark plug is still there I have an oem Ford Triton broken spark plug porcelain and Electrode removal set will this work the same way as the other Lyle set I am nervous about doing this job but in the middle of it right as we speak
@@robertakendrick7424 Did you ever complete the job without any issues?
Same here thankyou so much for the instructional video. Out of 8 spark plugs only one broke and it was at the front of the engine. Overall it took about 3 1/2 hours.
this is the first bit of info i've seen that 1. clearly shows what the problem is, and 2. how the extractor tool works. not as scared now to do my original plugs on the ol' 08 mustang with 105k on her :) thank you!
Thanks for taking time to do a very nice and clear vid ... good work !
After seeing all the trouble the 5.4 3-valves are, I am glad I decided to buy an older 5.4 2-valve. Will just wait and get a new truck when I retire in a few years.
I'm a auto tech also. Worked for Ford 8 years and 16 years at small shops. Just did my spark plugs on my 05 Mustang and I broke cyld 1 and cyld 5. Used my Matco extract tool to get them out. Now the question from tech to tech. I heard that using a impact does a better job in removing these type plugs. Just want to know your professional opinion about that. Seems to be a over kill in getting these fragile spark plugs out. But they say the constant motion keeps them from breaking. How do you feel about that and have you ever used this technique? Thanks for a great video....
impact is a good technique...
with the engine hot though.
I use that technique with 18v 1/2 1400 matco impact long time ago in a local junkyard a lot of times..for sure this thing work!!
Yup. That technic it works just fine. Believe me..
Excellent video. I bought this kit for my 4.6L 3V - I was a little hesitant on the process but your video has made it crystal clear.
I own a Ford F150 2004 5.4 3V with 80k as well manage to take all 7 of them with out breaking just broke one in cylinder #1 panic at first but came across your video i needed to fix right away its my work truck so did not want to wait for shipping and looked at my local auto parts the only one that carried and had it in stock was NAPA in Orange County, CA. Pick it up $80 And worked well was able to extract the tip that got stuck inside was scared at first but gave it a try and worked well thanks alot highly recommend the Leisle tool. Thanks alot for video. FordTechMakuloco
Eduardo Hernandez No problem glad to help!!
Changed coils and plugs in my 2006 Ford F150 5.4L this weekend. Had one plug bust on me. Used this tool per your directions and it worked perfect...thanks.
Useful to see, mine has just left the bottom metal part of the plug on 1 cylinder, I was so careful taking them out, didn't even feel it breaking, felt just like the others. I've heard there's an updated plug for these that's one piece of metal?
This tool made short work of those broken spark plugs, dont even fret. Best tool I have ever used!
This worked like a charm!!!
Thank you so much for demonstrating it!!!
I changed mine a couple of months ago. Warmed up the engine for a few minutes then sprayed each plug with pb blaster and let it sit for about half an hour. I used a 3/8” socket wrench since I don’t have an impact wrench. 4 of the plugs broke and I initially used the extractor tool that they rent out at oreilley’s. It worked very poorly, and didn’t extract any of them. Bought the lisle tool and it worked really well. Make sure you have an air compressor to blow out any broken porcelain or metal shaving before extracting. It really sucked and I’m not really that knowledgeable when it comes to working on cars or trucks, but I’m glad I did it on my own instead of taking it to the dealership
First and foremost, Thank you for this amazing video! I have a 06 mustang GT ~130K miles, no idea when the plugs were last changed so I went into this expecting to break some. I took all precautions, PB Blaster overnight and a really gentle approach. I broke 5 of 8. 1 broke as expected in this video, 4 of them the nut and thread portion broke off leaving the porcelin and electrode fully intact. With the new version of the lisle tool I was able to get the porcelin out of 2 nice and clean. On the 2 remaining the electrode broke off and the porcelin is still fully intact. I am assuming that now I need to start smashing away at the porcelin to get it to the "normal" broken state. I know the electrode is broken really high up so that will be a project as well (hopefully I will be able to yank it out with pliers) but I wanted to ask here if anyone has encountered this or has any good ideas before I start smashing porcelin? Thanks!
hello did you use the 5.4 triton extraction kit? i have a 08 gt and am not see 4.6 extraction kits and was curious
Thanks for the great video. Just changed plugs in my 2007 5.4 F150. Got lucky. Only one plug broke. Cylinder 6. Lisle tool worked perfectly. It's a generation 4. The other plugs came out after soaking in Motorcraft solvent. Truck runs Great! Will take out on highway to make sure shudder at 45-50 miles an hour in overdrive has been eliminated.
Why am I covering my eyes every time you blow out debris out of the cylinder. Awesome video though bro! 👍
🤣 i squinted my eyes 🤣😂🤣😂
I'm extremely exited with this video and shouted 00:10:00 lol. Now I have same issue and I've ordered head gasket kit for removing cylinder head. I was blue with the necessity to work such a heavy article in back yard, but now I'm feelin' like in the clear blue summer sky. I just ordered same removal tool and can't wait to try it! Thank you very much!!!
this is the most stressful thing I have ever watched I hope I never have to do it
+Nathan Fitzer Some can be yes.
Nathan Fitzer Just don t buy FORD'S AND KEEP IT BASIC GM PRODUCTS CASE CLOSED NO NIGHT MARES AGAIN .
@@alfredquintero4421 I had a Chevy Venture that was a HUGE NIGHTMARE to try and change the plugs on. To get to the back plugs you had to remove the damn engine mounts and roll the engine forward. Then of course the plug wires tore to shit and needed to be replaced because god forbid you could reuse them. Don't think Chevy/GM is easy. those bastards are just as bad or even worse than Ford. Most of Ford parts are just bolt on/off without having to disassemble half the damn motor
@@alfredquintero4421 Chevys suck. Just stop. I would rather deal with Ford then government bailout GM. My buddy has a GMC vortex max, had the transfer case and transmission go out and it's under 80 thousand miles. Biggest pieces of crap you can buy.
Jorgeothejungle Sounds like your body does nt know how to drive a truck , and probaly why everyone see 's more Fords !! , NEW AND OLD FOUND DEAD ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD !! . JUST KEEPING IT REAL !!! .
Hell yea dude, this saved me SO much headache. All these years later and it's still helping people 👌👌
Thank you!!!! i bought an expedition, heard after the fact of this issue haven't changed them but just frozeee to what I was told about the plugs but seeing your video puts my mind at ease when the time comes just as long as I got the proper tools thanks!!!!!!!
This is by for the best instructional video for this ANYWHERE on the internet! Great explanation. Will I need to go buy deep sockets for this or will standard sockets work fine?
AWESOME!!!!! thanks a million brother! was already shittin it cause i have a triton with this exact problem ... called my Snap-on dealer and he had it in stock... saved me out a jam thanks to this vid!
Excellent video. But I find myself wondering why Ford didn't take a second to apply a little anti-seize on the plug when the engine was being assembled. Would have saved a lot of mechanics a lot of headaches down the road.
zooeyhall They will never do that on the line and at first they really didn't know it was an issue.
Haven’t tried the procedure yet, but confidence level is very high. A thought about porcelain chips. If you have a fairly nice shop vac, my thought is to adapt down to a hose that will fit down into the cylinder and suck out what you can first. In addition prior to even trying to extract the plugs, blow off the entire area first. No need to get debris into the well in the beginning. There’s also a procedure to use a large amount of carb cleaner before attempting removal. It worked on 6 out of the 8, and the two that broke were in the front of the engine as opposed to back against the fire wall. Very much worth the effort to possibly get a few easy to get to extractions as opposed to the nightmare ones. Ask any dentist.
Ford should have been sued for this
Just did the plugs in my 07 F150 5.4 today Let me tell you...what a nightmare it was! Plugs had about 65k on them and I ran 3 tanks of Techron gas treatment leading up to the change. (Which had ZERO effect). I started at 7am this morning and finished at 6pm. Only #2 came out in one piece the rest broke. I followed the TSB to the T. Thank god for the lisle tool and the extra extractor I bought since the first one lost its bite after 3 plugs. (Yes I used anti-seize on the threads). For now on 20k miles plugs are getting changed. Now I feel like I need a knee and back replacement...😁
+THETOPGLOCK About to tackle the plugs on our 07 Expedition. That anti seize coating sounds like a yearly maintenance job. Have no other car suv that has that. I guess ford changed the spark plugs after 08.
+Chuck Gerchow yeah Ford redesigned the head with a late 07 engine build date to a "normal " spark plug. Like I said 20-30k I'll be changing them again. Have you done a passenger side exhaust manifold yet? Another special nightmare of its own. Oh the phasers and timing components.....I did the timing set/phasers last weekend and actually I would do it again over a plug change any day. 3v 5.4 is a great engine if you have the ability to correct all the short comings yourself and save $$$. Sorry for the long reply
This channel has the very best information I've seen. Nothing beats a good video
This is making me extremely nervous to change my spark plugs
Dom's Car Reviews you should be lol
@Ken Elliott Dude. Shhh. With crush gasket, 1/2 to 2/3 turn after finger tight. Without crush gasket, 1/4 to 1/3 turn after finger tight. THESE SPARK PLUGS ARE IN A DEEP TUBE, you're not putting them in without a damned socket on em as well as an extension...Unless you got damned fingers like an anteaters tongue.
Joe Lewis he means get the threads started by hand with the extension don’t have it on the ratchet
@@bryandowling8524 yeah that's what i mean
@Ken Elliott also bro, on the '04-'08 triton 5.4l 3valve engine, THIS IS NORMAL, it's a poor design that Ford's acknowledged and fixed for late model 08-14 engines. IN FACT, this 04-08 design was meant to fix the 5.4 2v problem of too few threads and too thin head deck which caused the 2v to shoot plugs out of the head if thread's got damaged, and or late life 300k mi engines that have had 30 sets of plugs through them...!
Most saying this makes them scared to change there spark plugs, this just gave me more encouragement to change them tbh. Thank you for the video I will definitely follow your procedure!
This was more suspenseful than watching a horror movie.
What if you can’t get the threads to seat into the broken plug?
excellent video, you really due a greatservivcet o the repair community,watched your rear hub bearing vid, helped me out much thanks
You just saved me from having to take my ‘06 Mustang GT to the shop. The AutoZone kit wasn’t worth a shit, ordered this kit and in 5 minutes got the broken plug pulled and replaced. My baby runs like new
I have to say this was the best detailed video I've watched thanks a lot. And about the small pieces of porcelain going into the cylinder my worries were taken away with this video.
I'm about to change my plugs now I'm scared I guess I ordering this kid first
I tried doing it without it.. yeah. Needless to say I made a Napa run
Thanks for showing this. There was a lot more detail in this video than the other ones I saw. Did mines and broke three plugs. But that extractor tool worked great. I also bought the Champions Double Platinum sparkplugs. Now she runs great and no problems whatsoever.
Good to hear!
I'm a chevy guy just bought my first ford in 15 years what kind of shit is this what did I get myself into
I thought the same thing. I may swap it with a diesel manu transmission or LS the real thing. They got the design right but no the reliability
My mustang has over 150k with the original spark plugs... whoops.
I tried the seafoam and overnight soak method and I got 6 out without a break but two decided they wanted to cost me $100 for the tool.
Thank you for this video!!! The step by step instructions and camera angles are PERFECT! Fingers crossed they come out as well as the one in the video does!
O h they should the 4.6l 3v are never as hard as the 5.4l 3v. The tool is on amazon for like $65.
4 came out whole and 4 cracked. The tool worked perfectly along with your instructions. I would NOT have tightened them nearly enough if you didn't cite the cracking and awful sounds being a good thing in this case. Thanks again sir!
Good to hear
Excellent presentation !
About to go insane trying to figure out this extractor kit. After a nights rest, and finally finding a GOOD video on it, hopefully I can get these plugs out. Thank you!
I hear you listening to K love in the background
Off topic slightly but what video camera was used to tape this presentation? (Great video on this process though--thanks!)
Partsf150
I realize this post is old but I just took my plugs out (06 mustang GT) 2nd owner, never been changed. 4 broke, 2 each bank. Gonna buy the tool in the next couple days and give it a shot. I went ahead and installed comp motha thumpr cams while I was at it.lol...wish me luck.
How did it go?
Wow. I think I'll start pulling my plugs once a year and coat the threads with anti-seize.
The new redesigned plugs don't have this 3 piece build and won't separate. Stripped heads are still an issue however.
James Washer stripped heads are only an issue on the 2v versions, which were due the heads only having 2 or 3 threads. They were redesigned in 2003.5 with more threads just before ford went to the 3v in 2004.
Thanks for the video - went out, got the tool. Pulled out 4 of 8 busted sparks. Cheers - Paul from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
Old vid but where did u buy the tool?
Now do this 8 times.... you should be done by the end of the day.
Took me 2 hours to do 7 versus 2 days to pull heads.
The Lisle tool worked just as you described on the 1st plug. However, the threads were complete rounded off after just one plug. I need to do several and had to order additional extractor rods. I'm hoping it is not a one and done per plug, but I'm preparing for it. Update, I got the replacement extractor rods. One pulled the remaining plugs with no issues. I"m not sure why the first one failed after one plug pull. I would also suggest getting the porcelain puller because it was very difficult to pull the rear most plugs out.
that was a very instruction video, what a crappy ford spark plug design
Happened on my Chevy. Just saying.
Just this evening I got the P0301 code on my 07 F-150...Tomorrow I will change out the COP first on No.1 and if that doesn't do it I'll replace the injector...If that 's not the problem I'll just go ahead and order the Lisle 65600 along with a set of Motorcraft SP515's, some anti seize, and carb cleaner...Sounds like real fun!
The most nightmare spark plug designed by ford !!!!!!!!
Thanks a bunch for this video mate! Saved us a huge amount of trouble. We recently picked up a falcon ute with a 5.4L in it and went to change plugs only to find that 6 out of 8 were seized. After finding your videos online we actually had hope that this was saveable! We ordered the tool and followed your instructions and BAM! all 8 plugs successfully out. Cheers!
Ford, reinventing the wheel. They can't get spark plugs right? WOW!
Running like a champ so far! The plugs were shot! Started having problems at 70,000 miles and changed them at 82,000.
Mr223wssm Good to hear!
I love you videos by the way. You have helped me greatly maintaining my ford that is new to me. Just last week I flushed the power staring fluid, serviced the diff, and changing tran fluid going off your videos!
Thee most famous Ford 3valve spark plug extractor video, best video😏
Awesome video, thanks for posting. I've got the confidence now to replace the plugs on my 4.6 3v knowing that if I have a break I can remedy without calling in someone who's eager to take few hundred dollars from me. Your video's are great man, thank you.
Great detail on extraction! To the point with no enless rambling😁
Wish me luck!
Brian, it seems to me that if a plug breaks off, it would be prudent to remove the top portion, and spray solvent into the well and let it set before attempting extraction. This is, of course a DIY recommendation, where one has plenty of time. I would think that Seafoam or Berrymans B12 additive would really work well to dissolve that carbon. As I have said on other posts, I cut three longitudinal cuts in the threads of my lisle tool with my Dremel tool with a thin carbide wheel to help engagement of the extractor.
thanks for your video, helped me last night. got the tool from napa for $70, followed ur directions and bingo!! thanks.
On one hand, best to let carb cleaner sit overnight, as I did, but on the other hand, best to remove plugs when warm, those are opposites here in Minnesota! Removed front 6 plugs so far on V10 2005 6.8l with one breaking so far. Just watched vid as refresher to extract shell, and will do tonight. Saving four plugs under firewall as I get practice on front six. Man those back ones will be hard to get to with just about any tool, impact , or extractor or even my hand!
dan how did u get to the back ones? i got a broken plug on the right side far back. could bearly get swivel head plug remover in there to find a BROKEN plug already in there. not sure what to do from here
Good video. My neighbor was changing his and two out of 8 snaped off. After watching this I'm telling him to trade for a diesel.
Excellent how-to video. Clear, concise instructions and camera work. Thank you!
I save all your video's n take screen shots of everything that I should invest in to save me headaches for later
I like Kroil oil, squirt it around the spark plug in the head, and then tighten the spark pugs just a little and let sit for 5 minutes. This allows the oil to penetrate and Does not stress the threads of the spark plugs and it is turning the way it was last time, tight. I find this process works very well
Kroil oil works great at cleaning gun barrels and is an outstanding rust penetrate. Learned about Kroil while teaching High School metal shop.
Stephen Maurer it is the best penetrating lube also. It was made for the us government. also, ford atf works really well
Hooray my mechanice got number 8 how and when you see that man o man does it feel good. We used this video for a guide. We blew everything out then started the engine to make sure the rest came out all good from nj!
Can you spray penetrating oil down the hole before putting in the extractor?
You can but it would not help.
Getting ready to do the plugs on my 2010 f150. I hope I don't have to do this. Thanks for the video and many other of yours. You have saved me a ton of money with your helpful and well though out clear and to the point explications. Thanks a lot.
How did it go? I bought a 2010 a few months ago and have no clue when the plugs were changed if ever
@@taylorburton4565 went smoothly. Followed this method, used Kroil penitrating oil and did it while the engine was hot. Did one side then drove it around and then did the other side. I had no problem at all.
I definitely learned your procedure of how to extract using this tool. Doesn’t seems easy but I find it very useful and positive . Thank you so much hopefully it doesn’t happen to me so I’m opt to buy the season to mix with the gas tank to prepare for an easy solution to my problem
I hated this issue I had with my truck. Broke 3 back cylinders spark plugs. I couldn’t get it extracted at all! So I had to tow my truck to Ford and they actually gave me a discount to get them out and install the new plugs I had. $120 total
After I’ve changed the plugs twice every 40,000 miles. The new Ford plugs are not three piece and did not break. After I tried to e-3 spark plugs. Ran a little better so far
I have a 2006 f350 5.4 3v and i didnt break any plugs thank god!!! And the most difficult ones was cylinder 4 8 and 7 but i found the best ratchet to use was matcos low profile curved spark plug 88 tooth 3/8 ratchet
Changed mine today one broke but easy extraction, for 190 thousand miles on it the plugs were carbon free and looked like new...changed the coils while I was at it , the 2005 has another couple hundred thousand left in her...
Did you use an impact wrench to extract or a socket wrench?
I agree with ford maniac,3/8 impact on a warm motor works 99.9 % of the time,doesnt hurt to do an upper engine induction clean with sea foam, coats the problematic piece with lubricant and helps if your doing a full tune up. done at least a 100 my self,some are prone to break no matter what, and lyle tool is the best extractor
Yes I have to agree and that is what I show in my removal video. The lisle tool is great but the early ones the extractor is prone to breakage when extracting the broken off plug tip. The newest one I have is the 4th generation design as indicated by the stripes on the extractor and thus far has worked great no breakage.