Yes and we can see today how easy it is to control masses of people whos opinion and world view comes from observation on what is popular and polically correct. It is very easy make it seem in media that something is very popular and accepted whit fake comment sections and methods that we dont know anything about. Health today is about staying inside, social distancing and taking spikes that seem to make people sick and die. It is funny that over night ukroids turned from ruskies to blue eyed freedom fighters.
@morstyrannis1951 I agree,but it was more than a small fraction,because they knew about the concentration camps they would be sent to if they didn't get along.
Ill try to post this one more time, and hopefully it won't be eaten by RUclips. 😉 At 15:09 when the POWs were being treated like that by those French women and men, they would be the same people who the Resistance took care of after Paris and the rest of France was liberated. There is even a famous video of some of them being shaved & shamed
Strange reaction by some of those French to the POWs.Either they were real collaborators or they had been paid . At least those men weren't prisoners for long and the collaborators got their just desserts!
French citizens behaved like most citizens around the world. Their Partisans, however, were on another level. They provided valuable intelligence and delayed the Wermacht reaction to the D-Day invasion. And yes, they dispensed justice to collaborators with extreme prejudice.
"The French population did not seem in any way pleased to see us arrive as a victorious army to liberate France. They had been quite content as they were and we were bringing war and desolation to their country. Sir Alan Brooke, British army chief of staff
One cannot generalize reactions of the french population. There are films from after August 1944 in Paris welcoming the allied troups. But also after landing in June44. Another thing was, I believe, the bombing and destruction of french cities before and after landing on a large scale.It is known the reason was to save their own lives.How many French citizens got killed by the bombings? Stop the wars, then we do not have all this problems! And don't think the western alliies were any better than the German soldiers who fought as well for their country! And, do not forget, the 2nd war was also the result of Versailles in 1919, planned by the British and French long before 1914!
Again, I love the added commentary to these videos. It really does help in understanding just what I am seeing on the films. The POW film at the end was amazing. Pretty sure that the civilians that were jeering and spitting on the prisoners were the same ones getting their head shaved or shot outright in August. Either that or they swear that they were staunch supporters of the resistance after the war.
Don't believe all the hype of the French welcoming the allied forces with open arms. My old foreman (RIP) told me when he landed on D day they eventually went on and moved forward to a village, and asked if the could have some food. They were not made welcome by the villager's, so he told me "so bugger it, we helped ourselves. "
I recall hearing a story about a German civilian who knew Germany was losing the war because each victory proclaimed by the German media on all fronts was getting closer and closer to Germany.
@@M1945 What I meant was, that the liberation was in-progress at the time, and parts of France had already been liberated. So the French people knew that it probably won't take long for the allies to take hold of the rest of France, yet those people were still very angry about their (ongoing) "liberation".
I always thought the French should have not received any of the German land to occupy, like the US, UK and the USSR. They were defeated and conquered. Only the US, GB and USSR showed grit, determination and bravery to defeat the Germans; certainly not the French.
Occupying German land after the war was really only a move to check Soviet influence. Other than feeling important the French gained nothing from the arrangement
And they decleared war on Germany so it was somehow polically correct? We live in a clown world any way. So if ww2 begun beacuse of Polland then how come it did not matter that soviets first took half of it and after polish contripution to ww2 on allied side they were left to stalin and evil was defided and world was safe. This same stupidity continues today.
My mother in law (born in 1938) told me about the difference between american and french occupation. Some civilians in her village were killed when the americans came. When the whole family next door died because they were hit by a genade the american officer replied: "Maybe you should thank your 'Führer' for this!" But she was a little girl and everybody treated her friendly. But the came the french and she was very affraid of them. They had to leave their house and live in a barn and the soldiers took away a lot of fourniture and stuff. The children were not allowed to play on the streets anymore. The french had suffered from german occupation, the amercans hadn't. But when france wanted to divide their occupation zone into more the twenty different states, the british and americans intervened. The wanted a strong West-germany for the cold war. I think it's a good lesson how to make a defeated nation love peace and democracy.. The allies and Western neighbors had every right to to let germany suffer for their comitted crimes but they didn't. My own parents were born after the war and my dad always said that already in the late 1960s they had everything they ever wanted. He and his parents have always been very thankful that his generation was the very first that was not supposed to fight in a war. His grandmother, who had lost three brothers, prayed for peace every single day. But as far as I can see, they never spoke about their own responsibility or the holocaust. They only said that it wasn't all right what "they" or "he" did to the jews, they never used the word "we" in this regard.
The Resistance took care of them. There is a famous video of women having their heads shaved, even made it into the movie "Fury". Plenty of French women ended up in front of a wall as well.
There were of course French nazis and such, but also those who had suffered from allied bombing or artillery. From their perspective, things might have been 'livable' under the Germans, and it was the allies who then brought destruction. Don't forget that every time US artillery flattened a French village, the German propaganda would make sure to rub it in. And just like today, not everybody is a critical thinker.
@@josephberrie9550 The prisoner videos are not from the Battle of the Bulge. By the time that started, France, Belgium and Luxembourg were already occupied by the allies. Most likely, they are from the battles in Normandy and Bretagne.
Excellent work as ever Frederick, love to learn new facts.i.e.the reduced efficacy of Ultra due to the changed communications inside Germany.Good to know I can also trust your comments to be factual and well researched.particularly liked the sound track to film of allied prisoners,suitably dark.
@DeutschesMilitärliedchanne-s1l Yes, I watched it on a big screen TV and it clearly is a Panther. Too bad... the King Tiger with the Porsche turret is gorgeous.
@@mdsf01the one at Bovington tank museum has a " Porsche" turret, one of the earliest produced. The "Henschel" turret looks to be a better fit I think because it's bigger (Neither turrets were actually made by Porsche or Henschel btw, they were both produced by Krupp)
The French in WW2 were cowards, they gave-up to the Germans almost without a fight in 1940, after which the (so called) French Resistance amounted to less than 1% of the population. No wonder they were spitting at and hitting the Allied POWs. Oh, and after WW2 the French and the Germans became best buddies - fancy that!
You’re not well read or informed and come across as a bigot. You’re repeating childish tropes about France that would easily be dispelled by reading a relevant book. Obviously France and Germany are at peace. But to suggest they’re “best buddies” shows your ignorance of history extends to current events, too. Unless you’re an elementary school child, your post is a shameful reflection on your maturity and education.
Great video. I find it interesting that the allied POW's marched through Paris were attacked by French civilians. The other fact is that their German guards appeared to be rather middle aged. Of course, by that time the germans were running seriously low on manpower.
Different version of history channel has numerous interviews with German soldiers, & the various branches (including SS) often talk about French suffering from Allied planes killing indiscriminately across France countryside (including fratricide of POWs). Also, French women experienced rapes & other crimes (notably from black soldiers from various Western Allied countries stationed nearby). The French were used to law & order under Germans, prior to "liberaton" . Also, the Germans were very strategic to avoid destroying historical architecture and harming French civilians (unless they were Partisans)
I had heard stories of the way the French gave American POW's a hard time, and after Germany withdrew, some of those same hard Nazi supporters suddenly took on disguises as 'underground fighters' and rounded up real underground fighters denouncing them as German collaborators
@@sreckopavlovic-tt3qoyou’re under the impression your country would behave any differently? If so, you don’t know much about human nature. There were collaborators in every occupied nation. German, Soviet, and Japanese occupiers all had organizations to encourage and enrich collaborators. The Germans had traitorous POW from Britain and the UK wearing German uniforms and spreading Nazi propaganda in POW camps.
I would want to see some validation, but the movies of prisoners walking through angry French citizens might be from after the raid on Dieppe, and not after Normandy. Germany did not have time for prisoner parades in 1944, but had plenty of time-and arrogant frenchmen--after Dieppe in '41.
@5:01 The picture of the troops shows them wearing WWI helmets, one can see the difference @7:25 the air-vent hole has no length of pipe on it; must have been stockpiled somewhere then issued to pro-German troops in Yugoslavia.
I don't think the French were coward. Why then the Briish Army fled Duenkirchen in June 1940? Why not fight until the bitter end, give hell to the Germans? Before the war in 1939 the French asked themselves "Mourrir pour Danzig"? And the war 1914-18 took place mainly in France, just 20 years ago! It did not hurt the British Island like France (and Germany etc.etc.).Only the Americans entering both wars was decisive in the West, while the Eastern part was done by the Red Army in WW2. Alone the British and French had no chance to defeat Germany and Austria.That is why they needed also Russia, which was defeated in 1917 by the German Empirial Army, allowing to send troups to the Western front, in contrast to 1941-1945. The lesson at least for Germans should be: Out of Nato, out f wars in other interests, good relations with Russia, which was torpedoed by our " friends and allies" after the wall fell. The problem of many Europeans seems to be that they still think they have lost the wars. We all have lost the wars and mainly the Angloamericans started the war against Russia on the back of Ukraine! Clever, because they have no skin in the game? No, sheer stupidity. Ukraine, and maybe we, will collaps, but not Russia! Just wait a while! Shameful for Germany that we participate in this dirty business of geostratic thinking!! Russia was no thraet to Poland, Finnland, Germany, USA etc.etc. By the way, it was Thatcher and Mitterand who where against German Re-Unification ("we beat them twice, no they are back" etc.). Stupid Germany's share and burden in the Cold War was 500.000 soldiers at the frontline right through divided Germany ( Churchill's proposal to Stalin 1943 in Teheran).In 1989/1990 "our friends in Europe" lifted their masks. Let's wait until this war in Eastern Europe ends. We will continue the willingly interrupted relations by the West between Russia and Germany.
Interesting to see German solders protecting American and British POW's from Parisian, and Paris was never bombed by the allies. Not quite the image usually shown of how Parisians thought of their liberators.
Wrong. París was bombed by the allies on several occasions during the war just to harass the Germans and French alies fue to their cooperation. Not downtown París, but several suburbs.
I'm sure that the guards were told to let the Parisians have their fun but not let it get out of control. Of course the situation was totally set up and meant to look exactly as you described it
@@M1945 On reflection , yes you are right it was for probergander purposes, but there was some support for the Germans in Paris at the time which has been forgotten.
The clip from Paris is a German film and as such it’s mostly for propaganda purposes. Clearly the arrival of the PoWs had been announced As can be seen by the amount of cameras. The fact they arrive in a special bus tells me it’s no ordinary Pow transportation. Also, they seemed specially selected as there are British and US Airborne mixed in with regular army. Speculation on my part but the crowd had most likely been specifically selected too.
Yes, of course it was used for propaganda purposes. Did you think that it was meant to look like a natural situation? There were plenty of fascist French and civilians that had lost loved ones during Allied bombing so planting people would probably not be necessary. Just tell the film crew to find and then follow angry civilians. The guards seemed not too bothered to keep the crowd away. Surely they were under orders to let them lash out, up to a certain point. It is very similar to how the Russians paraded the Germans through Moscow after the fall of Stalingrad. I'm not sure what your point is....
@@M1945 Not sure what my point is? Maybe you should read the comments a bit closer. Talk about missing the point of my comment. Your comment shows your lack of knowledge, German bias and the one sided nature of your replies.
A few months after the scenes were shot, Walter Model shot himself in a forest, not wanting to fall into the hands of the Americans, who had captured the Ruhr.
As I understand it, the substitution of Winter Soltice for Christmas celebrations was mostly Himmler's idea. Hitler allowed Himmler to proceed, but was exceedingly doubtful that the traditions of Christmas were in any real danger.
Right but I think to even consider such a change is a pretty clear indication that Germany was not going to be the defender of Western Civilization. The leadership saw itself more as the unconquerable pagan Germanic tribes that remained a thorn in the side of the Roman Empire for centuries.
I agree, but it's a little more complicated than that. Future Reich Minister Alfred Rosenberg explains why in his "The Myth of the Twentieth Century" (1930). The book is available from Amazon and possibly from The Barnes Review as well.
I always thought the French should have not received any of the German land to occupy, like the US, UK and the USSR. They were defeated and conquered. Only the US, GB and USSR showed grit, determination and bravery to defeat the Germans; certainly not the French.
The French have not changed. French military surplus rifles were a hot seller item at the end of WW11. The weapons were advertised as practically new since they were only fired once and dropped once. During the war they were incensed that their White Flag factory had been bombed by the Allies.
And many more were victims of the occupying forces. The allied Forces HAD to fight, they were forced to do so. The victims of allied fighting in France or elsewhere weren't their fault, Germany was the real blameworthy!
@@kubanskiloewe What is a lie? The around 75.000 deported and killed French Jews? The 212.000 killed military losses during WW2 (92.000 during the fighting in 1940)? Or the 282.000 civilians that died during the occupation KILLED by Germans? Yes, the allied bombing killed French people, around 68.000. BUT THOSE died because the German aggression too! Without the German war of aggression and the occupation they wouldn't have died!
@@papaaaaaaa2625 For 44 days of war in 1940 Population: 21 thousand civilians killed. 8 million refugees, including 1.5 million refugees from the Benelux and Jews from Poland and Germany. 1940-45 Civilian population: Killed: As a result of Allied bombing - 167 thousand As a result of Allied ground operations - 58 thousand Hostages shot by occupiers - 30 thousand Destroyed by punitive forces - 23 thousand Shot by partisans for collaborating with occupiers - 97 thousand Died in captivity in Germany - 51 thousand The Allies and the Resistance killed three times more French people in six months than the Germans did in five years of occupation of France. This is called liberation!
Yes the magnificent Germans, looting their way across Europe to accomplish racial genocide and propagate their Master Race. You might want to read a book or something.
Churchill, who declared war on Germany, but not Russia when they both took over Poland! was very disappointed when Russia was consuming all of Poland after the war!🤷🏻♂️
Yes, he always hated the Soviets, even when they were Allies. It's not that he didn't want to see the Soviet's defeated but rather that it literally would have been suicide to declare war on both Germany and the USSR when Poland was invaded.
Concentration camps (like Dachau) and death camps (like Auschwitz) are different. I believe that all the death camps, which were in the east, were no longer in operation in January of 45. Also, I've never heard that specifically black POWs were killed or sent to such camps
Maybe not, I have seen several RUclips videos of black US soldiers who were captured by the Germans in 1944, and surprisingly they said that they were treated better by the Germans and more respected then they were by there own side.
@@tonyfederici1961 It's a mistake to assume that National Socialist ideology had similar ideas about blacks as was common with American racism from the time. If anything, black US soldiers were generally thought of as a novelty.
@@M1945 I was not saying anything, I was just posting what some black American soldiers said after being taken prisoners in 1944 and how they were treated with more respect by the Germans then by there follow white GI’s.
Apparently some Frenchies were happy to live under German occupation the way they abused the allied prisoners. I wonder if their attitude changed when the Germans were beaten?
The last piece of the POWs is a bit odd. Its a mixed bag of Americans and either Btitish, Canadians and French. But where in France was it ? Vichy France perhaps ?
Wow, those French civilians mistreating Allied prisoners don't exactly fit the Le Resistance definition I was taught about in history class, clearly this authentic 1944 film footage must be fake 🤔
Not only collaborators would have had resentment towards Allied POWs. Allied bombing of factories in France did take place and there were civilian casualties. Family members of such victims could very well have had strong emotional feelings without having any fascist leanings
My grandpa is Italian. One of the first memory he had was running with his family to the shelter, trying to survive american bombs. Once the allied soldiers arrived, people poured piss and shit on the americans head from the balconies. This is far from what i was taught in class, and at this point italy had already signed the peace treaty
The Resistance was some Free French but mostly communists with weapons from them. Normal French weren’t eager to be Partisans because of the Severe Punishment.
@@flip849 You do know italy were part of the Axis don't you?...just because they decided they were on the losing side didn't take away from the fact that thousands of Italians had been wiped of the face of the earth!.... They, with the Germans, were the bad guys!!!!
Amazing footage. I sometimes wonder, what would have happened if the assasination attempt of Hitler by the Stauffenberg conspirators wouldn't have failed? Would the western allies had negotiated with a new german government? Well the Russians probably not, and as far as I know the conspirators intended to keep on fighting in the east, pretty sure because they were aware of the cruelty the German army (and the Soviets in return) had exercised there.Well, just another "what if?"...
It certainly is amazing footage that shows the complication of the situation. The procession was set up by the Germans to allow the civilians to vent. There were civilian victims from the Allied bombings....and after the liberation of Paris of course everyone claimed to be part of the resistance.
first time i ever have seen American and British forces paraded thru Paris. If everyone in this video only knew what was coming. hard to watch after so many gave their life . For them. Today France is occupied again. this time its the middle eastern Muslims. and our sacrifice as a nation seems forgot and unappreciated .
@@JohnSmith-ei2pz I know. Im keeping an eye on your country and city. .Whats going there is exactly the same here. this is an attempt to take over western civilization.
@@M1945 Definitely. That's part of WW2 history that rarely gets mentioned. Sometimes, I can't help but think that Germany got a super bad rap because they had to be painted with the super evil devil's own paintbrush because the Allies were targeting civilians and wiping entire cities off the map. (its a wonder that more civilians and camp prisoners didn't die considering the Allies basically destroyed food distribution ability when they destroyed the rail network. My father's family ended up in a camp because they were associated with the Partisans in Yugoslavia. He only survived initially thanks to the kitchen staff letting him eat the scrapings off the bottom of the big pans. He actually escaped the camp when he ran away from the Kindergarten and spent a couple of years running around Germany as a 6 to 8yr old, on his own or with various groups of refugees. At war's end, the Red Cross reunited the family, who had all miraculously survived, though his father passed not long after the war because his health was wrecked)
One must ask the question how was it possible for the German soldiers who were outnumbered in all aspects , who could hardly move during the day due to allied air superiority, to uphold morale and fight to the end?
Book was written decades ago calling them the most awesome war machine to have ever marched and I believe it's so true when compared to all the Zion controlled Govt's they fought and the time it took for capitulation. Overwhelmed more than defeated IMO.
That was staged. They placed Pro German French or forced ordinary French people to act like you see here. Just compare the crowd with the pictures of Paris getting freed.
@@M1945 schau mal Ugrainsk argony ,der Film der versucht wurde zu verbieten und frei geklagt wurde,weil zu viel Wahrheit drinnen vor kam.dort wurde der maidan,odessa,mh17 und der Krieg in der ostukraine schön erklärt.ja auch ich stehe auf ukrainischen Seite,aber nicht zur Ukrainischen Führung oder dem stellvertreterkrieg der USA gegen Russland
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Its just goes to show you how fast people change from hate go love.Civilians go with which ever way the wind blows.
Yes and we can see today how easy it is to control masses of people whos opinion and world view comes from observation on what is popular and polically correct. It is very easy make it seem in media that something is very popular and accepted whit fake comment sections and methods that we dont know anything about. Health today is about staying inside, social distancing and taking spikes that seem to make people sick and die. It is funny that over night ukroids turned from ruskies to blue eyed freedom fighters.
Only a small fraction were collaborators. The presence of Allied troops meant their time was coming to a close.
@morstyrannis1951 I agree,but it was more than a small fraction,because they knew about the concentration camps they would be sent to if they didn't get along.
Ill try to post this one more time, and hopefully it won't be eaten by RUclips. 😉
At 15:09 when the POWs were being treated like that by those French women and men, they would be the same people who the Resistance took care of after Paris and the rest of France was liberated. There is even a famous video of some of them being shaved & shamed
Yes, I have various film rolls of French women forced to lie in coffins having been shaved with swastikas painted on their faces - nasty stuff
Strange reaction by some of those French to the POWs.Either they were real collaborators or they had been paid .
At least those men weren't prisoners for long and the collaborators got their just desserts!
@@alanprior7650 15,000 POWs were liberated after the Falaise Gap was closed. 👍
French citizens behaved like most citizens around the world. Their Partisans, however, were on another level. They provided valuable intelligence and delayed the Wermacht reaction to the D-Day invasion. And yes, they dispensed justice to collaborators with extreme prejudice.
@@Sugarnaut well said
"The French population did not seem in any way pleased to see us arrive as a victorious army to liberate France. They had been quite content as they were and we were bringing war and desolation to their country.
Sir Alan Brooke, British army chief of staff
That's an interesting comment
When you look past the propaganda you actually become quite cynical
One cannot generalize reactions of the french population. There are films from after August 1944 in Paris welcoming the allied troups.
But also after landing in June44. Another thing was, I believe, the bombing and destruction of french cities before and after landing on a
large scale.It is known the reason was to save their own lives.How many French citizens got killed by the bombings?
Stop the wars, then we do not have all this problems! And don't think the western alliies were any better than the German soldiers
who fought as well for their country! And, do not forget, the 2nd war was also the result of Versailles in 1919, planned by the British
and French long before 1914!
Excellent video, as always. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Great vid!!!
Again, I love the added commentary to these videos. It really does help in understanding just what I am seeing on the films. The POW film at the end was amazing. Pretty sure that the civilians that were jeering and spitting on the prisoners were the same ones getting their head shaved or shot outright in August. Either that or they swear that they were staunch supporters of the resistance after the war.
Thanks great posting as usual.
Don't believe all the hype of the French welcoming the allied forces with open arms. My old foreman (RIP) told me when he landed on D day they eventually went on and moved forward to a village, and asked if the could have some food. They were not made welcome by the villager's, so he told me "so bugger it, we helped ourselves. "
I recall hearing a story about a German civilian who knew Germany was losing the war because each victory proclaimed by the German media on all fronts was getting closer and closer to Germany.
Extraordinary documents, and extraordinary the job of the war photographers and filmmakers.
Great Work ❤😊 Thanks Again ❤😊❤
Great film! Thanks for showin it! Have a blessed day!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks
Thank you very much Boris, much appreciated!
Interesting to see that there were so many French people who were more than unhappy with their "liberation" from the allies.
@@donr444 this was before that "liberation" that you speak of. By that time they were all supposed resistance members
@@M1945 What I meant was, that the liberation was in-progress at the time, and parts of France had already been liberated. So the French people knew that it probably won't take long for the allies to take hold of the rest of France, yet those people were still very angry about their (ongoing) "liberation".
Some real- reel truth being told/shown.
Those ones were collabos or paid for the UFA shooting. Pictures are not the truth.
@@donr444 that's hindsight
Thanks Frederick!
Oh, how those Parisians did change their tune.
This is staged propaganda.
I noticed this also: @14:09 The woman spit on the allied prisoners; no information if she was French, other nationality or just a collaborator?
another good video, you'll have to see if the time made a difference in the viewers (looks like 80 were watching)
Yes, you are right. Thing is I changed two things, the starting time and also the use of a post notification. I'll certainly continue with the posting
'The victories are getting closer and closer to home.' A joke by German civilians of the time.
The pilot at 5:26 looks like Stuka-Ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
My goodness I think you could be right! He looks a lot younger here than when he surrendered though?
I always thought the French should have not received any of the German land to occupy, like the US, UK and the USSR. They were defeated and conquered. Only the US, GB and USSR showed grit, determination and bravery to defeat the Germans; certainly not the French.
Occupying German land after the war was really only a move to check Soviet influence. Other than feeling important the French gained nothing from the arrangement
And they decleared war on Germany so it was somehow polically correct? We live in a clown world any way. So if ww2 begun beacuse of Polland then how come it did not matter that soviets first took half of it and after polish contripution to ww2 on allied side they were left to stalin and evil was defided and world was safe. This same stupidity continues today.
It was done for political reasons - to keep De Gaulle 'on side'.
My mother in law (born in 1938) told me about the difference between american and french occupation. Some civilians in her village were killed when the americans came. When the whole family next door died because they were hit by a genade the american officer replied: "Maybe you should thank your 'Führer' for this!" But she was a little girl and everybody treated her friendly. But the came the french and she was very affraid of them. They had to leave their house and live in a barn and the soldiers took away a lot of fourniture and stuff. The children were not allowed to play on the streets anymore. The french had suffered from german occupation, the amercans hadn't.
But when france wanted to divide their occupation zone into more the twenty different states, the british and americans intervened. The wanted a strong West-germany for the cold war.
I think it's a good lesson how to make a defeated nation love peace and democracy.. The allies and Western neighbors had every right to to let germany suffer for their comitted crimes but they didn't. My own parents were born after the war and my dad always said that already in the late 1960s they had everything they ever wanted. He and his parents have always been very thankful that his generation was the very first that was not supposed to fight in a war. His grandmother, who had lost three brothers, prayed for peace every single day. But as far as I can see, they never spoke about their own responsibility or the holocaust. They only said that it wasn't all right what "they" or "he" did to the jews, they never used the word "we" in this regard.
You have left out a long list of countries that fought Germany far longer and suffered far more than the USA did.
Gotta love those Frenchies meeting out "justice" on the Allied POWs. I wonder where they were when Paris was liberated?
BERLIN . . . Probably!!
The Resistance took care of them. There is a famous video of women having their heads shaved, even made it into the movie "Fury". Plenty of French women ended up in front of a wall as well.
Yeah the French fought valiantly for their freedom… starting about 10 minutes after they were liberated by the allies.
Allied bombings killed many innocent french civilians.
Another reason to hate the French.
5:22 Hans Ulrich Rudel on the telephone
Thanks, I hadn't noticed that
@@M1945My pleasure, thanks for the great footage
@@M1945 ...hmmm..... from other pictures....that doesn't look like him IMO......
@@TheWilferchit’s definitely him
His book was interesting, I enjoyed reading it .
Those women had their heads shaved and covered in tar and feathers. The guys were dealt with in more harsh ways.
Yes, but I wouldn't consider them lucky. Human nature at it's base is not a pleasant thing
Excellent. Thank you.
You bet!
Headline: "Well dressed women spit on their liberators"
they lived not bad under our occupation, all in all.
@@kubanskiloewe Ah, under "our" occupation.
Schon klar wessen Geistes Kind du bist...
@@kubanskiloewebollocks
Shocking reactions from the French civilians !
very
There were of course French nazis and such, but also those who had suffered from allied bombing or artillery.
From their perspective, things might have been 'livable' under the Germans, and it was the allies who then brought destruction.
Don't forget that every time US artillery flattened a French village, the German propaganda would make sure to rub it in. And just like today, not everybody is a critical thinker.
Yes the Americans who help spread international communism must be respected 🙄
the battle of the bulge was in Belgium...eejit... and its propaganda so its not real....got it
@@josephberrie9550 The prisoner videos are not from the Battle of the Bulge.
By the time that started, France, Belgium and Luxembourg were already occupied by the allies.
Most likely, they are from the battles in Normandy and Bretagne.
Excellent work as ever Frederick, love to learn new facts.i.e.the reduced efficacy of Ultra due to the changed communications inside Germany.Good to know I can also trust your comments to be factual and well researched.particularly liked the sound track to film of allied prisoners,suitably dark.
Thanks Eno
Ernst Rudel is in the Stuka clip.
Final Music - Steinkopf Waverley - featuring H. Berlioz !
The POW footage was fascinating.
9:02 is that a King Tiger with the Porsche designed turret? If so, super rare.
@DeutschesMilitärliedchanne-s1l Yes, I watched it on a big screen TV and it clearly is a Panther. Too bad... the King Tiger with the Porsche turret is gorgeous.
No Tiger 2s took part in the attack on Stoumont on 19 December.
@@mdsf01the one at Bovington tank museum has a " Porsche" turret, one of the earliest produced. The "Henschel" turret looks to be a better fit I think because it's bigger (Neither turrets were actually made by Porsche or Henschel btw, they were both produced by Krupp)
The French in WW2 were cowards, they gave-up to the Germans almost without a fight in 1940, after which the (so called) French Resistance amounted to less than 1% of the population.
No wonder they were spitting at and hitting the Allied POWs.
Oh, and after WW2 the French and the Germans became best buddies - fancy that!
French enough said, Britains enemies!
You’re not well read or informed and come across as a bigot. You’re repeating childish tropes about France that would easily be dispelled by reading a relevant book.
Obviously France and Germany are at peace. But to suggest they’re “best buddies” shows your ignorance of history extends to current events, too.
Unless you’re an elementary school child, your post is a shameful reflection on your maturity and education.
Great video. I find it interesting that the allied POW's marched through Paris were attacked by French civilians. The other fact is that their German guards appeared to be rather middle aged. Of course, by that time the germans were running seriously low on manpower.
Yeah the French fought valiantly for their freedom… starting about 10 minutes after they were liberated by the allies.
I bet those Parisiennes weren't so bold with shaved heads a short time later.
Different version of history channel has numerous interviews with German soldiers, & the various branches (including SS) often talk about French suffering from Allied planes killing indiscriminately across France countryside (including fratricide of POWs). Also, French women experienced rapes & other crimes (notably from black soldiers from various Western Allied countries stationed nearby). The French were used to law & order under Germans, prior to "liberaton" . Also, the Germans were very strategic to avoid destroying historical architecture and harming French civilians (unless they were Partisans)
@@bobjohnston9154 yes - and the Parisiennes waited until after the Germans left town before shaving women’s heads…. very courageous…
It was the allied bombing of towns and villages . Many thousands were killed .
I had heard stories of the way the French gave American POW's a hard time, and after Germany withdrew, some of those same hard Nazi supporters suddenly took on disguises as 'underground fighters' and rounded up real underground fighters denouncing them as German collaborators
Yes, human nature at its best
@@M1945The French at their best. 😂
@@sreckopavlovic-tt3qoyou’re under the impression your country would behave any differently? If so, you don’t know much about human nature.
There were collaborators in every occupied nation. German, Soviet, and Japanese occupiers all had organizations to encourage and enrich collaborators. The Germans had traitorous POW from Britain and the UK wearing German uniforms and spreading Nazi propaganda in POW camps.
I would want to see some validation, but the movies of prisoners walking through angry French citizens might be from after the raid on Dieppe, and not after Normandy. Germany did not have time for prisoner parades in 1944, but had plenty of time-and arrogant frenchmen--after Dieppe in '41.
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@5:01 The picture of the troops shows them wearing WWI helmets, one can see the difference @7:25 the air-vent hole has no length of pipe on it; must have been stockpiled somewhere then issued to pro-German troops in Yugoslavia.
The POW's appear to be of British origin by their uniforms.
They are a mixture of British, Canadian and American.
@@Edward1312might also include Poles and Free French. The images are pretty low resolution to know for sure.
I don't think the French were coward. Why then the Briish Army fled Duenkirchen in June 1940? Why not fight until the bitter end, give hell to the
Germans? Before the war in 1939 the French asked themselves "Mourrir pour Danzig"? And the war 1914-18 took place mainly in France, just
20 years ago! It did not hurt the British Island like France (and Germany etc.etc.).Only the Americans entering both wars was decisive in the West,
while the Eastern part was done by the Red Army in WW2.
Alone the British and French had no chance to defeat Germany and Austria.That is why they needed also Russia, which was defeated in 1917
by the German Empirial Army, allowing to send troups to the Western front, in contrast to 1941-1945.
The lesson at least for Germans should be: Out of Nato, out f wars in other interests, good relations with Russia, which was torpedoed
by our " friends and allies" after the wall fell. The problem of many Europeans seems to be that they still think they have lost the wars.
We all have lost the wars and mainly the Angloamericans started the war against Russia on the back of Ukraine! Clever, because they
have no skin in the game? No, sheer stupidity. Ukraine, and maybe we, will collaps, but not Russia! Just wait a while!
Shameful for Germany that we participate in this dirty business of geostratic thinking!! Russia was no thraet to Poland, Finnland,
Germany, USA etc.etc. By the way, it was Thatcher and Mitterand who where against German Re-Unification ("we beat them twice, no
they are back" etc.). Stupid Germany's share and burden in the Cold War was 500.000 soldiers at the frontline right through divided
Germany ( Churchill's proposal to Stalin 1943 in Teheran).In 1989/1990 "our friends in Europe" lifted their masks.
Let's wait until this war in Eastern Europe ends. We will continue the willingly interrupted relations by the West between Russia and
Germany.
Light over darkness- wow- that's cray cray!
I'd love to learn much more about this
Interesting to see German solders protecting American and British POW's from Parisian, and Paris was never bombed by the allies. Not quite the image usually shown of how Parisians thought of their liberators.
Wrong. París was bombed by the allies on several occasions during the war just to harass the Germans and French alies fue to their cooperation. Not downtown París, but several suburbs.
It’s a Nazi propaganda film. Do you imagine it reflects reality? You’re watching Nazi collaborators gathered specifically for this film.
I'm sure that the guards were told to let the Parisians have their fun but not let it get out of control. Of course the situation was totally set up and meant to look exactly as you described it
@@M1945 On reflection , yes you are right it was for probergander purposes, but there was some support for the Germans in Paris at the time which has been forgotten.
@@russellnixon9981 sure there was. There were plenty of facist French
The same French that joined 'La resistance' when they knew which way the war was turning, cowards
@M1945 SD und PH was Oberstgruppenführer, not OberstOBERgruppenführer.
Seems a lot of pows were paraded during ww2 by various apponents .what was the advantage
The clip from Paris is a German film and as such it’s mostly for propaganda purposes. Clearly the arrival of the PoWs had been announced As can be seen by the amount of cameras. The fact they arrive in a special bus tells me it’s no ordinary Pow transportation. Also, they seemed specially selected as there are British and US Airborne mixed in with regular army. Speculation on my part but the crowd had most likely been specifically selected too.
Yes, of course it was used for propaganda purposes. Did you think that it was meant to look like a natural situation? There were plenty of fascist French and civilians that had lost loved ones during Allied bombing so planting people would probably not be necessary. Just tell the film crew to find and then follow angry civilians. The guards seemed not too bothered to keep the crowd away. Surely they were under orders to let them lash out, up to a certain point. It is very similar to how the Russians paraded the Germans through Moscow after the fall of Stalingrad. I'm not sure what your point is....
@@M1945 Not sure what my point is? Maybe you should read the comments a bit closer. Talk about missing the point of my comment. Your comment shows your lack of knowledge, German bias and the one sided nature of your replies.
@@csh5414 there’s no shortage of revisionist history and Nazi fan boys on RUclips.
The french never liked them bunch of backstabbers .
A few months after the scenes were shot, Walter Model shot himself in a forest, not wanting to fall into the hands of the Americans, who had captured the Ruhr.
crazy stuff
awesome.......slow the intro down
Were Billly Pilgrim and Paul Lazaro in that POW march thru Paris?
I believe the Allies were able to identify a number of them once Paris was liberated.
As I understand it, the substitution of Winter Soltice for Christmas celebrations was mostly Himmler's idea. Hitler allowed Himmler to proceed, but was exceedingly doubtful that the traditions of Christmas were in any real danger.
Right but I think to even consider such a change is a pretty clear indication that Germany was not going to be the defender of Western Civilization. The leadership saw itself more as the unconquerable pagan Germanic tribes that remained a thorn in the side of the Roman Empire for centuries.
I agree, but it's a little more complicated than that. Future Reich Minister Alfred Rosenberg explains why in his "The Myth of the Twentieth Century" (1930). The book is available from Amazon and possibly from The Barnes Review as well.
The French believe in “Whoever is winning is our friend!” They surrendered to everyone they could during WWII…🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I always thought the French should have not received any of the German land to occupy, like the US, UK and the USSR. They were defeated and conquered. Only the US, GB and USSR showed grit, determination and bravery to defeat the Germans; certainly not the French.
@@Mark-yy2py Agreed!
The French have not changed. French military surplus rifles were a hot seller item at the end of WW11. The weapons were advertised as practically new since they were only fired once and dropped once. During the war they were incensed that their White Flag factory had been bombed by the Allies.
interesting
Hilarious
The french didnt seem to forgot what happend to their Fleet in north africa and their cities in normandy. Until the Wehrmacht withdraw…
Thousands of French men women and children were victims by brutal American and British air attacks on French cities and villages. 😢
And many more were victims of the occupying forces.
The allied Forces HAD to fight, they were forced to do so. The victims of allied fighting in France or elsewhere weren't their fault, Germany was the real blameworthy!
@@papaaaaaaa2625 that´s a lie
@@kubanskiloewe What is a lie?
The around 75.000 deported and killed French Jews?
The 212.000 killed military losses during WW2 (92.000 during the fighting in 1940)?
Or the 282.000 civilians that died during the occupation KILLED by Germans?
Yes, the allied bombing killed French people, around 68.000.
BUT THOSE died because the German aggression too!
Without the German war of aggression and the occupation they wouldn't have died!
@@kubanskiloewe .
1.5 million French slave labourers were repatriated at the end of the war, many others died from bad treatment.
@@papaaaaaaa2625 For 44 days of war in 1940
Population:
21 thousand civilians killed.
8 million refugees, including 1.5 million refugees from the Benelux and Jews from Poland and Germany.
1940-45
Civilian population:
Killed:
As a result of Allied bombing - 167 thousand
As a result of Allied ground operations - 58 thousand
Hostages shot by occupiers - 30 thousand
Destroyed by punitive forces - 23 thousand
Shot by partisans for collaborating with occupiers - 97 thousand
Died in captivity in Germany - 51 thousand
The Allies and the Resistance killed three times more French people in six months than the Germans did in five years of occupation of France. This is called liberation!
All those French collaborators. Yet to hear them talk they were all in the resistance!
The magnificent Germans
What's magnificent about being a loser?
Who lost. Germans, who magnificently used 15 million people from other countries as slaves.
Prisoners of German concentration camps and labor camps, certainly would not call the Germans magnificent.
@@kevinmcmullan1827 You would know!!
Yes the magnificent Germans, looting their way across Europe to accomplish racial genocide and propagate their Master Race. You might want to read a book or something.
Churchill, who declared war on Germany, but not Russia when they both took over Poland! was very disappointed when Russia was consuming all of Poland after the war!🤷🏻♂️
Yes, he always hated the Soviets, even when they were Allies. It's not that he didn't want to see the Soviet's defeated but rather that it literally would have been suicide to declare war on both Germany and the USSR when Poland was invaded.
The Black POWs in the Bulge clips, I fear these were the poor Black US Soldiers sent to concentration camps (death camps) not POW camps.
Concentration camps (like Dachau) and death camps (like Auschwitz) are different. I believe that all the death camps, which were in the east, were no longer in operation in January of 45. Also, I've never heard that specifically black POWs were killed or sent to such camps
Maybe not, I have seen several RUclips videos of black US soldiers who were captured by the Germans in 1944, and surprisingly they said that they were treated better by the Germans and more respected then they were by there own side.
@@tonyfederici1961 It's a mistake to assume that National Socialist ideology had similar ideas about blacks as was common with American racism from the time. If anything, black US soldiers were generally thought of as a novelty.
@@M1945 I was not saying anything, I was just posting what some black American soldiers said after being taken prisoners in 1944 and how they were treated with more respect by the Germans then by there follow white GI’s.
@@tonyfederici1961 yes, i have heard something like that too
Apparently some Frenchies were happy to live under German occupation the way they abused the allied prisoners. I wonder if their attitude changed when the Germans were beaten?
The last piece of the POWs is a bit odd. Its a mixed bag of Americans and either Btitish, Canadians and French. But where in France was it ? Vichy France perhaps ?
It was filmed in Paris. Also Vichy France had been occupied in Nov. of 1942 so there was no longer a "free France"
Wow, those French civilians mistreating Allied prisoners don't exactly fit the Le Resistance definition I was taught about in history class, clearly this authentic 1944 film footage must be fake 🤔
Not only collaborators would have had resentment towards Allied POWs. Allied bombing of factories in France did take place and there were civilian casualties. Family members of such victims could very well have had strong emotional feelings without having any fascist leanings
My grandpa is Italian. One of the first memory he had was running with his family to the shelter, trying to survive american bombs. Once the allied soldiers arrived, people poured piss and shit on the americans head from the balconies. This is far from what i was taught in class, and at this point italy had already signed the peace treaty
The Resistance was some Free French but mostly communists with weapons from them. Normal French weren’t eager to be Partisans because of the Severe Punishment.
@@flip849 You do know italy were part of the Axis don't you?...just because they decided they were on the losing side didn't take away from the fact that thousands of Italians had been wiped of the face of the earth!.... They, with the Germans, were the bad guys!!!!
Lots of orphans by this time.
Amazing footage. I sometimes wonder, what would have happened if the assasination attempt of Hitler by the Stauffenberg conspirators wouldn't have failed? Would the western allies had negotiated with a new german government? Well the Russians probably not, and as far as I know the conspirators intended to keep on fighting in the east, pretty sure because they were aware of the cruelty the German army (and the Soviets in return) had exercised there.Well, just another "what if?"...
Dirty French collaborators hitting Allied troops!
Don't be stupid; the french civilians were venting because allied bombings killed many innocent frenchmen.
It certainly is amazing footage that shows the complication of the situation. The procession was set up by the Germans to allow the civilians to vent. There were civilian victims from the Allied bombings....and after the liberation of Paris of course everyone claimed to be part of the resistance.
@@JohnSmith-un9jmAbsolutely. The allies brought death and destruction from the skies
The Allies were too nice to the French.
first time i ever have seen American and British forces paraded thru Paris. If everyone in this video only knew what was coming. hard to watch after so many gave their life . For them. Today France is occupied again. this time its the middle eastern Muslims. and our sacrifice as a nation seems forgot and unappreciated .
Londinistan is occupied as well!
@@JohnSmith-ei2pz I know. Im keeping an eye on your country and city. .Whats going there is exactly the same here. this is an attempt to take over western civilization.
Why was there so much belligerence towards those allied POWs by the local Parisians?
It was set up to be filmed and then used as propaganda. There were plenty of fascist French and people who'd lost loved ones to the bombings
@@M1945 Definitely. That's part of WW2 history that rarely gets mentioned. Sometimes, I can't help but think that Germany got a super bad rap because they had to be painted with the super evil devil's own paintbrush because the Allies were targeting civilians and wiping entire cities off the map. (its a wonder that more civilians and camp prisoners didn't die considering the Allies basically destroyed food distribution ability when they destroyed the rail network. My father's family ended up in a camp because they were associated with the Partisans in Yugoslavia. He only survived initially thanks to the kitchen staff letting him eat the scrapings off the bottom of the big pans. He actually escaped the camp when he ran away from the Kindergarten and spent a couple of years running around Germany as a 6 to 8yr old, on his own or with various groups of refugees. At war's end, the Red Cross reunited the family, who had all miraculously survived, though his father passed not long after the war because his health was wrecked)
@@VincentNajger1 That is a story of survival. Thanks for sharing it with me.
Karen of '44
Cant blame them their citys ,towns were bombed,10's of thousands people killed.
Never help the french again, in anything
One must ask the question how was it possible for the German soldiers who were outnumbered in all aspects , who could hardly move during the day due to allied air superiority, to uphold morale and fight to the end?
The war against the Soviet Union certainly wasn't fought in defense of Christianity
Book was written decades ago calling them the most awesome war machine to have ever marched and I believe it's so true when compared to all the Zion controlled Govt's they fought and the time it took for capitulation. Overwhelmed more than defeated IMO.
Interesting propaganda footage. Wonder if any of the French citizens abusing POWs in the footage were identified? And what happened to them?
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The Frogs have always been turncoats
If you are American you should know that French assistance gave us our victory over the British.
@@389383 Another unfounded arguement?
"Romani"? What are those? Romanians? Gypsies?
It's a politically correct term for gypsies
@@M1945 F*** political correctness! :)
@@pikckazinkavicius1235 i hear you but thats what the term means, nothing more, nothing less
@@M1945 I understand. It's just that this "political correctness" is so Commie - and the fact that it is forced onto us also reeks of Communism.
disappointing to see how the prisoners where treated by the Parisian's .
That was staged. They placed Pro German French or forced ordinary French people to act like you see here.
Just compare the crowd with the pictures of Paris getting freed.
Only a very few and the cameraman highlighted them.
Hardly surprising though.
It’s a propaganda film not a documentary. Every occupied nation had its share of traitors and collaborators.
Die Leute bei 12:30 min sehen aber anders aus,als die in den Amikriegsfilmem .
Klaro
포로영상 희귀하네
*V* otan not woe
지들 새끼만 귀하고 남의 새끼는 안귀했냐
They might have believed that
french up to their usual behaviour!
Whilhelm Monke @ 10.37
Love the 'fake news' banner.
Which banner is that?
Hehe die Grünen im fernsehen
Ja, meinst du?
@@M1945 hab ich nur vermutet,das sieht heute so aus mit ihrer Kriegshetze.
@@TWausEB Ich kann ja sagen dass ich eher auf der Ukrainische Seite stehe.... aber wer hat wen angegriffen?
@@M1945 die Frage lautet wer hat den Putsch und den Krieg angezettelt und wer hat 2014 sein eigenes Volk getötet. Der Krieg läuft seit 2014 nicht 2022
@@M1945 schau mal Ugrainsk argony ,der Film der versucht wurde zu verbieten und frei geklagt wurde,weil zu viel Wahrheit drinnen vor kam.dort wurde der maidan,odessa,mh17 und der Krieg in der ostukraine schön erklärt.ja auch ich stehe auf ukrainischen Seite,aber nicht zur Ukrainischen Führung oder dem stellvertreterkrieg der USA gegen Russland
Dietrich over rated and over promoted
The content is fantastic, but the commentary simply unacceptable
what rubbed you the wrong way regarding the commentary?
Commentary was fine to me.
Its all fun and games ... Until the Red Army shows up.