How You Can Live Forever... Maybe.
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Cryonics is the practice of preserving a dead body or brain, in the hope of reanimation. But no one knows if that will ever happen!
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Rich people: Cryonics
Poor people: Cry on it
you can actually pay the $200k with life insurance
so the cost is not 'too bad'
Say that whenever somebody is brought back.
@@therearenoshortcuts9868 ermm ackshually 🤓 the 200k is for a duck, not a hooman.
Save money.
Most people's problem is that they don't save enough
Remember, the past and current cryogenics companies are scams to move money from the mega rich to the not That rich. Unplugging the machines when moving them, or when the electric bill is too high, is common practice. There is no real plans to taw the buried. The coolants used have been comical. It’s a sci-fi dream sold to to gullible with money. And I’m here for it. It May work in the future, but the businesses currently are about selling a dream, not something that can work. We know it does not. For future possibly working models the tech needs to be fundamentally reworked from the start, not just the end.
This video just made me realize that finding the cure to death isn't the problem. It's the likelihood of whatever business you choose will still be open.
Love ur pfp btw
There was a case where a cryonics pod lost power and when they discovered it, there was just a slushy mush of human brain (or brains? can't remember if it was multiple people) at the bottom...
@@MySmileStillStaysOn 😬that's my thought of will happen
@@MySmileStillStaysOn That can't be correct. The dewars that cryonics patients are stored in don't use electricity at all.
There were cases in the wild early days of cryonics in the 1960s, before perpetual funding models were developed, where mom & pop organizations went under and patients thawed with grisly results. However, that simply isn't cryonics organizations are built and funded anymore, and hasn't been in about 40 years.
Yeah like people just don't wanna end up paying lots of money to people who won't take care of them and value and respect their sacrifice. I don't trust people
I can imagine you’re chilling in heaven and you get sucked back to earth on some random Tuesday
lol
Unless heaven isn’t real and you were just a non-existent being for that time
@@Tomago9387 no you wrong heaven is real
@@user-ti3ks4lt4s every religion says that buddy.
Nah more like hell, that's the case for most of us
Duck - the most passionate volunteer ever
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I want to be in cryogenic hibernation by the time I’m 25-30
@@LuciferMorningstarsWife69 what if u dont wake up and dont even realize u are dead
Ducks will be the new meta
he's so cute :p
The damage caused by the process is about as bad and systemic as the damage caused by aging. If you have the ability to bring someone back from that state, you’ve likely cured every disease we’ve ever faced, aging included.
Actually as a side note it’s kinda crazy, medics that slow down the aging process tremendously are probably coming to markets earlier than you might think. Not that I actually think it’s a good idea but science made huge steps recently in that field. If you do some research you can find a lot of serious studies on that.
Can you use some information from the brain to "reconstruct" anything out of it as software, at least?
@@jongyon7192p Assuming it was preserved, I don’t see why not. If you can’t then you’re not really bringing anybody back, you’re just using bodies as scrap to make new humans. Which is probably more expensive than the usual way.
The same was said when someone’s heart stopped beating.
We now know that someone with a heart that has stopped beating can be brought back.
There’s no knowing what will be discovered and found out. But theres a chance it is discovered, the main issue I foresee for this is the lack of motivation to bring back ‘newly dead’ (preserved) people.
@@turtlecat3507 Right, once the corporation in question has milked tens of thousands of people of their money, and are starting to face maintenance costs on their cryo facilities that are only ever increasing, their incentive to cash out and walk away increases precipitously.
At a certain point in the future, they will walk away from their company with most of the money, and/or it will go bankrupt, and all the corpses will have to be disposed of by the civil entities of that time and place by whatever method seems most appropriate. Given the short term profit motives of modern capitalist industries the time horizon for this process should be expected to be quite short.
"Pay and die"
Basically today's marketing
They just charge you to do what you're already doing for nothing
That's just being alive.
P2D
@@kromb5952 Now we got 5 of them:
P2W - Pay to win
P2L - Pay to lose
P2PM - Pay to pay more
P2P - pay to play
P2D - pay to die
The true question is: would anyone in the future want you back? 😂
Who cares the whole point is to experience a new beginning
@@manyord7089No, he means will anyone want to bring you back to life at all, or just leave you in the cryo tube
I want people who I've never met, so yeah
No, truthfully, most people don't realize that the people spending money on this now are the super rich. The super rich of the past would not be liked by the super rich of the present. By the time money is spent at high enough levels in medical research to raise the dead, we would have eaten up the rich. The super rich of the future would not want the super rich of today. Cryogenics is a scam of one rich group eating the other.
Historians would love to learn about past cultures, but the question is do we really want to give everything that we own and love to go in an unknown Future?
Well, you're paying the company to preserve you, you're not paying anyone to revive you
Imagine waking up in the future and getting an average American medical bill for the reanimation procedure
@@ajh3461 imagine you only wake up if they check and you still have a high enough credit rating to afford the medical loan that they saddle you with for the medical treatment.
@@ajh3461 I hope it won't exist in the future.
@@ajh3461 You assume capitalism will be the default in the future :D
@@snarkyalyx It probably will. Out of the three big economic systems, capitalism is the most efficient.
In both socialism and communism, you're basically giving power to governments, and if history means anything, giving a group of people a lot of power means that they will abuse it. It all depends on which system you want to become poor in, because there will always be rich people, no matter the system.
The best economic system in my opinion is a mix of capitalism and socialism, because giving equal power to the people and government means that they balance out. There will always be rich and poor people, though, which is something you can't really fix.
Cryonics feels like the biggest scam ever, you're paying an insane amount for the very slim chance that you could be reasurrected in the future, like there is zero guarantee that you're paying for anything more than being chucked in a freezer after death
Edit: Did everyone collectively forget about wills? Like a buncha people keep commenting 'what are you gonna do with your money when your dead', uhhhh leave it to my loved ones????
Are you idiotic or of bad faith ?
THATS THE WHOLE POINT ! Would you rather have a definitive ineluctable destony or having at least a 0,00000001 chance of avoiding it ? Do you understand that even the slimest chance is better than no chance at all ?? Second if your body is truly perfectly or mostly preserved you could in theory wait all the time that is needed anyway so who cares ?
Second you know that you arent forced to do it right away you can live a bit before doing it right ?
But also that people waste their lives and money and ressources for things way stupidier and way more useless right ?
You also understand that what is important or useless for you isn't the general case for everyone.
And third to finish you know that you have alot of way to pay for this kind of shit even more if you think about it in a young age too.
I mean what other options do you have right now?
Slowing aging? Even more expensive, but worth a try probably.
You can have guaranteed eternal life, but not trough human means, trough putting your faith in Jesus Christ, The Son of God who suffered the worst death ever so we could have eternal life just by having true, genuine faith in Him. John 3:16:”For God so loved the world so He gave He’s only begotten Son, so whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life”. Eternal life is a serious and real matter.
@@tibid6087😐
@@tibid6087 Cool story. Prove its true. Don't assert its true, prove it's true. ..
imagine waking up in 3,000 years and the last thing you remember was laying in a bed with no electricity in 1600
that'd be crazy
Absolutely TWEAKIN out bro 😂😂😂😂
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@@DuolingoWrathbro thinks he's the sigma
@@user-hi3im1et5w Cuh what?
After all the work that these birds went through, Kurzgesagt definitely needs to give them a raise 😭
If they can afford a $200,000 ice coffin then they probably don’t, lol.
they should have paid more to the bird who got destoyed by nukes and gamma rays, tough work
they don't need a raise if they are frozen
Props to the camera man for recording that long too.
@@TheBrickPerson props to him for surviving too
I’ve always found it so funny that we know how to put people into cryo but haven’t figured out the process of taking them out 😂😂
I mean, it's super easy to freeze something organic, you can literally do it at home. But say in the case of vegetables, as an example, freezing and then thawing them out ruined the structural integrity of the vegetable and left you with mush (because of the formation of ice crystals like they mention in the video). It wasn't until 1924 that Clarence Birdseye (yes, Birdseye like that company sells frozen foods at grocery stores) invented flash freezing to quickly freeze foods which prevents the formation of ice crystals allowing them retain their freshness after being thawed out. However, humans are not vegetables and are much much more complex (especially considering frozen vegetables are just the fruit of the plant and not the entire plant so they're not "alive" like a whole plant or human would be).
There is a book, "We Are Legion (We Are Bob)" about a guy who gets his brain frozen and wakes up a hundred years later to learn he is the property of a government which is planning to turn him into a probe to explore the galaxy. Great series.
indeed, cant wait for part 5 to come out soon.
That's an adventure I would sign up for... I mean, either way I would be dead without being frozen, so getting to do some work for a DLC extension might be more fun than hell...
soon as i saw this short i was looking for this comment, really good book
A World Out Of Time is a book written by Larry Niven in 1976 that is this premise 🙃
@@kepler_22b83oh boy! u are gonna have one hell of a existential crisis. 😂
Imagine if the company gets bankrupt 💀
Think it actually happened a couple of times. The remains ended up being buried. Don't expect any company to last even decades into the future.
Which it will. Suppose it take 300 years to invent the technology necessary. You really think you can keep your company going that long?
CryoRus in Moscow got into long conflict between founders, at some point one group of them tried to steel cryo barrels, during the chase they threw away some of them with graphic remains of human brains on the highway
Have you ever watched Idiocracy?
Money wasted 💀
I watched as the scientists celebrated the first succsseful cryogenic test on a human.
They didnt realize that I was still conscious
Edit: if yall get this to atleast 1k I'll do part 2 im really lazy idk something.
2 phrase horror story.
@@Kaazeda Yes
Sheesh. 😳
Not even yours
Not only can you try cryogenics but there is also a head transplant surgery performed by AI and robots from BrainBridge that joins your head to another person's body and is said to be able to extend your lifespan as your brain is one of the organs that can live the longest perhaps centuries I believe. Imagine how that would feel like...
Cryonics STONKS 📈
????
Nice meme !
Infinite money 🤑🤑🤑
My fridge can already possess the same abilities as cryonics. In fact, 15 people have tested it and found it beneficial
Влаштуйся на роботу, отримай життя, більше жартів немає
український хлопець!!!
"You wouldn't upload a brain."
has the same energy as
"You wouldn't download a car."
Tis called a reference
Maybe watch Pantheon if you want to see a show about uploading brains
*Exagerately badass riff playing*
thatsthejoke.jpg
"You wouldn't duplicate a life-threatening disease. You wouldn't duplicate a kestrel." - David Firth, "Cream"
This was huge a few decades back.
this is genius and no one realized it
Jesus?
The company: *_*goes bankrupt and dissolves*_*
The frozen bodies in their storage unit:🥶🥶
That hasn't been a concern in 50 years. For the organization I'm signed up with (the Alcor Life Extension Foundation), the company that signs people up and performs cryopreservation is a separate legal and financial entity from the Alcor Patient Care Trust, which is the organization that maintains the people in cryosuspension and, technology permitting, eventually have them revived.
If ALEF went out of business tomorrow, it would suck for those of us who are still walking around, but it wouldn't affect the people currently in suspension at all. The Patient Care Trust owns the facility outright, and the cost to maintain the patients is very low. The Trust is sitting on a pile of money that's managed very conservatively and generates more money than its total operating costs, so that fund just keeps growing over time. Nothing short of societal collapse would cause it to "go bankrupt." Additionally, it's legally set up such that it's not possible for anyone to take the money and run. It's in escrow, and can only be used for the care and eventual revival of the patients. Finally, one of the requirements to be on the board for the Trust is that you have to have a family member in cryosuspension.
There would probably be something done with them
Hell naw man 😭🙏
@@unfunnyduckyunfortunatley no...
Majority of cryo companies went bankrupt.
The storage turned into mush. Nobody cared.
Also - those running already lost majority of their "customers". Because power outages occur and if the temperature goes even slightly up - ice forms rendering entire thing useless.
@@keepdoingyourjob4404power outages are a non issue as seen with hospitals, cinemas, most relevant sport stadiums and other public use buildings.
There's several backup systems for when the current goes out that can last for days/weeks(depends on the system) with the minimum operating resources required by law in most first world countries, and systems in place so the current doesn't go away for even a second while the backups go in action
Having to roll the dice on being revived in the future is rough
Well you're dead either way so might as well have a chance
I'll take a .005% chance of reanimation over a guaranteed 0% letting the worms or the fires get my body.
what's rougher is not being revived 100%
@@Danath1982tbh I'd rather give the money away to someone who actually needs it rather than play sci-fi
So what, you're dead anyway.
If the snail doesn't catch you then sure... you can live forever
You can have eternal life, but not trough human means, trough putting your faith in Jesus Christ, The Son of God who suffered the worst death ever so we could have eternal life just by having true, genuine faith in Him. John 3:16:”For God so loved the world so He gave He’s only begotten Son, so whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life”. Eternal life is a serious and real matter.
@@tibid6087 im muslim bro
Mission failed, we'll get em next time.
Bro what are you on about 😭😭 (I'm also Christian btw) but how does your comment relate to his original comment- there's a time and place for everything dude.
( I'm talking to tidbid6087 btw)
Kurzgesagt should totally make a video on the immortal jellyfish. That thing's about as close to real immortality as you can find.
that thing is essentially just water tho. I find crocodiles and sharks more interesting in that regard
Any lifeform incapable of bitching about what Disney has done to Star Wars and Marvel franchises doesn't *deserve* a shot at immortality. 😏
You can have eternal life, but not trough human means, trough putting your faith in Jesus Christ, The Son of God who suffered the worst death ever so we could have eternal life just by having true, genuine faith in Him. John 3:16:”For God so loved the world so He gave He’s only begotten Son, so whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life”. Eternal life is a serious and real matter.
Fun fact: we can already do successful cryonics on small animals like hamsters. They freeze them instantly and then wake them back up in a microwave. We just can’t do it with humans because our bodies can’t fully freeze fast enough to not damage ourselves.
Here me out
A bigger freezer 🤷♀️
I can totally tell this is satire, aint no way someone would put a hamster in a microwave noooo :(
How long can the hamster be frozen for before waking them up? I think you can also do it kind of with flies. I saw a video where someone wanted to tie a leash on a fly and he froze them, tied a string around them and when they woke up they were on a “leash”
@@jonhard1049 Microwaves were invented by someone researching cryonics on hamsters, he needed an easy way to revive frozen hamsters so he invented the microwave.
Actually this works.
I did it with a chicken recently.
It didn't wake up.
But it was delicious.
Getting a glimpse of horrific “punishment” rather than habilitation in capitalistic prison
???????????????
No no no no no.
See, if you really want to live forever, you just have to follow this one simple rule:
1. Don’t die
Instructions unclear, I now have 4 arms.
You are a genius dude
Teach me
Your ingeniousness knows no bounds.
Have you tried making a Harvard application?
Oh yeah
-Bryan Johnson
just stopping by for my weekly existential crisis
Who am I? What’s the purpose of my life?
@@NguyenMinh792Meaning is derived subjectively. There is no inherent meaning in the universe as far as I know. This can be scary at first, but it is freeing to view life more whimsically and enjoy the ride.
Ok, I've thought about this quite a lot in the past years and came up with a strange conclusion: if freezing your brain means that you can't be "dead", then whatever happens when you're truly dead will not occur (it just doesn't make any sense you being in heaven/hell or being a reincarnated worm and then suddenly being "you" again).
Now things get weird: If what determines what "you" are is your brain, and your brain is a specific configution of brain cells, which are specific configuration of molecules, etc., it means that what really matters to determinate whether you are alive or not is to keep the configuration the way it is (in this case by freezing it). But, even if you turn into dust and every atom of your body gets scattered in the ecosystem, and somehow (on a highly improbable chance by natural means in a finite universe) the very same molecules that once were your brain reassemble in the same configuration they were (or in a configuration that sustains consciousness), you should be alive again, in a fresh new life. Assuming this, whatever happens after death couldn't be eternal while the chances of the configuration that makes "you" are still possible.
Basically Boltzmann's brain theory
Ship of Theseus in reverse.
Death not be being binary is one of many reasons that a soul and an afterlife are incoherent yes.
Pay to Die, now that sounds like a deal! 💰
If you pay someone to kill yourself, would that be murder or suicide 🤔
@@SMITESHSURESHyou would be responsible for your death but the guy you paid would still be a murderer
kurzgesagt said they (cryonics dudes) would take the dead body of person cuz what it counted as dead today would not be counted as dead in several centuries
@@SMITESHSURESH both
Someone call Dazai 😨
I spotted numerous easter eggs:
1) Shut up and take my money! (Futurama meme)
2) SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS LATER... (SpongeBob time cards)
3) You Wouldn't Upload a Brain (You Wouldn't Steal a Car anti-piracy ad)
And stonks
you wouldn't download a car*
Dont forget the very first part of the video which i think is a reference to ‘3 body problem’
This is the stupidest thing money can buy. If I have to come back, I'd rather have a new body than revived old one.
Future scientists: "Congrats, we brought you back! But we were only able to save your brain. No, you dont have a body anymore, nor any inputs or outputs to communicate back with us. You're going to live forever as a brain in a jar as a household decoration. Enjoy an eternity of solitude with nothing but your own thoughts to keep you company!"
Doesn't make much sense for the scientists to just bring back brains to torture..
And we ever reach a point where we can revive a brain, then at that point body replacement would be trivial.
The computer game Soma is a great treatment of rude awakenings.
If this happen to me I will need a nura link chip
the closest family member you have was given notice of your return from cryonics (great great great great grand niece.) they are given an address to where the facility is.
they go there.
they find your cell.
all you feel is slight sparks of stimuli as you bounce around the jar where random parts of your brain are activated. not able to scream to anybody about your agony.
they take you to the prosthetic company from a really long time ago that used to sell normal prosthetics, but now is able to make sales on full prosthetic bodies. they put you on anesthesia, and you drift dormant. the next thing you know, you can feel. you can hear. you can move. the machine they have put your brain in appears "almost" like a normal human body. you get up, meet your GGGG-G-niece, and you get a bill.
two quadrillion dollars.
you're asked why you were mad at such cheap prices.
apparently, because of inflation, that is more like 200$ in 2024 money.
life goes on pretty normally from there.
some people judge you on how you look and think you're an AI and you have to explain to them, as you're one of the first people who had been woken up from cryonics.
you're payed only 70 million dollars per hour in your new job. minimum wage.
one day, you get into a car crash. all four of your limbs fly off. your body has no blood. you're just on the pavement in the middle of the night. you call out, but all the sound you can make is just static............... (someone else continue the story)
@@Blackmask_27"ze bluetoof devise has successfully c0nnected"
Shorts like this feel like trailers for longer videos of Kurz's. Which they simultaneously are and are not directly. I feel cheated and yet satisfied but also comforted in knowing I've already seen the longer length vid that doesn't exist. ❤
Live forever? What a terrifying prospect.
I would do it.
Can you guys a make a dedicated video on the theory of relativity?
That would be amazing.
They don't make anything in detail.
There are several other RUclips channels which have produced many excellent videos on the theory of Relativity... There aren't any ducks in those videos however... but they will be far more accurate and detailed than this channel.
My favorite is "Eigenchris", "ScienceClick English" has some pretty good ones, "Dialect" is *eventually* good, but he was still figuring stuff out in his earliest videos and a bit confused about stuff, dispite the good looking animations. He's going in a weird direction with General Relativity right now and Einstein Synchronization.
Oh! "Richard Wolfson" has an excellent lecture series on Special Relatively. It's really good even without fancy computer graphics.
@@rohitashmishra6761 well yeah of course...
Their videos are usually 10 minutes long.
@@juliavixen176 well, we simply want ducks explaining it XD.
Because there aren't already five trillion videos on the subject? 🤔
I've been disabled since I was 24. This is my daily hope ngl. I've been saving up so hard
Hang in there! Science gets better every day. Maybe you can get fixed up in your natural lifetime
@@Danath1982 ❤
as a 23 year old who's always been disabled: Don't waste your money. These companies are PREYING on people like us specifically. And frankly, if you could be revived with all your memory, wouldn't you rather have a new body that doesn't have The Bad Chemicals (see also: Not Enough Serotonin) and has joints that work and fresh bones? Or better yet, a biologically indestructible body, a la scifi robots with human brains inside them? There are so many reasons you should give up on this idea that one youtube comment cannot do it justice, but a thing especially worth noting is that the freezing processes we currently have cannot freeze a human sized specimen before the freezing starts to cause damage.
Like, I'm not trying to hurt your mental state or anything but *if this is your daily hope you need to find a new one,* and anti-aging technology looks like it might be the best way out, since a lot of those treatments could affect genetic disabilities too (specifically: CRISPR could help) and frankly that sounds a lot less risky than potentially doing irreversible damage that cannot be recovered without access to technology better used on things that aren't 3 thousand year old corpses of the categories of people that the society of our time doesn't seem to want to keep around, and on top of that, we could see CRISPR in our lifetimes. We, the disabled gen z, might actually get to live long enough to see that happen, and it's 100% possible that younger millennials will survive long enough for those treatments as well. Hope is not gone for those of us with permanent physical ailments, but that hope needs to be placed in technology that is based in something other than theoretical magic.
@@TheMENTALproductionzLook into BCIs (Brain Computer Interface) projects or companies that focus on rehabilitation, paralysis, aphasia etc…whatever your disability is, this is the next best thing compared to current tech.
Even if nothing comes of it, don’t let this stop you from living, best of luck!
@@TheMENTALproductionzna fam this is technology that is definitely not coming before 3100
Gonna make it till then?
I don't think so
I love how it starts with $250k and ends with 100 “what ifs” and “hopefullys” .. I’ll just die thanks 😂
Alright, take your Darwin award.
You can have guaranteed eternal life, but not trough human means, trough putting your faith in Jesus Christ, The Son of God who suffered the worst death ever so we could have eternal life just by having true, genuine faith in Him. John 3:16:”For God so loved the world so He gave He’s only begotten Son, so whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life”. Eternal life is a serious and real matter.
Someone: “Welcome to the year 2169, you have just been frozen. Anything you have to say?”
*That* kid: “Skibidi Toilet rizz my dude”
put him back.
@@Gamespud94 Put him down💀
Edge, edge. Have you ever been on an edging streak? Edge, edge. Do they keep you in a state of edging? Edge, edge. When your not performing you are edging, do they make you goon? Edge, edge. Rizz, rizz. What's it like to hold the gyatt of someone you love? Rizz, rizz. Do they teach you how to feel, sigma to sigma? Rizz, rizz. Do you long for having your heart rizzed? Rizz, rizz. Do you dream about being rizzed? Rizz, rizz. Did baby gronk rizz up livy dunn? Rizz, rizz. Do you feel there is a part of you that's skibidi? Rizz, rizz. Skibidi edge rizz, skibidi edge rizz. Why don't you say that 3 times? Skibidi edge rizz. skibidi edge rizz. skibidi edge rizz. skibidi edge rizz.
"And blood-black nothingness began to spin. A system of edges rizzed within edge rized within edge rizzed within one sigma.
And masterfully mewing againts the fanum, a tall white fountain gooned."
- Open the airlock.
- Yes captain.
I liked the way this was addressed in "Transmetropolitan."
In the future, cryogenically-preserved people were revived, given fresh new bodies and sent on their way.
But since none of them had applicable job skills any more and since a lot of them got so freaked out by all the new technology , they ended up unhoused with PTSD just wandering in a daze.
Unhoused?
@@baw5xc333 Yes. If the revived people didn't have any living descendants who would take them in, they were turned out into the world. Since they didn't have any job skills or assets, most ended up living on the streets. There were shelters, but those were as low on resources as current shelters.
Apparently, people in the future still won't care if people without housing just die on the streets as long as their taxes don't go towards helping them.
The creator, Warren Ellis, really nails what a dystopian horror capitalism will produce.
For example, there are "make machines" that are like 3D printers that work on a molecular level. They can make you everything from a hot meal to a cellphone to a suit of clothes. They can make things using "base blocks" which are huge bricks of assorted matter or they can convert trash directly into new things.
The problem is, maker machines don't really produce a lot of trash so trash is hard to find. The poor can't afford to buy maker machines and they can't afford the monthly subscription fee to keep them operational. So the poor buy cheap mas-produced goods that still come in packaging. And people who can afford maker machines aren't likely to go picking up litter in poor neighborhoods.
@@baw5xc333 yea basically future hobos
@@baw5xc333 the Incorrect Term is "homeless"
@@HorseyWorsey tell me you have no empathy for unhoused people without telling me you have no empathy for unhoused people
I loved the loop. How the end of this video stitches it back to the beginning. Great stuff. 👍
"Remember son, dying is gay... And expensive."
"So it's either the _long sleep_ or the *long sleep* ."
As someone who'd love to be preserved for the future, I do find it a little disconcerting to potentially become a dead science project, or a future living science project; where you're not treated like a human but a test subject. Even in the event of being perfectly cryo-preserved there's still a chance that business fails left with a bunch of corpses to go who knows where, or someone messes up preserving your body, or natural disaster. Cryo-preserving should not be advertised as future-proofing your existence but an opportunity to offer something more in the future.
“Shut up and take my money”?! 😮
If I think about cryonics too hard I eventually start questioning if I’m the same person that was alive yesterday or did they die last night after falling asleep…
It's a matter of perspective.
I took that one step further, am I the same person as 1 second ago, or an entirely different being with the same memories?
@@danielcreatd872 a time span as short as one second is not long enough for the horrific idea to be possible, but sleep? That is 100% potentially a repeated death-and-rebirth and there is no scientific way to prove whether it is or isn't that:
Suppose that your consciousness IS you. If you "lose consciousness," is this not death, due to losing what is the entirety of Capital Y You? If we accept that it is, then sleeping must by definition of being that thing where you lose consciousness for a while is itself a form of temporary death on the psychological level. Through this hypothetical understanding, you today are different from you yesterday, but have all the same memories, thoughts, feelings, likes, dislikes, hopes, dreams, -SAVE the world,- etc. And since youTube's timestamps tell me your comment was written 20 hours ago, you've probably slept since writing that, which means through this lens, the you that might respond to my existential crisis isn't the you that accidentally prompted me to write this wall of text.
This theory, which comes from fucking Wolfenstein of all things, genuinely keeps me up. I genuinely lose sleep over this idea because I cannot disprove it and it technically makes sense and hey maybe I don't actually want to die???
I would consider that if it weren't for the knowledge that I know that the brain doesn't completely shut off.
So are the same person and didn't die I would otherwise crushing out if there was a moment which I brain shuts off a moment and resets.
Or reboots.
Then I would question myself
Ur own consciousness is still aware of itself so no. If u would have died and a new version of u continued, then u wouldn't know that as u would be dead. But neither would new "you" as it continues from where u left off.
Basically if u are still thinking then u are still here.
Magician here. The heart is the fountain of youth. The fabled philosopher’s stone. To live forever one must renew the heart and cleanse it with love.
There are more details but that’s a good part 1 😉
Ok.
You're just sponsored by the love potion companies. I'm not drinking that stuff ever again. That got awkward fast
Next video in this topic please
I’ll think you’ll find that sergeant Dornan is the best enclave soldier
Sorry to say this, but...
A bot copied your comment and got a ton of likes for its "effort".
Micro damage to the brain could slowly change you as a person depending on how much the cryonics are used which is a scary thought
I love your lifespan content. Your original video about this and CGP grey is what got me into healthspan news
There's a popular quote:-
"Nothing lasts forever" So will we😊
Kid named proton decay:
We are Legion (we are bob) by Dennis E Taylor is a fantacy book that the main character gets frozen after death. It's fascinating what the future ends up. Love the series.
great series indeed, cant wait for part 5 to come out soon.
1. get a host for the jutsu. 2. use a marking pattern around the host. 3. let the reanimation jutsu take place
Uploading my brain is basically just turning me into a necron
hypixel skyblock reference!?!?!??
@@TON-dr5fz what?
@@TON-dr5fzwarhammer 40k refrence
I'm okay with that. "Tomb World" has a nice ring to it. ;-)
“you wouldn’t upload a brain” lmao phenomenal reference
For the last time, there’s a difference between ‘immortal’ and ‘undying’! Immortal means they can’t be killed, while undying means not dying due to age.
Yeah but who wants to live foreveeeeerrrrr!
*ME*
Those not boring.
Oasis 😂
People who are able to make their lives interesting, just guessing
me
Kurzgesagt has caught my attention with their amazing videos❤❤
Being revived in a world where everything has changed. Your loved ones are gone. You're the only one thats survived and society is also not the same. I would rather die happy than live there.
"بسم الله الرحمان الرحيم, كُلُّ نَفْسٍۢ ذَآئِقَةُ ٱلْمَوْتِ ۗ وَإِنَّمَا تُوَفَّوْنَ أُجُورَكُمْ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَٰمَةِ ۖ فَمَن زُحْزِحَ عَنِ ٱلنَّارِ وَأُدْخِلَ ٱلْجَنَّةَ فَقَدْ فَازَ ۗ وَمَا ٱلْحَيَوٰةُ ٱلدُّنْيَآ إِلَّا مَتَٰعُ ٱلْغُرُورِ" صدق الله العظيم، سورة العنكبوت - الآية 57.
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Then don't take this process if you don't like it
Who needs to pay 200k when you can just watch an ad?
Rich people: Cryonics
Poor people: English or spanish
If you live forever, you'll face more pain than if you die.
A price I am willing to pay to discover all secrets of this universe.
How tf is pain worse than nothing?
@@alexeyamosov664Was it really so bad before you were born? It would be the same
@@turbokaivuri8390 well, I certainly didn’t enjoy my experience there
Just the thought of your life having no deadline sounds good. When you have limited time in life, you set realistic goals for your life, for example a normal person's bucket list doesn't include getting rich, becoming the best at a certain hobby, trying every food, travelling to every country, learning every language all at the same time. Why? Because people know that by the time you've achieved a single thing out of these, half of your life is already gone. But if you were immortal, you could achieve all of that, and by the time you've done that there's a million more goals to reach. And when doing anything starts getting repetitive you can still wait untill people invent a way to stop the immortality or if that's impossible then just shut off you conciousness.
The soul is already gone while they are frozen. So they waste the time that was available to them and basically all they're doing is putting themselves to sleep until death comes to them. Then they die and leave their bodies. Now that body doesn't have any person in it.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@ErvBot31look who's laughing 🤭
Yeah no rofl. Now if we take a negative and pessimist look at at it yeah sure.
the "soul" just, isnt a thing and cant just leave. if the brain is capable of functioning, then the person is alive.
@@iknowwhereyoulive618 If the lungs are breathing and the heart is pumping, that means the body is still alive and the entity that does that is the spirit.
The person is the soul. Not the spirit or body.
Soul: The real person
Spirit: Makes the lungs breathe and the heart pump
Body: Body
Read Appendix 1 and Appendix 22 from Quran The Final Testament book.
A wise man once told me
-immortality is a curse not a blessing
Cryonics
Cry...on...it... 💀
Imagine if the people who got frozen could see, and it hurts. They could still think, but they couldn't tell them that it hurts, and that they want to get out. That ladies and gentlemen, is torture.
This was the equivalent of farting in a jar and sniffing it
You can't be frozen until you are pronounced clinically dead so at that point you are a lifeless corpse ur not feeling anything
the music for this is great
This is why i don't quite like looping videos on all topics willy nilly... like in this video's case, it puts the video in an intentional or unintentional state of the answer being the question that it it self answers and so on, in a senseless semantic loop...
Trouble with cryonics - our *radioactive bones* constantly damage our tissues. In stasis, this doesn't stop, but the repair processes do. The result, incredible DoT, presenting quite a lot of repair work for the future revivalists.
part of me wants to just react "BONES ARE READIOACTIVE" but yeah with how much potassium we have to eat, and getting it from bananas, yeah I totally believe the human body is radioactive. But I am curious to learn details on bone radioactivity, that sounds very interesting!
@@SnoFitzroy Curiously, bananas are actually a rather weak source of potassium. Tomato paste is the real deal. However, what likes to build up in bone (and teeth!) are radioisotopes of stuff like strontium and radium - really anything chemically similar to calcium (plus some naturally active calcium isotopes), which are collectively known, hilariously, as *bone seekers* , owing to their tendency to build up there.
No biggie, just store your brain sans bones. Besides they have to fix all the ice crystal damage, some radiation blasted DNA would be easy
Damage from endogenous radioisotope decay is a real thing, but would take thousands of years to inflict so much damage that the patient couldn't be recovered. This will be a real issue with interstellar travel, but not with cryonics. No one who's seriously involved with cryonics research thinks that it's going to take anywhere near that long for the technology to do molecular scale cellular repair to be developed and proliferated. Anecdotally, I think the general consensus is that we're looking at less than a century, and possibly considerably less.
"Radioactive bones" my brain got confused on which imagine dragons song it should play in the background of my thoughts.
cryonics is the definiton of “trust me bro”
The actual question is:
Do you really want to live forever?
Forever...
Or never?
I do actually. I'm interested to see what the far future would be like.
I'd only want to live forever if I could decide when to die
FOREEEEVER YOUNG
@@mimaps i want to be forever young
If you aren't boring.
Immortality is a curse , imagine seeing each and every member of ur family dying in front of ur eyes and at a point you'll get bored and will beg for death
1 - pay
2 - die
3 - ?
4 - profit
3 is be reviven
Profit? More like debt. (Still worth it tho)
This is never gonna be possible as even with the body being seemingly frozen in time, its impossible to prevent degradation completely, just like how meat in a freezer changes despite being at the same temperature all the time.
وَلَتَجِدَنَّهُمْ أَحْرَصَ ٱلنَّاسِ عَلَىٰ حَيَوٰةٍۢ وَمِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَشْرَكُوا۟ ۚ يَوَدُّ أَحَدُهُمْ لَوْ يُعَمَّرُ أَلْفَ سَنَةٍۢ وَمَا هُوَ بِمُزَحْزِحِهِۦ مِنَ ٱلْعَذَابِ أَن يُعَمَّرَ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ بَصِيرٌۢ بِمَا يَعْمَلُونَ ٩٦
2:96
You will surely find them clinging to life more eagerly than any other people, even more than polytheists. Each one of them wishes to live a thousand years. But even if they were to live that long, it would not save them from the punishment. And Allah is All-Seeing of what they do.
- Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran
No way bro just revealed FNaF 1673634 William Afton lore like that 💀
قال تعالي: [كل نفس ذائقة الموت ولو كنتم في بروج مشيدة]
guys you should translate that and read it carefully
Well I can read it because I'm fluent at Arabic but yeah nobody escapes death
سبحان الله يحاولون الهروب من الموت لا والله كل نفس ذائقة الموت
"Shut up and take my money!" and the stonks reference got me laughing
What if a mother and child get frozen together and then 160 years later they get unfrozen and the baby is kidnapped and mother shot by a cornflake brand?
Just make synthetic people, they solve everything.
Father wakes up and sets out to rebuild a nation and forgets about his son
That's not the most absurd argument I've heard against cryonics!
I dont know why anyone would want to do this. Even if its only 100 years until we have this kind of technology, everything will have changed so much that you'd just be starting from 0 again.
You won't have any personal/professional connections left. Plus, knowledge and society in general will have drastically changed. It would be like not telling anyone and just moving to a foreign country that speaks a language that you dont speak
Better than being dead. 🤷♂️
@mhelvens honestly, I don't know that it would be. But I guess at that point it's more of a personal decision , so yeah you're right
well, if there are enough others that also froze themselves, at least there will still be people to relate to.
And think of it this way, what if you had the choice to ether die tomorrow, or permanently move to a different country (like spain, japan, korea, iceland) what would you do?
i know what i would go for.
@@nickv8334 Exactly! People move to new countries with different languages and completely different cultures all the time and manage to thrive. Plus, most cryonicists know other cryonicists, so it's more like relocating your community to another country together.
Some people don't have the mindset to see that as an adventure or the mental agility to adapt to significantly different circumstances. Those people don't tend to sign up for cryonics.
One of these companies’ machines failed earlier this year. They had to scrape frozen human remains off of the floor in pieces because the body shattered.
Through Jesus Christ we will live eternally 🗣🙏🔥🔥
"Where there is no continuity, there's a dead body" - Stanisław Lem
Who says there's no continuity?
I wouldnt say upoading your brain would make you immortal. Its a copy of you, but not the real you unless the brain is awake in the process and your ''awaken being'' is slowly switched from your brain to the computer
Consciousness is extremely fucky, you could very well argue that the "you" that goes to sleep at night isn't the same "you" that wakes up in the morning.
Tbh I imagine it of kinda "moving" the conciousness from the physical body into a computer. That would be the most complicated part of it all, as we don't fully know how conciousness works. But another idea is "moving" the brain (or if more advanced, conciousness) into a robotic body, that is gonna last longer. And if in the future, we'll somehow acquire unlimited resources, it could continue for a very long time.
Wait does it show my reply?
@@ARandomIndieGameEnjoyer It does, at least for me.
@@HunterTracks I think not just maybe. Your brain still works over night, process the daily informations and build up new connections. So it is another you. But it is still you 😅 In my opinion you only stop being you if the brain stops working completely or is influenced by a surgery
“Litterly Fallout 💀”
Duck- also known as the most willing volunteer
The real question is whether our psyche could survive living for several hundred years
By the time you would forget most of things
You'd hope there's some form of memory expansion and storage e.g download your full memory onto a device and then resume "recording". Rinse and repeat, and don't lose the backups.
@@AmieEss or simply write journals
I can't wait to find out!
One power outage and my ass is freezer burnt
Not at all. The dewars don't use electricity. They just need to periodically have the liquid nitrogen topped off a bit. You could literally cut the power, close the doors, and walk away for a few months and not lose any patients.
@@Datan0de dude, they can't hear you.. they cannot use logic and rationality when dealing with stuff that happens after death.. you're not convincing anyone, but you are polluting the data.. you ought to stop.. no offense
Imagine being revived just to be a museum display
Why doesn’t sum rich guy just give kurzgesagt a few billion to do all the cool stuff irl
Not the only strategy I've seen. Brain transplant, gene therapy using younger versions of your genes, and upload (great way to make ai), and one other I won't mention
Gene therapy ??
Upload a concusness?? Alright whats a concusness by definition and is it something we can uhh (what's the right word) manipulate (i guess that's the word). Like making the file transfer between pc and a pendrive.
@@credentials4664 I define consciousness as an active electrical network within a defined neural system (ie: all of your memories and neural pathways)
@@shiroi5672 why not the ship of theseus?
Replace one brain part, then another, and just keep going. Eventually, your consciousness or soul would essentially be shifted over into a medium that can be transferred over electronic means.
Of course, the moving of said consciousness could be considered cloning and not a true moving of said mind, but future problems.
Why not mention the other one? Is it that controversial?
"Duck has to pay and die"
sounds like life insurance fraud to me, Duck.
"upload its brain"
Dude, 'I' want to keep living. Not my clone
I would still be dead, but there would be a doppelganger around now. That's completely useless for me (who is still pretty dead)
And they can make thay doppelgänger do what they want it to do, like get information.
Depends on how you define "self". Personally, I define "me" as a continuity of neural connectome, with additional influences from my endocrine system. That's "me". That's what's meaningful, not the specific ball of meat it's instantiated in. There is no "just" a copy. Any copy of me is just as valid and just as "me" as any other.
Not that it really matters in this case, since cryonics doesn't necessarily imply uploading.
Technically you can without cryogenic stuff because old age weakens down your body and makes you less immune to germs and other stuff
There is a theory known as this, because if you die and get reanimated back to life, would you actually be the same person? If you went to sleep and died, you wouldn’t notice it at all. If you wake up from the dead, you’d maybe be just a brain with memories, yet the other person really died. And the hope of getting alive again can only be lived when you are alive, so it doesn’t really matter when you are dead. In a nutshell; would you still be you?
The interesting thing about this, is that if it works, it's probably statically better to just do it immediately, instead of continuing to walk around, risking some disaster that renders your brain unsalvageable
The mentioned $80,000 figure is true only for premium preservation providers like Alcor. A more budget option-Cryonics Institute provides full body preservation for as little as $28,000 for people with membership, 45,000$ for people without.
There is another, very interesting problem - radiation, the radiation of your own body. I recently learned about this myself, but the point is that the human body contains substances during the decay of which a certain amount of radiation is released and in the long term your own body can irradiate itself to a fatal state caused by radiation sickness :(
Theoretically, the brain can live for much longer than the body that houses it. Usually people die from something not related to the brain, something else that's needed for the brain to survive fails first and then the brain dies as a result.
It's plausible to take the brain out of the body, now, making it able to see, hear, touch, feel and the like, we can get to that later. But, to keep JUST the brain alive, you simply need to engineer a fluid that can give the brain what it needs. To do that, we can either just make new/take human blood and spinal fluid to give nutrients to it, connecting that to a tank that filter's it out and replaces it. Or, you can engineer a new fluid which is much more fun imo.
The brain get's nutrients and oxygen from Diffusion, blood cells pass by the brain and through diffusion in small blood vessels, oxygen finds it's way to the brain. This means that TECHNICALLY we don't even need blood, we just need to find something that can carry oxygen and nutrients with it through the capillaries. For that, we can either use Copper Based Blood which is far more efficient and free floating so the risk of virus's and infections are next to 0. Or, we can create tiny machines/engineer better Cells that are more efficient and resilient. To get the blood to pump, we just need to install a pump, the way the bodies blood vessels are made makes this pretty easy, we could even replace these blood vessels with new ones if we wanted.
Now, we just take this and place it into a robotic body. There's a youtuber who's able to control video games using a device that looks at Brain Activity. The same thing can be used here. The only issue's really are that we don't know how the brain will react to no longer having a body, phantom pains are likely. Eyes and Ear's would be difficult to manufacture, so would other senses we have. You could fix this by engineering a method to send Electrical Signals to the brain through a fake spine, mimicking the necessary electrical signals for the brain to think it has X body part. It's plausible that you could use a similar method to translate, say, a camera's data into electrical signals that are sent to the brain, allowing you too see through a camera instead of eyes. Or unlocking the senses, such as by translating the data of a Touch Sensor on say the robotic arm, into the feeling of touch.
This still doesn't get rid of other psychological effects, such as the unknown causes of Dementia, the memory loss that would inevitably come with living for way longer than plausible. Or the psychological effects of effectively living in a simulation of what your robotic body is doing. You'd be a squishy brain inside a giant metal casket for however long it takes for your brain to finally stop working.