Ken Zeier Then I can recomnend prof James Voelz (LCMS) "Biblical Hermeneutics This course is devoted to an investigation into the art of interpreting the canonical text of Scripture", see scholar.csl.edu/biblicalhermeneutics/ And prof Andrew-steinmann, issuesetc.org/guest/andrew-steinmann/page/3/ "Andrew E. Steinmann and 2 more Genesis: An Introduction and Commentary (Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries)", see www.amazon.com/Genesis-Introduction-Commentary-Testament-Commentaries/dp/0830842519/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=andrew+steinmann+genesis&qid=1602552817&sprefix=Andrew+stei&sr=8-1
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Amen my friend... God has already "interpreted His word so we don't have to... To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20 KJV
Heiser is not an evolutionist. But the texts can not go beyond the intent of the author. Often he takes us to the edges to show how the texts can be applied fairly without going into a personal choice. He’s the consummate scholar.
CJFCarlsson Ensign You need to think more carefully about the ancient writings. Imposing categories that are not knowable to the writer can never provide an accurate understanding.
@@bradbrown2199 That is a conclusion that is more consistent with no belief in divine inspiration. If the bible is relevant today it is because it did introduce categories that its writers would have no understanding of. My view is religious and also based on observation and comparing what can be arrived at from internal refernces in the biblical text compared to outside insights.
CJFCarlsson Ensign That is a faulty understanding of Divine Inspiration. The Bible was not written to us. However, it is written for us. You notion leaves a path for all sorts of false teaching and heresy.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Theologians hate that
There were 2 floods. Unlike the flood of Noah's time, at the 'katabole' G2602, there was "no man" left and "the cities thereof were broken down" Jeremiah 4:18-27 KJV. katabole G2602 was translated into English as "foundation" in Ephesians 1:4 KJV and Revelation 13:8 KJV. The "foundation", (which occurred when the earth 'became' void at the katabole, Genesis 1:2 KJV, since God did not make this earth void, Isaiah 45:18-19 KJV), was of this 2nd age where we all live in temporary flesh bodies and God fulfills His great plan through the high price paid through Jesus Christ to extend the invitation to salvation of the eternal soul. He asked that we all be born through the amniotic sac of water, (John 3:5-6 KJV), through a flesh woman, and be tested by satan, and He did this, perfectly, Himself, through Jesus Christ, Hebrews 2:14-18 KJV, Deuteronomy 18:15-19 KJV. satan and the fallen angels refused to be born through the amniotic sac of water through flesh women. God knew us all a very long time prior to the katabole that ended that first age of Genesis 1:1 KJV, where all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7 KJV. Some fought on God's side against satan's rebellion in that first age and therefore willed that God work HIS will through their flesh lives, prior to being born, Jeremiah 1:5 KJV. These are called the remnant/elect, such as Job, Joseph, and the prophets. God's will is in 2 Peter 3:9 KJV, Hosea 6:6 KJV.
That's a bunch of extra-biblical Jewish fables being pushed by the Murray's of Shepherd's Chapel. There is zero biblical support for this fanciful story and should never be taught or believed as biblical fact.
The Genesis account 1-11 l believe was first and is therefore the oldest historically and theologically. There is a simple reading or this, and that is the Flood account if Noah. Logically it stands to reason Noah and his sons wrote down these events for their posterity who come after them. This was a cultural more or tradition bin those times to pass these things to theirs sons and there memories of these events and account was excellent. There was a staff handed down to the son of the inheritance was also used to tell the history of these families to help keep them on track with true historical accounts. The first to go awry would be the descendants of Japheth and more importantly Hams defendants because if the evil he did towards his father which had a number of deferent aspects to it hidden in away within the text and the curse passed on to Cush and Nimrod. Their descendants who became the cannanite,amorites and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and the other cities of the plain are the earliest peoples who slid into Godless idolatry. The account of the descent of Adam, Seth and so on down to Noah and his family is also 100% accuracy in its details. Compare to the secular, national familial details of the various groups of people around the world? While they have great similarities, they also have great differences which point to the oldest and true account of of the first eleven chapters in keeping with the meaning of the word Genesis=origin. The other accounts never account for origins nor do they claim to or their veracity.The Bible does. Thus they are more propaganda to give creedence to the rulers of the time; Ham, Cush and Nimrod.
Ask a rabbi. As a Christian it isn't your place to reinterpret a 3,000 year old set of knowledge that still exists. Pastors can debate the new testament, but te Tanakh doesn't belong to Christianity no matter how much Christians insist that it does in their attempt to replace Jewish culture.
And protestant reject the catholic who hold that interpreting sripture needs the hierarchy for homogenius interpretation. There is a leader in every family ,the father. The father of the church of christ ie Cathlic or universal church is the bishop of Rome. Without a shepperd the sheep go astray. That is why there is so many dffwrent protestant ie christians groups now. Every one has there own interpretation.
no such thing as 'supernatural' because nothing happens that cannot be understood and explained as a being the result, or bi-product, of a completely natural process. and even if you witnessed the supernatural, firsthand, how would u ever KNOW that what you saw was indeed supernatural? there is just no way - just cause you cannot explain it, doesn't = "therefore God, + by which i mean the Christian God of the Bible" and if your entire understanding is based on something like a belief in the supernatural then you are undoubtedly misguided, and will therefore map your subjective interpretation, of the subject matter, to a whole host of biased output patterns in an effort to mold the narrative to support your unfounded theories.
The testaments will never be understood without first plugging in the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher. They're the "prequel". Every writer in the testaments refers us to these books. It's a warning to us from them. Matthew 24:37
You may throw it away. I own 8. My adult children have their own collections. We who study the bible appreciate it. You don't appreciate it. So what? Because you are a God hater we all should throw away our bibles? What do you do that I hate and would require you to throw away? Smoke cigarettes? Drink whiskey? Read Shakespeare?
I listened three times this is a great lecture he’s very good teacher he makes you think
Ken Zeier Then I can recomnend prof James Voelz (LCMS) "Biblical Hermeneutics
This course is devoted to an investigation into the art of interpreting the canonical text of Scripture", see scholar.csl.edu/biblicalhermeneutics/
And prof Andrew-steinmann, issuesetc.org/guest/andrew-steinmann/page/3/
"Andrew E. Steinmann and 2 more
Genesis: An Introduction and Commentary (Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries)", see www.amazon.com/Genesis-Introduction-Commentary-Testament-Commentaries/dp/0830842519/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=andrew+steinmann+genesis&qid=1602552817&sprefix=Andrew+stei&sr=8-1
Thank you for your exhaustive teaching of Old Testament theology and interpretation literally.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Amen my friend... God has already "interpreted His word so we don't have to... To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20 KJV
Interesting.
Best start out by changing the word god to its proper name of that god. Then use John 10:10 as the measuring stick.
Have you met Big Stinker?
Context, context, context. Including the ANE WORLDVIEW. See Micheal Heiser.
Nah. GOD is the context and a pinch of salt with Heiser. Fun guy knowledgeable but headstrong.
Heiser is not an evolutionist. But the texts can not go beyond the intent of the author. Often he takes us to the edges to show how the texts can be applied fairly without going into a personal choice. He’s the consummate scholar.
CJFCarlsson Ensign You need to think more carefully about the ancient writings. Imposing categories that are not knowable to the writer can never provide an accurate understanding.
@@bradbrown2199 That is a conclusion that is more consistent with no belief in divine inspiration. If the bible is relevant today it is because it did introduce categories that its writers would have no understanding of. My view is religious and also based on observation and comparing what can be arrived at from internal refernces in the biblical text compared to outside insights.
CJFCarlsson Ensign That is a faulty understanding of Divine Inspiration. The Bible was not written to us. However, it is written for us.
You notion leaves a path for all sorts of false teaching and heresy.
Best way? In the spirit. First the natural, then the spiritual. It is a shadow and a type. From genesis on.
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Theologians hate that
There were 2 floods. Unlike the flood of Noah's time, at the 'katabole' G2602, there was "no man" left and "the cities thereof were broken down" Jeremiah 4:18-27 KJV. katabole G2602 was translated into English as "foundation" in Ephesians 1:4 KJV and Revelation 13:8 KJV. The "foundation", (which occurred when the earth 'became' void at the katabole, Genesis 1:2 KJV, since God did not make this earth void, Isaiah 45:18-19 KJV), was of this 2nd age where we all live in temporary flesh bodies and God fulfills His great plan through the high price paid through Jesus Christ to extend the invitation to salvation of the eternal soul. He asked that we all be born through the amniotic sac of water, (John 3:5-6 KJV), through a flesh woman, and be tested by satan, and He did this, perfectly, Himself, through Jesus Christ, Hebrews 2:14-18 KJV, Deuteronomy 18:15-19 KJV. satan and the fallen angels refused to be born through the amniotic sac of water through flesh women. God knew us all a very long time prior to the katabole that ended that first age of Genesis 1:1 KJV, where all the sons of God shouted for joy, Job 38:7 KJV. Some fought on God's side against satan's rebellion in that first age and therefore willed that God work HIS will through their flesh lives, prior to being born, Jeremiah 1:5 KJV. These are called the remnant/elect, such as Job, Joseph, and the prophets. God's will is in 2 Peter 3:9 KJV, Hosea 6:6 KJV.
That's a bunch of extra-biblical Jewish fables being pushed by the Murray's of Shepherd's Chapel. There is zero biblical support for this fanciful story and should never be taught or believed as biblical fact.
The Genesis account 1-11 l believe was first and is therefore the oldest historically and theologically. There is a simple reading or this, and that is the Flood account if Noah. Logically it stands to reason Noah and his sons wrote down these events for their posterity who come after them. This was a cultural more or tradition bin those times to pass these things to theirs sons and there memories of these events and account was excellent. There was a staff handed down to the son of the inheritance was also used to tell the history of these families to help keep them on track with true historical accounts.
The first to go awry would be the descendants of Japheth and more importantly Hams defendants because if the evil he did towards his father which had a number of deferent aspects to it hidden in away within the text and the curse passed on to Cush and Nimrod. Their descendants who became the cannanite,amorites and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and the other cities of the plain are the earliest peoples who slid into Godless idolatry.
The account of the descent of Adam, Seth and so on down to Noah and his family is also 100% accuracy in its details. Compare to the secular, national familial details of the various groups of people around the world? While they have great similarities, they also have great differences which point to the oldest and true account of of the first eleven chapters in keeping with the meaning of the word Genesis=origin. The other accounts never account for origins nor do they claim to or their veracity.The Bible does. Thus they are more propaganda to give creedence to the rulers of the time; Ham, Cush and Nimrod.
Apart from perhaps Luke, all NT authors were Jewish.
Paul was a Benjamite.
@Moshe’s Corner• I don't know why you would call him ravenous. Are you saying he wasn't saved and shouldn't be trusted?
Heilsgeschichte is not holy history but redemptive history
Ask a rabbi. As a Christian it isn't your place to reinterpret a 3,000 year old set of knowledge that still exists. Pastors can debate the new testament, but te Tanakh doesn't belong to Christianity no matter how much Christians insist that it does in their attempt to replace Jewish culture.
And protestant reject the catholic who hold that interpreting sripture needs the hierarchy for homogenius interpretation. There is a leader in every family ,the father. The father of the church of christ ie Cathlic or universal church is the bishop of Rome.
Without a shepperd the sheep go astray. That is why there is so many dffwrent protestant ie christians groups now. Every one has there own interpretation.
Look closely at Michaelangelo's artwork, not christian at all, it's deistic and perverted.
@Moshe’s Corner• exactly
Statue ofDavid shows an uncircumcised male. Not Kosher.
Say God's name! It's disrespectful not to identity him. Psalm 83:18.
no such thing as 'supernatural' because nothing happens that cannot be understood and explained as a being the result, or bi-product, of a completely natural process. and even if you witnessed the supernatural, firsthand, how would u ever KNOW that what you saw was indeed supernatural? there is just no way - just cause you cannot explain it, doesn't = "therefore God, + by which i mean the Christian God of the Bible" and if your entire understanding is based on something like a belief in the supernatural then you are undoubtedly misguided, and will therefore map your subjective interpretation, of the subject matter, to a whole host of biased output patterns in an effort to mold the narrative to support your unfounded theories.
The testaments will never be understood without first plugging in the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher. They're the "prequel". Every writer in the testaments refers us to these books. It's a warning to us from them. Matthew 24:37
The best way is to listen to false prophets who think they know.
20 minutes in and hasn’t said anything, Lordy
glad someone else noticed that
It’s called an introduction...as he stated!
The best way to interpret that horrible book ,is to threw it away Be PROUD to be a PRIMEATE
You may throw it away. I own 8. My adult children have their own collections. We who study the bible appreciate it. You don't appreciate it. So what? Because you are a God hater we all should throw away our bibles? What do you do that I hate and would require you to throw away? Smoke cigarettes? Drink whiskey? Read Shakespeare?