How Trump Could End Democracy - A Step-By-Step Explanation | Making Sense
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
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What I never get is how so many people can support wrongdoing as long as its done by "their side".
The Trump supporters I know simply refuse to believe that he's done anything wrong, and that accusations against him are part of a political "witch hunt."
Everything Trump is guilty of , Joe Biden and the Democrats are also guilty of. Whether it's compulsive lying, corruption, taking classified documents home, denying election results etc. What i never get is how so many people only see the wrongdoing on the side that isn't theirs.
They think that there is something for them to gain.
The system is not delivering for them, and they would rather break the system, rational or not.
Critical mass. Once a certain level of polarisation is achieved the voices of moderation are drowned out.
Safety in numbers, rational or not.
Us versus Them. In particular, as a generalisation, people are happy to see the law applied to others but not members of their own family.
The person who acts according to a principle of equity always pays for those who cheat. Good and bad do not balance out, even when making things as fair as possible.
Nationalism 101
I know right? it's insane how Sam Harris said "if Hunter biden had dead bodies of children in his basement i will still vote for biden" He also was ok with suppressing the hunter biden laptop.
So trump will become an eternal president by appointing staff to government roles, like every, president, ever.
They’re projecting.
Not a Republican or Democrat here.
The idea is some roles are for loyalists, some roles are for checks and balances. If you can appoint everyone in the Judiciary system it means you have unlimited power. Again, not saying that Trump is good or bad, just talking about the method of dismantling branch independence... And thus democracy and the rule of law...
He already has in current Supreme Court. The majority of Supreme Court justices will secure his interest and imagine with another 4 years.
@@tyreliouszukarious2582 , you might be right, since I am not that into US politics I assume your thoughts on this are more valuable...
Thats what we are doing here in Perú. Welcome to the banana republics club.
My wife is Peruvian. A couple years ago she had the civic duty of working the polls of a local election. Shortly after arriving and before the start of voting, the mafia entered, and politely informed her that she should take the day off. Yeah, she left.
@@sunnyinvladivostok
Lol
The problem is, “We love the uneducated”.
That encompasses more than half of Americans.
Uneducated by what standard?
*educated people supported socialism, eugenics, etc.
@@theforcedmemefilthypapist2892
By trump standards.
He needs their money.
@@fairlanemuscle And the uneducated send him money then complain about the economy.
@@DanSk451you can’t both be this condescending while making points that stupid, man.
Gee, I would hate to see the FBI and Department of Justice politicized.
As if they have not been already.
@@troy3456789 Why that's just a crazy conspiracy theory. You're crazy.
Gee, that would be something if partisan actors pulled strings with the the FBI and FISA courts and lied multiple times in affidavits to obtain warrants to target political opponents using a phony dossier crafted by the opposition party.
Right?? The system is working as it should.
hahahaha
I'm so tired of cowards
That's why Mike Pence has my respect. When it mattered, he was one of the few with a backbone.
@@Thisisahandle701 the guy who won't even be alone in an open room with a woman having a meeting unless he has his woman he calls Mommy to keep an eye on him? That guy?
@jhitchcock5503 yeah, because in terms of nationally relevant consequences, the weird idiosyncrasies of Pence around women ranks lower than him being willing to actively hurt his immediate political career and face the vitriol of his former allies in order to stand for his principles and tell the truth when it would have been easy not to.
@@Thisisahandle701why didn't he respond to you? I wonder 🤔....
@@Thisisahandle701
I also respect Mike Pence. A man of integrity and moral. 🫶✝️
To paraphrase Stalin: How many armoured divisions has the Supreme Court?
Here in Brazil former president Bolsonaro once said something very similar to that.
Thanks for the guide! ❤
Damn, that's what exactly happened in India under Modi.
Like how exactly? Are we indians living under a rock to not have noticed it for almost a decade? Are the indians foolish enough to grant modi highest approval rating for a third consecutive time? Am i too susceptible to fascism that i didnt see it coming despite having lived under modis gujarat for three terms and now modis india for a most probable third term? Are we indians stupid? Are you racist for calling us stupid? I have a lot of questions bro. But mudi must rejin
This was both calm and terrifying
At least Trump is very open about who he is and what he wants to do. The record is very clear from looking at his past presidency and all the stuff he says in public. If people still choose to vote him into office then it can be argued, on some level, that the people agreed, democratically, to potentially end democracy.
That's the truth. There is core Trump supporter that thinks that democracy has destroyed an idea of America they have in their minds. And the way to save it is to have someone like Orban at the top, who'll defend white christian culture, stop immigration, halt what they consider LGBT propaganda, third wave feminism - that's much important to them than marginally improving unemployment or infrastructure. For them this is the fight for the soul of the country. And people like Orban or Putin don't have executive restrictions that US presidents have. And if those restrictions need to be lifted so that Trump can do what needs to be done so be it.
Obviously when people stop following court orders (the president included), we lose our rule of law.
I still don't understand how 80% of Republicans and most Conservatives can support Trump.
Because most of what you think you know is fake. It really is that simple. The media has been lying relentlessly about most subjects of importance. We don't so much disagree on moral values as we disagree on what is real and what isn't.
I wonder if Tom Bilyeu can understand this explanation, or maybe a sharpie and some crayons might help 😂
Must mention other people
He chooses not to understand. It's not that he can't
LOL, very valid point, that dude has gone off the cliff.
Money. It’s all about the Benjamins. 💰
Can any Trumpers make a SUBSTANTIVE argument in rebuttal that doesn't rely on Biden whataboutism or calling out "TDS"? The hour-long phone call between Trump and GA election officials is really worth a listen. I find it baffling that so many are blind to his thinly-veiled con. We can do so much better.
No, they can’t. They spent their money on the sneakers and Trump NFT’s instead of an education
Any dangers posed by Trump are dwarved by the dangers posed by blocking him from office.
Bankrupting, jailing and removing from the ballot one's political opposition is 10x worse than any of the fever dreams presented in this clip.
@snakesandsticks Scary part is long after Trump's gone, these people will be desperate for their next traitorous leader, and one will quickly be crowned
some of them arent even blind to it. they know they election wasnt stolen. they actually dont respect our system
oh i know he's a con and I dont care. The only thing that matters is that the progs lose
The world's worst case of TDS.
The Supreme Court has already done that…& he’s not even in power
No they haven't . At all, what you meant to say is, they've done something you don't like 👍
Biden has already ignored the SCOTUS on student debt. So... yeah. As usual a lot of the things that frighten democrats are already happening under Biden.
this comment section is frightening. barely any discussions, every second comment uses a buzzword or whataboutism and people pretending january 6. wasnt a thing.
we all have to seperate good from bad information in this day and age and yet there are still so many absolutists. why is this so hard for people to figure out?
Well said.
From 10,000 feet, J6 was indeed bad. But as we discover more things about it, its turning out to be rotten to the core.
I find it ironic, the left hoots and hollers about J6, but when you point out Biden has targeted Americans with drone strikes, and the left is mum....that tells me everything I need to know.
Ironic, given that your comment hinges on a buzz word.
You should watch what J6 actually looked like within the building - it looked like a tour. Meanwhile, the summer prior, the country burned in the largest simultaneous riot in the history of the country to the chorus of crickets in the media and from the government response. Yet when the federal government is the target of discontent its made into a tragedy compared in the media to September 11th 2001 (yes this really happened).
J6 is just a talking point - just a buzz word. Something to let you know the federal government owns you and you can nothing about it.
@@boligenic8118yeah i should keep that in mind
@@Zhamp0 yeah. Its also the case that the entire MAGA tribe IS now Putin's Puppets, because their Orange Jesus is one. They repeat his talking points just like good little soldiers. Scary times.
Wasn't this meant to happen last time?
Well, he did attempt a coup. Don't want him to try again.
it did (luckily too late); "A Schedule F appointment was a job classification in the excepted service of the United States federal civil service that existed briefly at the end of the Trump administration during 2020-2021. It would have contained policy-related positions, removing their civil service protections and making them easy to fire. It was never fully implemented, and no one was appointed to it before it was repealed at the beginning of the Biden administration.
The purpose of the provision was to increase the President's control over the federal career civil service. While proponents stated this would increase flexibility and accountability, it was widely criticized as providing means to retaliate against federal officials for political reasons. It was estimated that tens or hundreds of thousands of career employees could have lost their civil service protections, increasing the number of political appointments by a factor of ten."
Yes, he attempted a coup . Not good to let him try again
@@7JeTeL7 How is this "anti-democratic" when an elected official now has more power to remove un-elected bureaucrats?
It literally is increasing democracy, which people like Sam supposedly care about ( but obviously don't, nor does anyone really ).
That is unfortunate!@@7JeTeL7
Already half way there. Our systems are failing us as we speak.Like the frog dropped in cool water and gradually cooked as the water heats up.
And instead of speaking openly about HOW our institutions are failing us, Harris has devoted his entire platform to convincing the public to maintain faith in them regardless.
So you want to jump into the ocean instead of trying to plug the leak in the sinking ship @@tcorourke2007
@@tcorourke2007 I dont think you understand what you're saying.
Nobody is saying you need to blindly trust every expert all the time. You just need to understand that experts do indeed exist. You dont just blindly trust the advice of a random doctor. No, you do research, and get to know a few doctors, then decide which one is most trustworthy. But at the end of the day, you will be getting your medical advice from an accredited doctor, not a random dude on youtube.
@alibabaschultz352 Harris advised us to trust the CDC, which wildy overreacted and got every call wrong. The New York Times specifically told us NOT to "do our own research" and that "now is not the time for critical thinking." Doctors who resisted Covid orthodoxy had their careers destroyed.
You have a very poor memory, my friend.
All sounds believable to me. I just wonder then why Democrats appear to be doing everything they can to make sure he is reelected.
Would you recommend what the Democrats could do?
@@proprgent Be a lot more aggressive and a lot more unified.
Drop the woke stuff, it's killing the left and getting guys like Trump elected worldwide @@proprgent
@@proprgent too late for what I'd like to see; remove super delegates, allow non establishment nominees.
Bullshit. Republicans are making it appear as if it's Democrats fault. It isn't. It's 100% a republican/Russian issue so get your eye on the true enemy and stop blaming your allies. Our political system was altered so that financial interests anywhere in the world could manipulate our politics and as the owner of fox said said "Its not about red or blue, its green". This then opened up the door for foreign entities to start playing games with our entire system and thats precisely what we see.
The reality is things are primed to unravel whether Trump plays a role or not.
As if the current politicians and status quo ISN'T a clear and present danger to democracy??
That is incredibly dumb generalization
So... Basically you explain the Israeli judicial reform... (As they tried to pass it).
The key thing you forgot is that once you appoint loyalists instead of professionals most citizens get worse off. Because the rule of law crumbles (if the Judge cannot rule against a relative of a party member the rule of law collapses...).
Some would say that the attempt to pass it is exactly what brought about the rare opportunity for Hamas to massacre 1200 people and take about 200 hostages... (Mass protests... Weakening economy... Some soldiers refusing to volunteer...)
This video is a great example of the "slippery slope" logical fallacy! Thanks!
A British writer penned one of the best descriptions of Donald Trump. It read:
“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?
A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?' If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.”
---Nate White.
Trump is liked by so many precisely BECAUSE he is like that. He's a proxy, an "in your face protest", against a system, a political order many feel has betrayed them. Trump is a congenital liar, but he's honest about the kind of thing he's going to do once in power: "Dictator for a 'day' ", pardoning criminals, taking revenge against those who opposed him, purging the civil service and military of the "disloyal".
If America elects this monster, they won't recognise their country.
Well said. I suppose what i would tell the Brits is this:
America has a big education problem, and the most undereducated are the ones that like Trump the most.
And, Americans generally on both sides, hate our government so much, they literally wish to take a wrecking ball to the whole thing. Obviously this is short sighted view of the world, hence why I pointed to the lack of education.
Ah nice i love opinions from people who ignored foreign migrants raping white British girls in the thousands for diversity
And the UK should just shut up its a joke and failing
Yep. Wake up those who don t vote.
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That happened to the Philippines under Duterte. He kicked the Supreme Cout Chief and closed the biggest news network there. To tet government employees of loyalty to him, the government worker should agree and praisehim and post it to social media.
I don't wanna abolish term limits, cause I'm not out of my goddam mind.
And guess who else wouldn’t support the abolishment of term limits? The vast majority of the public.
Stop listening to this political fiction.
BIDEN 2028.
This is the MAGA dream scenario. I think this is absolutely what they want to happen and using their vote to help make it happen.
So let's say that happens. Are you prepared to pick up arms and stop it?
@@theforcedmemefilthypapist2892I bet you think you would
Make America great again dream scenario is to make America great again, nothing wrong with that
@theforcedmemefilthypapist2892 why would u try and stop ppl from making this country great? Are u not American? Then you are my enemy, if you actively don't want my country to be great again
@@teacopem The current clown show in office has hit rock bottom and yet continues to dig.
Someone who believes the truths as explained in a catechism is to be more greatly admired than a proud philosopher who stops at natural truths without rising to God or yielding to the doctrine of the Church.
Kurt Gödel explained this already in 1947. Einstein told him to not mention this during his naturalisation exam.
Wonder if Trump is taking notes...thinking 'hmm, those are some great ideas I just came up with.'
I wouldn't be surprised. The same thing happened with Judge canons court dockets, soon after realizing Meidas Touch network and others were covering her bias orders, now shes issuing secret court dockets.
Listening to you for years, Sam. Big fan.
I'm not a MAGA, Trump guy, at all.
Just a casual follower of politics and current events with a deep interest in philosophy and ethics.
Do you ever play devil's advocate with your political stance on Trump?
He did once say something about getting it prior to the 2020 election. Paraphrasing here, but said he understood how voters were put off by the other side that calls them racist, brow beats them, thinks they’re deplorable, etc… He didn’t say it was enough to vote for Trump, simply that he finally comprehended it.
I don’t blame people for hating Trump. He is an a-hole and I think the country would definitely be better off if Hillary had won back in 2016. However, at this point in time I cannot vote for the Party that thinks millions of intruders coming over the border a year is great and anyone who doesn’t like it is evil. The Party who pretends white supremacy is the number one issue facing America. The Party that focuses on utter nonsense while 100 major cities across the U.S. are sinking into decay. I doubt Trump will be able to do anything palpable about it, but I’m not voting for the Democrats if they’re going to play make-believe with what issues are truly affecting taxpayers in our day-to-day existence.
He is Jewish doesn't matter left right etc they all want a pro Jew Muppet at the helm
Set up a law to sue the appointees if they don't get confirmed
Finally! My pleas have been answered! I posted the transcription twice under the full version and the other excerpt asking for this.
_You say it like we have a democracy..._ 🙄
So you're fine with a dictator, as long as its YOUR dictator.
@@alibabaschultz352 So you are blue maga.
I, for one, hate them both.
So you are bluе mаgа.
And Sam Harris uses auto-censorship of comments... 🙄
Biden is a dictator already, ingonoring congress, the polls, and the Supreme court on the student loan and border issues. Hes also corrupt.@alibabaschultz352
Forcing people to vote for a senile person doesn't help at all.
"Look, he will end democracy, please vote for this sick person"
This comment - on a crystal clear explanation of how America becomes a fascist state.... Jesus wept
Trump is literally Hitler, therefore having a senile person as our fake president makes perfect sense
@@angusp5178LMAO😂😂
Shut up. Democracy is already over here.
What about all the January 6th persecutions?
You mean he might weaponize the FBI, IRS, and state prosecutors? Noooooooo! Tell me more.
Isn’t he facing charge after charge and continual obstruction in the courts? That whole Colorado de-registration thing by the state attorney general that was overturned as unconstitutional by the SCOTUS in the last month?
@@wattleboughOne bullshit allegation at a time, he's defeating the witch hunt against him.
I'm not a fan of the guy, never have been, but looking at what's going on I can't help but be irritated. If it were anyone else, I'd be just as irritated.
@@M.Linoge I believe anyone is innocent until proven guilty, and a disproportionately large amount of effort and focus is being pumped into the cases against him. Cases which are being marshalled by people who openly say they're out to get him. Cases that are gradually but steadily crumbling due to their lack of merits, and despite the efforts of those litigating them to rush the process.
I don't pay attention to Hillary. Never have. Even back when Trump was giving her and Bill campaign donations.
I've been following Sam Harris for a decade, subscribe to his podcast, subscribe to his meditation app, and think he is one of the most intelligent, articulate, sensible thinkers of the day. Also, I despise Trump and would never vote for him. That said, this whole End-of Democracy shtick is ridiculous garbage. It's Sam Harris version of "just asking questions". It's Sam Harris doing his version of Alex Jones. That he allows his guest to say it's possible that there will be no elections in 2028 without any supporting evidence, and with no pushback, just leaves me shaking my head. There have been one or two times (see: Triggernometry/Hunter laptop) where I have become aware that Sam has glaring blind spots amidst an otherwise brilliant intelligence. I'm just profoundly disappointed with the level of his derangement and lack of critical thinking on this subject.
I really home you are right.
glad youre starting to notice the delusional banana stuff. Might want to look deeper still bro... just saying
Democracy is still the best system . We are all product of different kind of system and in order to evolve and reach in the rightful and just way of thinking, of doing, of saying, humans need time, free space to move, to express the inner thoughts. System that is too tight or too lose will never give a mind a chance to be open freely.
There are people who do not like to hear this idea. But this iis nevitable.
Scary things...
Don't give him ideas...
How do you explain the fact that he was already president for 4 years and didn't do any of those things?
Well, Trump derangement syndrome comes to mind....
We're not doing that now
@brucegregson621 By "we're not doing that" you mean "we're not offering facts, arguments, or reason, only bold-faced assertion"?
A few reasons, but the most important is that he had a lot of people in his ear telling him “you absolutely cannot do this.” The team he has now and the people who will be surrounding him in terms 2 will only be saying “you absolutely have to do this and you are completely within your rights to do so.”
The fact is, there actually were adults in the room for most of Trump’s first term. His team and the people that surround him now are specifically organizing things so that won’t be the case if he wins again. Their motivations actually seem to be way more radical than Trump’s personal motivations are, but that really makes no difference.
"How do you explain the fact that Vladimir Putin was already president for 4 years and didn't do any of those things?" he asked in 2004
Nightmare scenario.
LOL
We don't have a liberal democracy. We have a constitutional republic.
Do these guys study basic civics or read the constitution?
horrifying
3+ years of the Dem-Biden rule is more than enough. We need the opposite of their rule.
Leaving party politics aside. If you think about that statement for a couple of minutes you might realize how scary that line of thinking can be. This is exactly what populist movements do, it's us vs "them". Obviously "they" are terrible because -insert whatever issue happening at the moment- therefore we are the solution.
All Trump needs is an endless stream of people who can fill these tens of thousands of spots!
This is just Sam psyching himself up to explain why Trump needs to be stopped by any means necessary come... July-ish
My red State is eager to have a President that ignores any Supreme Court ruling that they don't like.
Lucky for you, that was just wild speculation.
We've seen Biden do that. Was your state happy about that?
It's already over.
Pretty much. Frankly, anyone with the ability to work as an expat or abroad in general should leave.
Then pull down your panties and bed over!
Indeed; and the chipping away of how meaningful government institutions particularly the legal system function started when he was elected in 2016 and is still going. No coup is needed. I am feeling strong headwind for sure....
@@theforcedmemefilthypapist2892 I wish I had the means and family disconnect to do it.
The current administration? Too soon
Could polemic hypotheticals about Trumpocalypse reduce my interest in Sam Harris podcasts?
everyone has their use, Sams value is gently convincing people religion is stupid. ironically his willingness to engage with fantasy when it comes to proposed political tyranny is hypocritical. the dude isn't even president right now. i could also list "how trump could" turn our country into 1 big disneyland where our clothing has to be from disney media, that doesn't mean it's logical.
You should broadcast it 24/7 on all media
Constitutional amendment specifically states two terms, so, if he is elected a second time, that's all folks.
Not when you push for Martial law and the suspension of the Constitution
That means two consecutive terms... or he can just be "vice president" under invanka. It's a fucking joke.
@@jjreddick377 That is definitely on the menu for Joe Biden and Harris. He's doing everything he can to crap all over 1st, 2nd, 4th and 14th amendments of the bill of human rights in the US right now as we speak. He just opened up a gun confiscation office in the white house.
@@TheWaveofbabiesno it doesn’t. The 22nd amendment states that a person cannot be elected president more than twice, or more than once if they served more than two years of the remainder of the previous president’s term. It would say consecutive terms if it only applies to consecutive terms.
So what. He just says I’m staying. You and what army gonna make me leave ?
Where is that one dude who posted this in the comments. Sam did what you suggested
Did someone suggest he post this clip?
@@Yossarianhoenikker ya on a different clip from the same episode.He posted the entire transcript of this dialogue
This is why free speech is so important. These conversations have to be recorded into the internet so we can point to them in 5 years. So they can be added to a Matt Orfalea compilation, like the Russiagaters and the 2016 election deniers that you want to forget about. You guys know he was already president once, right? God, I hate Trump and I like Sam Harris, but the derangement syndrome is very real...
yeah. we also remember he amd his lackeys attempted a coup to remain in power when he was president.. so what is the point here?
@@lucy-perono that did not happen. There was not an attempted coup.
Sam Harris is still crying about Trump? Really?
yep LOLOL ... still totally TDS while still maintaining totally rational beliefs in other topics. Its the biggest paradox ever
@@blitzmotorscooters1635One day you'll realize that he's an emotional basket case that's wrong on just about everything. Especially atheism.
Gotta love the folks who bought the sneakers, the NFT’s, the t-shirt that says “never surrender” while Trump was surrendering, or pieces of his suit, and say that Sam has “TDS”, all the while thinking they’re the reasonable ones. Hate to think how much of their savings went toward that.
Our empathy for them is not reciprocated. We still can’t help it, it’s built into us
@@Michael-kp4bdempathy is toxic and gross with the progs. Hence all the homelessness and addiction we have now.
@@sameagletheregal8526 yeah if we don’t even have thoughts about mental illness and addiction, those people will just stop and buy homes
@@Michael-kp4bd where I live, in a hell hole called Seattle, the goal is to normalize drug addiction and homelessness, to just make it part of society. There is no movement to end addiction here, just over feminized toxic progressive empathy. And it's killing people and robbing others of their belongings too.
Trump isn’t the greatest. But Sam, do you think maybe your feelings about trump are bordering on obsession? You have so many other skills and so much more relevant knowledge that could help people suffering. Obsessing over trump isn’t the way man.
The criminals trump has pardoned is appalling, as long as they were loyal to trump.
He didn't free a terrorist like Susan Rosenberg Clinton did
And exactly how does that differ from the current administration?
Everything. Go away cray cray
@@tinakaminskadickinson3328 Just name three ways, please.
It's not much different, really. Biden has already ignored SCOTUS on student debt. Some DAs have basically decriminalised some crimes, by not prosecuting them, making the corresponding cities crime ridden holes. The DOJ and three letter agencies are obviously politicised. The double standards across the board are normalised. Etc.
@@Maxtraxx She won't.
TDS 2.0 - If Trump is elected president in 2024, and none of this happens, will there be an apology?
"Actually this is pretty much in line with my predictions"
I am not a Trump fan. But some of these accusations seem far fetched.
*RONALD GUNT 2024*
I don't even like Trump but this is some next level TDS
After the 2020 election Trump said he wanted to suspend the Constitution in order to steal the election.
Trump formed and unleash the violent mob during the Jan 6 insurrection at the Capital. After being begged by aides and top Republicans to call it off, after being told the Vice President and his family were in mortal peril, Trump tweeted out for the mob to continue fighting. After that message the mob surged further.
Trump says he wants to be a dictator on day one. You can look all of this up easily.
Why you say TDS?
"How Trump Could End Democracy" - Has anyone taken a good look around over the last few years? I mean a "Good Look"?
Yeah, I think you know that Trump never did this. Projection much?
Did what?
@@alibabaschultz352 Open borders, DEI, Inflation, Crime Spike, Covid lies, etc. etc. tec.
Sam "if things go the way I imagine they might, then anything is justified in preemptive response" Harris
Surprised how far I had to scroll before someone pointed it out
If things go the way they are currently being megaphoned by the group seeking autocratic power, you mean.
Sam: "No, it's for reals this time guys"
What are you talking about? He was right about Trump’s first term too. He eroded the functioning of our democracy . Do you seriously think the country hasn’t deteriorated since the year he took office?
Could Biden have been more effective fighting inflation if he hadn't focused on reducing unemployment? I have only heard this question once, so I'd like to know if there's anything to it. 🤔
He help make sure that DEI programs lead the way in all hiring practices, making it harder for some in our population to get any work at all.
@@troy3456789Thanks Jews for forcing DEI on us
They wanna reform it now have you heard? Because Jews were hurt in it😂😂😂
Imagine that, an atheist that hates Trump 😂😂. God truly is the best comedian. Trump is a soldier for truth and good and that is why the world seemingly hates him.
Chilling scenario, that has played out in recent years with Hungary, India, etc.
Yes, Hungary and India, two countries that are practically identical to the United States, makes this hypocritical case totally plausible and not complete hyperbole at all...
What Democracy?where?
you will fully realize, only after you loose it...
@@7JeTeL7 Lose it? The US founding fathers avoided a democracy like they avoided a theocracy (and thankfully they did). That word doesn't appear in the US constitution or any state constitution either.
The founders knew that mass numbers of people could be persuaded to believe in any number of stupid horrible ideas. Venezuela democratically voted in socialists to run their country, subsequently running Venezuela into the dirt. Palestinians democratically voted Hamas into power, and that hasn't panned out well for them.
@@troy3456789 yes, they successfully experience lack of democracy and hence have no means to change it
It's still fucking democracy though. Just because you can point to the times it's failed doesn't mean it isn't the best mechanism available
@@7JeTeL7We never had it you goofy😂
Next-level TDS 😂
Democracy is voting for the trash candidates and policies of my favored party. Anything else is fascism. You wouldn't want democracy to end, would you?
How do these POSSIBILITIES not apply to ANY POTUS? You're worried about 20-30,000 people feeling beholden to a POTUS? What would prevent 87,000 new IRS agents from feeling beholden?
Trump is treasonous ☹️
Boden is as well...flooded our borders and took money from foreign adversaries.
Wait, isn't the current Administration ignoring the Supreme Court on forgiving student loan debt?
Correct
Nayib Bukele 2024!
Wow, Sam! The comments suggest you triggered the Maga cultists. Keep up the good work 🙏🙏
Oh no, the corrupt leviathan that jokingly passes as democracy could be dismantled. The utter horror and insanity of it all!
Negative comments = good video? Like the way Michael Jackson used "Bad?"
@@tcorourke2007 triggering the braindead is a sign of life
Progressives in 2016: Our election was compromised
Progressives in 2020: It's impossible for US elections to be compromised
@@troy3456789 Republicans 2016 : it’s all rigged
Republican 2016 : Trump won fair and square
Republicans 2020: election was stolen
2024: Trump is definitely going to win.
I miss Sam before Trump. It just consumes some people.
Lol. Imagine thinking that sternly criticising the most incompetent and corrupt shitstain to ever sully the presidency was a sign of some weird obsession or derangement.
The given that people idolize strongman/shakerupper that DJT encompasses, I can not understand the attraction.
There is no attraction. People just vote for at least a semblance of sanity. The left has gone completely insane at this point. Most people don't vote for Trump, they vote against Dems.
Trump 2024!
10 out of 10 really fun fan fiction. In the sequel to 2016’s Russia gate, Sam brings us a whole new fun disaster scenario in his latest fictional thriller America gate. That’s right folks when Russia isn’t big enough Sam takes it to the top . In 2024’s America gate; the end of democracy as we know it! This thriller is bound to last 4 years, at least😉
Most vapid response in this comment section. That's really an achievement given the generel level is lower than the deepest point of the ocean.
I have a lot of respect for Sam Harris. But this Trump stuff is overdone.
Americans are upset with the choices American democracy is providing them.
They are not interested is abandoning democracy. They are not interested in Trump running a 3rd term.
They are not interested in electing a Donny Trump Jr.
Lol
What Democracy ? 😮
I remember when democracy ended in 2016. Meanwhile the US President is seeking to imprison and seize the properties of his opposition opponent.
Except that’s nonsense.
Bro WHAT lol that cannot be your perception of things. Trump landed himself in trouble with the law for Jan 6, tax fraud, 2nd slate of electoral college voters, etc. Stop with this nonsense. The man needs to go away. He's trash
100% true
@@DanSk451 oh. Now justify Biden drone striking American citizens.
I think you are more Jordan Peterson than Sam Harris. did you understand anything, or did you just start trolling right away?
Gen X, the Worst Generation. Sorry, America.
One person can´t dismantle it unless he/she has some cult-like followers, as Trump most certainly does. #mentalillnessmatters
Women shouldnt have opinions on politics
This is a great example
@@deeznutz8320 Your post reveals everything we need to know about your (lack) of character, integrity and basic intelligence. I hope you can get help..
you people are completly gone .. you are completly unravelled cognitivly..
I never thought I’d say it but sam really does appear to have TDS
He has had it for a long time. Same with coronavirus derangement.
Why not just speak directly to all of the various categories of people who have been voting for him... What I mean is not, why don't you two guys - but why doesn't anyone, from the frightened liberal side of the spectrum of opinion these days - speak directly to the various categories of people who have been voting for him - and explain to them directly why he seems so frightening - and listen to them explain how they understand their interests, too - and maybe an actual public dialogue might get started, or something.
I have difficulty understanding whether or how much people on the left side of the political spectrum really even believe what they're saying, or not. Trump represents whole huge swathes of the U.S. public. You can break it down into however many demographics as you like - but the point is that if he's about to become the tyrant who overthrows American democracy once and for all - and that's not just a way of entertaining oneself with paranoid fantasies but a fear actually taken seriously - we had better start talking to those various demographics, now. Because it's going to be in their name (and there are a lot of different such demographics - and they aren't all racial ones) that now only possible dictator is going to institute the Tyranny.
Well you are speaking with a side which tends to make up their own reality. I'm a former Republican but I'll be grouped in with the liberals, you know the side that is against Trump because Trump himself has been instrumental in pitting one side against another, by calling every one who opposed him as a rhino, liberal etc. he has been dividing us to save his own ass. This is the problem with a malignant narcissist. They/he will burn it all down to save himself from prosecution that is very much deserved and if you don't believe that we don't have much to talk about.
It failed in Israel in 2023
Jesus Christ
Given the opportunity, Sam would install martial law & suspend the election to prevent Trump ending democracy.
Sam Derangement Syndrome.
Trump doesn't deserve to be allowed to run again. Shouldn't Jan 6,the have been enough. We've already lost somewhat because him being the lead candidate normalizes what he did, which definitely was to overthrow the democracy in a sense that he would be elected again regardless of losing the popular vote. Yeah a lot of posters here. Still have some sort of jaded attitude towards those who are trying to shut this criminal down and keep them away from power, where he should never should have been in the first place. Now because apparently the courts can be gamed or don't move enough for actual justice, we have to sit through another election with this guy? Through the stolen election thing again because he has no bottom and has created an army of others with no bottom purely running on emotions. The so-called liberals are emotional too. They will say but who wouldn't be seeing this BS going on? It tells me that America is in decline.
Trumpistan: "tRuMp dErAnGeMeNt sYnDrOmE, yOu dOnT tAlk aBoUt DeAr LeAdEr lIkE tHiS!!"
Oh my god I absolutely CANNOT HANDLE Sam Harris' TDS for another 5 years. Hoping he doesn't get reelected for that reason alone.
5 brutally long years :(
Sam and all his recent guests: "denying millions of citizens the right to vote for their preferred candidate is the only way to save democracy"
Cite any part of a podcast where he or his guest said that. Go ahead, i'm waiting.
Consider Colorado’s decision a “legal theory” that failed in the court. 1 for Colorado, 150 for a failed incumbent.
When in power, and after wiping out the civil servants who put the constitution before the president, the situation is vastly different. This is no fan fiction, this is outlined by the Trump campaign and current republicans in power, even those who prefer a Republican candidate over Trump. Why enshrine democracy when it results in your party having minority power in roughly 6 year cycles when you can enshrine your party’s power indefinitely? Well, only the reasoning is to maintain democracy - which is in opposition to the first goal. So away it goes. Don’t look at me, look at Republicans in Congress. Their actions continue to show which comes first.
@@tricky2014Hyperbole is too hard of a term for the super smart Harris audience
That familiar feeling of Trump exhaustion syndrome starts setting in again and it's not even April....