I loved her so much as a member, and I love her even more as an ex member ❤️ how beautiful to have someone singing the words of your soul even through such heavy changes.
Beautiful interview, beautiful music, beautiful soul. Absolutely loved listening to Mindy speak about her experience leaving the LDS church - a journey I completely resonate with. When she spoke about being an individual who lives her emotions out loud, I really felt that - as soon as I joined the dots and realised the mormon church was built on so many lies, there was no way I could carry on and pretend it was all okay. My personal integrity is so much greater than that. I live my truth out loud and my truth led me away from the mormon church and back to my authentic self.
After 41 years in the church dealing with the betrayal was the hardest thing I'd ever gone through. All the pain, shame, guilt for lying to people on my mission etc. Then to learn that my dad had known all the stuff I learned the whole time and he never told me the truth. I thank God for Matisyahu and his music to get me through that time.
I think that just shows that you are a good human❤ You didn’t know. You thought you were helping people. We do the best we can with what we know at the time.
Lovely, heartfelt story, Mindy. Your description of sitting on the floor after hearing the Fanny Alger story in a pile - man, such an honest reaction. Thanks for sharing!
Wow, so inspiring to know that someone so talented and accomplished was not accepted to so many programs and yet continued forward in resourceful ways... Allowing rejections to "feed a little fire"... A genuine love for music and for connecting with people is an amazing motivation, in addition to that fire. This is what I need to hear during a difficult time in my life.
That really hit me that even after leaving the faith, the THOUGHT of confronting her parents had her shaking. I can't fathom why an association with any group or institution would be worth stirring up that kind of fear and anxiety in your own children. Mine are adults now, but I sure hope I'm not having any associations or attitudes that would make my kids ever feel like that. If I am, I sure hope I recognize it.
I’m back to finish the interview and it just breaks my heart how we all go through the same pain. I loved what John said “put the genie back in the bottle” I’m actually wondering about that. But I don’t think I can.
I agree. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it ain’t going back in. Currently going through it rn. I told my wife and told her I feel like I’m in the matrix and I discovered the red pill and that it’s a matrix. Part of me wishes I could go back to living in ignorance and bliss bc living outside the matrix is scary, but the journey is required once you decide that face the fact that your reality isn’t what is has been presented to you as abs once you take the rest pill and learn this stuff.
Listening to many ExMo (like myself) its recurring how we used the same terminology: "It didn't add up", "it wasn't just one thing"; "I felt heartbroken over it". People that is still an active member of the church has no idea how hard it is to go along with what one feels its a massive eye opening. Never heard of Mindy, now I'm a new fan.
I love this Mormon Story so much. I knew of Mindy's Anchor song and it's one of my favorite songs in general, but to now know that she grew up Mormon and then managed to get out to lead her own life... is so awesome. AND on top of that, she's made a beautiful album about her journey which, truly, all the songs are just... nice to listen to, faithful or not! I find myself listening to the Rabbit Hole album constantly, now, especially as I draw artwork. Congrats on breaking free, Mindy.
The same questions happen outside the mormon church. I Was the breadwinner whilst I lived with my fathers daughter I was the breadwinner as he was disabled but was able to look after our daughter. I too was sensitive to comments from so called friends and neighbours. My work opportunities were not in my local town. I left Bedford (United Kingdom) as soon as we had things sorted after separation and she went to university. I have not looked back.
I first learned about Fanny Alger twelve years ago. I found ways to rationalize it because I simply could not believe that my "Holy Ghost" testimony was not true after all. It took years of pile-up shocking information to make me realize that the church was a sham. Jeff Lindsay's Web Site could no longer help me to hold on to my faith. I left the LDS church forever, four years ago.
Lilli Gibson How can you keep your faith after you hear a story like that fanny Alger 14 years old Joseph lied in the Mormons still go back to the Mormon religion I don’t get it it’s not Faith it’s not believe it’s Ally
Towards the end of my mission I had something that just click about the church and decided not to stay at the church. I don't go to the church anymore, unfortunately lots of members that were friends don't talk to me anymore. I respect their belief, my family is still active is not my job to mess with their beliefs I think is a personal choice.
Much love to sister Mindy 🙏❤️ All i can think of is "Endure to the End", im grateful that these words have been repeated through out my life. Enduring to the End means going through it all but yet clinging on to the Iron rod. Going through the motions is ok! I go through the motions a lot as an active member, but i also know what it means to Endure to the End 🙂 God bless Sister Gledhill and Anyone having doubtful moments of the Church. No matter what, the Gospel is true, it is real, and the Blessings here after are rea! 😁 Join me, as i am "hanging in there"...we will see Father again, and we can get answers now, or hold them out till "that day". God bless us all 🙏🤙🏽❤️
I am finding going through tis at the age of 77:and my husband in care with dementia.Here I sit wondering what is in store for me on the other side.Holdingon to the fact that my children and I will be together. My marriage has been crap most of the time,so it does not bother me in that respect.I hate that I have been betrayed.🌹
sometimes the church doesn't work for some people and as a member, I can still respect mindy's decision. but for me, the church of jesus christ of latter day saints has brought me so much joy. PLEASE come visit us
How can people listen to what Mindy has to say and then say we still love the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints how can you still do that get lied to year after year and that’s OK we still like it unbelievable Maybe it comes down to ignorance and arrogance
Every so often you see an ex-mo that makes you think F I need to up my game. Very inspirational! Make art out of disease. Beautiful quite exquisitely beautiful!
New to this channel and love the interview with Mindy. I am just waking up to the truths but still love the music from church. Is it okay to still listen to it?
@@kristaward-sell918 for me, it's taken a couple months to start getting those songs out of my head and heart. I'm realizing the toxic messages they've carried into my thoughts, values, and goals. They do remain attached to powerful and meaningful memories so.. we figure it out one day at a time. Enjoy them while you can.
Absolutely!! There are no rules to this thing, dear. Keep what you love, leave what you don’t. I’m no longer active but I still listen to “consider the lilies” from time to time.
NoStoppingit7 You are a Mormon apologist, keeping the lies of JSmith (witch is worse). What do You have to say now that the CES letters are available ? What do your have to say now that the Gospel topic essays have been put and approved by the first presidency in LDS.org (showing that those who got excommunicated for telling the truth were right ? If Oliver Cowdery was a liar he could not had been as evil as J Smith was. Put as much zeal digging in church history to seek for the truth as you do to promote lies, by the way you won't have to use anti-Mormon literature just use "history of the church" "journal of discourses", the journal of J Smith etc....
@@nostoppingit7827 if you believe your "research" establishes Joseph Smith did not institute plural marriage for the LDS church you are either grossly ill informed or straight up delusional. OR you attempt to deceive others. Read D&C for starters. Just what exactly do you think JS was threatening Emma with destruction over?!?! He, leading her to believe it came from Jesus Christ, told her she would be destroyed if she did not accept the "commandment" which was for JS to practice the "eternal" covenant of plural marriage. I don't know how old you are, but those of my generation were well aware it all started with Joseph Smith; it was a known and accepted reality, and we were taught it was an eternal principle that would one day again be practiced (as distasteful or distressing as some of us found it). But really, who cares which guy started it; it's a sinful. shameful reality of early mormon history that was promoted and practiced beginning with the top leaders of the church. But yes, it MOST DEFINITELY, began with Joseph Smith. Himself.
Roland V it has different meaning for me. It reminds me of the MTC and my mission. Even though I left the church after my mission (the religion is based on lies and founded by a con man) I have mostly fond memories of my Mormon upbringing.
I am tormented by how many think that grace offered Jesus must not be real, simply because they realized that what Joseph's Myth added to the real truth of the Bible is a farce.
Interesting, I didn't know that Smith married F Alger before the sealing and eternal marriage ordinances, any resources I can read about this, because it solidifies my understanding of all this that we go through.
I dont know if he "married" her or if she became his spiritual wife, which was a cool trick you can do as the one true prophet of God. Telling young impressionable girls that they get to have secret sex or go to hell.
@@nostoppingit7827 isn't it great when the church denies that Joe was a polygamist for decades. Faithful members defend him with silly arguments and then the church publishes on their website that Joseph Smith Junior and Fanny Alger were married!? It's kinda like, WOW! Did the leadership know this all along and hid it or did the modern prophets not see the truth? Read LDS.org it says they were married. You decide if lds.org is a reliable source. www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng
"Little is known about this marriage, and nothing is known about the conversations between Joseph and Emma regarding Alger. After the marriage with Alger ended in separation, Joseph seems to have set the subject of plural marriage aside until after the Church moved to Nauvoo, Illinois." I don't believe this article covers the issue completely in an effort to save face by the church. But it vindicates poor Oliver Cowdry. I hope the bus he was thrown under didn't hurt him too badly.
… Many. therefore of disciples, when they heard this, said, this is a hard saying. who can hear it?… Jesus...said unto them, doth this offend you...From that time many of his disciples went back and walked no more with him.
Condemning LDS is itself a cult and religion, almost all of which is centered on Joseph Smith being a polygamist and his relationship with Fanny Alger. First of all polygamy and marriage is not something that the government has any right to dictate - it's a matter of liberty and freewill. If people want to be in a polygamist marriage so be it - who cares - it's THEIR life not yours. As for Fanny, the marriage age used to be lower up until very recently in history. If you think a 14 year old being married or giving birth is somehow wrong, then go ahead and condemn God who immaculately conceived Mary when she was 14. And go ahead and put numerous famous historical figures on the sex offender registry who had wives under age 18. All these criticisms of Mormons are weak, fueled by hate and resentment from ex-members who have an axe to grind because they chose not to live by the standards of the church.. Judge a church by the fruit of its works - the LDS church provides much humanitarian work in the world, their organization is patterned perfectly after the original church, their communities are strong and they stand up for higher moral integrity. Those who have problems with this have been manipulated and deceived by the satanic Babylon system which has infiltrated every aspect of our society and culture. If you don't want to live by LDS standards then leave and go be part of babylon, but spending all your energy trying to convince others it is wrong says more about you than the church.
I loved her so much as a member, and I love her even more as an ex member ❤️ how beautiful to have someone singing the words of your soul even through such heavy changes.
Same. I remember being so personally offended she left as if she was attacking me🤦♀️ now I'm exmo hahaha
Beautiful interview, beautiful music, beautiful soul. Absolutely loved listening to Mindy speak about her experience leaving the LDS church - a journey I completely resonate with. When she spoke about being an individual who lives her emotions out loud, I really felt that - as soon as I joined the dots and realised the mormon church was built on so many lies, there was no way I could carry on and pretend it was all okay. My personal integrity is so much greater than that. I live my truth out loud and my truth led me away from the mormon church and back to my authentic self.
I saw her live in 2015 with a Mormon family I was visiting the church with. I’m so happy to see her after deconstructing!
I love Mindy's music. I admire her courage and strength to be honest and vulnerable.
After 41 years in the church dealing with the betrayal was the hardest thing I'd ever gone through. All the pain, shame, guilt for lying to people on my mission etc. Then to learn that my dad had known all the stuff I learned the whole time and he never told me the truth. I thank God for Matisyahu and his music to get me through that time.
One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain.
I think that just shows that you are a good human❤ You didn’t know. You thought you were helping people. We do the best we can with what we know at the time.
Lovely, heartfelt story, Mindy. Your description of sitting on the floor after hearing the Fanny Alger story in a pile - man, such an honest reaction. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Mindy. You have a very sweet spirit and incredible insight.
Lovely Lady and great interview and music.
Wow, so inspiring to know that someone so talented and accomplished was not accepted to so many programs and yet continued forward in resourceful ways... Allowing rejections to "feed a little fire"... A genuine love for music and for connecting with people is an amazing motivation, in addition to that fire. This is what I need to hear during a difficult time in my life.
Beautiful voice and songs. I can relate to her story so much.
Mindy Gledhill is "by far" our families favorite musician ... we love her music sooo much :)
Loved her music
Mindy is a lovely person.
That really hit me that even after leaving the faith, the THOUGHT of confronting her parents had her shaking. I can't fathom why an association with any group or institution would be worth stirring up that kind of fear and anxiety in your own children. Mine are adults now, but I sure hope I'm not having any associations or attitudes that would make my kids ever feel like that. If I am, I sure hope I recognize it.
I’m back to finish the interview and it just breaks my heart how we all go through the same pain. I loved what John said “put the genie back in the bottle” I’m actually wondering about that. But I don’t think I can.
luv_nane28
Me too💔💔😪
I feel you pain but there is light at the end of the tunnel. It does get better!❤😊
I agree. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it ain’t going back in. Currently going through it rn. I told my wife and told her I feel like I’m in the matrix and I discovered the red pill and that it’s a matrix. Part of me wishes I could go back to living in ignorance and bliss bc living outside the matrix is scary, but the journey is required once you decide that face the fact that your reality isn’t what is has been presented to you as abs once you take the rest pill and learn this stuff.
Thank you to Mindy for your bravery, integrity, and vulnerability and to John for creating this space for expression.
The exact feeling I had!!! The floor disappearing underneath you, and being swallowed up by an abyss of darkness. Most terrifying moment !
Listening to many ExMo (like myself) its recurring how we used the same terminology: "It didn't add up", "it wasn't just one thing"; "I felt heartbroken over it". People that is still an active member of the church has no idea how hard it is to go along with what one feels its a massive eye opening. Never heard of Mindy, now I'm a new fan.
I love this Mormon Story so much. I knew of Mindy's Anchor song and it's one of my favorite songs in general, but to now know that she grew up Mormon and then managed to get out to lead her own life... is so awesome. AND on top of that, she's made a beautiful album about her journey which, truly, all the songs are just... nice to listen to, faithful or not! I find myself listening to the Rabbit Hole album constantly, now, especially as I draw artwork. Congrats on breaking free, Mindy.
The same questions happen outside the mormon church. I Was the breadwinner whilst I lived with my fathers daughter I was the breadwinner as he was disabled but was able to look after our daughter. I too was sensitive to comments from so called friends and neighbours. My work opportunities were not in my local town. I left Bedford (United Kingdom) as soon as we had things sorted after separation and she went to university. I have not looked back.
I first learned about Fanny Alger twelve years ago. I found ways to rationalize it because I simply could not believe that my "Holy Ghost" testimony was not true after all. It took years of pile-up shocking information to make me realize that the church was a sham. Jeff Lindsay's Web Site could no longer help me to hold on to my faith. I left the LDS church forever, four years ago.
@@joestim8707 just know that we miss you and love you. I'm sorry you lost your faith
Lilli Gibson How can you keep your faith after you hear a story like that fanny Alger 14 years old Joseph lied in the Mormons still go back to the Mormon religion I don’t get it it’s not Faith it’s not believe it’s Ally
@@joestim8707 I just prayed for you. I have lost my faith in Mormonism forever, but I still have faith in God.
You’re beautiful Mindy. Love your music.
The Truth shall set you free.
thanks mindy your story means so much for me
OMGGG I LOVE MINDY
Towards the end of my mission I had something that just click about the church and decided not to stay at the church. I don't go to the church anymore, unfortunately lots of members that were friends don't talk to me anymore. I respect their belief, my family is still active is not my job to mess with their beliefs I think is a personal choice.
Much love to sister Mindy 🙏❤️
All i can think of is "Endure to the End", im grateful that these words have been repeated through out my life. Enduring to the End means going through it all but yet clinging on to the Iron rod.
Going through the motions is ok! I go through the motions a lot as an active member, but i also know what it means to Endure to the End 🙂
God bless Sister Gledhill and Anyone having doubtful moments of the Church.
No matter what, the Gospel is true, it is real, and the Blessings here after are rea! 😁
Join me, as i am "hanging in there"...we will see Father again, and we can get answers now, or hold them out till "that day". God bless us all 🙏🤙🏽❤️
I am finding going through tis at the age of 77:and my husband in care with dementia.Here I sit wondering what is in store for me on the other side.Holdingon to the fact that my children and I will be together. My marriage has been crap most of the time,so it does not bother me in that respect.I hate that I have been betrayed.🌹
Elaine. We will all be together again! See you there sister.
great music
sometimes the church doesn't work for some people and as a member, I can still respect mindy's decision. but for me, the church of jesus christ of latter day saints has brought me so much joy. PLEASE come visit us
How can people listen to what Mindy has to say and then say we still love the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints how can you still do that get lied to year after year and that’s OK we still like it unbelievable Maybe it comes down to ignorance and arrogance
Solikepink * So tell me what are his commandments
Every so often you see an ex-mo that makes you think F I need to up my game. Very inspirational! Make art out of disease. Beautiful quite exquisitely beautiful!
wow Fantastic musicians! exquisite.
New to this channel and love the interview with Mindy. I am just waking up to the truths but still love the music from church. Is it okay to still listen to it?
@@kristaward-sell918 for me, it's taken a couple months to start getting those songs out of my head and heart. I'm realizing the toxic messages they've carried into my thoughts, values, and goals. They do remain attached to powerful and meaningful memories so.. we figure it out one day at a time. Enjoy them while you can.
Absolutely!! There are no rules to this thing, dear. Keep what you love, leave what you don’t. I’m no longer active but I still listen to “consider the lilies” from time to time.
My understanding is Joseph had sex with Fanny BEFORE marrying her; he was caught in the act, out in the barn
@@nostoppingit7827 misinformation?
The crimes are literally endless...
Fanny is just one
@@nostoppingit7827 abortion.
@@nostoppingit7827 hmmm. Sounds like one of the guys involved in the production of the book of mormon was a liar.
Which one?
NoStoppingit7 You are a Mormon apologist, keeping the lies of JSmith (witch is worse). What do You have to say now that the CES letters are available ? What do your have to say now that the Gospel topic essays have been put and approved by the first presidency in LDS.org (showing that those who got excommunicated for telling the truth were right ? If Oliver Cowdery was a liar he could not had been as evil as J Smith was.
Put as much zeal digging in church history to seek for the truth as you do to promote lies, by the way you won't have to use anti-Mormon literature just use "history of the church" "journal of discourses", the journal of J Smith etc....
@@nostoppingit7827 if you believe your "research" establishes Joseph Smith did not institute plural marriage for the LDS church you are either grossly ill informed or straight up delusional. OR you attempt to deceive others. Read D&C for starters. Just what exactly do you think JS was threatening Emma with destruction over?!?! He, leading her to believe it came from Jesus Christ, told her she would be destroyed if she did not accept the "commandment" which was for JS to practice the "eternal" covenant of plural marriage.
I don't know how old you are, but those of my generation were well aware it all started with Joseph Smith; it was a known and accepted reality, and we were taught it was an eternal principle that would one day again be practiced (as distasteful or distressing as some of us found it).
But really, who cares which guy started it; it's a sinful. shameful reality of early mormon history that was promoted and practiced beginning with the top leaders of the church.
But yes, it MOST DEFINITELY, began with Joseph Smith. Himself.
rabbit hole: bind, box, corner, dilemma, fix, hole, impasse, jam, mire, pickle, predicament, quagmire, rattrap, spot, sticky wicket, swamp
I miss the “Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing” intro music you used to play.
luomio no I am not because it made me sad every time, because of the things that I had lost.
Roland V it has different meaning for me. It reminds me of the MTC and my mission. Even though I left the church after my mission (the religion is based on lies and founded by a con man) I have mostly fond memories of my Mormon upbringing.
luomio I understand.
where can I buy her album Rabbit Hole? Just lovely and healing.
mindygledhill.com
I love your music!! I looked for your earlier podcast but can’t seem to find them. What number are they?
597-598: Mindy and Dustin Gledhill, and their New Project - Hive Riot
599: Mindy Gledhill Discusses her Mormon Faith Transition
Wow, Downtown Provo!? I wonder how many BYU Mormons were there 😅
I am tormented by how many think that grace offered Jesus must not be real, simply because they realized that what Joseph's Myth added to the real truth of the Bible is a farce.
WHOO HOO go big families
I got to admit i dont watch mormonstories actively but did you greet as shawn/sean Dehlin? Isnt it John? at 00:35
Interesting, I didn't know that Smith married F Alger before the sealing and eternal marriage ordinances, any resources I can read about this, because it solidifies my understanding of all this that we go through.
I dont know if he "married" her or if she became his spiritual wife, which was a cool trick you can do as the one true prophet of God. Telling young impressionable girls that they get to have secret sex or go to hell.
@@nostoppingit7827 isn't it great when the church denies that Joe was a polygamist for decades. Faithful members defend him with silly arguments and then the church publishes on their website that Joseph Smith Junior and Fanny Alger were married!? It's kinda like, WOW! Did the leadership know this all along and hid it or did the modern prophets not see the truth? Read LDS.org it says they were married. You decide if lds.org is a reliable source. www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng
"Little is known about this marriage, and nothing is known about the conversations between Joseph and Emma regarding Alger. After the marriage with Alger ended in separation, Joseph seems to have set the subject of plural marriage aside until after the Church moved to Nauvoo, Illinois." I don't believe this article covers the issue completely in an effort to save face by the church. But it vindicates poor Oliver Cowdry. I hope the bus he was thrown under didn't hurt him too badly.
@@nostoppingit7827 did I say that I doubt the source? So, you disagree with the official church position on Fanny Alger and Joseph Smith?
What is that red keyboard/guitar thingy she is playing on the 3rd song?
It's called a keytar. My favorite singer (Lights) used to play one at her shows.
"Lines" did it for me. . . . . candie-coated . . . . LIES . . . . . (speak truth to power).
… Many. therefore of disciples, when they heard this, said, this is a hard saying. who can hear it?… Jesus...said unto them, doth this offend you...From that time many of his disciples went back and walked no more with him.
Condemning LDS is itself a cult and religion, almost all of which is centered on Joseph Smith being a polygamist and his relationship with Fanny Alger. First of all polygamy and marriage is not something that the government has any right to dictate - it's a matter of liberty and freewill. If people want to be in a polygamist marriage so be it - who cares - it's THEIR life not yours. As for Fanny, the marriage age used to be lower up until very recently in history. If you think a 14 year old being married or giving birth is somehow wrong, then go ahead and condemn God who immaculately conceived Mary when she was 14. And go ahead and put numerous famous historical figures on the sex offender registry who had wives under age 18. All these criticisms of Mormons are weak, fueled by hate and resentment from ex-members who have an axe to grind because they chose not to live by the standards of the church.. Judge a church by the fruit of its works - the LDS church provides much humanitarian work in the world, their organization is patterned perfectly after the original church, their communities are strong and they stand up for higher moral integrity. Those who have problems with this have been manipulated and deceived by the satanic Babylon system which has infiltrated every aspect of our society and culture. If you don't want to live by LDS standards then leave and go be part of babylon, but spending all your energy trying to convince others it is wrong says more about you than the church.
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It's a myth about marriage age. It was disgusting even then!