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Yeah I just had a hard crash of starlink here in south texas 30 minutes ago.. Got any info.. my cell phone just states outage and they are working on it. Any info?
Let me tell you this, I have version 2 and up to 2 weeks ago, would get 174 mbs download speeds. Then there were 2 firmware updates. Now Dishy doesn't work AND the gen 2 only gets 40mbs. Starlink is F'ing with the speeds. I want to mount the dish on a 130 foot (topped) tree. To do that I was going to have to disable the motors. Now it seems the version 4 is manually pointable. This may be the answer for me. I have not seen a gen 4 yet, only a gen 3. So I need to look into this more. Gen 2 seems to be faster than gen 3. The main problem with gen 2 is that Starlink for dishes here on the west coast pointed them to the west. Now, I have lots of trees in the westerly direction. These trees are NOT on my land.
For my use as an RVer, the Gen 2 works just fine. Set it up, power it up, and within 20 minutes I'm watching JChristina, checking email, and social media.
I bought the refurbished & I'm pretty sure they sent me a brand new one. It's been great. It's been under a month, but there have been 2 bad storms. There was a hiccup during one of them, but it only lasted a few seconds. I haven't had to reposition or anything yet. The upload speed is a little rough, but it works fine. I've been pretty happy so far.
That answered my question. I will keep my v2 dish and put off upgrading to the v4. The power difference was my deciding factor, as I am boondocking a lot while I work remotely.
Another reason to upgrade to Gen 4 is the router supports Ethernet backhaul for your mesh. I was planning on setting up a mesh but with the added range of wifi 6 I ended up not needing it. I bought the refurb unit for 400 and sold my gen 2 to a friend for 300. Totally worth it!
Gen 1 here. Still works for what I need including streaming and running several devices simultaneously. It’s too difficult to get to in order just to replace for the sake of replacing it. I’d probably try T-Mobile instead of forking over the additional money for new Starlink equipment.
I wanted to say I really enjoy your programme. I live in the UK (on fibre optic) but have a Gen 2 at my place in France. We have only had Starlink a couple months and only get over every 2 months but it works. Cost at 35 euros (38 dollars) a month. A really good deal to purchase and run and easy to set up. We were waiting for fibre but it has taken to long with a possible 2 more years too wait. A good point on the one stop let the dish do the work. I don’t want to or need to climb up the side of the house to realign a dish. Your show is letting us know what Europe will have in the next 6 months. Keep up the good work.
Like you, I too had the first beta living in the Sierra of NorCal. Well, we had a rat infestation, they literally gnawed through my sat cable to the router, they killed it. I contacted Starlink, the only way to replace the cable was to buy a new dish, so I asked if I could buy one, she said I'll get back to you by end of day, but within an hour, I had a notification that a new one was on the way. By new, they sent me a complete replacement kit, router dish etc, no charge. Oh, before I used to see speeds of solid 30 to 60 Mbs down, 14 up, and I was fine with that, I could stream everything. Now, with the new system, I'm seeing steady 300+ down, 30 up. I love Starlink, no complaints here. And yes, I'm heavily forested, now I have c ell service as well now that we plugged in our account into Starlink.
I have a version 2, but want a version 4 (wifi 6) router. I don't like that I have to leave my old router in place to utilize it's power supply, I'd much rather use it as a mesh repeater instead of basically wasting it. It would be real nice if starlink made some kind of modification in their WiFi 6 router to accommodate all us Gen 2 customers.
Just got back from Moab, Utah in my RV where that gen 2 roof mounted dish got some of its best results ever. It’s top download speed was 371 Mb and believe it or not. It was uploading upwards of 41 Mb. I’ve never seen anything like that in central Colorado, where I live. Go Gen 2!!
I remember when I started out with cable and would get just 100mbs. Ever since then I keep hearing more speed more speed but I think constant connectivity is key. That’s my only issue. Based on my “obstructions” I receive interruptions every 1-2 mins. I remember you mentioning the dish pointing to the north. If I could get my V2 to point straight up I don’t think I would have many issues. Mind you if I knew about how latency worked years ago I could compare than now. Starlink and you have made it more understandable.
In northern California, I've had 5 Gen 2 Starlink Mesh Routers plus 1 Main Router working great, covering 2 houses plus 3 acres on the farm for 6 months now with wifi speeds around 10 Mbps and wired speeds around 170 Mbps. Dishy is 200 feet up a redwood tree, so I'm staying with the Gen 2 until it stops working. Tried a Gen 4 router and it wouldnt mesh with the Gen 2 system, so I returned the Gen 4 router.
The refurb discount was not made available to us even tho we ordered during the time frame others were offered it. We have been an RV system user perhaps that is why. Keeping the RV system and using the new dish at fixed location. Speeds on the new system are way better. Up to 250 where the RV best efforts version seldom goes above 100. Both are wildly inconsistent, but the lows do not drop as far. There are times the RV version has dropped to about what cellular based systems offer, 15-20 down. But the residential consistently beats cellular, never less than 30-50 down. Both are 1000% better than the DSL we had been stuck with for 2 decades. Yes, we are in the crack which many rural areas have fallen in. There is no broadband available even though Fibre does exist within a mile of us. We had talked to Comcast, which had cable 1/3 mile away, but they wanted $21,000 to run the wire, then backed out and said they needed $125,000. So, Starlink has come through when no other outfit would.
I recently ordered and promised 5-7 days shipping. They take your money and then change the ship dates to 3 weeks out before even shipping it. Bait and switch!
Thanks, love your info, spent enough on V2 and it’s up on my roof and I’ll only go there to replace it when it breaks. I don’t have the time, the will, the money to change. Notice the money came in last. I won’t keep up with the jones. It works and I can watch 4 k streaming.
I think the service fluctuates far too much to be able to quantify any real difference between the generation of dishes TBH. My all-time high on the Gen2 actuated (V3?) dish was 467mbit. I think the real upgrade would be in the included WiFi upgrade to Tri-Band AX which would provide a more appreciable update for users.
I'm in Australia (western Australia to be exact) I have the version two hard mounted to my 4X4 and while driving around in getting lows of 110 - 120mbs and highs of 400 - 600mbs down. From the V2 router that's boosted to 800mbs+
StarLink just replaced my V2 over a year out of warranty because of issues I have had. You get way more candy being nice than a jerk with technical support. I didn't think they would, but I thought why the hell not, otherwise it's Dremel time and I am not that good on surface mount chip repair and there would be no guarantee there anyway. Previously I tried so many things including new cables, wiring an external POE but to no avail. It was definitely some issue inside the dish itself. The replacement is definitely refurbished, but the performance was night and day and rock solid. Peak speeds for replacement after 2 weeks to far in Central Florida are 293.41 down and 26.77 up with 24ms hey!/whats? running in bypass mode with a D-Link DSR-250 Unified Services Router (with a RV Camper, Verizon based wireless plan for the occasional thunderstorm). This replacement dish and the continual upgrade of the StarLink constellation has made this more than an alternative to land based connection offerings. Except for my client who has Comcast with the 10G fiber network I put in for him where everything in the house gets over 1300. No reason to get jealous, whatever would I use that for if I am not hosting?
My Starlink Gen 4 is sitting in a box at the location it will be used it... For another month... I watch SpaceX put up new satellites every week with their self-landing rocket boosters. It's all very impressive and I believe, out of all of Musk's companies, SpaceX is doing the best work.
Whats the upgrade process? Order, plug in, add device in starlink app, unplug old device? Does mesh reconfig to new dish automatically? Or resetting and configuring all nodes?
I will stick with my version 2 Has been trouble free and more than enough speed for my families needs I did add a orbi mesh setup Starlink router is used for only for appliances that need internet
I have just bought the Starlink Kit Kick stand version, so I guess V4? I am just getting ready to activate it but waiting for a couple of accessories for my set up. Our use for the most part will be camping and saying that... Yep forests have trees... Thank God! But saying that in all that I am reading I am going to try to install it first on a PA Speaker Stand with the Dish flat... I figure in most RV parks they clear the sites fairly well an there is usually clear sky above... How much I don't know but probably some were on the site can be better and that is the reason for the Tripod set up. I may get and have a available a "Ladder" attachment with a small pole just to get it a little higher, but in the sites like National forests may have less open sky than private parks. Yes I considered the Mini but hopefully the larger dish may give me a little more window to the sky and a little better reception. I do not plan to stream movie and video apps, I carry 3 0r 400 movies and videos with us on a hard drive and with that I will have all the latest videos I can find. Would the Mini power be nice... Yea, but honestly I carry 2 Ecoflow River2 solar power units and portable gas generators.... then there is the full service parks we go to, there is power available... but in most cases weak cell coverage and lousy WIFI so, that is what I'll use the Sat Roam 50gb for and we usually go out for 3 or 4 days max., Flat mount on a car...not a big deal, our camp site are anywhere from 2 to 4 hour drives so, I don't see mobile mounting... but I'll have the kit in the trailer, IF I get stuck I can always pull it out and hook it up on the side of the road or parking area. So, that's our story and thought I'd share it..Our next trip is to the Smokey's and I am sure the campsite will be challenging.. wish us luck.
Here's an interesting bit of info to note! The Starlink User Terminal operates using phased-array antenna technology, which allows it to communicate with the satellites even when they are moving rapidly across the sky. The phased-array antenna consists of multiple small antennas that work together to form a single, directional beam.
I live in a remote location in Australia and Starlink is my only connection to TV, Media, data and VOIP phone so I test it regularly. It's interesting when looking at the max speeds.... I have Both a Gen 1 (Dishy) and a Gen 2 (Mr bevel) linked together through some Unify magic.... I Can test the dishes individually and I see the performance speeds that are identical between the two when tested within minutes of each other. But interestingly I have seen download speeds of 333Mbs down load from the Gen 1 Dishy. Admittedly its not often, but gives you an Idea of its capability. I wont be upgrading or changing my home network until I see constant performance increases that justify the cost and effort say in the rejoin of 100 + Mbs difference.
I will keep my V2. So far I’m getting 55-175 depending on the time of day. As I was watching this… Starlink went down. Good thing for my Peplink router switched me over to T-mobile 5G
LOL I recently purchased the latest version and yes i bought it to use while camping in our rv. We don’t dry camp so the power consumption issue isn’t a problem. Having a reliable Wi-Fi connection was paramount to me because as you probably already know campground Wi-Fi sucks. As far as set up goes I have ours on a telescoping flagpole I bought from Harbor Freight which I modified to accept the Starlink wall mount. Set up was a breeze and you’re right as far as alignment goes. I have the flagpole attached to our ladder on the rv so when I initially installed it I just rotated the antenna pointing sorta NNE and boom I was in business. Once I was up and running I checked the alignment and all I really needed to do was slightly rotate the antenna to fit it squarely inside the box on the Starlink app. I selected the roaming plan because we’ll only be using it when we’re camping and having the ability to pause service was a huge plus for us when we’re not camping. As far as download speeds I’ve seen almost 400 mbps early in the morning but on average it’s in the 175 to 250 range with upload consistently around 12 to 25 and latency around 25 ms. I’m setting pretty much right on the beach with no obstacles so maybe that has something to do with my higher speeds not sure all I know is we’re loving it so far.
What about the Gen2 Cable - can I use my existing cable with the new dish or router? I have a Gen2 dish and am looking to upgrade to the Gen4 dish and Gen3 Router, but my cable is run from my house then underground in conduit out to the middle of a pasture to get out of the trees. Running a new cable would be a real headache.
I'm looking into going with Starlink for our vacation. This should be great but for our property; I was wondering if I'm able to place it in bridge mode and use a UDM-Pro or something as my router. Is that possible?
On the shop starlink here in brussels (Belgium) we dont have access to a higher version of v2. Anyway, i'm using a Archer router wifi 6 with starlink router bypassed. No need of a new version in this case. The Archer router does what the next gen Starlink is doing, if I understood you. Looking up to power consumtion, the less is better. So next version is not a choice. About speed download and upload what I have is what I need. So no need for next gen. As you said, they will be more and more satelites, so my gen2 will keep on catching the connection anyway. Except if Starlink decides to push out the old dish for the new dish. Wich I hope will never happen. I dont wanna go on the rooth each to move my dish for any reason. Have a nice day, you and your family. Hi from Brussels.
I also have the TPlink AX6000 wifi 6 router, bypassing the Starlink router. Does that mean I don’t need the V4 & it would be the same? I’m getting pretty fast speeds & good latency.
Can the Gen 4 be extended past the longer 150 ft cable? I currently have a Gen#1 in 115' Douglas Fir. Because the cable was a standard POE RJ45, I could extend it 75 ft to the house. I will need to extend the Gen 4 cable a minimum of 25 ft. There's a whole lot of electronics in this beast and sooner or later it will need to be replaced.
@@jcristina I have installed a lot of v2 and v4 here in Puerto Rico and they work awesome. But I think it will depend on the location because I don’t see any difference between the 2 if you bypass the port.
Another great update. But how about those of us who are using a 12 V system with our own router? I assume the new generation for antenna is still powered over ethernet and has all the smart inside the antenna, correct? So what would be the consumption comparison between the two generations of just the antenna alone without the router?
Well this has been somewhat helpful for my wife & I, simply because right now our current internet service provider is basically ripping us off and has been for a hot little minute. We're currently only getting 1-6 Mbps down and a depressingly sad, put it to you guys this way. The upload speed was so slow it stopped checking it as I was typing this response here. So we're just attempting to get some decent speeds so we can start gaming together as a family. My 7 year old son, wife & I love gaming together but haven't been able to since the 2 storms hit us here in Florida. So any help or links you can share to help us out would be much appreciated a ton.
I don't understand anything in the video and I just purchased the newest kit directly from Starlink for $740. Is the router wall mountable and is there any cat6 jacks?
The Gen 4 is essentially a significantly larger phased array antenna, providing a much wider field of view because it has a significant increase in the number of elements to "electronically steer" the elements for optimum reception, so the dish can work without having to physically tilt to optimal angle. It also has increased heating for snow removal.
I have the new dish, performance has been great. Definitely notice less drops during rain. I've had it pointed the same direction since I got it back in December. It just updated today and wants me to adjust it. It was pointed N-NW, now it says to point it straight N. Guess I'm getting my ladder back out...lol Edit: well I was about to move it and now it says it's fine so idk, it's still offline, possibly outage maybe
Since they are getting rid of all the Gen 2, its still available at a limited time in tge UK for £150. My question is, will it still work in about 2 to 3 years to come. I don't need but I want to buy for future use.
Gen 4 is not built as well as Gen 2. My neighbor bought the Gen 4 and he got the same hail storm I got and his is dead mine is still working. Ping Pong size hail is hard on the new ones.
Using a V2 I got just over 9 MB/s as max but averaging about 8.5 MB/s while preinstalling Ghosts of Tsushima from Steam . I prefer to use my Steam download speeds because it's a real world case scenario. Besides that, I wanted the higher speeds of Starlink for gaming. PS When did some game patches, looking at you BG3, become as big as some games?
Star link offered to buy back my older generation model so we shipped it back to them months ago... Never got our payment and repeat contacts with star link all lead to dead ends or no response. We first received faulty equipment and took six months to get corrected and with this nonpayment I'm giving up on starlink. This channel was my go to for everything Star link and I thank you for your channel but I'm switching services. High hopes for Elon but there's more red flags than a Chinese parade
How can I hook my router to the StarLink router. I was told there wasn't a ethernet port on the router but only a WIFI port. Is thee a WIFI to ethernet adaptor? Does the U-D speed slow down when you do this? Tell me more.
This is off topic but have you received a Starlink email about Upcoming Billing Updates? I was wondering if the sentence that includes a statement about data overages has always been a part of their billing information? I hope this doesn’t come back.
Hello Sir. I love our videos and ou give pretty adequate infos on this tech. i want to start an internet service business. please which of the version will best suit my project. im a little bit confused. i just love the gen 2 because of its automatic alignment. please which should i go for?
Elon has quite the ambitious plan for the number of satellites he intends to deploy into orbit. With each rocket launch, a new and improved set of satellite equipment is unveiled. Once SpaceX 4 achieves its mission, brace yourself for the mind-boggling number of satellite lights on board SpaceX 5. And it doesn't end there - a whole new generation, the 5th one, will make its debut. Personally, I'm contemplating waiting until after the successful launch of SpaceX 6. What are your thoughts on this matter?
The "WHY" - Joe v4 upgrade with the external power supply, 2 ethernet ports, WiFi.6, better field of view, larger antenna with less rain fade, 4x4 Tri-Band WiFI. Post the signal strength for the new antenna ( diagnostics) We all are waiting for your review of the G4 compared to my G1
I own a rooftop condo in the Dominican Republic. I noticed in feb. on my roof , another building has a Starlink dish on it. I will be going back to DR in october. I have a plan how to install it. I do not know the price and plans in DR.
My version 2 has been installed on my roof for 2 years with almost no outages. I plan on using it until it either gets blown off the roof, or becomes obsolete. (I my own router). No reason to upgrade.
I think I am getting a gen 3 to replace my gen 2 so I can mount this gen 2 in a tree. I would have to disable the motors with the gen 2. Gen 3 will have no motors.
Building a new home in rural Kansas. Fingers-crossed completion in April 2025. Have choice of rural DSL 1/4 mile from the trunk line or satellite. Need good Internet access, some smart home Bluetooth/Wi-Fi coverage (3k SqFt), a wired/wireless in-house camera security NAS. Thoughts... Ideas... Suggestions... Recommendations... Thank you!
I don't think via-sat or HughesNet will go out of business I think they'll end up merging with starlink. Either way there's no way either of them can compete
It seems to me to be entirely possible that Tesla may well have some interesting times ahead of it financially. This is a hypothetical question. If Tesla and Elon Musk went down the tubes, what impact would that have on the Spacex Starlink product?
Elon Musk SpaceX Starlink Gen 4 Kit vs Starlink Gen 2. Real-world testing. Download Speed, Upload Speed, Latency, Usability, Power Consumption, and much more!
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Yeah I just had a hard crash of starlink here in south texas 30 minutes ago..
Got any info.. my cell phone just states outage and they are working on it.
Any info?
Let me tell you this, I have version 2 and up to 2 weeks ago, would get 174 mbs download speeds. Then there were 2 firmware updates. Now Dishy doesn't work AND the gen 2 only gets 40mbs. Starlink is F'ing with the speeds. I want to mount the dish on a 130 foot (topped) tree. To do that I was going to have to disable the motors. Now it seems the version 4 is manually pointable. This may be the answer for me. I have not seen a gen 4 yet, only a gen 3. So I need to look into this more. Gen 2 seems to be faster than gen 3. The main problem with gen 2 is that Starlink for dishes here on the west coast pointed them to the west. Now, I have lots of trees in the westerly direction. These trees are NOT on my land.
For my use as an RVer, the Gen 2 works just fine. Set it up, power it up, and within 20 minutes I'm watching JChristina, checking email, and social media.
As full time RVers, we'll stick with the V.2 until it wears out. Still works fine after a year or more.
I am still rocking the Gen1 dishy and going strong. Recently purchased a TP Link WiFi6 router and it's even better.
I bought the refurbished & I'm pretty sure they sent me a brand new one. It's been great. It's been under a month, but there have been 2 bad storms. There was a hiccup during one of them, but it only lasted a few seconds. I haven't had to reposition or anything yet. The upload speed is a little rough, but it works fine. I've been pretty happy so far.
My Gen 1 dish holds up to the northern Alberta winters. Which is a solid reason why I really enjoy it.
That answered my question. I will keep my v2 dish and put off upgrading to the v4. The power difference was my deciding factor, as I am boondocking a lot while I work remotely.
Power could be an issue.
Another reason to upgrade to Gen 4 is the router supports Ethernet backhaul for your mesh. I was planning on setting up a mesh but with the added range of wifi 6 I ended up not needing it. I bought the refurb unit for 400 and sold my gen 2 to a friend for 300. Totally worth it!
The Wi-Fi meshing at full 3 extra nodes is squirrely so wanting to switch router to new gen3 for the Ethernet backhaul.
Gen 1 here. Still works for what I need including streaming and running several devices simultaneously. It’s too difficult to get to in order just to replace for the sake of replacing it. I’d probably try T-Mobile instead of forking over the additional money for new Starlink equipment.
I still have V1 and it's doing good so far.
Awesome
Mine should be coming in Thursday I can't wait. I'm finally going to have good internet. Pretty excited
Nice!! Enjoy.
Way to much yak, yak, yak, and not enough factual help
Talk about a guy who loves the sound of his own voice. I have yet to complete one of his videos. My ears get tired.
@@patzkevery very hard to watch
Exactly
Horrible to watch.
@@vlividTV doesn't he know how bad he is?
I wanted to say I really enjoy your programme. I live in the UK (on fibre optic) but have a Gen 2 at my place in France. We have only had Starlink a couple months and only get over every 2 months but it works. Cost at 35 euros (38 dollars) a month. A really good deal to purchase and run and easy to set up. We were waiting for fibre but it has taken to long with a possible 2 more years too wait. A good point on the one stop let the dish do the work. I don’t want to or need to climb up the side of the house to realign a dish. Your show is letting us know what Europe will have in the next 6 months. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much.
Like you, I too had the first beta living in the Sierra of NorCal. Well, we had a rat infestation, they literally gnawed through my sat cable to the router, they killed it.
I contacted Starlink, the only way to replace the cable was to buy a new dish, so I asked if I could buy one, she said I'll get back to you by end of day, but within an hour, I had a notification that a new one was on the way.
By new, they sent me a complete replacement kit, router dish etc, no charge.
Oh, before I used to see speeds of solid 30 to 60 Mbs down, 14 up, and I was fine with that, I could stream everything.
Now, with the new system, I'm seeing steady 300+ down, 30 up.
I love Starlink, no complaints here. And yes, I'm heavily forested, now I have c ell service as well now that we plugged in our account into Starlink.
19 June 2024 . Gen 2 dish speedtest Ookla. Latency (idle/down/up) 21/24/19. Download 357 mbps - Upload 37 mbps. Cloudy sky no wind. Antenna 20 meter above ground level.
I have a version 2, but want a version 4 (wifi 6) router. I don't like that I have to leave my old router in place to utilize it's power supply, I'd much rather use it as a mesh repeater instead of basically wasting it. It would be real nice if starlink made some kind of modification in their WiFi 6 router to accommodate all us Gen 2 customers.
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Just got back from Moab, Utah in my RV where that gen 2 roof mounted dish got some of its best results ever. It’s top download speed was 371 Mb and believe it or not. It was uploading upwards of 41 Mb. I’ve never seen anything like that in central Colorado, where I live. Go Gen 2!!
Great to hear.
I remember when I started out with cable and would get just 100mbs. Ever since then I keep hearing more speed more speed but I think constant connectivity is key. That’s my only issue. Based on my “obstructions” I receive interruptions every 1-2 mins. I remember you mentioning the dish pointing to the north. If I could get my V2 to point straight up I don’t think I would have many issues. Mind you if I knew about how latency worked years ago I could compare than now. Starlink and you have made it more understandable.
In northern California, I've had 5 Gen 2 Starlink Mesh Routers plus 1 Main Router working great, covering 2 houses plus 3 acres on the farm for 6 months now with wifi speeds around 10 Mbps and wired speeds around 170 Mbps. Dishy is 200 feet up a redwood tree, so I'm staying with the Gen 2 until it stops working.
Tried a Gen 4 router and it wouldnt mesh with the Gen 2 system, so I returned the Gen 4 router.
Got the Gen4 refurbished and I get 350MB+ on average....Love it!
AWESOME!!!
FYI....I live in Maui and i don't think there are a lot of Starlink customers out there yet....
@@pissedoffpuppyyou Maui?
Mos likely Haiku or Hana side. Interweb land connection not so good ovah deh bruddah.
The refurb discount was not made available to us even tho we ordered during the time frame others were offered it. We have been an RV system user perhaps that is why. Keeping the RV system and using the new dish at fixed location. Speeds on the new system are way better. Up to 250 where the RV best efforts version seldom goes above 100. Both are wildly inconsistent, but the lows do not drop as far. There are times the RV version has dropped to about what cellular based systems offer, 15-20 down. But the residential consistently beats cellular, never less than 30-50 down. Both are 1000% better than the DSL we had been stuck with for 2 decades. Yes, we are in the crack which many rural areas have fallen in. There is no broadband available even though Fibre does exist within a mile of us. We had talked to Comcast, which had cable 1/3 mile away, but they wanted $21,000 to run the wire, then backed out and said they needed $125,000. So, Starlink has come through when no other outfit would.
I got more 600 + down and 50 up on the version 4 in australia
Wow!!!!!
Bring on the Mini unit! Anyone else have a 2m outage today? Dishy was searching for 2m1s for me before we were back online. Thanks for the videos. ❤
The longest outage I've had is 1 sec in the last 12 hr
Soon
@@WhoReallyCares917and a second full blown outage. Earlier I thought maybe they had a hiccup at the Denver POP. But this one is worse. 😢
@kamikazekunze yeah I just experienced a full crash over 30 minutes ago.. I dunno what's going on.. south Texas here
Yes just experienced an outage for about 15 minutes. We never have obstructions. But tonight tons of it. What's going on.
I recently ordered and promised 5-7 days shipping. They take your money and then change the ship dates to 3 weeks out before even shipping it. Bait and switch!
Thanks, love your info, spent enough on V2 and it’s up on my roof and I’ll only go there to replace it when it breaks. I don’t have the time, the will, the money to change. Notice the money came in last. I won’t keep up with the jones. It works and I can watch 4 k streaming.
That refurbished version has not given me a single issue. Definitely worth the price.
I want to stay with the motorized dish for when space war 1 starts to catch whatever satellites are not knocked out
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I think the service fluctuates far too much to be able to quantify any real difference between the generation of dishes TBH. My all-time high on the Gen2 actuated (V3?) dish was 467mbit. I think the real upgrade would be in the included WiFi upgrade to Tri-Band AX which would provide a more appreciable update for users.
Got 348mbps today in the UK, using bypass mode and a WiFi 6 TP link router
Sweet!!!!!
@@jcristina Try experimenting with a wifi 6 router with a gen 2 dish and see if the results change.
What dish do you have?
I'm in Australia (western Australia to be exact)
I have the version two hard mounted to my 4X4 and while driving around in getting lows of 110 - 120mbs and highs of 400 - 600mbs down. From the V2 router that's boosted to 800mbs+
Like a boss!🤙🏼
StarLink just replaced my V2 over a year out of warranty because of issues I have had. You get way more candy being nice than a jerk with technical support. I didn't think they would, but I thought why the hell not, otherwise it's Dremel time and I am not that good on surface mount chip repair and there would be no guarantee there anyway. Previously I tried so many things including new cables, wiring an external POE but to no avail. It was definitely some issue inside the dish itself. The replacement is definitely refurbished, but the performance was night and day and rock solid. Peak speeds for replacement after 2 weeks to far in Central Florida are 293.41 down and 26.77 up with 24ms hey!/whats? running in bypass mode with a D-Link DSR-250 Unified Services Router (with a RV Camper, Verizon based wireless plan for the occasional thunderstorm). This replacement dish and the continual upgrade of the StarLink constellation has made this more than an alternative to land based connection offerings. Except for my client who has Comcast with the 10G fiber network I put in for him where everything in the house gets over 1300. No reason to get jealous, whatever would I use that for if I am not hosting?
I would love that. Thanks for sharing g! Great speed in central Florida.
My Starlink Gen 4 is sitting in a box at the location it will be used it... For another month... I watch SpaceX put up new satellites every week with their self-landing rocket boosters. It's all very impressive and I believe, out of all of Musk's companies, SpaceX is doing the best work.
Whats the upgrade process?
Order, plug in, add device in starlink app, unplug old device? Does mesh reconfig to new dish automatically? Or resetting and configuring all nodes?
Not sure if there is one.
Starlink is selling their standard kit Gen3 at Basspro and Cabelas
I will stick with my version 2 Has been trouble free and more than enough speed for my families needs I did add a orbi mesh setup Starlink router is used for only for appliances that need internet
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Thanks! And more power..
Jose. Thank you for your kindness and support!! Many blessing.
Hi, thank you for your work. Am from kenya and starlink is the talk of the town now. Am planning to get mine soon.
I have just bought the Starlink Kit Kick stand version, so I guess V4? I am just getting ready to activate it but waiting for a couple of accessories for my set up. Our use for the most part will be camping and saying that... Yep forests have trees... Thank God! But saying that in all that I am reading I am going to try to install it first on a PA Speaker Stand with the Dish flat... I figure in most RV parks they clear the sites fairly well an there is usually clear sky above... How much I don't know but probably some were on the site can be better and that is the reason for the Tripod set up. I may get and have a available a "Ladder" attachment with a small pole just to get it a little higher, but in the sites like National forests may have less open sky than private parks. Yes I considered the Mini but hopefully the larger dish may give me a little more window to the sky and a little better reception. I do not plan to stream movie and video apps, I carry 3 0r 400 movies and videos with us on a hard drive and with that I will have all the latest videos I can find. Would the Mini power be nice... Yea, but honestly I carry 2 Ecoflow River2 solar power units and portable gas generators.... then there is the full service parks we go to, there is power available... but in most cases weak cell coverage and lousy WIFI so, that is what I'll use the Sat Roam 50gb for and we usually go out for 3 or 4 days max., Flat mount on a car...not a big deal, our camp site are anywhere from 2 to 4 hour drives so, I don't see mobile mounting... but I'll have the kit in the trailer, IF I get stuck I can always pull it out and hook it up on the side of the road or parking area.
So, that's our story and thought I'd share it..Our next trip is to the Smokey's and I am sure the campsite will be challenging.. wish us luck.
Here's an interesting bit of info to note! The Starlink User Terminal operates using phased-array antenna technology, which allows it to communicate with the satellites even when they are moving rapidly across the sky. The phased-array antenna consists of multiple small antennas that work together to form a single, directional beam.
I live in a remote location in Australia and Starlink is my only connection to TV, Media, data and VOIP phone so I test it regularly.
It's interesting when looking at the max speeds.... I have Both a Gen 1 (Dishy) and a Gen 2 (Mr bevel) linked together through some Unify magic.... I Can test the dishes individually and I see the performance speeds that are identical between the two when tested within minutes of each other. But interestingly I have seen download speeds of 333Mbs down load from the Gen 1 Dishy. Admittedly its not often, but gives you an Idea of its capability. I wont be upgrading or changing my home network until I see constant performance increases that justify the cost and effort say in the rejoin of 100 + Mbs difference.
Great speeds. Keep the Gen 1
I will keep my V2. So far I’m getting 55-175 depending on the time of day. As I was watching this… Starlink went down. Good thing for my Peplink router switched me over to T-mobile 5G
What screensaver are you using? looks cool
I am in a heavily wooded area and getting a clear signal is difficult. Will gen4 get me better overall performance?
I changed to starlink because the local cable went up to over $200 p/m and starlink is only $120 for equal service and not caps and overage fees
Gen4 router with a Gen 2 dish is what I would do right now
All u need is a WIFI 6 router with a gen 2 dish and u good. Just need a compatible device that uses wifi 6
Thanks!
Thanks so much for your kindness. Blessings.
I'd prefer to keep the old stuff at a lower monthly cost.
Good point.
Still using version 2. Unless having to go to version 4 when elon cranks it up for the phones also, probably just keep using what i have.
I'll summarize for you. We need a lan port to keep up on wifi tech.
No Dongle is preferred.
LOL I recently purchased the latest version and yes i bought it to use while camping in our rv. We don’t dry camp so the power consumption issue isn’t a problem. Having a reliable Wi-Fi connection was paramount to me because as you probably already know campground Wi-Fi sucks. As far as set up goes I have ours on a telescoping flagpole I bought from Harbor Freight which I modified to accept the Starlink wall mount. Set up was a breeze and you’re right as far as alignment goes. I have the flagpole attached to our ladder on the rv so when I initially installed it I just rotated the antenna pointing sorta NNE and boom I was in business. Once I was up and running I checked the alignment and all I really needed to do was slightly rotate the antenna to fit it squarely inside the box on the Starlink app. I selected the roaming plan because we’ll only be using it when we’re camping and having the ability to pause service was a huge plus for us when we’re not camping. As far as download speeds I’ve seen almost 400 mbps early in the morning but on average it’s in the 175 to 250 range with upload consistently around 12 to 25 and latency around 25 ms. I’m setting pretty much right on the beach with no obstacles so maybe that has something to do with my higher speeds not sure all I know is we’re loving it so far.
What about the Gen2 Cable - can I use my existing cable with the new dish or router? I have a Gen2 dish and am looking to upgrade to the Gen4 dish and Gen3 Router, but my cable is run from my house then underground in conduit out to the middle of a pasture to get out of the trees. Running a new cable would be a real headache.
I'm looking into going with Starlink for our vacation. This should be great but for our property; I was wondering if I'm able to place it in bridge mode and use a UDM-Pro or something as my router. Is that possible?
Will having more nodes lessen multiple device congestion?
On the shop starlink here in brussels (Belgium) we dont have access to a higher version of v2. Anyway, i'm using a Archer router wifi 6 with starlink router bypassed. No need of a new version in this case. The Archer router does what the next gen Starlink is doing, if I understood you. Looking up to power consumtion, the less is better. So next version is not a choice. About speed download and upload what I have is what I need. So no need for next gen. As you said, they will be more and more satelites, so my gen2 will keep on catching the connection anyway. Except if Starlink decides to push out the old dish for the new dish. Wich I hope will never happen. I dont wanna go on the rooth each to move my dish for any reason. Have a nice day, you and your family. Hi from Brussels.
I also have the TPlink AX6000 wifi 6 router, bypassing the Starlink router. Does that mean I don’t need the V4 & it would be the same? I’m getting pretty fast speeds & good latency.
I’m waiting for the mini version this will be a good addition to my home set up. Maybe I will be able to cut the cell phone bill.
For us RVers… seems the gen 2 motor is better for picking up satellites as you move around, no?
Can the Gen 4 be extended past the longer 150 ft cable? I currently have a Gen#1 in 115' Douglas Fir. Because the cable was a standard POE RJ45, I could extend it 75 ft to the house. I will need to extend the Gen 4 cable a minimum of 25 ft. There's a whole lot of electronics in this beast and sooner or later it will need to be replaced.
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Mark. That is very kind. Thank you so much for your support. It’s truly appreciated. Many blessings to you and your family!!!!
home depot has the new kit for 250 off right now i just ordered mine
4:04 Start of video.
Thank you so much!
J....I am also seeing 299 average 350 now and then and one time 389 down on version 2 in North Texas
Sweet
thanks for the info. you got a ne subs.
Do I need the speed. I watch RUclips and movies all work without lag. I'll stay with my version 2.
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235 simultaneous devices connected serves a cruise ship very well!
I have a gen two setup. Is it worth the cost $250 to purchase just the gen 3 router?
Personally I don’t think so. I would just get a third party router and bypass the Starlink router if you want WiFi 6
Thank you.
I Have starlink v2 bypassed with ethernet and using Eero.
Nice.
@@jcristina I have installed a lot of v2 and v4 here in Puerto Rico and they work awesome. But I think it will depend on the location because I don’t see any difference between the 2 if you bypass the port.
Another great update. But how about those of us who are using a 12 V system with our own router? I assume the new generation for antenna is still powered over ethernet and has all the smart inside the antenna, correct? So what would be the consumption comparison between the two generations of just the antenna alone without the router?
Well this has been somewhat helpful for my wife & I, simply because right now our current internet service provider is basically ripping us off and has been for a hot little minute. We're currently only getting 1-6 Mbps down and a depressingly sad, put it to you guys this way. The upload speed was so slow it stopped checking it as I was typing this response here. So we're just attempting to get some decent speeds so we can start gaming together as a family. My 7 year old son, wife & I love gaming together but haven't been able to since the 2 storms hit us here in Florida. So any help or links you can share to help us out would be much appreciated a ton.
I don't understand anything in the video and I just purchased the newest kit directly from Starlink for $740.
Is the router wall mountable and is there any cat6 jacks?
The Gen 4 is essentially a significantly larger phased array antenna, providing a much wider field of view because it has a significant increase in the number of elements to "electronically steer" the elements for optimum reception, so the dish can work without having to physically tilt to optimal angle. It also has increased heating for snow removal.
Im a new customer just got starlink last week. How do i know what dish i have?
I have the new dish, performance has been great. Definitely notice less drops during rain. I've had it pointed the same direction since I got it back in December. It just updated today and wants me to adjust it. It was pointed N-NW, now it says to point it straight N. Guess I'm getting my ladder back out...lol
Edit: well I was about to move it and now it says it's fine so idk, it's still offline, possibly outage maybe
Interesting.
Since they are getting rid of all the Gen 2, its still available at a limited time in tge UK for £150. My question is, will it still work in about 2 to 3 years to come. I don't need but I want to buy for future use.
Mine arrived the other day. How do we know which version we have?
The Gen 3 has a rubber cover on the back where you will find a reset button. The Gen 2 does not.
@@jcristina Do you mean "gen 4"? Am I confusing something here? Is the gen 4 released yet?
I just got the newest version. My only question is, whether I need a separate router to use the ethernet for my work computer?
Gen 4 is not built as well as Gen 2. My neighbor bought the Gen 4 and he got the same hail storm I got and his is dead mine is still working. Ping Pong size hail is hard on the new ones.
Using a V2 I got just over 9 MB/s as max but averaging about 8.5 MB/s while preinstalling Ghosts of Tsushima from Steam . I prefer to use my Steam download speeds because it's a real world case scenario. Besides that, I wanted the higher speeds of Starlink for gaming.
PS When did some game patches, looking at you BG3, become as big as some games?
Games are so huge now.
Hello is the extended warranty worth getting.
Nah. They stand by the product.
Star link offered to buy back my older generation model so we shipped it back to them months ago... Never got our payment and repeat contacts with star link all lead to dead ends or no response. We first received faulty equipment and took six months to get corrected and with this nonpayment I'm giving up on starlink. This channel was my go to for everything Star link and I thank you for your channel but I'm switching services. High hopes for Elon but there's more red flags than a Chinese parade
Gen4 can use on the boat or in ocean?
How can I hook my router to the StarLink router. I was told there wasn't a ethernet port on the router but only a WIFI port.
Is thee a WIFI to ethernet adaptor? Does the U-D speed slow down when you do this?
Tell me more.
Gen 2 would require a Ethernet adapter from SpaceX. Gen 3 Starlink router already have a built in ethernet port for you to plug into.
This is off topic but have you received a Starlink email about Upcoming Billing Updates? I was wondering if the sentence that includes a statement about data overages has always been a part of their billing information? I hope this doesn’t come back.
4:17 video actually starts
Hello Sir. I love our videos and ou give pretty adequate infos on this tech. i want to start an internet service business. please which of the version will best suit my project. im a little bit confused. i just love the gen 2 because of its automatic alignment. please which should i go for?
Elon has quite the ambitious plan for the number of satellites he intends to deploy into orbit. With each rocket launch, a new and improved set of satellite equipment is unveiled. Once SpaceX 4 achieves its mission, brace yourself for the mind-boggling number of satellite lights on board SpaceX 5. And it doesn't end there - a whole new generation, the 5th one, will make its debut. Personally, I'm contemplating waiting until after the successful launch of SpaceX 6. What are your thoughts on this matter?
The "WHY" - Joe v4 upgrade with the external power supply, 2 ethernet ports, WiFi.6, better field of view, larger antenna with less rain fade, 4x4 Tri-Band WiFI. Post the signal strength for the new antenna ( diagnostics)
We all are waiting for your review of the G4 compared to my G1
I own a rooftop condo in the Dominican Republic. I noticed in feb. on my roof , another building has a Starlink dish on it. I will be going back to DR in october. I have a plan how to install it. I do not know the price and plans in DR.
You’ll love it.
did you get the tile work done?????????
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My version 2 has been installed on my roof for 2 years with almost no outages. I plan on using it until it either gets blown off the roof, or becomes obsolete. (I my own router). No reason to upgrade.
Looking into purchasing Starlink. Why can I purchase a new Gen 4 in Arizona for $349, but where I live in N. Ohio, it is $599.
This might sound stupid, but I thought Gen 3 was the latest dish? Along with the Gen 3 router. What have I missed, Gen 3 is on the website too 🤷♂️
I was able to get down 450 with gen 2 3:00 am that is the highest I ever seen it? It’s only been twice now since I own it since 2021
Gen 1 with asus tuff bypass much better then gen 4 230 mps constantly
I think I am getting a gen 3 to replace my gen 2 so I can mount this gen 2 in a tree. I would have to disable the motors with the gen 2. Gen 3 will have no motors.
Im confused. As far as I am aware there is Gen 2 (V3) and Gen 3 (V4). Sure you mean Gen 4 and not Gen 3 V4???
Building a new home in rural Kansas. Fingers-crossed completion in April 2025. Have choice of rural DSL 1/4 mile from the trunk line or satellite. Need good Internet access, some smart home Bluetooth/Wi-Fi coverage (3k SqFt), a wired/wireless in-house camera security NAS. Thoughts... Ideas... Suggestions... Recommendations... Thank you!
No question. Starlink. DSL / Uverse is trash at this point.
If you have a smart house you can have that many devices on at a time
I don't think via-sat or HughesNet will go out of business I think they'll end up merging with starlink. Either way there's no way either of them can compete
why would star link merge with them?
Nah. The government will take them “buy them”. Starlink does not need or want their old tech. I promise.
@@jcristina lol....i know it and you know it......but some just don't get it!!⁰
It seems to me to be entirely possible that Tesla may well have some interesting times ahead of it financially. This is a hypothetical question. If Tesla and Elon Musk went down the tubes, what impact would that have on the Spacex Starlink product?