Great video! Been going down the rabbit hole with building a sauna. I have been. Looking into Hariva heater but didn't know how the knob set up worked. Great details about the timer as well.
Hi. The heater must be the right size for that space. The too big one makes you dry, the small one doesn't warm you up. You can adjust the heating TIME according to how you want it to be. Hot/dry or mild/moist.
The 6 kilowatt heater (kiuas) is the most common on home users. Sauna, kiuas, löyly, vihta/vasta, kauha, There is plenty words that cannot find in english. Except SAUNA!
We have a brand new Harvia 8kw sauna heater and it keeps tripping off as it heats up. We turn it on then leave to let it heat up. I checked it after 20 min to check the temperature and it had turned off by itself. It was not even hot at that time. It’s frustrating. Can anyone let me know what might be happening?
a very good idea would be to install a higher bench - the Finnish insist the feet should be above the heater. a lot of the best heat and vapour is escaping to the upper part of your sauna and remains unused. In this setting your feet almost stay cold
Great video thanks for making. Just installed an 8kw heater in an small outdoor barrel sauna. I have yet to try it out so I was wondering what the buttons were for and how long they take to heat up. Look forward to using it once I get an electrician to wire it up. Great job 👍
Thank you! I have an outdoor barrel sauna on my wish list. On my heater the button on the left is the temperature dial which I keep on the hottest setting. The one on the right is the timer/on switch that turns the heater on. It gets up to 170 degrees in about 40 minutes in my one person logan sauna. The timer is helpful because I can set it to turn on and be ready for me when I want to get in.
Great video. The sensor is inside the unit and tightly connected. Is this normal? Should it be taken out and installed on the wall? Instructions that cam with it are not very good.
For how many cubic foot was that heater rated? 4.5KW for such a small sauna seems overkill, 2.5KW should be sufficient. But maybe it heats up that sauna faster and then is turned off when a temperature is reached, and only turns for brief periods to maintain those 180F.
A sauna requires fresh air coming in under the heater. Dimensions depend on the heater and room size. In the opposite corner there should be a louvered vent 8 inches from the ceiling. A 12 x 8" vent is good. operate the louvers to allow room to heat faster, or open it if it is stuffy. In an attic you should connect a duct from the louvered vent to outside.
Harvia is the best when it comes to Sauna components. I have a 10KW and I purchased the WiFi panel so I can turn-on right from my iPhone I really love it and I’m gonna add the Harvia Autodose SASl1, so I can just press a button and it will release water automatically on the rocks. I am already getting amazing health benefits, and I’m sleeping better, and my testosterone has increased.
Sauna heaters need a lot of current. A tiny one is 220v@25A. Saunas must be wired directly a 220v breaker with special wire not easily found in retail shops. Local rules may be different, so a licensed electrician should be used.
Wait so I just bought this exact sauna after watching your videos. Of you know, you know when it comes to Saunas and you convinced me to pull the trigger. That being said for the electrical connection do you have to run that giant wire like that? I though they would just modifying the wall socket itself.
Hey man if you didn’t already run the line to answer your q you don’t have to run it directly in that way but you basically need a new 240v line ran.. as far as the outlet no.. you never switch any outlet in your home to 220/240 you go from the box to the unit.. u basically create a new line ok.. so don’t ever mess with already plugs in your home.. hope this helps
@@mikeham5465 Really appreciate the response Mike. I think I understand better now. Is it possible to run that type of wire through the walls/ceiling? And is it complicated? I'll be putting it in my finished basement about 9 ft away from the electrical box and the ceiling has recessed lighting. So hoping it's possible to fish the wire to the other room where the sauna is.
@@theshimmertrap5825 well it’s always more difficult to run wire inside walls because you have to fish it through.. this will most likely be an exterior line approach.. they have nicer stuff out there than what he used I use the medal corrugated whe running lines outdoor or u CJ’s also run it through pvc pipe how he did it.. but yea man I strongly suggest you not cut holes in walls trying to fish do everything surface mount
Hey if you have Facebook I can Facebook call u and show u how it goes on diy I’ll show u how I did my room.. I’m free for the next hour or so let me know
Hi Ryan, thanks for this info!! I have a couple of questions. We are not getting it to heat up beyond 150 --with lots of water to get it up there. We have this same heater in a small sauna. 1) any tips on rock placement? 2) do you know how to get the metal grate off of the top of the heater safely to help arrange the rocks? 3) any other tips?
Thx for the review. Ive used these heater in a couple rentals and my only complain with them is that it always took at least an hour to heat up (Winter conditions outside) but the timer only lasts an hour. Do they have a model that offers longer on time?
Excellent video! I'm trying to size a heater for my sauna right now and I'm concerned about under sizing it or possibly having to wait a long time for it to heat up. What were the interior dimensions of your sauna?
Made in Finland is a guarantee of quality! Electric stove models that have been tested billions of times are safe. (Some jerks, Duudsons, heat the lake with it, not you)!
This is the Logan indoor sauna. This is the direct link: almostheaven.com/collections/all/products/logan-1-person-indoor-sauna Thanks for watching and commenting!
Interesting, you stated that this was the smallest which isnt. There are 2 smaller heaters than yours, after the compact one. I read in H website every Kw is a cubic feet so your setup is overkill. The question is would the smaller heaters reach your temprature?
It’s not a real sauna if you can’t throw water! Harvia is made in Finland and they know you NEED to throw water on the rocks. That’s the best electric heater you can get! I am from Finland born in Tampere.
If I keep the door sauna closed I don't notice too much of a change in the basement. Sometimes after I sauna I will purposely leave the door open and in that case the basement does heat up by around 5 degrees.
Water won't hurt the heater, but can cause accelerated wear on the heating elements from corrosion, and the rocks will wear faster. As the rocks grind against each other they break down. You will find grit on the floor under the heater. About every five years I get a box of the correct stones from Harvia.
This video has incorrect instructions for turning on the heater. The first click turns the heater on for immediate use. The second clicks turn the heater back off but puts you in the "delayed timer" area..(1= 1 hour, 2= 2 hours, 3= 3 hours, etc.)....this programs the heater to turn on later so it will already be hot when you want to go in. If you want to use right away, you do NOT want 2 clicks.
The instructions in the video are correct. Turning it one click does not turn the heater on. To turn it on immediately it is 3 total clicks, two clicks clockwise then turning it back counter clockwise until it clicks.
I have an existing 3ft x 3ft x 7ft wooden shed/coffin.. any thoughts how you could heat it to get the 160F-180F? Due to the higher operating costs of electricity, I'd prefer gas.. Unfortunately, even if I had adequate venting, the gas (direct-vent) heaters I've seen are usually meant for large spaces, not small 63 cu.ft spaces, so not sure if it could be made to work. I did find small (RV) propane furnaces that can deliver 9500 BTU/hr (ex. $800 Propex 2800), however, I'm concerned that it won't be able to push too much hot air before the negative flue/backpressure causes the furnace to overheat/shut-off. If electric is the only way to go for this space, do you know of any that might fit? Or would the heater sit outside and somehow the heat transferred to the inside?
Ben Nguyen I’m not sure but I think electric or wood burning is the way you want to go. I’d also suggest looking into infrared heaters which are more space efficient.
For such a tiny sauna only electric, 2KW should be sufficient. It will consume 2KW only when it warms up, when gets to the set temperature it will turn on and off to maintain the temperature, and on average it will be on maybe 50% of the time or less, so it will consume 2KW during firs hour, after that it will be 1KW/h per hour, depending on ambient temperature and how often doors are opened, and how ventilated it is. Never heard of gas heaters for saunas, smallest woodburning stoves have higher power and are designed for larger saunas 5ft x 7ft x 7ft or so, and can not be regulated as precise as electric heaters. Make sure that sauna has good insulation including insulated doors (maybe small window) glass doors and walls loose a lot of heat. Wood floor instead compared to concrete, has less heat loss. (5 to 10 cm rockwool, reflective water vapor insulation , so that insulation stays dry and maybe insulated doors as well). Of course dont forget about some ventilation, so it is easy to breathe.
@@GritzNGravy-rv6cw yes that included the heater. I know costs have gone up significantly across the board. I see the cost is now $3,200 on their website.
Finnish tradition is to slap your skin with a bundle birch leaves, then put a ladle of water on the rocks and feel the moist air on your skin and lungs. A few drops of eucalyptus oil in the ladle of water smells nice and clears any nasal congestion.
I learned from the Fins that water-throwing is essential in a sauna. We have been fooled by the "dry sauna" nonsense for too long. Thank you Ryan.
Thank you so much I was reading the book that made no sense at all and you just made it so simple… Thank you
Great video, thanks for clearing up the right switch
we opted for the bigger one for our extra wide barrel it's amazing. !
Great video! Been going down the rabbit hole with building a sauna. I have been. Looking into Hariva heater but didn't know how the knob set up worked. Great details about the timer as well.
Hi. The heater must be the right size for that space. The too big one makes you dry, the small one doesn't warm you up. You can adjust the heating TIME according to how you want it to be. Hot/dry or mild/moist.
The 6 kilowatt heater (kiuas) is the most common on home users. Sauna, kiuas, löyly, vihta/vasta, kauha, There is plenty words that cannot find in english. Except SAUNA!
Thanks so much for making this video
Thank you for detailed information
Thanks for sharing this info! You can also add a few drops of eucalyptus oil or other oils to the Water for a great experience!
We have a brand new Harvia 8kw sauna heater and it keeps tripping off as it heats up. We turn it on then leave to let it heat up. I checked it after 20 min to check the temperature and it had turned off by itself. It was not even hot at that time. It’s frustrating. Can anyone let me know what might be happening?
The house i just bought has a nice big yard sauna but i have no idea how to operate it.
a very good idea would be to install a higher bench - the Finnish insist the feet should be above the heater. a lot of the best heat and vapour is escaping to the upper part of your sauna and remains unused. In this setting your feet almost stay cold
I installed my own today!!! I’m actually inside my sauna as I write this comment
Great video thanks for making. Just installed an 8kw heater in an small outdoor barrel sauna. I have yet to try it out so I was wondering what the buttons were for and how long they take to heat up. Look forward to using it once I get an electrician to wire it up. Great job 👍
Thank you! I have an outdoor barrel sauna on my wish list. On my heater the button on the left is the temperature dial which I keep on the hottest setting. The one on the right is the timer/on switch that turns the heater on. It gets up to 170 degrees in about 40 minutes in my one person logan sauna. The timer is helpful because I can set it to turn on and be ready for me when I want to get in.
Great video. The sensor is inside the unit and tightly connected. Is this normal? Should it be taken out and installed on the wall? Instructions that cam with it are not very good.
Does anyone know where the reset button is? The sticker says it is underneath but there is no button to be found...! Please help. Thank you!
The breaker is inside the control panel. It is a red button. You stick your finger in the hole in the bottom cover. Look with a mirror.
How much water can you add in a session?
For how many cubic foot was that heater rated? 4.5KW for such a small sauna seems overkill, 2.5KW should be sufficient. But maybe it heats up that sauna faster and then is turned off when a temperature is reached, and only turns for brief periods to maintain those 180F.
What about ventilation? Because i want to put a sauna on my attic. But there is no window.
A sauna requires fresh air coming in under the heater. Dimensions depend on the heater and room size. In the opposite corner there should be a louvered vent 8 inches from the ceiling. A 12 x 8" vent is good. operate the louvers to allow room to heat faster, or open it if it is stuffy. In an attic you should connect a duct from the louvered vent to outside.
Harvia heaters are 🔥🔥
Have you used any additional insulation material for the ceiling to bring the temperature higher?
Harvia is the best when it comes to Sauna components. I have a 10KW and I purchased the WiFi panel so I can turn-on right from my iPhone I really love it and I’m gonna add the Harvia Autodose SASl1, so I can just press a button and it will release water automatically on the rocks. I am already getting amazing health benefits, and I’m sleeping better, and my testosterone has increased.
How hot will it get. Max?
probably about 100C maximum, depends on the size of the sauna and how long you leave it on
What did I miss? Why not just plug it into the wall?
Sauna heaters need a lot of current. A tiny one is 220v@25A. Saunas must be wired directly a 220v breaker with special wire not easily found in retail shops. Local rules may be different, so a licensed electrician should be used.
Thank you
Please share the placement of the Thermostat
It is on the wall across from the door and towards the top.
Have you tried alternating hot sauna with cold plunge?
I’ve done that in the past and it is great. Now I just do a cold shower after. Would love a cold plunge if it were more accessible for me.
Did you install it through RCD? As Harvia not recommended it. Looking for this info everywhere. If possible please share with me
price for you 6.5kw heater?
How’s it holding u
What is the cost to run it?
Negligible. About the same as running a clothes dryer.
Wait so I just bought this exact sauna after watching your videos. Of you know, you know when it comes to Saunas and you convinced me to pull the trigger. That being said for the electrical connection do you have to run that giant wire like that? I though they would just modifying the wall socket itself.
Hey man if you didn’t already run the line to answer your q you don’t have to run it directly in that way but you basically need a new 240v line ran.. as far as the outlet no.. you never switch any outlet in your home to 220/240 you go from the box to the unit.. u basically create a new line ok.. so don’t ever mess with already plugs in your home.. hope this helps
@@mikeham5465 Really appreciate the response Mike. I think I understand better now. Is it possible to run that type of wire through the walls/ceiling? And is it complicated?
I'll be putting it in my finished basement about 9 ft away from the electrical box and the ceiling has recessed lighting. So hoping it's possible to fish the wire to the other room where the sauna is.
@@theshimmertrap5825 well it’s always more difficult to run wire inside walls because you have to fish it through.. this will most likely be an exterior line approach.. they have nicer stuff out there than what he used I use the medal corrugated whe running lines outdoor or u CJ’s also run it through pvc pipe how he did it.. but yea man I strongly suggest you not cut holes in walls trying to fish do everything surface mount
Hey if you have Facebook I can Facebook call u and show u how it goes on diy I’ll show u how I did my room.. I’m free for the next hour or so let me know
Hi Ryan, thanks for this info!! I have a couple of questions. We are not getting it to heat up beyond 150 --with lots of water to get it up there. We have this same heater in a small sauna. 1) any tips on rock placement? 2) do you know how to get the metal grate off of the top of the heater safely to help arrange the rocks? 3) any other tips?
Place your heat sensor elsewhere.
Make sure your heater is about 5" above the floor.
Too many rocks, temp sensor should be lower on the wall and not directly above heater. Lower sauna heater so only 4 inches above floor.
@@prosewat99 The heater should be at least 5 inches above the floor for proper airflow.
Thx for the review. Ive used these heater in a couple rentals and my only complain with them is that it always took at least an hour to heat up (Winter conditions outside) but the timer only lasts an hour. Do they have a model that offers longer on time?
The timer only runs 1 hour for safety. If you need more time simply turn the knob on. It does not get hot to the touch.
Excellent video! I'm trying to size a heater for my sauna right now and I'm concerned about under sizing it or possibly having to wait a long time for it to heat up. What were the interior dimensions of your sauna?
Jacob Puckett thanks for the comment. The Interior dimensions are: 49″L x 31″W x 77″H. Good luck with your build!
Made in Finland is a guarantee of quality! Electric stove models that have been tested billions of times are safe. (Some jerks, Duudsons, heat the lake with it, not you)!
What model kit did you buy! Looks legit!
This is the Logan indoor sauna. This is the direct link:
almostheaven.com/collections/all/products/logan-1-person-indoor-sauna
Thanks for watching and commenting!
How much is the heater?
The heater is currently listed for $770. You can find the one I have and more here: www.saunaplace.com/store/Harvia/
Where can I purschase one?
Almostheaven.com
Finlandia Sauna is a manufacturer and have pre-cut or prefab saunas in various sizes. They are in Oregon.
Ryan Miller I want to do something similar. Are you still happy with your sauna? Do you wish you had room for more people?
I love it more and more each time I use it. I don’t mind using it solo. A group size would certainly be nice but I don’t regret the decision at all.
What is the dimension of your sauna?
Helo-
Finland Rocks Suana Heater want to repair
TIMER AS STANDARD
FOR SAFETY
WORLDWIDE PROBLEM
Interesting, you stated that this was the smallest which isnt. There are 2 smaller heaters than yours, after the compact one. I read in H website every Kw is a cubic feet so your setup is overkill. The question is would the smaller heaters reach your temprature?
I meant smallest Sauna not heater. Sorry for any confusion. This sauna/heater combo is how it comes from the manufacturer.
Gear recycling thanks
It’s not a real sauna if you can’t throw water! Harvia is made in Finland and they know you NEED to throw water on the rocks. That’s the best electric heater you can get! I am from Finland born in Tampere.
How much did the electrician charge you?
$995. That was the cheapest of 3 quotes. I was quoted as high as $1600.
Thanks/just received a quote of $900. Not to far off from yours.
@@shawnstimac3449 nice. that sounds reasonable. They installed the heater and helped me finish the assembly. It was lot of money but worth it.
I was only charged $350!
Do you have to run those giant wires through your basement like that? I thought they would just modify the outlet
Hey man, thanks for the review! Question for you - do you notice much heat and/or humidity increase outside the sauna in the rest of the basement?
If I keep the door sauna closed I don't notice too much of a change in the basement. Sometimes after I sauna I will purposely leave the door open and in that case the basement does heat up by around 5 degrees.
Is this an infrared sauna and you just added a electric heater?
No I purchased this directly from almost heaven as one item. The Logan sauna is designed specifically for this electric heater.
Has overtime of ladling water damage onto damage it?
No noticeable damage so far after about 3 years…2-3 times per week.
Water won't hurt the heater, but can cause accelerated wear on the heating elements from corrosion, and the rocks will wear faster. As the rocks grind against each other they break down. You will find grit on the floor under the heater. About every five years I get a box of the correct stones from Harvia.
This video has incorrect instructions for turning on the heater. The first click turns the heater on for immediate use. The second clicks turn the heater back off but puts you in the "delayed timer" area..(1= 1 hour, 2= 2 hours, 3= 3 hours, etc.)....this programs the heater to turn on later so it will already be hot when you want to go in. If you want to use right away, you do NOT want 2 clicks.
The instructions in the video are correct. Turning it one click does not turn the heater on. To turn it on immediately it is 3 total clicks, two clicks clockwise then turning it back counter clockwise until it clicks.
@@RyanMillerSP I agree, the video is 100% correct.
I have an existing 3ft x 3ft x 7ft wooden shed/coffin.. any thoughts how you could heat it to get the 160F-180F? Due to the higher operating costs of electricity, I'd prefer gas..
Unfortunately, even if I had adequate venting, the gas (direct-vent) heaters I've seen are usually meant for large spaces, not small 63 cu.ft spaces, so not sure if it could be made to work.
I did find small (RV) propane furnaces that can deliver 9500 BTU/hr (ex. $800 Propex 2800), however, I'm concerned that it won't be able to push too much hot air before the negative flue/backpressure causes the furnace to overheat/shut-off.
If electric is the only way to go for this space, do you know of any that might fit? Or would the heater sit outside and somehow the heat transferred to the inside?
Ben Nguyen I’m not sure but I think electric or wood burning is the way you want to go. I’d also suggest looking into infrared heaters which are more space efficient.
For such a tiny sauna only electric, 2KW should be sufficient. It will consume 2KW only when it warms up, when gets to the set temperature it will turn on and off to maintain the temperature, and on average it will be on maybe 50% of the time or less, so it will consume 2KW during firs hour, after that it will be 1KW/h per hour, depending on ambient temperature and how often doors are opened, and how ventilated it is.
Never heard of gas heaters for saunas, smallest woodburning stoves have higher power and are designed for larger saunas 5ft x 7ft x 7ft or so, and can not be regulated as precise as electric heaters.
Make sure that sauna has good insulation including insulated doors (maybe small window) glass doors and walls loose a lot of heat. Wood floor instead compared to concrete, has less heat loss. (5 to 10 cm rockwool, reflective water vapor insulation , so that insulation stays dry and maybe insulated doors as well). Of course dont forget about some ventilation, so it is easy to breathe.
Shouldnt take that long to heat
180 is low key weak
Sow-nah... say it. Sow-nah.
you should do this again when you arent high... :)
b r lol the sauna was on and the heat had me blinking a lot and turned my face red.
I see 3 knobs 😂😂😂
Only joking. I couldn't resist hehe
What are the dimensions of your sauna ?
How big is your sauna?
how much did it cost?
Cameron Phillips the sauna was a little over 2 grand.
Thanks for the Great video! Where did you get your sauna?
Cardinal Freebird it was a gift. It was ordered directly from almost heavens website.
@@ryanmilleryoga1098 did that include the heater? It seems much more expensive now!
@@GritzNGravy-rv6cw yes that included the heater. I know costs have gone up significantly across the board. I see the cost is now $3,200 on their website.
Can you throw water on this heater?
He answered that in the video
Finnish tradition is to slap your skin with a bundle birch leaves, then put a ladle of water on the rocks and feel the moist air on your skin and lungs. A few drops of eucalyptus oil in the ladle of water smells nice and clears any nasal congestion.