The whole slashing of entertainment is exhausting. I'm frankly tired of the cost excuse by management to justify cost savings. If management can't afford to take a pay cut or sacrifice a bonus or two, how are cast members supposed to afford pay cuts? Management needs to quit raising prices while slashing needed cast members and maintenance. I can spend my money at Epic Universe, which will be new, AKA not broken yet as opposed to dilapidated WDW/DL. PAY ATTENTION Disney.
Or what many families who fly out there have started doing, and flying to Tokyo Disney instead. Not including airfare, it is sooo much cheaper, and they have a ton of entertainment cast members. Three entirely different parades even. WDW doesn’t have any technically. It makes no sense because OLC doesn’t own any of the properties. They have to pay Disney for the licensing, pay imagineers, etc. So they don’t make nearly the same profit margin that Disney does on their parks, and they’re totally fine with it. To tell you the truth, that’s what we did. I’m flying back home tomorrow. It’s crazy how much more affordable everything was, and everything had that special extra magic to it that domestic Disney lost.
Domestic parks management is shooting themselves in the foot I’ve been adamantly saying this for half a decade now. Their latesr fiasco is everything pertaining to DAS.
Please Disney Fix your parks! I do not want a 5th park built under current management. It will be so cheap and bad. I’m gonna miss those trashcans just like I miss those signs. I remember as a kid I didn’t have Google maps and I couldn’t read signs very well, but when I saw those purple signs I knew I was at Disney and it made me so happy. Also what the heck?! If they take all the entertainment away what are people supposed to do at avengers campus? They’re not exactly there for the scenic buildings. They spent so much money on that Spider-Man animatronic and they’ll just throw it away just to screw over the cast members.
I saw and called out these entertainment cuts coming the moment news hit about the unionizing being a success. Disney is nothing if not predictable these days in screwing employees
They need to fix the damn parks they have before building new ones. Besides, given what Communicore amd the Poly expansion came out looking like, I expect anything new to just look like an outlet mall with some IP stuck to it.
@@imtired1696To be fair I went on MIB and ET today for the first time in 6 months and they looks as good as new to my surprise. Simpsons will most likely be replaced soon and rip ride rockit I believe is being ripped down. Also Poseidons Fury getting replaced and Toon Lagoon's days are probably numbered so Universal is bullish in their future investments too! We all win as long as they fix or replace things eventually.
@@clarkh5390 I think that goes for every park and hey, if you actually do think that then ok, I can’t stop you. I just want people to have fun at the park. I wants to be a theme park engineer when I’m older it’s annoying to see people make everything into a battle. You know what I mean. Hope you understand. Just agree to disagree.
Why would they build a new park when they can't even keep both water parks open and close AK at 6pm! Maybe fix this first. I sure am ready to see Big Al and gang again.
That's not true. You do know AK Lodge offers a Nighttime safari right? Do you know zoos all over the country offer nighttime events right? Even if they wanted to close Killamenjaro Safaris early they could keep the rest of the park open late.
@donkeydefense Do you really believe that? You think they invested millions in a land filled with bioluminescent props with the intention of no one ever seeing it?
I hope that plans for a 5th gate is held off until this IP mandate thing loosens heavily. I also still believe they need to improve all the park they do have.
They're kind of at that point in the resort where there will always be something they need to do. A refurb. A reno. A redo. I think it would ultimately hurt the resort if they did.
My hope is that Country Bear Jamboree can be restored to its original show at some point. Sadly Splash Mountain will never be able to go back to its former glory the way Disney World's Tiki Room was able to.
Can't stand all the "Disney needs a 5th park to compete" talk. Tom explained all the right reasons. Disney has plenty of room in its current parks to expand and grow. Fantasy Springs is a perfect example of how an almost mini theme park itself, can be added to an existing park. Literally 4 new attractions, dining, and a hotel all added at once.
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra They wouldn't because Disney spending on other stuff which questions if they bite more than they can chew. They spend so much on building new cruises and buying lands + maintaining ships, no wonder the budget cuts. They overspend on other extra nonsense that could be used on the parks, OLC spends solely on the parks. Now it starts to make sense why there are so many entertainment cuts and project cancellations.
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra it's called an example. Fantasy Springs is owned by OLC and can't be duplicated, but Disney can build an original land, like Villains land, and use the same concepts.
They can't even keep the parks they have fully staffed, maintained, and running at capacity. Rides are down on busy days, restaurants sit empty, shows are closed, and staffing is at below bare minimum levels while their functions are shunted off onto janky phone apps.
Why did they rename the Country Bear Jamboree to Country Bear Musical Jamboree. Doesn't Jamboree already mean Music Jam? The new sign looks cheap and its sad they got rid of the hand carved sign by a Disney legend.
Right now there are three parks between 45 and 25 years old that are severely lacking in rides/attractions. They can't even fix a Yeti at Animal Kingdom let alone add capacity post-Avatar, the Studios is a thematical mess with little to do outside thrills and shows, and EPCOT has lost its identity and failed to add a country pavilion in decades. At least a decade of post-Iger damage repair is needed before a fifth gate is even considered.
Disney ruin the remaking parks , failed Disney plus , failed in the box office , let’s lose more money by building a fifth park that no one want and can’t afford
I am from the late 90s early 2000s era of Disney parks but have so much love for the past. Everytime I make a trip to Disney I feel as if something from my childhood in the parks have disappeared:(
If there’s a fifth park, I’m going to say “Disney Port Adventure” or “Disney’s Lands of Magic” or “ADVENTURE ADVENTURE ADVENTURE ADVENTURE By Disney (Adventure)”
@kermit-operationmisspiggyp8268 I suppose for Florida theming although if they wanted to do a 5th park it would have to be a grandiose scale one similar to Disney Sea and not California Adventure.
Here’s how Disney can get me back: - Restore DAS with proof of condition rules - Make Genie Plus Unlimited - Reduce costs of food, limited events, hotels - More roaming characters - Bring current parks up to standard in terms of maintenance and modern park expectations - Bring back ‘The Disney Difference’ generally - Create more park unique characters and attractions, stories - Bring science and education and wonder back to Epcot. To name just a few.
Disney World/land is nothing without its live entertainment! As a musician myself this makes me feel really sad. I hope they do plan to replace with different shows.
I disagree that more parks are not sustainable, but I also believe massive expansions should happen to the existing parks first as much as possible, and not just remade existing things with slashed budgets.
It's just as good. People's nostalgia for Splash Mountain is insane. Tiana's has a lot more detail and tricks. It is certainly on par with Splash Mountain.
@@MrMac1138 I disagree, I watched the ride through and it was boring compared to Splash Mountain. Don't forget, the ONLY reason why Splash was changed to Tiana was because people bitched and complained about how the Song of the South film was "racist" and "woke" and instead of Disney saying "We are NOT giving into these complaints!", they just tucked their tails and ran to change the ride like the little spineless cowards they are!
@@GenGamesUniverse People who have actually ridden the ride say the POV video doesn’t do it justice. I thought Disney changed the theme because they would sell more Tiana merch than Brer merch, since the color Disney cares most about is green.
When you have to plan your trip months ahead of time it terrible to hear that all the entertainment we were expecting isn’t going to be available. It feels like a bait and switch. We are having a Pixar Fest but buy the time you get here there will be no Pixar just price hikes fest.
When I went back in 2010 and 2012, there wasn't anything there that was now - no star wars land, no pixar land, no "mickey and minnies runaway train" ride, no Frozen ever after, no Tron, no Moana etc. IT was all the same as what I remembered it as a child when I visited with my parents in the 1990s except that Horizons, Wonders of Life, Innovations, Universe of Energy and World of Motion were gone.
Imagine building a 5th park after replacing great movie ride with mickey and minnies, and the park you replaced a ride in is still short on attractions.
Maybe not a popular opinion but the Great Movie Ride wasn’t great, certainly not worthy of being the park centerpiece. However we’ll go out of our way to ride MMRR. It just entertains us better
@@DanTheMan1973 cant deny that. My issue isnt about which ride is better. Its the fact that the parks are so crowded and they keep trading one ride for another instead of adding capacity. Lines are crazy ling and people have to pay to skip lines and overplan everything. Disneyland park by comparison has so many e tickets its crazy. Basically magic kingdom and hollywood studios combined, and while they have lightning lane, its completely unnecessary.
Yes! And even the attractions they DO have aren't always all running on any given day! And aren't there still theater buildings in DHS sitting empty with no shows in them?
California adventure would be lifeless without street entertainment... and im not a show guy. Buena vista street neeeeds them. Avengers campus without characters is the most pathetic thing. They cheaped out on a spiderman ride (its horrendous) and spent money on the stuntronic instead... but to cut that too????? Im shocked. Taking the adventure out of california adventure
The fact that entertainment cuts are starting to become more and more likely to happen is genuinely considering for many reasons. I really hope they keep most of those entertainment offers at those parks.
"there is a maximum amount of theme parks this city can handle" OK Tom except the Orlando airport completed a major expansion NOW while Disney has not been adding major capacity for over a decade. Universal is going to take that increased capacity having a park ready to go in the near term as long as they price accordingly. Disney has been public about pricing to turn away capacity growth the market has already been asking for. (even though they are liars about wanting less guests to better the experience). By the time Disney expansions are complete I would imagine airport capacity just expands further. You have to consider as well the new train options that will encourage locals and tourists from other areas of Florida. Disney's idea that this is a mature market with limited growth is a big part of the reason they allowed universal to take marketshare away while they underinvested. The reality is universal identified their competitor was so stupid and greedy raising prices, underbuilding and turning capacity away, that they thought it was worthwhile to buy back land (they had previously sold on a fire sale) for future theme park use and build a whole new park/ associated hotels. Maybe I could agree that Disney cant support a 5th park for some number of years, but that would be a uniquely Disney problem they created for themselves by underinvesting and giving away marketshare. Also its kris-thee-lee on pronunciation. His one of the best mandolin players and songwriters alive right now and a good choice by Disney. Respect if you don't delete this and I do appreciate your takes and enabling a discourse.
Thank you so much for clarifying the Chris Thile pronunciation, he is one of THE greatest living musicians, and I about fell out of my chair realizing he was doing CBJ!
Doesn't matter if they build a new park if it's going to be built like most of their most recent projects. Build it cheap Put a photo op in it Make it lame
13:44 I am very upset about the trashcan color change and the color change of the road signs and etc. the design, research, craft and care that was put into this by sussman prejza co was timeless. The only thing dated about this was faded color and aging. My belief is that all of this could have stayed but just been repainted or refinished.
WDW doesn’t need a fifth park. Rather it needs beefing up of its existing parks. Even after the work Epcot still needs so much. The wonders of life pavilion is empty, your signature ride is in rough shape, half of your country pavilions lack an attraction or film. There’s work to be done with what you’ve got.
Eric is doing a great job but it is nice to see you behind the desk! It’s about time WDW get some attention and a 5th park sounds great but I’m not holding my breath for that.
Tom, I’m so glad you feel the same way as I do about the TTC trash cans. For some reason Disney trash cans are my special interest and those were one of my favs!
I see you! I think that's awesome that your special interest is the trash cans around the resort. Don't ever let anyone tell you it's weird, because it's cool someone really cares about that stuff. Personally my special interest is all the food, I love reading Disney world menus, even if I don't plan on eating there I ALWAYS pause when I see one in a vlog and "pick" what I'm going to eat, hahaha! I just wanted to say I really liked your comment, hope you have a lovely day.
Your feelings about the loss of the purple '80s signs on the property are the same as mine when those replaced the original ones from my childhood. "Holy wow, WDW is so important to us transportation dept. gives interstate signs their own Brown color instead of green and white!"
I Have Mixed Thoughts about Having a 5th Theme Park for Walt Disney World. If We Will Have One, Then We Will See How it'll go and Hopefully, its Concept Arts will look Exciting just like Universal Epic Universe.
I'm sure it will be exciting, I mean lately it feels like they can only do exciting concept art. Sadly executing that art lately seems to be lackluster and partial
Disney announces stuff and then just cancels them. Play Pavilion? Mary Poppins? The Spaceship Earth rework? They can announce a million things at D23, but how many of them will actually happen? It also takes Disney an ETERNITY to build anything. Epic Universe will be open before Magic Kingdom opens the Pirates of the Carribean lounge they announced.
Disney's use of color science has gone from readability and drawing attention to what is cheapest and most likely to make something blend in. How long before they just start making trash piles and paint them Go Away Green? I mean, the solution to new rides that require large structures is to just put them in line of sight and then paint them Go Away Green and Bye-Bye Blue.
@@WDWNTalso new concept art shows the sanctum as being the entrance queue for the avengers e ticket so many were thinking that’s why they closed the Dr strange show, especially since it was already unionized a while ago.
Once again you Disney haters are drastically over estimating the impact of epic universe to Disney Guarantee that once 2026 comes to an end, magic kingdom will still be the most visited theme park in the world, and you guys will be complaining about how much more expensive it is to go to universal studios
At this point, my bet is with Universal for the next 10 years. The Disney Company is bleeding money in every division except cruiseline and some parks. The only parks that are really making money are WDW and Disneyland. The remainder have either never made a profit or it's been touch and go.
@@mylessmith8059 This isn’t about being a Disney hater this is recognizing that in less than a year Epic Universe is going to open and Super Nintendo land will be one land out of several that will draw people like crazy. Take the emotions out of this and look at it from a business perspective.
Waiting for the Tom Rant about the new Disney DAS, it really needs to be brought out into the light, Disney theme parks in the USA literally went from being one of the most inclusive places in the world, to being the most restrictive in the world for disability access, Disney really needs to be ashamed of themselves for what that are putting people through with some serious disabilities
Apparently Comcast has tons of cash from Disney buying HULU. That Universal has filled some permits to expand Epic Universe and other land around it possibly even another theme park. They now have around 2,000 acres to play with, minus the about 200 acres for Epic.
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on epic universe! From what i've seen, its going to be amazing and well themed! But from your comment of "seeing Mario and another Harry Potter world" i'm sure you have some thoughts not so positive! Love your opinions!
Most of this stuff was already allowed in the prior agreement. The new agreement allows way more office space to be built. Why would Disney need so much office space? Hmmmm, can you say relocate most of the business and possibly the headquarters to Florida!!!!!!!!
Why does this channel keep downplaying Epic Universe… literally every other vlogger and media networks are super excited and understand the gravity of the first new theme park in decades and seeing the preview center and announcements and seeing it come together. Harry Potter is one of the strongest movie franchises in history and the highest grossing theme park IP based on a book or movie series as well so of course they are building another Harry Potter land because they are EXTREMELY popular even to people who have never read the books or movies (you are absolutely entitled to not like this IP as it’s your opinion but is a minority opinion), this is truly the only channel that keeps downplaying Epic to a very large degree for no reason, be excited for it because it is exciting and even though Disney is going to announce a bunch of exciting things coming in the future, that is easily 5-6 years away from being done when Epic is less than a year from being done and will be the center of all theme park news for the next several years
@@WDWNTtrue but anyone that loves and gets excited about Theme Parks can appreciate it, just cause this is the Disney focused channel doesn’t mean we have to downplay the scope, scale and accomplishment of it, there are tons of people that are fans equally of Disney and universal that watch both channels
@@WDWNTWhich has no budget, no decent background, and is ignored in every way possible, even by Universal fans. Just sad. I feel horribly sorry for the woman who has to 'report' on it. She's sadly neglected.
Please no!!! Just add lands and repair rides failing. Four parks is a lot and infrastructure for roads, hotels, and more employees needed is a fail waiting to happen. There is reality and then there is lala land where numbers and practicality don't matter.
I would be okay with a 5th park if the other four would have the same number if attraction as parks like Disneyland (or any other disney parks now that I think of it). Anyway, from the money side, I don't see a plus, would people buy 5 tickets to 5 parks? It would be too much I think. 4 is good and they can maximize them (and maintain then ofc)
As a person with low vision, that blue-on-blue color scheme at the TTC is disappointing. I had to pause the video for a while to even be able to see that there were trash cans in front of the archway. They could at least have made the trash cans light blue with dark blue trim to stand out against the dark blue arch.
WE DONT NEED A 5TH PARK!!!! WE NEED WDW TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS THEY ALREADY HAVE. Hopefully them announcing new things at D23 is a good sign that they are committed to investing into parks that desperately need capacity.
I agree that the old trash can colours are better than the new ones. Not only the colours remind me of EuroDisney from the 90s but also the Disney videos logo. If Walt Disney World is reimagining Journey Into Imagination with Figment I hope they’ll reuse these colours.
Tokyo disneyland: Update Tomorrowland by renovating Space Mountain and build a world's first Wreck It Ralph attraction Disney World: Update trash can and downgrade Communicore.............................
Most of this stuff was already allowed in the prior agreement. The new agreement allows way more office space to be built. Why would Disney need so much office space? Hmmmm, can you say relocate most of the business and possibly the headquarters to Florida!!!!!!!!
My idea for a 5th Park that really could compete with Universals Epic Universe is…. A Pixar Park.. Have lands and attractions for: 1. Monstropolis - A Disney classic dark ride 2. Elemental City - Water roller coaster attraction 3. Radiator Springs - Bring cars land from California and copy it to WDW 4. Inside Out - have a omnimover are attraction with interactive memory and educational on memories 5. Bugs Land - just for the true Disney Adults!! Do a Jazz restraint/lounge for Soul You can have Wall-E going around the park. Most of Pixar films have references within all the movies so they can easily have things roam around all over to keep that continuity alive!
My idea for a 5th park would be Florida themed and maybe have a connection to the Grand Floridian…orange bird, everglades, Mickey and friends go golfing, beach/lakes.. etc. so many old Disney classic movies could fit right in 🤷🏻♀️ just fun to think about!
Hey tom, i have an idea for a new park, it’s a park that focuses on old forgotten and most remembered disney attractions shows and parades from the past, like splash mountain, horizons, world of motion, extraTERRORestrial alien encounter, the great movie ride and maybe even some attractions from disneyland’s past, they’ll be just like the originals but they’ll use today’s technology
I think Disney wants to change too much because a lot of the current staff doesn’t have the creativity and imagination of their predecessors and would rather piggy back on prior creations.
Tom is always talking sense. So many people do not understand that Disney and Universal often have drastically different types of guests. There is some overlap, but most families will not take kids under 10 to Universal parks in Orlando for a lot of days. How to Train Your Dragon may make some progress here, but Disney is full of attractions the whole family can enjoy while Universal has often aimed at having more thrill rides. I agree that Epic is likely going to cannibalize Universal's own parks. The problem is Epic has take a lot of money that could have been invested in their current parks. JP River Adventure is in terrible disrepair and could use the Jurassic World treatment Hollywood got. There is nothing in Lost Continent. Fast and Furious is terrible and will be gone for Horror Nights - and they got rid of two solid attractions for that. Rip Ride Rockit is probably gone. MiB needs a retheme or a lot of work. Simpsons has an expiration date. The Wild Wild West/Fear Factor theater could have had the land put to better use. So while Epic is getting all the nice new stuff, the legacy parks have been neglected. The original plans of turning the Kid Zone area into Super Nintendo World, tearing down the Fear Factor theater and building the Ministry of Magic attraction there, potentially building a Zelda land where Lost Continent is, and maybe thinking about replacing Toon Lagoon with Pokémon (my idea) would have been a much wiser investment. Universal is going to spread themselves thin. Disney is wise to expand the parks they have. There is a lot of land Magic Kingdom could expand to. The plot for Behind Big Thunder is just one. There is more north of Fantasy Land and there is also the space beyond the berm where they had planned Fire Mountain 20+ years ago. There is land for Hollywood Studios to expand. AK has a ton of land to expand into north of Everest and Kali River Rapids. Even Epcot has the Wonder of Life pavilion space, space for another pavilion between The Land and the Seas if they reconfigure some things, and still a good amount of land in World Showcase. Before you ever even consider a new gate, you best make sure the ones you have are SUPERB. Spend the money there first and, if all the parks are in a great state, then that is when you might think about it.
Universal just updated the Kids Zone to a dreamworks land with Shrek, Kung Fu Panda, and Trolls. It looks like a lot of fun for younger kids. I agree they need to put more work into the rest. I’d bet once epic opens they will focus their attention on those areas. I was sad when they closed Poseidon’s fury even if it was cheesy lol. I’m glad my son and nephew got to experience it at least once. Fast and furious is a really bad ride 🫣 but I like MIB
they have already stated they are investing in Islands and Studios after they are done with EPIC, they are just focused in the short term of getting epic done on time (Disney should take note lol) and then focusing resources at Studios and Islands, Universal may not have a D23 type announcement every year but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plans behind the scenes of what is coming down the pipeline, universal is just a constant construction machine
@@adamp2384They won’t invest in them after Epic fails to meet expectation. They are already cutting budget. Remember that Peacock is losing hundreds of millions a year. Cable subscribers are going down. Comcast has more issues than Disney does. You won’t see much at USF or IOA for at least 2-4 years.
@@adamp2384Also their internal surveys are telling them they have a lot of issues with projections for Epic from attendance and resort stays. It is precisely what Tom said. They aren’t taking much from Disney. They’re just moving the shells around. They likely will see only a slight gain next year in attendance between all three parks. This is why they are making pre-emptive cuts and consolidating internally right now. All projects for IOA and Universal Studios are no delayed.
@@MrMac1138 correct delayed from the original time frame which had them already be started at this point to now not starting till after the completion of Epic, which as I stated makes perfect sense to focus all resources on Epics opening, we all can speculate about what attendance is going to be when this park opens but the truth is it has been over 20 years since a new theme park has opened in Florida (not counting Legoland or peppa pig and tourism is up to levels higher than pre pandemic it is safer to say it will be a success than a failure
Attraction Ideas and Poseidon Entertainment have put it well- Disney has not been responsible with capacity in their existing parks. Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios are very low capacity, and Genie+ has ruined the wait times on the lesser rides. Building a 5th theme park would only spread the budget thinner and make capacity per park worse.
The cuts to live entertainment at DCA seems catastrophic. The only reason I could excuse Avengers Campus is because they packed it with live entertainment With the Hyperion dark and cutting atmospheric entertainment from buena vista street and AC, the front half of the park will feel dead
No. Update the current four. Change Galaxy Edge to original trilogy. Change animal kingdom to zootopia. Include descendants and kingdom hearts to Hollywood studios. And add Moana to Epcot.
It's great to have you back, Tom. Not that Eric didn't do a good job, just welcome back. Disney World doesn't need a 5th gate. Like someone said earlier, they just need to fix & maintain what they already have. As for me, I've never visited Universal. I don't know why, it just seems that when I come to Orlando, I just never have the time or desire to go there. I guess I'm too much of a Disney fan. LOL. If I want to go to Universal, it will be to see all the Harry Potter stuff. And maybe I felt that way when it first opened. But it's not a big deal for me now. And all the cuts that Disney seem to do, it just saddens me. These days, I really don't care if I go to Disney World or not. When I did it's because WDWNT had an event that made me want to come down and hang with everyone, like Stage 89. The Disney World of my childhood past, well it's just not the same now. And I guess, I've outgrown Disney. If I am there now, it's because of an event and all the nice lounges in the parks.
It's not how many announcements they give us, It's how many they follow through with!
Mary Poppins Cherry Tree Lane was a big exciting D23 announcement too…..
BOOM! 🎤 drop...😂
BINGO
@@MomcircusI was more interested in the Play Pavilion honestly
This forever.
The whole slashing of entertainment is exhausting. I'm frankly tired of the cost excuse by management to justify cost savings. If management can't afford to take a pay cut or sacrifice a bonus or two, how are cast members supposed to afford pay cuts? Management needs to quit raising prices while slashing needed cast members and maintenance. I can spend my money at Epic Universe, which will be new, AKA not broken yet as opposed to dilapidated WDW/DL.
PAY ATTENTION Disney.
Stop unionizing and these things wouldn't happen.
Or what many families who fly out there have started doing, and flying to Tokyo Disney instead. Not including airfare, it is sooo much cheaper, and they have a ton of entertainment cast members. Three entirely different parades even. WDW doesn’t have any technically. It makes no sense because OLC doesn’t own any of the properties. They have to pay Disney for the licensing, pay imagineers, etc. So they don’t make nearly the same profit margin that Disney does on their parks, and they’re totally fine with it.
To tell you the truth, that’s what we did. I’m flying back home tomorrow. It’s crazy how much more affordable everything was, and everything had that special extra magic to it that domestic Disney lost.
@@UmmYeahOk Hope to make it to Tokyo too someday.
Domestic parks management is shooting themselves in the foot I’ve been adamantly saying this for half a decade now. Their latesr fiasco is everything pertaining to DAS.
Good luck adding comedy in 2024.
I agree about the road signs.
Please Disney Fix your parks! I do not want a 5th park built under current management. It will be so cheap and bad.
I’m gonna miss those trashcans just like I miss those signs. I remember as a kid I didn’t have Google maps and I couldn’t read signs very well, but when I saw those purple signs I knew I was at Disney and it made me so happy.
Also what the heck?! If they take all the entertainment away what are people supposed to do at avengers campus? They’re not exactly there for the scenic buildings. They spent so much money on that Spider-Man animatronic and they’ll just throw it away just to screw over the cast members.
I’d like apples better if they were Corless
😅😅😅dude!, i didn't even watch this. The thumbnail was tooooooo hilarious. Disney can't build a new bathroom in under 2 years. Join us in real-life.
Please, Disney, build one in Mexico so they will go there instead. Disneyland is too overcrowded.
Mexico is a big mess
I saw and called out these entertainment cuts coming the moment news hit about the unionizing being a success. Disney is nothing if not predictable these days in screwing employees
They need to fix the damn parks they have before building new ones. Besides, given what Communicore amd the Poly expansion came out looking like, I expect anything new to just look like an outlet mall with some IP stuck to it.
Tom, I 100% agree with you about the trash cans and road signs and communicore hall but I have to disagree with you about Tiana being equal to Splash.
I know right!
He’s been paid for that.
@@Btn1136 💯
They can’t even maintain the parks they have
Nor can universal or any park, wish they did, but I just want to see new stuff
Have you been to USO or IOA lately? They're falling apart. And yet! 😂
@@imtired1696To be fair I went on MIB and ET today for the first time in 6 months and they looks as good as new to my surprise. Simpsons will most likely be replaced soon and rip ride rockit I believe is being ripped down. Also Poseidons Fury getting replaced and Toon Lagoon's days are probably numbered so Universal is bullish in their future investments too! We all win as long as they fix or replace things eventually.
@@Mochichu-w6b 10 years ago it wasn’t like this. I went last year and it just felt different.
@@clarkh5390 I think that goes for every park and hey, if you actually do think that then ok, I can’t stop you. I just want people to have fun at the park. I wants to be a theme park engineer when I’m older it’s annoying to see people make everything into a battle. You know what I mean. Hope you understand. Just agree to disagree.
Why would they build a new park when they can't even keep both water parks open and close AK at 6pm! Maybe fix this first. I sure am ready to see Big Al and gang again.
They close AK when it gets dark because of the animals.
That's not true. You do know AK Lodge offers a Nighttime safari right? Do you know zoos all over the country offer nighttime events right? Even if they wanted to close Killamenjaro Safaris early they could keep the rest of the park open late.
@donkeydefense Do you really believe that? You think they invested millions in a land filled with bioluminescent props with the intention of no one ever seeing it?
Gee yah think Tom? With Epic opening next year and Disney sitting on their hands all these years?
I hope that plans for a 5th gate is held off until this IP mandate thing loosens heavily. I also still believe they need to improve all the park they do have.
Cant wait to go in 2087! 😊
Build new parks in China only they get free workers from camps behide the park
Disneyland is PACKED and Disney is cutting entertainment? What a dishonor.
Pete has seized control.
I miss the individual trash cans for each land and resort.
Yea no way there will be a 5th WDW park any time soon in the future
Not in our lifetime
They're kind of at that point in the resort where there will always be something they need to do. A refurb. A reno. A redo. I think it would ultimately hurt the resort if they did.
I'm hoping the new Country Bears is good but the last time they tried to do something like this we got Enchanted Tiki Room: Under New Management. 😬
My hope is that Country Bear Jamboree can be restored to its original show at some point. Sadly Splash Mountain will never be able to go back to its former glory the way Disney World's Tiki Room was able to.
Can't stand all the "Disney needs a 5th park to compete" talk. Tom explained all the right reasons. Disney has plenty of room in its current parks to expand and grow. Fantasy Springs is a perfect example of how an almost mini theme park itself, can be added to an existing park. Literally 4 new attractions, dining, and a hotel all added at once.
US Disney parks will NEVER get Fantasy Springs or anything like that. The Oriental Land Company smartly makes sure of that.
Are you Toms sidekick?
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra They wouldn't because Disney spending on other stuff which questions if they bite more than they can chew. They spend so much on building new cruises and buying lands + maintaining ships, no wonder the budget cuts. They overspend on other extra nonsense that could be used on the parks, OLC spends solely on the parks. Now it starts to make sense why there are so many entertainment cuts and project cancellations.
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra it's called an example. Fantasy Springs is owned by OLC and can't be duplicated, but Disney can build an original land, like Villains land, and use the same concepts.
They can't even keep the parks they have fully staffed, maintained, and running at capacity. Rides are down on busy days, restaurants sit empty, shows are closed, and staffing is at below bare minimum levels while their functions are shunted off onto janky phone apps.
Why did they rename the Country Bear Jamboree to Country Bear Musical Jamboree. Doesn't Jamboree already mean Music Jam? The new sign looks cheap and its sad they got rid of the hand carved sign by a Disney legend.
If I see any resorts getting a new park in the next 15 years, it would be Anaheim & Tokyo. Those resorts don't have enough supply for the demand
Right now there are three parks between 45 and 25 years old that are severely lacking in rides/attractions. They can't even fix a Yeti at Animal Kingdom let alone add capacity post-Avatar, the Studios is a thematical mess with little to do outside thrills and shows, and EPCOT has lost its identity and failed to add a country pavilion in decades. At least a decade of post-Iger damage repair is needed before a fifth gate is even considered.
Disney ruin the remaking parks , failed Disney plus , failed in the box office , let’s lose more money by building a fifth park that no one want and can’t afford
They have to improve the crap they already have in their current parks.
A 5th bland and boring DEI theme park is not gonna do it.
I am from the late 90s early 2000s era of Disney parks but have so much love for the past. Everytime I make a trip to Disney I feel as if something from my childhood in the parks have disappeared:(
Same here, been there in 2005, 07 and 08.
Everything apart from Guardians and Pandora seems lost.
Disney's response to the cast members that are now unionized "Okay you want to be unionized okay. You're fired now."
Perfect response
@@maxpower_815 no!
@@RedPandaStan yes
They need a magical photo pass photo of Lari the Armadillo lifting your wallet.
Tom is in his 30s and already getting salty about trash can colors. He’s going to be a blast to listen to when he’s actually an old man. 😂
Maybe he'll be one of those super mellow old men.
30s?!?!? He looks 50!!!!
Why do they not make the NBA experience building a Disney museum? that would be a killer idea
If there’s a fifth park, I’m going to say “Disney Port Adventure” or “Disney’s Lands of Magic” or “ADVENTURE ADVENTURE ADVENTURE ADVENTURE By Disney (Adventure)”
Adventure, Adventure, Adventure! - A Disney Adventure Park Venture
disney's florida adventure
@kermit-operationmisspiggyp8268 I suppose for Florida theming although if they wanted to do a 5th park it would have to be a grandiose scale one similar to Disney Sea and not California Adventure.
@@BoyFlorentin yeah i agree especially to compete with epic universe but a florida style park sounds cool to me as a pass holder
@@kermit-operationmisspiggyp8268 Florida themed park? That was River Country. Including brain eating amoebas.
24:51 what will be left at DCA? The entertainment makes DCA worthwhile. Without it, it’s just rides. They’re making it a half-day park again.
Justice for the Disneyland Resort's Entertainment Department!!
They just started the Spider-Man show!
It's still a half day park with all of those shows lol. None of them are Hyperion-length.
Here’s how Disney can get me back:
- Restore DAS with proof of condition rules
- Make Genie Plus Unlimited
- Reduce costs of food, limited events, hotels
- More roaming characters
- Bring current parks up to standard in terms of maintenance and modern park expectations
- Bring back ‘The Disney Difference’ generally
- Create more park unique characters and attractions, stories
- Bring science and education and wonder back to Epcot.
To name just a few.
That would be AMAZING
Disney World/land is nothing without its live entertainment! As a musician myself this makes me feel really sad. I hope they do plan to replace with different shows.
I agree with Tom about the trash cans. The other ones could be seen. I will bet anyone with low vision will not see them since they are dark!
The Blue color scheme is boring and generic. The World is slowly being erased.
I disagree that more parks are not sustainable, but I also believe massive expansions should happen to the existing parks first as much as possible, and not just remade existing things with slashed budgets.
Personally, I think that before expansions are built they should work on keeping the parks they already have functioning at full capacity.
@@ttintagel Fair, hahaha. But I feel like those things kind of go hand in hand to some extent? But yes, absolutely.
Tiana is literally the definition of a "replacement thats not as good".
It's just as good. People's nostalgia for Splash Mountain is insane. Tiana's has a lot more detail and tricks. It is certainly on par with Splash Mountain.
@@MrMac1138 I disagree, I watched the ride through and it was boring compared to Splash Mountain. Don't forget, the ONLY reason why Splash was changed to Tiana was because people bitched and complained about how the Song of the South film was "racist" and "woke" and instead of Disney saying "We are NOT giving into these complaints!", they just tucked their tails and ran to change the ride like the little spineless cowards they are!
@@GenGamesUniverse People who have actually ridden the ride say the POV video doesn’t do it justice.
I thought Disney changed the theme because they would sell more Tiana merch than Brer merch, since the color Disney cares most about is green.
@@GenGamesUniverseand, oh surprise, the movie isn’t about slaves at all because slavery was abolished at that time the movie happens 😂
When you have to plan your trip months ahead of time it terrible to hear that all the entertainment we were expecting isn’t going to be available. It feels like a bait and switch. We are having a Pixar Fest but buy the time you get here there will be no Pixar just price hikes fest.
I agree with you. Everything is boring, especially Tiana's. Sick of it all.
When I went back in 2010 and 2012, there wasn't anything there that was now - no star wars land, no pixar land, no "mickey and minnies runaway train" ride, no Frozen ever after, no Tron, no Moana etc. IT was all the same as what I remembered it as a child when I visited with my parents in the 1990s except that Horizons, Wonders of Life, Innovations, Universe of Energy and World of Motion were gone.
You and Tom disagree about Tiana’s. He said in his review that he finds it on par with Splash.
We’re just going to end up with the Disney execs doing stand up at Disney land if we carry on at this rate
Imagine being more upset about trash cans getting a paint job, than Splash Mountain being gutted and rethemed in awful ways.
Imagine building a 5th park after replacing great movie ride with mickey and minnies, and the park you replaced a ride in is still short on attractions.
That ride is awesome tho my kids love it!
Maybe not a popular opinion but the Great Movie Ride wasn’t great, certainly not worthy of being the park centerpiece. However we’ll go out of our way to ride MMRR. It just entertains us better
@@DanTheMan1973 cant deny that. My issue isnt about which ride is better. Its the fact that the parks are so crowded and they keep trading one ride for another instead of adding capacity. Lines are crazy ling and people have to pay to skip lines and overplan everything. Disneyland park by comparison has so many e tickets its crazy. Basically magic kingdom and hollywood studios combined, and while they have lightning lane, its completely unnecessary.
@@davidnevolo4402True
Yes! And even the attractions they DO have aren't always all running on any given day! And aren't there still theater buildings in DHS sitting empty with no shows in them?
California adventure would be lifeless without street entertainment... and im not a show guy. Buena vista street neeeeds them. Avengers campus without characters is the most pathetic thing. They cheaped out on a spiderman ride (its horrendous) and spent money on the stuntronic instead... but to cut that too????? Im shocked. Taking the adventure out of california adventure
The fact that entertainment cuts are starting to become more and more likely to happen is genuinely considering for many reasons. I really hope they keep most of those entertainment offers at those parks.
"there is a maximum amount of theme parks this city can handle" OK Tom except the Orlando airport completed a major expansion NOW while Disney has not been adding major capacity for over a decade. Universal is going to take that increased capacity having a park ready to go in the near term as long as they price accordingly. Disney has been public about pricing to turn away capacity growth the market has already been asking for. (even though they are liars about wanting less guests to better the experience).
By the time Disney expansions are complete I would imagine airport capacity just expands further. You have to consider as well the new train options that will encourage locals and tourists from other areas of Florida.
Disney's idea that this is a mature market with limited growth is a big part of the reason they allowed universal to take marketshare away while they underinvested.
The reality is universal identified their competitor was so stupid and greedy raising prices, underbuilding and turning capacity away, that they thought it was worthwhile to buy back land (they had previously sold on a fire sale) for future theme park use and build a whole new park/ associated hotels.
Maybe I could agree that Disney cant support a 5th park for some number of years, but that would be a uniquely Disney problem they created for themselves by underinvesting and giving away marketshare.
Also its kris-thee-lee on pronunciation. His one of the best mandolin players and songwriters alive right now and a good choice by Disney.
Respect if you don't delete this and I do appreciate your takes and enabling a discourse.
Thank you so much for clarifying the Chris Thile pronunciation, he is one of THE greatest living musicians, and I about fell out of my chair realizing he was doing CBJ!
Doesn't matter if they build a new park if it's going to be built like most of their most recent projects.
Build it cheap
Put a photo op in it
Make it lame
13:44 I am very upset about the trashcan color change and the color change of the road signs and etc. the design, research, craft and care that was put into this by sussman prejza co was timeless. The only thing dated about this was faded color and aging. My belief is that all of this could have stayed but just been repainted or refinished.
WDW doesn’t need a fifth park. Rather it needs beefing up of its existing parks. Even after the work Epcot still needs so much. The wonders of life pavilion is empty, your signature ride is in rough shape, half of your country pavilions lack an attraction or film. There’s work to be done with what you’ve got.
Eric is doing a great job but it is nice to see you behind the desk!
It’s about time WDW get some attention and a 5th park sounds great but I’m not holding my breath for that.
Wonder how low the percentage of projects announced at D23 that actually get made? It has to be around 20-25%. 😢
Remember when they announced "New Fantasyland" and everyone moaned in the room collectively? Yeah...I can see that happening again.
Tom, I’m so glad you feel the same way as I do about the TTC trash cans. For some reason Disney trash cans are my special interest and those were one of my favs!
I see you! I think that's awesome that your special interest is the trash cans around the resort. Don't ever let anyone tell you it's weird, because it's cool someone really cares about that stuff. Personally my special interest is all the food, I love reading Disney world menus, even if I don't plan on eating there I ALWAYS pause when I see one in a vlog and "pick" what I'm going to eat, hahaha! I just wanted to say I really liked your comment, hope you have a lovely day.
I miss the Magical Trash blog!
Your feelings about the loss of the purple '80s signs on the property are the same as mine when those replaced the original ones from my childhood. "Holy wow, WDW is so important to us transportation dept. gives interstate signs their own Brown color instead of green and white!"
Tom you are so right. instead of changing the colors of the trash cans do more maintenance on the rides. Doing change for change is dumb.
I Have Mixed Thoughts about Having a 5th Theme Park for Walt Disney World. If We Will Have One, Then We Will See How it'll go and Hopefully, its Concept Arts will look Exciting just like Universal Epic Universe.
I'm sure it will be exciting, I mean lately it feels like they can only do exciting concept art. Sadly executing that art lately seems to be lackluster and partial
So basically no shows in avengers campus.... Great... No point going to that land now.
Disney announces stuff and then just cancels them. Play Pavilion? Mary Poppins? The Spaceship Earth rework? They can announce a million things at D23, but how many of them will actually happen? It also takes Disney an ETERNITY to build anything. Epic Universe will be open before Magic Kingdom opens the Pirates of the Carribean lounge they announced.
Disney's use of color science has gone from readability and drawing attention to what is cheapest and most likely to make something blend in. How long before they just start making trash piles and paint them Go Away Green? I mean, the solution to new rides that require large structures is to just put them in line of sight and then paint them Go Away Green and Bye-Bye Blue.
That was old school Disney, and artist and designer John Hench was the master at color theory.
I glad you are back, Tom.
Not for long 😶
Oh my.
@@WDWNTalso new concept art shows the sanctum as being the entrance queue for the avengers e ticket so many were thinking that’s why they closed the Dr strange show, especially since it was already unionized a while ago.
We have seen and heard about Disney attraction announcements for years. I’ll believe it when I see it. Epic Universe is going to eat Disney’s lunch.
You’re talking like 10 new attraction didn’t open since 2016
@@WDWNTAnd how many of those 10 have been reskinned attractions?
Once again you Disney haters are drastically over estimating the impact of epic universe to Disney
Guarantee that once 2026 comes to an end, magic kingdom will still be the most visited theme park in the world, and you guys will be complaining about how much more expensive it is to go to universal studios
At this point, my bet is with Universal for the next 10 years. The Disney Company is bleeding money in every division except cruiseline and some parks. The only parks that are really making money are WDW and Disneyland. The remainder have either never made a profit or it's been touch and go.
@@mylessmith8059 This isn’t about being a Disney hater this is recognizing that in less than a year Epic Universe is going to open and Super Nintendo land will be one land out of several that will draw people like crazy. Take the emotions out of this and look at it from a business perspective.
the ttc trash cans match the walls on the archway you cant even see them
You knew you were at WDW when you saw the purple signs. Now not so much.
Waiting for the Tom Rant about the new Disney DAS, it really needs to be brought out into the light, Disney theme parks in the USA literally went from being one of the most inclusive places in the world, to being the most restrictive in the world for disability access, Disney really needs to be ashamed of themselves for what that are putting people through with some serious disabilities
There’s been whispers of a 5th gate forever, but instead they just threw ip in wherever they see fit instead of creating a cohesive new space.
Apparently Comcast has tons of cash from Disney buying HULU. That Universal has filled some permits to expand Epic Universe and other land around it possibly even another theme park. They now have around 2,000 acres to play with, minus the about 200 acres for Epic.
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on epic universe! From what i've seen, its going to be amazing and well themed! But from your comment of "seeing Mario and another Harry Potter world" i'm sure you have some thoughts not so positive! Love your opinions!
I wish they would put a Disney park in Missouri since Walt Disney Is from the show me state
Most of this stuff was already allowed in the prior agreement. The new agreement allows way more office space to be built. Why would Disney need so much office space? Hmmmm, can you say relocate most of the business and possibly the headquarters to Florida!!!!!!!!
Why does this channel keep downplaying Epic Universe… literally every other vlogger and media networks are super excited and understand the gravity of the first new theme park in decades and seeing the preview center and announcements and seeing it come together. Harry Potter is one of the strongest movie franchises in history and the highest grossing theme park IP based on a book or movie series as well so of course they are building another Harry Potter land because they are EXTREMELY popular even to people who have never read the books or movies (you are absolutely entitled to not like this IP as it’s your opinion but is a minority opinion), this is truly the only channel that keeps downplaying Epic to a very large degree for no reason, be excited for it because it is exciting and even though Disney is going to announce a bunch of exciting things coming in the future, that is easily 5-6 years away from being done when Epic is less than a year from being done and will be the center of all theme park news for the next several years
We literally have another channel dedicated to Universal news.
@@WDWNTtrue but anyone that loves and gets excited about Theme Parks can appreciate it, just cause this is the Disney focused channel doesn’t mean we have to downplay the scope, scale and accomplishment of it, there are tons of people that are fans equally of Disney and universal that watch both channels
@@WDWNTWhich has no budget, no decent background, and is ignored in every way possible, even by Universal fans. Just sad. I feel horribly sorry for the woman who has to 'report' on it. She's sadly neglected.
You tune into WDWNT when you want trash can talk.
Please no!!! Just add lands and repair rides failing. Four parks is a lot and infrastructure for roads, hotels, and more employees needed is a fail waiting to happen. There is reality and then there is lala land where numbers and practicality don't matter.
I would be okay with a 5th park if the other four would have the same number if attraction as parks like Disneyland (or any other disney parks now that I think of it). Anyway, from the money side, I don't see a plus, would people buy 5 tickets to 5 parks? It would be too much I think. 4 is good and they can maximize them (and maintain then ofc)
Sounds like a woke Country BearJamboree story coming our way Yay. Just what everyone wanted. End sarcasm
So Far, There are Mixed Feelings about Having Josh D'Amaro as Disney's Next CEO.
He’s been awful.
@@davidbradley9469 I Guess You're Right. I Still Don't Get it. Why Does Tom Want Him?
The cuts at DCA are sinful
I can't wait to get my Tiana's Adventure ride evacuation photo!!!!
That ride is pure garbage
As a person with low vision, that blue-on-blue color scheme at the TTC is disappointing. I had to pause the video for a while to even be able to see that there were trash cans in front of the archway. They could at least have made the trash cans light blue with dark blue trim to stand out against the dark blue arch.
WE DONT NEED A 5TH PARK!!!! WE NEED WDW TO MAINTAIN THE PARKS THEY ALREADY HAVE. Hopefully them announcing new things at D23 is a good sign that they are committed to investing into parks that desperately need capacity.
D23 announcement: we’re adding 10 more ships to the fleet! 😡😡😡😡😡
You're still falling for that, huh? D23 has become an embarrassment. And a complete LIE.
. Wdw re themes an existing ride and dis junkies act like it’s a new park. It seems to be all the junkies talk about
There is zero chance of them building a 5th park. They are too cheap and they won’t want to commit to that payroll and staffing.
If they build a fifth park the way they're going the entire thing will be projections on a bedsheet from Target.
I agree that the old trash can colours are better than the new ones. Not only the colours remind me of EuroDisney from the 90s but also the Disney videos logo. If Walt Disney World is reimagining Journey Into Imagination with Figment I hope they’ll reuse these colours.
That map popcorn bucket is incredible.
Tokyo disneyland: Update Tomorrowland by renovating Space Mountain and build a world's first Wreck It Ralph attraction
Disney World: Update trash can and downgrade Communicore.............................
Love the swipes!
Most of this stuff was already allowed in the prior agreement. The new agreement allows way more office space to be built. Why would Disney need so much office space? Hmmmm, can you say relocate most of the business and possibly the headquarters to Florida!!!!!!!!
My idea for a 5th Park that really could compete with Universals Epic Universe is…. A Pixar Park..
Have lands and attractions for:
1. Monstropolis - A Disney classic dark ride
2. Elemental City - Water roller coaster attraction
3. Radiator Springs - Bring cars land from California and copy it to WDW
4. Inside Out - have a omnimover are attraction with interactive memory and educational on memories
5. Bugs Land - just for the true Disney Adults!!
Do a Jazz restraint/lounge for Soul
You can have Wall-E going around the park. Most of Pixar films have references within all the movies so they can easily have things roam around all over to keep that continuity alive!
My idea for a 5th park would be Florida themed and maybe have a connection to the Grand Floridian…orange bird, everglades, Mickey and friends go golfing, beach/lakes.. etc. so many old Disney classic movies could fit right in 🤷🏻♀️ just fun to think about!
It could be called Disney’s Florida Adventure. 👍
Tom will be enjoying the Country Bear Jamboree in Japan this July. Glad to see him doing the news again even if it is only for today. 😊
Hey tom, i have an idea for a new park, it’s a park that focuses on old forgotten and most remembered disney attractions shows and parades from the past, like splash mountain, horizons, world of motion, extraTERRORestrial alien encounter, the great movie ride and maybe even some attractions from disneyland’s past, they’ll be just like the originals but they’ll use today’s technology
"That's a stupendous idea!"
Give me Oswald as the mascot and I’m on board.
@@TMcG8D good idea!!
I always pitch this one as "Nostalgialand for Geezers."
I think Disney wants to change too much because a lot of the current staff doesn’t have the creativity and imagination of their predecessors and would rather piggy back on prior creations.
So great to have you back (for now) Tom!!!!
I wish they would a Disney park else where then in California or Florida.
Welcome back Tom!!
Tom is always talking sense. So many people do not understand that Disney and Universal often have drastically different types of guests. There is some overlap, but most families will not take kids under 10 to Universal parks in Orlando for a lot of days. How to Train Your Dragon may make some progress here, but Disney is full of attractions the whole family can enjoy while Universal has often aimed at having more thrill rides. I agree that Epic is likely going to cannibalize Universal's own parks.
The problem is Epic has take a lot of money that could have been invested in their current parks. JP River Adventure is in terrible disrepair and could use the Jurassic World treatment Hollywood got. There is nothing in Lost Continent. Fast and Furious is terrible and will be gone for Horror Nights - and they got rid of two solid attractions for that. Rip Ride Rockit is probably gone. MiB needs a retheme or a lot of work. Simpsons has an expiration date. The Wild Wild West/Fear Factor theater could have had the land put to better use.
So while Epic is getting all the nice new stuff, the legacy parks have been neglected. The original plans of turning the Kid Zone area into Super Nintendo World, tearing down the Fear Factor theater and building the Ministry of Magic attraction there, potentially building a Zelda land where Lost Continent is, and maybe thinking about replacing Toon Lagoon with Pokémon (my idea) would have been a much wiser investment.
Universal is going to spread themselves thin.
Disney is wise to expand the parks they have. There is a lot of land Magic Kingdom could expand to. The plot for Behind Big Thunder is just one. There is more north of Fantasy Land and there is also the space beyond the berm where they had planned Fire Mountain 20+ years ago. There is land for Hollywood Studios to expand. AK has a ton of land to expand into north of Everest and Kali River Rapids. Even Epcot has the Wonder of Life pavilion space, space for another pavilion between The Land and the Seas if they reconfigure some things, and still a good amount of land in World Showcase.
Before you ever even consider a new gate, you best make sure the ones you have are SUPERB. Spend the money there first and, if all the parks are in a great state, then that is when you might think about it.
Universal just updated the Kids Zone to a dreamworks land with Shrek, Kung Fu Panda, and Trolls. It looks like a lot of fun for younger kids. I agree they need to put more work into the rest. I’d bet once epic opens they will focus their attention on those areas. I was sad when they closed Poseidon’s fury even if it was cheesy lol. I’m glad my son and nephew got to experience it at least once. Fast and furious is a really bad ride 🫣 but I like MIB
they have already stated they are investing in Islands and Studios after they are done with EPIC, they are just focused in the short term of getting epic done on time (Disney should take note lol) and then focusing resources at Studios and Islands, Universal may not have a D23 type announcement every year but that doesn’t mean there aren’t plans behind the scenes of what is coming down the pipeline, universal is just a constant construction machine
@@adamp2384They won’t invest in them after Epic fails to meet expectation. They are already cutting budget. Remember that Peacock is losing hundreds of millions a year. Cable subscribers are going down. Comcast has more issues than Disney does.
You won’t see much at USF or IOA for at least 2-4 years.
@@adamp2384Also their internal surveys are telling them they have a lot of issues with projections for Epic from attendance and resort stays. It is precisely what Tom said. They aren’t taking much from Disney. They’re just moving the shells around. They likely will see only a slight gain next year in attendance between all three parks. This is why they are making pre-emptive cuts and consolidating internally right now. All projects for IOA and Universal Studios are no delayed.
@@MrMac1138 correct delayed from the original time frame which had them already be started at this point to now not starting till after the completion of Epic, which as I stated makes perfect sense to focus all resources on Epics opening, we all can speculate about what attendance is going to be when this park opens but the truth is it has been over 20 years since a new theme park has opened in Florida (not counting Legoland or peppa pig and tourism is up to levels higher than pre pandemic it is safer to say it will be a success than a failure
Attraction Ideas and Poseidon Entertainment have put it well- Disney has not been responsible with capacity in their existing parks. Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios are very low capacity, and Genie+ has ruined the wait times on the lesser rides. Building a 5th theme park would only spread the budget thinner and make capacity per park worse.
The cuts to live entertainment at DCA seems catastrophic. The only reason I could excuse Avengers Campus is because they packed it with live entertainment
With the Hyperion dark and cutting atmospheric entertainment from buena vista street and AC, the front half of the park will feel dead
No. Update the current four. Change Galaxy Edge to original trilogy. Change animal kingdom to zootopia. Include descendants and kingdom hearts to Hollywood studios. And add Moana to Epcot.
It's great to have you back, Tom. Not that Eric didn't do a good job, just welcome back. Disney World doesn't need a 5th gate. Like someone said earlier, they just need to fix & maintain what they already have. As for me, I've never visited Universal. I don't know why, it just seems that when I come to Orlando, I just never have the time or desire to go there. I guess I'm too much of a Disney fan. LOL. If I want to go to Universal, it will be to see all the Harry Potter stuff. And maybe I felt that way when it first opened. But it's not a big deal for me now. And all the cuts that Disney seem to do, it just saddens me. These days, I really don't care if I go to Disney World or not. When I did it's because WDWNT had an event that made me want to come down and hang with everyone, like Stage 89. The Disney World of my childhood past, well it's just not the same now. And I guess, I've outgrown Disney. If I am there now, it's because of an event and all the nice lounges in the parks.
An interesting idea but I know better than to get excited for pie in the sky. Better to be excited that TOM IS BACK at least for awhile.