Excellent - this is one of my favourite cab rides. I like your driving style - none of this namby-pamby crawling into platforms at 20mph! I’ve often observed that approaching platforms quicker allows for a smoother stop, rather than coasting along the platform and then throwing on full service at the end.
Hayes obviously subsumed into London Bridge around 1975 Twickenham likewise incorporated into Feltham Both L and F both now gone, taken over by ROCs. It’s kinda sad, I do like to visit an old box when route learning
A great video and very enjoyable. I grew up in Sidcup in the 1950's when green 4EPB's ruled the roost and journeys to Charing Cross were always a treat for a train mad boy. Captions with the station names are a very helpful feature. Many thanks.
This video brings back memories of my childhood when I used to travel from Hayes to Charing Cross on the route 24. Route 25 I believe was Cannon Street. It was the green EPB's in those days back in the late '50's and 60's. I was surprised that they were still running at the beginning of the '90's. In those early days I can remember that Clock House Station was prone to flooding. Great video and I really have enjoyed it particularly this one. The Networker trains seem so much faster.
EPBs finished in 1995, with the Networkers starting to come in a couple of years earlier The Networkers are quicker, but I still think I prefer the EPBs!
I liked that one a lot, thank you! I used to live near Clock House, so I had to stop myself pausing the video and getting up from my chair when we arrived! Thank you for the station names, they help my aged memory. A few little details that caught my eye: .The little stumps of platform at Spa Road outside London Bridge .The remains of Platform 4 at Elmers End, harks back to another time with the branch line down to Addiscombe, etc. Now it's just a very wide platform 3. .The NSE colours and branding at Cannon Street .When London Bridge was functional but ugly
All absolutely valid points! Things have changed a lot very quickly! Elmers End had bay platforms both sides at one point. The downside was for Hayes, but very seldom used to decades out of use. The upside was the Addiscombe shuttle but that, of course, gave way to Tramlink after 1997
I would have to say that the approach into London Bridge has to be one of the most dramatic approaches into central London on a train, as the City of London skyline with its impressive buildings begins to close in on you fast, along with the Shard right out in front as well.
love the sounds of the networkers man i really do both 465/9s and 0s..(using them as a prime example considering they have different starter acceleration sounds)
@@emmo999 well coming from you, as a driver that just confirms it then hahaha, they seem to be so well made for a 90s train. It's so surprising that they work well to this day,( I always get on them.)
@@emmo999 yeah I've noticed, metro cammels are alot quicker. Very impressive , they have more horse power than alot of trains I've heard lol. Even some newer ones I think. And I KNEW IT. it's seems some need a refirb because some /2s are more powerful than others I've noticed
The /2 and /9 are a bit faster to pull away from a standing start, but take longer to get to maximum speed. The /0 and /1 get to 75mph quicker but are a bit slower pulling away from 0
I am from c2c territory out of fenchurch street to shoeburyness. I am a passenger not z driver though, i have been on sarf eastern when i worked at deptford, and used to get train from gravesend semi fast to abbey wood, and off we would go to charlton for our sins
What an awful grind of rails outside of cannon Street and lewisham - it must drive the locals nuts! I wonder if there is an ammeter in the cab so you can avoid the motors from being burnt out from too much current especially when you really floored it after London bridge? Did you ever accidentally forget to stop at a station on route?
I never forgot to stop anywhere, but I always checked when stopped what my next stop was. There is no ammeter in modern units, as electronics control the power output to make sure you don’t overload anything
I was at Elmers End one day years ago waiting for a train to London, when a green heritage unit pulled in as part of an 8 carriage consist. Would that have been a 4SUB or a 4EPB?
It must have been around the time that the new stock was coming in, and they laid it on as a treat for us. I worked at Elmers End for six years, and I remember the link to Woodside Park being taken out, and the bay platform being altered for Tramlink.
Bill Cobbett I grew up in Woodside & it was a special treat to go up on the two car carriage from Woodside to Elmers End then up to Charing Cross to see the Christmas lights
Pray tell, what do engineers call that slip diamond crossing if you will that our train plies at 1:12:08? Are its rails manœuvred so as to be less noisy when traveled over than if they were merely static, or is either space or the angle of attack too tight? Does such a dynamic diamond ever get its own signal?
trainrover Switch diamonds. Yes, they manoeuvre according to the route set, this being with the main signal (no need for its own). Allows a smoother ride over the diamond
When the London Bridge rebuild was taking place around 2016. With the Thameslink lines down the middle, the crossover was removed so they were not impeded. Blue Anchor junction was a bottleneck with TL trains crossing on the level. Now they’ve have a dedicated flyover, so equally there are not scheduled moves between the CHX and CST sides approaching LBG
Was evening rush hour. At London Bridge southbound, listening to the station announcement I think it was a bit after 5 pm. Service would have been pretty much entirely homeward bound commuters alighting en route and absolutely no-one .interested in going back into London. Some leavers were obviously saying thanks at New Beckenham as they passed the driver on their way out beyond the fence.
Excellent - this is one of my favourite cab rides. I like your driving style - none of this namby-pamby crawling into platforms at 20mph! I’ve often observed that approaching platforms quicker allows for a smoother stop, rather than coasting along the platform and then throwing on full service at the end.
I love those double turnouts at Lewisham. It is geometric poetry to my eyes. Aarre Peltomaa, Mississauga, Ontario
I was a signalman at Hayes back in 1970. Went onto Twickenham West Junction Box, where i ended my time on the railway.
Hayes obviously subsumed into London Bridge around 1975
Twickenham likewise incorporated into Feltham
Both L and F both now gone, taken over by ROCs. It’s kinda sad, I do like to visit an old box when route learning
A great video and very enjoyable. I grew up in Sidcup in the 1950's when green 4EPB's ruled the roost and journeys to Charing Cross were always a treat for a train mad boy. Captions with the station names are a very helpful feature. Many thanks.
This video brings back memories of my childhood when I used to travel from Hayes to Charing Cross on the route 24. Route 25 I believe was Cannon Street. It was the green EPB's in those days back in the late '50's and 60's. I was surprised that they were still running at the beginning of the '90's. In those early days I can remember that Clock House Station was prone to flooding. Great video and I really have enjoyed it particularly this one. The Networker trains seem so much faster.
EPBs finished in 1995, with the Networkers starting to come in a couple of years earlier
The Networkers are quicker, but I still think I prefer the EPBs!
Thank you for a great cab-ride video on one of my favourite routes
Another great video today. Always enjoy them. See you on the next. Cheers mates! 🇬🇧🙂👍🇺🇸
I liked that one a lot, thank you! I used to live near Clock House, so I had to stop myself pausing the video and getting up from my chair when we arrived!
Thank you for the station names, they help my aged memory.
A few little details that caught my eye:
.The little stumps of platform at Spa Road outside London Bridge
.The remains of Platform 4 at Elmers End, harks back to another time with the branch line down to Addiscombe, etc. Now it's just a very wide platform 3.
.The NSE colours and branding at Cannon Street
.When London Bridge was functional but ugly
All absolutely valid points! Things have changed a lot very quickly! Elmers End had bay platforms both sides at one point. The downside was for Hayes, but very seldom used to decades out of use. The upside was the Addiscombe shuttle but that, of course, gave way to Tramlink after 1997
Just travelled this journey first time in 60 years, surprised how long the platforms are
Great video. Spent 2 weeks in Catford during 2013 and rode this route daily.
I am learning this route for my part 6 in June
Easy route to learn and yet lots of areas of Low Rail Adhesions
Half a lifetime since I was driving EPBs on this route. So much different, so much the same.
I would have to say that the approach into London Bridge has to be one of the most dramatic approaches into central London on a train, as the City of London skyline with its impressive buildings begins to close in on you fast, along with the Shard right out in front as well.
It’s changed so much since this was filmed. I’m aiming to get over it again soon
Might we see New Tube for London Bakerloo line trains on this line in the future? ;)
Excellent video. Many thanks!!!!!
Love these videos because it's route learning for me when I become a train driver.
same when i graduate high school i want to work on the rail network
i wish you good luck
love the sounds of the networkers man i really do both 465/9s and 0s..(using them as a prime example considering they have different starter acceleration sounds)
I couldn’t be a train driver for many reasons, mainly because I’m thicker than a phone book, but also that rail squeal would drive me insane
Part of the job. You get used to it and switch off from it
2:54 - As the train is pulling into the station: I'm sure some people think that yellow line is just for decoration!
It is. Oh and for dares.
Wow, from looking at this again it just confirms how class 465s can really dominate inclines and hills.
Yes, the 465s are good honest machines. Even a lengthy climb like Sevenoaks to Knockholt is just eaten up
@@emmo999 well coming from you, as a driver that just confirms it then hahaha, they seem to be so well made for a 90s train. It's so surprising that they work well to this day,( I always get on them.)
The MetCams are a bit quicker to accelerate than their BREL (Hitachi) counterparts, but some /2s struggle at the top speed
@@emmo999 yeah I've noticed, metro cammels are alot quicker. Very impressive , they have more horse power than alot of trains I've heard lol. Even some newer ones I think. And I KNEW IT. it's seems some need a refirb because some /2s are more powerful than others I've noticed
The /2 and /9 are a bit faster to pull away from a standing start, but take longer to get to maximum speed. The /0 and /1 get to 75mph quicker but are a bit slower pulling away from
0
Nice video 👍
What's the distance of the journey ? Enjoyed the video
Nice easy peaceful trip.
St. Johns and Military Bridge. The location of the 1957 train crash yet how many people today know this fact?
I am from c2c territory out of fenchurch street to shoeburyness. I am a passenger not z driver though, i have been on sarf eastern when i worked at deptford, and used to get train from gravesend semi fast to abbey wood, and off we would go to charlton for our sins
from the sounds of it..its a class 465
What an awful grind of rails outside of cannon Street and lewisham - it must drive the locals nuts! I wonder if there is an ammeter in the cab so you can avoid the motors from being burnt out from too much current especially when you really floored it after London bridge? Did you ever accidentally forget to stop at a station on route?
I never forgot to stop anywhere, but I always checked when stopped what my next stop was. There is no ammeter in modern units, as electronics control the power output to make sure you don’t overload anything
I was at Elmers End one day years ago waiting for a train to London, when a green heritage unit pulled in as part of an 8 carriage consist. Would that have been a 4SUB or a 4EPB?
Hard to tell without seeing it, but possibly EPB 5001 which ran in geeen
It must have been around the time that the new stock was coming in, and they laid it on as a treat for us. I worked at Elmers End for six years, and I remember the link to Woodside Park being taken out, and the bay platform being altered for Tramlink.
Bill Cobbett I grew up in Woodside & it was a special treat to go up on the two car carriage from Woodside to Elmers End then up to Charing Cross to see the Christmas lights
Pray tell, what do engineers call that slip diamond crossing if you will that our train plies at 1:12:08? Are its rails manœuvred so as to be less noisy when traveled over than if they were merely static, or is either space or the angle of attack too tight? Does such a dynamic diamond ever get its own signal?
trainrover Switch diamonds. Yes, they manoeuvre according to the route set, this being with the main signal (no need for its own). Allows a smoother ride over the diamond
emmo999 will
Bring back steam LOL!
what is the departure time?
Just wondering, why all the random pieces of rails in the middle of the mainlines? Are they there for a reason? We never see that here in usa
Tim Daugherty Most likely in readiness for track renewal, or because the track gang hasn't removed old replaced track
Cannon Street is centrally located, in the City of London, so is Charing Cross, just a few minutes walk from Trafalgar Square.
Delay at Catford Bridge then😮
In and around London can anyone estimate the amount of land dedicated to rail infrastructure?
A lot out of ten.
What type of train is this?
anthony smith This is a 465/0 or a 465/1. A BREL Networker
at 34:51 passing the back of my school
So when was Spa road crossover taken out?
When the London Bridge rebuild was taking place around 2016. With the Thameslink lines down the middle, the crossover was removed so they were not impeded. Blue Anchor junction was a bottleneck with TL trains crossing on the level. Now they’ve have a dedicated flyover, so equally there are not scheduled moves between the CHX and CST sides approaching LBG
How did you get access to the cab?
Driver hello?
Is it me or has the driver got rhe train to himself. Dont see many passengers at the stations
Filmed September 2015. Would likely have been filmed between the rush hours when passenger levels are obviously quieter
@@emmo999 thanks for the info emmo,
Was evening rush hour. At London Bridge southbound, listening to the station announcement I think it was a bit after 5 pm. Service would have been pretty much entirely homeward bound commuters alighting en route and absolutely no-one .interested in going back into London. Some leavers were obviously saying thanks at New Beckenham as they passed the driver on their way out beyond the fence.
Network Rail should seriously consider putting in some rail-greasers on the curve at Lewisham. That flange-noise must drive anyone living nearby mad.
Not a railroader are you? Flanges screaming like that is music to any engineers ears
Some trains have onboard greasers. Too much grease can cause wheel slips.
Which trains are these??
Either a networker or a class 376
465/1
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A railway due to be closed, if sanitity prevailed. There are very few passengers, or customers as they are to be known. What a waste.
That would be because the video was not taken in the rush hour
Looked like a good fair amount of 'customers' alighting at London Bridge! :D
Each station on the line is used by between 800,000 and 2.5 million people per year. Hardly considered viable for closure.