The Sims 2 Has BETTER GRAPHICS Than The Sims 4
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2024
- This video is a comparison between The Sims 2 & The Sims 4. It demonstrates how TS2's graphics are much more advanced & detailed than TS4's, especially for its time!
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🚨For clarity purpose🚨 : TS4 overall graphics obviously look better than TS2 simply because it is the most recent game.
However TS2 uses really detailed & complex technology for its time.
They did the best with what they had & it paid off considering how it beats TS4 in many graphic details, as shown in this video.
On the contrary it is blatant that TS4 doesn't take full advantages of the technologies availabe for todays games, especially considering it came out in 2014!
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Comparing TS4 with TS2 only shows that using newer technology is one thing, but talent and passion are more important.
@@Kazeira they also made a great choice with art direction in TS2. This game still looks amazing with some default CC skin and lightning mod. Animations in this game are absolutely beautiful and lively
sims 4 look like the My Sims games, like everything is made out of dough
@@ember9361 At least My Sims is going for cute stylized art style. Unlike Sims 4...
Honestly I hate how EA is trying to make Sims 4 accessible to the worst PCs out there, it's so unfair to us simmers with higher end PCs since we get a severe lack of content and ugly graphics in return.
TS2 was a labour of love and passion project. TS4 is a soulless, bland, and unloved cash grab.
Fr it's so obv
And TS5 will be even worse, at this point Life By You and Paralives could take over the life Sim genre if EA keeps on doing the bare minimum for everything.
Now I'm starting to think of Maxis made the right call giving the Sims rights to EA
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this main PARLIVES NOT ONLY THE GRAPHICS ARE AWFUL, BUT THE GAME WILL BE IN EARLY ACCESS THE SAME APPLIES TO LIFE BY YOU
@@Atsuhiko8888
what really blows me away in the Sims 2 is that the pizzas are divided in 8 slices that can be clicked individually. The sim will take that specific slice and that exact slice will be missing from the box afterwards.
I think the chessboard thing is even more incredible (comparing it with TS4).
You can perfectly identify what each piece is, the Sims pick them up and move them individually, they're in the specific place where the sim left them. They don't disappear or teleport, the board doesn't change as if several pieces had been moved at the same time.
It has different game animations and children climb on books to play.
@@chitose4199 yes!
@@chitose4199 I remember reading someone say that the Sims in Sims 2 do ACTUAL chess plays, not just random moves
@@claralima1967 If you watch TS4 (I don't know about TS3 too), the sims take the pieces and leave them anywhere on the board. These pieces reappear in a different place, while others also move or disappear as if they had been eliminated (even on the first move).
I don't know if TS2 follow any kind of playing technique, not that I understand much about chess, but if you watch them play, It's like you really watching a chess game.
@@claralima1967 Yup, they did. And the meaner sims would also cheat at chess!
not to mention THE HAIR MOVEMENT IN TS2
Absolutely!
Sims 3 didnt have any hair physics or pool physics either so if you wanna hate on the sims 4 for not having those things than you should call out the the sims 3 as well I'm just saying xd
@@BeautyQueen2023Xjust completely missing the point to be a pendant about irrelevant stuff
@@BeautyQueen2023X Is this video about the Sims 3 though? No. And because you want to put Sims 3 on the same level as 4, it was actually less detailed than 2 but was still way more detailed than 4.
It had physics! s4 literally could not
Also, the aims 4 is super quiet compared to all of the older games. The sims rarely make any noise at all and it's a little weird. In the sims 2, you can even hear the neighborhood dogs barking at night. I love it.
My favourite one is the creepy "unknown" noises around gravestones at night. I actually got scared the first time... I thought he will come out as a zombie... 😅
Don't know if you remember it, but back when the Sims 2 released, before it even had dogs and cats, you'd still hear those dogs barking! You couldn't have one yet, and there was no guarantee dogs would ever be in-game, but it still added to the atmosphere of living in a neighborhood where there were other people, some of whom would definitely have dogs.
Not to mention the humming of the PC, the fridge, crickets chirping at night, birds in daytime etc. Ambient sound is barely heard, but it is noticeable when it is missing!
@@brassbucklesBarking sound was added with Pets EP.
Sims 4 so bland. It's like there is either nothing happening at all or everything is happening at once. Random stuff like vampires showing up to my door is cool and all but if I've just been sitting there doing nothing but spamming the same exact success or fail animation for the past 40 mins because the game is borderline grindy I'm just not going to be up for it. I want something more down to earth like noticing for the first time that when the children jump on the couch the cushions move up and down.
The way sims in Sims 4 look around and their eyes is very... weird. It's like they're constantly on happy drugs, they don't look alive at all, jesus
Thier actions and atittude is way too off putting
Not to mention when they fucking go texting all the time while they walk from one point to another. Annoying af
They look cartoonish and creepy. The movements are so over exaggerated. Give me smaller, finer details any day!
Ugh, tell me about it!
I cannot stand how they always have that dumb smile on their faces all the time. The super repetitive idle giggles and whatnot also get annoying so fast.
@@lug358I hate the constant texting!! I have a granny Sim and it so off putting to see her doing that. A teen is fine, but an old lady? Come on!!
I'm so sorry... but I can't get over the ... st*pid constant smiling of the sims in Sims 4... 😂
They look so punchable fr
It's so cartoonish
Same it's irritating with how they're always :D lol.
Why did you censor "stupid"?
(Genuenly curious)
Same! It infuriates me😂😂 As if I wasn’t infuriated enough by Sims 4😂
Also, in The Sims 2 there are hair physics, couch cushion physics and pool physics. Mind blowing!
very sad that only Sims 2 has pool physics
I understand that couch physics and hair physics would've been really hard to implement in the later games due to different hair models and couch models but pool physics... From what I heard it's an animation so it's so easy to add that into the later games yet EA didn't add them.
Sims 3 didnt have any hair physics or pool physics either so if you wanna hate on the sims 4 for not having those things than you should call out the the sims 3 as well I'm just saying xd
@@BeautyQueen2023XSims 3 brought in so much to the game graphics that these little things just do not matter that much...For example Sims 3 worlds are just beautiful... and they really feel alive.
i love the sims franchise but i feel like EA company didnt care about the sims4/the sims franchise it really irks me how they leave for rent with broken pack i might save my money and bought paralives/life by you when it comes out :)
Can't relate when people say "want x and y from sims 2 and 3, but graphics like Sims 4". It's so weirdly cartonish, bland and everything has low resolution. Let's not even mention the jumpy animations and ugly, constant smiles. Made me resent my own sims when I played Sims 4.
Hell, in Sims 2 you even hear buzzing from electronics during night which makes it feel more alive.
Yeah these jumpy animations combined with the incessant smiling & random onomatopoeia really makes it seem like they are on heavy medication 💀💀
I love how TS4 cas is very flexible in terms of sliders, but TS2 has everything I love and need graphics-wise. If I could have Sims 2 and 3 combined with best of it's features I'd be forever happy
Idd rather have the sims from the sims 2 or 4 than the pudding faces looking sims from the sims 3 oops
the Sliders from TS4 would be decent if they worked as they should, Body Sliders were quite a nice commodity that I do miss going back to the earlier games, but I Do miss the Gameplay of the Earlier titles...and how Sims AREN'T Trying to drink 500 Cups of Water, Tea or Coffee til they Pee themselves, or playing on a computer for 2 days straight til they get out their chair and die
Same!!
the grass texture in ts4 💀💀💀
ye like someone threw a bucket of green paint and that was it
It’s ridiculous
For real. I thought that is in low settings
The first thing that put me off the game, the radioactive grass
Carpet in Sims 4 looked like someone spilled paint on the sidewalk and it dried up.
Sims 2 made with heart and soul
Sims 4 made with
money greed :)
The sims 4 , just made...
Ai would even do better
sims 4 made with fart and hole 👎🏻
@@kimirakash999AI is improving so quickly that lazy devs like this are going to be quickly and swiftly replaced... Unfortunately they still don't realize this.
Is incredible that a 20 years old videogame is better in almost everything. We just need a remastering of The Sims 2
Клянусь, если бы вышел ремастер the sims 2, я бы его сразу же купила!
@@oxanabread4649 Only one word: da!
I've always said that too but tbh after seeing this video... most of it already looks better than TS4! They just need some edge smoothing on the sims and more realistic eyes, maybe a better CAS, updated items to bring it into 2024. That's really it. If they polished it up even more it would be amazing. TS4 has no life at all
@@NoteToLoser Add more body types in TS2 and is the best Sims game. I mean, you can already change the width of Sims with cheats.
That's why you can't buy it anymore and you have to make a workaround to start Sims 3...
1:50 - also the animation...TS2: *actually focused on work and looks serious at the screen*
TS4: YES, Hello I am A Sim! I am in a Happy moodlet of Doing a Thing! Because I have emotions, see? I'm not sure what emotions are, so I'll smile just in case you will miss the Emotion happening!
the emotions system is the reason why sims in sims 4 are dumb as hell.
Omg yes! I knew something was off but I couldn’t put it into words
Honestly the emotion system seemed like a really nice concept but they really executed it horribly in Sims 4, I feel like the best way to implement it is by combining moodlets and emotions.
I mean... when they've announced the new emotion system, I was like... "But... Sims always had emotions..." Sims 1 Sims cry if they are in a bad mood, Sims 2 sims express a variety of emotions depending on their recent happenings in their lives, Sims 3 even included moodlets so we can check their feelings...
I remember watching the "Gameplay" of the Sims 4... feeling empty and cringe after it... Felt like watching a cartoon and not a sneak peak into a complex life sim...😅
I think they'd have been better off with 5 starting traits, more variety in trait personalities, less focus on emotions, and Sims 2 style memories in Sims 4. By which I mean to say, memories would get recorded but not in a way that devours the game's memory (which is why those of us who played Sims 3 usually turned off memories entirely, only taking specific ones if we used the feature at all). Memories still exist in Sims 4, but it's basically a forgotten feature that hardly anyone seems to use. Anyway my point is, with more focus on who a character is and the life they've lived, a character seems more alive. Emotions are part of people, but people are not just walking emotions. People are made of their traits and experiences, and emotions follow those.
I don't even understand why everyone thinks that Sims 4 has the best graphics, it literally looks like a mobile game.
Sims 2 had the best furniture models and sims while Sims 3 had the best environment lighting and atmosphere, there is literally nothing that Sims 4 did better in terms of graphics.
The sims 3 graphics are fucking ugly and so are the sims people only like the game because of the open world and stupid color wheel
Oh please the sims 3 graphics were ugly as well and the sims in the sims 4 looks way better than the sims 3 sims you all only like the sims 3 because of the open world and color wheel but everything else sucks
@Queen2023X If you're just going to complain about Sims 3, don't reply to my comment. I do not want toxic entitled Sims 2 simmers who spend no time looking into what Sims 3 did good replying to my comments.
Don't assume things too! If I saw someone say that they preferred Sims 2 over Sims 3, I would be fine with it, but if they're saying things like "No no, stop defending Sims 3 because it's trash", or "You guys only like Sims 3 because of Open World and Color Wheel", it's just unacceptable.
I actually think the CAS and Sims body shapes are best in Sims 4, but I miss how exaggerated you could make their features in Sims 2. Texture-wise, Sims 4 is seriously lacking, though at least some of that is intentional since it released almost ten years ago and was meant to run on low-end computers even then. I'm not a fan of the anime style hair, but I don't hate it as much as some others do.
I still play and enjoy Sims 4, but I also sometimes go back to both Sims 2 and 3 because they have other things to offer that they did better than the Sims 4. Sims 2 had the most attention to detail in its objects and animations. I remember being disappointed with Sims 3 compared to the Sims 2 when it first came out, but by the time several expansions had released, it had come into its own. Despite its flaws, I feel like Sims 4 is finally kind of getting to a point where it has some worthwhile gameplay. It's not as deep as Sims 2 or 3, but it can be enjoyed.
@@brassbucklesafter 1214 dollars of game it better be
Why are sims in the sims 4 ALWAYS smiling like mental crazy people. It's super creepy.
But it pairs well with the "Creepy walk".... makes them look like true psychos.
Since you mentioned the floor texture: sound of your sim's footsteps changes depending on the floor. That's a really nice touch there
It also changes depending on what shoe type was coded into the clothing
Alot of older games did that. Unlike nowadays where if you can't see it with your eyeballs or it's easy to miss then it's not important.
Sims 2 was peak Sims. Will Wright at the helm, a passion project filled with love. Then we got Sims 3 and omg even more awesome and hello? Sims Medieval? 👌 And then it died.
Whenever people say Sims 2 graphics are outdated, please watch this video before you judge.
For me Sims 2 still looks good without mods. 20 years later it still holds up!
I play it without mods and still enjoy it so much. Sims have a lot of expression and movement, even their hair has graphics.
Besides, after a while of playing the sims 2, those "aged graphics" stop bothering you cuz the game is actually fun to play with.
On the other hand, the sims 4 dont look that good, are lazy animated, the lack expressions they just made them goofy af all the time, i hate that they walk anywhere with their phone texting... and the game is boring af after 10 mins of gameplay, also nothing works and you have to pretend like things are happening in the sims 4. It is a scam game not to mention all the overpriced packs.
I play it without mods and still enjoy it so much. Sims have a lot of expression and movement, even their hair has graphics.
Besides, after a while of playing the sims 2, those "aged graphics" stop bothering you cuz the game is actually fun to play with.
On the other hand, the sims 4 dont look that good, are lazy animated, the lack expressions they just made them goofy af all the time, i hate that they walk anywhere with their phone texting... and the game is boring af after 10 mins of gameplay, also nothing works and you have to pretend like things are happening in the sims 4. It is a scam game not to mention all the overpriced packs.
I play it without mods and still enjoy it so much. Sims have a lot of expression and movement, even their hair has graphics.
Besides, after a while of playing the sims 2, those "aged graphics" stop bothering you cuz the game is actually fun to play with.
On the other hand, the sims 4 dont look that good, are lazy animated, the lack expressions they just made them goofy af all the time, i hate that they walk anywhere with their phone texting... and the game is boring af after 10 mins of gameplay, also nothing works and you have to pretend like things are happening in the sims 4. It is a scam game not to mention all the overpriced packs.
The graphics being outdated doesn't mean it doesn't look good, though. Technically, the graphics of Shovel Knight are outdated, since it's... well, pixel art. But the game is gorgeous.
The beauty of the Sims 2 lies in the details (and also one's art style preference, of course).
2 holds up better than 3 or 4 as 3 was too uncanny valley and 4 looks like it wants to be like tf2 without the effort
9:07 fun fact the sims 2 had reflective flooring in the beta but due to performance issues they scrapped it. game was truly beyond its time.
planar reflections were well known and established by 2004. It causes issues because you're literally rendering everything twice from different angles. Half-Life 2, released around the same time, also limited reflections to water only (like pools in sims 2). It's nothing unusual for the time, really.
Why is no one talking about the Sim looking back and forth between the keyboard and computer screen? Like I do that so much in real and it's so accurate. The way the Sims in Sims 4 constantly look at the screen is something I never really paid attention to until now.
And why is EA obsessed with making the Sims 4 so dark???
And the fact that in the sims 2 she doesn't even smile, it's much more realistic.
@@justme_aleksandra literally, the only time I smile at my computer is when I watch something funny and that's it. Anything else, I'm staring blankly at the screen
This is a Rabbit hole lol. Do you know how many lil details the sims 2 has that was shown in that clip alone meanwhile the sims 4 sims just smile all creepy like.
@@cendresaphoenix1974 my least favourite thing about Sims 4 is when they burst into laughter while literally doing nothing or while they're eating. Like stop!
lol and people often say sims 5 needs to have the gameplay of sims 2 and the open world of sims 3 and the graphics of sims 4 while sims 4 suck at everything because that game wasn't even planned to be a sims 4 at the start😂😂
Hm? What are You talking about?
@@honeyy9559 Sims 4 was actually an online project, but after the failure of sim city online, EA cancelled the online game, and made the team repurpose it to the sims 4, which is why there were so many features missing. The game was made on a limited engine that is better for online games, but worse for an extremely big offline game like sims is supposed to be.
@@luameduardo9611 omg... No wonder is trash
One detail i love in TS2 is how vending machines will cast light, and the color will match the color of the machine. It looks so nice at night!
Fr every texture in sims 4 looks flat and in low resolution and sims hair look like on a head of Lego human xD
Sims 2 somehow managed to keep realistic graphics while not being overly realistic and sims 4 has just plastic and cartoonish style.
Also it wasn't shown in here but pool water in sims 2 vaporize when it's cold
The flat look was a style choice. They wanted cartoon/anime-looking Sims, and minimalist textures enabled the game to run on lower-end computers on release.
But some of the clothing is blurry, and some of it is extremely detailed in a way that looks odd with Sims who otherwise look more like cel-shaded cartoons.
Also, even the textures on child and up Sims look better than the food textures, the baby textures, the trash textures... So the lack in those areas is really egregious.
TS2 on release already was soo ambitious game and ahead of it's time. Imagine how many amazing feature they didn't have a time or resources to implement but already planned. I read that they were supposed to have ambulances, more scripted parties and events etc in a base game. If I remember correctly people were able to found traces of those features in code in SimPE
Ambulances exist, as a carpool.
We knew back then that weather was supposed to be in BG but postponed due to a bug...
1:49 Note that in The Sims 2 the hair of the character who sits at the computer moves 😮
Sims 3 didnt have any hair physics or pool physics either so if you wanna hate on the sims 4 for not having those things than you should call out the the sims 3 as well I'm just saying xd
@@BeautyQueen2023Xsims 3 have open world, great adventures and more amazing things. Sims 4 have that? -no. In 2,3 part you can feel how city living, but not in 4.
P. S. EA, get log in
Sorry for my English. I hope you get what I mean
@@BeautyQueen2023X gurl leave the middle child out of this 😭
from the moment sims 4 launched in 2014, i never felt that attraction i felt from sims 2 or 3. i don’t even play sims 4 because of how soulless it is
Please do one when they do interactions on each other. In the sims 4 you can do a mean interaction and then once its finished, they hug each other and laugh with each other smh
I always hear people say they want sims 5 to have sims 2 gameplay and sims 4 graphics and i'm always confused. How is the low rez clay texture of EVERYTHING in ts4 something to be desired?
i seriously don’t get why people wouldn’t want better graphics.
At this point, they should actually take inspiration from inZOI and Paralives instead of the older Sims games if they want to make Sims 5 look good in the 2020s.
Pudding texture
fr like why do they want everything to look like cheap plastic? theres also the problem of all the super low poly objects that wouldnt be out of place in a 90s game
Aliexpress sims hahaha
The Sims 4's textures lack so much details that the game looks almost gouraud shaded next to The Sims 2.
"Unfinished" it's the word...
it’s looking like Paralives is following in the footsteps of the Sims 2
have u seen inZOI yet?
sims 4 is like the dollhouse in the sims 2 💀
If anything this made me realise how desaturated the colour pallet is in Sims 4. Everything looks so... grey.
this is why i absolutely adore the various material selections and color wheel in the Sims 3
Yea it just looks so dead...
Even the smalles tiniest objects in The Sims 2 are incredibly detailed, it blows my mind how much better everything looks compared to 4, the polycount is incredible for 2004
Life by you will be TS4 for me and it is coming out soon
I audibly laughed when the pizza was shown. How is it that bad 😭
that's why i'll never understand why people say TS4s selling point is the ''high quality graphics''
game has always looked like dogshit to me. even the way sims are stylized look ugly, uncanny clay looking cartoon characters.
When talking only about sims art style, sims 2 does it much better, specially female sims, they look so pretty a lot of times. The babies might look a big weird tho.
Sims 4 sims art style kinda reminds me to those generic youtube kids videos, or those generic mobile games that try to copy the fortnite style.
Or fornite copied the sims because s4 was released before fortnite.
@@BuutFlier nah, fortnite became its own thing and it came after the sims 4, i was just trying to give an example, not to be accurate with the dates, my bad.
look up project olympus. it was developed as a mobile game (one of the reasons their engine is so trash)
The Sim 2 looked this good right from the very beginning. On top of that, it had great gameplay which kept getting better. I don't even know what the money was spent on when they developed TS4 - it clearly wasn't graphics or basic-level game elements.
Making it an MMO...
I seem to recall it was originally meant to be always-online, but the always-online Sim City reboot had released to intense criticism and a lot of players were dissatisfied. EA took the hint and decided to make the Sims 4 an offline single-player game, which... is what people tend to want when they play the Sims. I'm sure there are people who do want an online multiplayer Sims, but personally I don't want someone else in my neighborhood potentially doing things like breaking up my families or sabotaging my Sims' friendships--or worse.
@@brassbucklesAt least EA listened to players on one thing...
@@StarchildMagicno they are clearly doing that for project rene, just postponed their goal
They made sims 4 cartoonish so it can run on any bad computer
and also they keep releasing useless stuff to earn them more money
That game is just a money machine and i don't even like it.
I have to say the Sims 2 is superior in every way. So much thought and love went into the game and it showed. The Sims 4 could never!!!
FINALLY someone pointing this out!! It always bugs me how ppl say TS4 looks so amazing, when I've been thinking it looks made out of plastic, ever since it came out. Textures are nearly non-existent in that mess of a game.
I've honestly seen miniature plastic food that looks better than what's in TS4. Let's be fair to plastic food, lol.
I think ppl are so blinded by cc they forget how ugly the vanilla game actually is
TS4 looks cartoonish and far too simple
I remember when I first played ts4 I was surpised how bland the light was! Adding more windows did not helped, lights were dull, I had a feeling that my house is so dark. Also when you chage the time of the day in building mode it does absolutely...nothing. I was so disappointed :(
Honestly, idc what anyone says, sims 2 sims define what sims should look like, idc if its an old game, that is what sims should look like,i love sims 3 tho a good middle ground
The sims 3 graphics were ugly as well and the sims in the sims 4 looks way better than the sims 3 sims you all only like the sims 3 because of the open world and color wheel but everything else sucks
idfc about how good the sims look, its weather the game has the sims feel ad the sims soul and 3 still had it @@BeautyQueen2023X
sims 3 has the sims soul and feel, unlike sims 4, you can imp sims 4 idc, but im not going to argue with you@@BeautyQueen2023X
If a game could be released with the adjustable body and face meshes of Sims 4, plus the ability to make features extreme like in Sims 2, and with a more detailed/cleaner/updated version of the Sims 2 style textures, that'd be ideal. Or, you know, Baldur's Gate 3 style textures would suit me too.
Nah man, dont touch my sims 2 models, there perfect i dont want any of the sims 4 stink on sims 2 or even 3@@brassbuckles
you should've played the sims 1 horror music, when you zoomed in on the sims 4 baby's face. 😂
The weird thing about that TS4 baby is if you really look at the two babies side-by-side, you can see that the TS4 baby has a higher-poly mesh. Why, then, did they give it a lower-resolution texture than in Sims 2? They had to know that people tend to zoom in and take closeup pics of their Sims' babies.
@@brassbuckles I honestly don't know why they did that, but it seems like TS4 could've looked a LOT nicer. 🙃
You should have shown the texture of the rose bushes in sims 2. They are legit so pretty
I remember back in the day you had 4 different CDs just to download the base game of Sims 2. I'm starting to realize why, the game has a lot of details I took for granted as a kid 😔
the sims2 it had will wright he left 2008 if he worked on the sims 4 it would have so much love like the sims 2 did the sims was his baby like SimCity
You missed the fact that hairstyles in ts2 are *animated*. Most cc creators don't match that even if cc otherwise is often more detailed.
TS2 also had much larger object texture sizes. TS4 often maxes objects out at 512x512, TS2's average is double that
Its because its engine was never designed to be able to run a proper version of the game. The Sims 4 was planned to be an online game, with MMO features like The Sims 1 with Sims FreePlay concepts. The limited textures may have been put there to allow the game to load easily.
If you swapped positions, 2 would look like the sequel to 4 lol
You arent wrong.
Without going into stylistic choices - Sims 2 has a lot of love for details, did run great and provided a solid game play experience. Sims 4 provides a great tool for building.
I personally am not the biggest fan of the textures painted on in Sims 2 but I holds itself still while this technic is used in some packs in Sims 4 as well while they are able to do more and show more in other instances.
Well the Sims 2 was made like over a decade ago
I hate everything about the S4, the lazy animations, boring gameplay - no wonder the S4 simers, usually doing challange and youtuble shorts - and the stupid smile on the sims face, it's kill me... The only thing i could dissagree the hair one. The sims3 doesn't have hair physic too, but the other hand, the hair isn"t look like made of clay that one.
watching this video in the middle of that dumpster fire that the sims 4 team has lit under their butts after the latest update. 10/10 experience, would do it again 💅🏻✨
4:14 They didn't even bother to add fire under the pot, while The Sims 2 even had it animated to flicker
It's an electric stove.
@@AnnaKokoro Wouldn't a spiral "burner" like this one heat up until red while cooking on it? A flat one might not, but spiral ones... 🤔
To be fair the sims 4 cooker is electronic. And I feel like they didnt have the hob glow because its not as if it would be too visible.
bought sims 4 base game when it came out. played a couple hours, saw how bad it was and immediately went back to Sims 2. Haven't played Sims 4 since.
Honestly the 1st thing I noticed when I played Sims 2 on my 4K monitor were the toilets 🤣 I was amazed at how a 2003 game looked better than a 2014 one.
Y'all I was really convinced you just recorded your backyard for that grass.
With Sims 4, some things have a higher polygon count and a higher resolution for textures, but other things have a weirdly low resolution and/or poly count (like the food and trash) and the overall style is intentionally minimalist. Sims 2 was exaggerated/cartoony, but generally more detailed.
One thing that struck me was that although some of the images you showed have a better poly count/seem smoother in Sims 4, the textures were often far worse, especially on smaller objects. Babies, for instance, seemed to have more polygons/smoother edges in Sims 4 than in Sims 2, but the textures used are terribly low-res. By contrast, the ceiling lights you showed seemed to have smoother edges in Sims 2, which is odd. And despite the Sims 2 plates having less jagged edges, they didn't have any further details. I did think the texture for water in Sims 4 looked better, even if the shaders and reflections weren't as detailed and well-done as in Sims 2.
Sims 2 was superior in terms of sheer level of detail. The animations were great, too. Sims had more detailed animations when performing actions such as cooking. Would love to see how some of its items, animations, and lighting effects compare to Sims 3 in a side-by-side, also.
I'd guess that part of the low detail on items and lighting in Sims 4 is because the team was for some reason not granted the manpower or budget to put that kind of detail in. That may be partly because the Sims 4 was originally conceived of as a fully online and possibly mobile or mobile hybrid game (which also explains a bit about the UI), and part of it was likely because the team didn't think details on smaller items would matter since they assumed players wouldn't be zooming in on them much. You can really tell that the Sims 2 team deeply cared about the details and how the game would be received. The Sims 1 had been a massive success, but there was no guarantee at that time that the Sims 2 would share that success. Then by the time the Sims 4 was worked on, it was created by a much smaller team mostly because all previous mainline Sims games had been successful. Sims 4 had no competition other than previous entries in the franchise, so it was more or less a guaranteed success no matter what the team did.
I actually play and enjoy the Sims 4, and I think now that it has some more content both in base game and expansions than it had on release, there are some things it does better than previous games. But I still find myself going back to Sims 2 and Sims 3 and my reasons tend to involve gameplay and detail more than nostalgia.
It concerns me that the developers have made it clear they intend to make the next Sims a mobile crossover. Even with a separate graphical environment on PC, it's still meant to be multiplayer and microtransactional, and will likely have toned-down graphics even on the PC version. Hopefully Paralives and Life By You will be competitive enough to force EA to do more than the bare minimum for their next Sims game and I'll be proven wrong. But as far as loyalty to the Sims? I don't really have any if someone else releases a superior product that does all or most of the same things.
I honestly geniunely enjoy the graphics in sims 2 than any other sims game, I don’t really understand when people say they want x sim game with sims 4 graphics, I kinda really hate how sims 4 looks, everything looks like clay and just dull, sims 2 has so much life and such a wonderful aesthetic to it! The sims 2 graphics have so much charm, while sims 4 just look soulless (like the whole game)
I always felt the sims 4 graphics is similar to what my vision looks like before an eye exam 😂.
Water in TS2 has an actual PHYSICS... 2004 game has better PHYSICS ENGINE! 2004 GAME VS 2014 GAME WITH SUPPORT TO THIS DAY, COME ON
And if you put items from TS4 to TS2 they look even better!
True, although I don't really do it that often with clothes... I find some clothes in the Sims 4... a bit too much
I love sims 2 to this day. But I do like 4 too. I like to think of 4 as a modernized yet watered down remake of Sims 2.
I think that's basically what it is: an attempt to remake Sims 2, with some amount of the open world of Sims 3. But they somehow failed to capture the charm and gameplay depth of Sims 2 in the process. I still play it and enjoy it, and I think some of the expansions have given it more depth than it had at release. It's still weirdly shallow compared to Sims 2 or Sims 3, though, like it's more about how your digital Barbies look than how a digital person or family lives. It used to feel a bit more like the devs had a specific way you were "supposed" to play Sims 4, but more recent packs have felt to me like they might offer more options. Your mileage may vary on that though. And of course they did patch out the ability to do things like have a baby with the Grim Reaper, or have vampires actually be menacing and break into your home.
light from windows doesn't even cast on sims in ts4, it does in ts2
I can't believe TS2 is 20 years old. I mean.. I'm not even 30 and I was playing it obsessively when it came out. It feels so ahead of its time, even to this day. Sims 4 on the other hand... Great gowns, beautiful gowns.
Random thing I learned about the Sims 2 a few nights ago.
My sim was out late on the town and needed a ride home. They called for a taxi around 2am. Nothing. They called again around 3:30. Nothing. They called 1 more time closer to 4:20 and finally got a ride home.
Something like that would have been a problem 2 decades ago! 😂
I lost it at the food lmaaaaooooo
Sims 4 babies are cursed.
I agree, TS2 was the peak of The Sims games. But just a few notes as a bit of a context from someone who's played since TS1:
- TS2 was amazing, but it took forever to load. When you opened the game it could easily be 10 minutes or more of looking at the load screen and sometimes wondering 30 minutes later if it's still actually loading or has the whole thing just frozen. For the reflections you had to put your graphic settings to max and it made the game too heavy for many computers to run properly.
- In TS3 they added the open world everyone really wanted. But the game itself was larger and it needed more memory and overall better specs to run properly, so a lot of people had to buy new computers, which wasn't often possible and people were obviously upset. So the biggest issue EA faced at this point was that a whole lot of the players aren't really "gamers" as in they don't already have expensive gaming computers with the best graphic cards.
- So when TS4 was announced, they said that they wanted to make the game lighter, that it would run even with older computers and it would open fast. For that they had to ditch the completely open world and construct the cities with smaller areas that are open to explore. This also the reason for the simpler graphics.
- They also made a lot of changes to the UI and how the game works. Like the emotions. Many say they don't affect the sims enough and I agree to some level, but for example the social menu that expands and the options change with different moods. Also strong emotions like anger or sadness do change the sims' expressions and overall behaviour. IIRC this was already in itself such a big change that better graphics would've made the game way heavier to run.
- Also: the sims can now scoot when there's less space 🤩 And you don't have to wait forever behind a door to wait for everyone else to get in first. When I played TS3 University, most of the game days were spent walking to places and waiting in front of them to get in. My sims missed their graduation party because there was too many sims in the way 🤷♀🤣
- Also I love that the sims can now do multiple things at the same time. I don't know why reading a book while sitting on the toilet is the first thing that comes to mind, but anyway 😂
- So yeah, for me playing TS4 is more relaxed as there's less frustration because my adhd ass doesn't have to constantly wait for things to happen 🤣 Also if you're a story writer like me and take a lot of screenshots to be used in the stories, TS4 is seriously a gold mine because of the emotions. The constant smiling IS annoying and it means I have to manage all the sims in the background so they don't just stand there smiling and looking like an idiot, but there's still a whole lot to work with. A lot of different animations and expressions you can use once you get your sims in the right mood.
- But all that being said I do love TS2 over everything else, I miss it a lot and wish I could play it again😭
Hopefully, Paralives takes inspiration from the first three Sims games. I also hope they use TS4 as a valuable lesson on what not to do.
Doubt it, sims 5 is planned to do what the Sims 4 originally set up as, exist as a multiplayer game
Another fabulous video! I love that you do these. All the details the original Maxis team put in are freakin fabulous! Sims 2 definitely best game! :D I hope this new Maxis team watches and studies your videos!!
i effing luv ur videos u deserve way more subscribers omg
I'm going to play the sims 2 again.
I used to be a Sims 4 hater until I really got into it, sure it has it's flaws but it's got a lot of quality of life stuff that the older games are really missing. I really enjoy the collection tracker and not having to befriend random Sims just to get a job promotion like in TS2. Moods and emotions are a fun gameplay element, and it's really cool being able to play the game in first person and see the things you built from that perspective. Not to mention the super quick loading times in TS4 especially compared to TS3.
Of course each Sims game has it's own merits and charms, they are all good games and it really comes down to what type of experience you're looking for. I have fond memories with TS2, TS3, and TS4 spending hundreds if not thousands of hours on each one. I only haven't played the first one because getting it to run on modern systems is a nightmare, not to mention the videos I've seen making it seem like it's really difficult to thrive in that version. It's hard enough in TS2, so I'll stick with it and the others and just enjoy them all depending on how I'm feeling in the moment.
I will say I do like the instant light effect in Sims 4's build/buy mode, because it instantly shows you what the room lighting looks like depending where you place it. Everything else in Sims 2 is top tier though
Paralives, Life By You and inZOI are finally giving this niche genre some much needed competition.
At first I was like OMG how dare you but then I watched ur vid and I was like OMG you are so right , loving those details and attention sprinkled here & there
I swear Sims 2 is just leagues better than Sims 4
The sims 2 was really a game they were looking forward to, trying to show the public how far the life sim games could go and how much potential they could have in the future. When they reached sims 3, they even went higher with open worlds, but the sims 4, it is clear that it was a failure from the start, they published an unfinished game thats been 10 years in the making and it still is trash. I have been playing sims 2 exclusivelly lately and havent touched sims 4 in many months, last time i played was with the infant update.
The sims 2 and 3 will always be better, and its great that there are still communities that make mods for these trully good games. I enjoy building in the sims 4 but thats not what you play the sims for. In the sims 2 or 3 i can be hours playing without noticing, playing the sims 4 i start a family, create the sims, build a house and then do gameplay for 10mins. So boring.
i might be living in the sims4 :D the ingredients also disappear when i cancel my cooking and my fridge doesn't produce light hshaha
Sims 2 was superior in almost every way. It had heart and every expansion was worth every penny. It was amazing! Sims 4 doesn't have heart or soul, just packs of the same objects over and over that costs tons of money and they aren't even functional.
If one covered everything, this video would be over an hour…
I’m glad & lucky to have all 4 games.
Don’t forget the hair in sims 2 moves at bit too.
Also impressive considering most of The Sims 2 had to be rebuilt from the ground up after a huge server fire and continues to be the best sims game!
One of the biggest things I miss from sims 2 is house phones and getting those long paragraph scam messages. Those were amazing, sometimes they were really funny and obscure and other times they actually managed to creep little me out and I miss it so much. I wish we could have house phones in newer sims games even though they've fallen into obscurity I still think it would be neat since a lot of homes do still have them. And I wish they would have actually put effort into the scam calls in sims 4 because they're all so obvious and lame compared to the sims 2 ones. I'd love to see a video on all the funny prank/scam calls from sims 2 compared to the sims 4 ones lol.
They must have a team of creators for Sims 4 who all took a basic 10 week course on graphic design because bffr💀💀
I think what some Sims 4 players, specifically those who are actively afraid of and/or angered by criticism of their game, don't realize is that most people who don't like it aren't just trying to jump on a hate train for the sake of nostalgia. There are definitely people like that, but for the most part, we honestly just want the game to be better.
It's frustrating to see a game that was released _ten years_ after The Sims 2 initially dropped still not have the small details or the gameplay depth, because we KNOW they can do it. They HAVE done it with TS2 and (to a slightly lesser extent, or perhaps in a different way) TS3. And yet, no matter how much content they add to TS4, it just ends up feeling hollow.
Like, you're allowed to enjoy TS4 or dislike TS2, but just realize that we WANT TS4 to reach its potential. EAxis just continually chooses not to let it. Aspects of the game are actually good or even great, even if they're not perfect, but it feels like the constant pumping out of content is to their detriment. And honestly, it's...kinda obviously a cash grab-why, back in my day (I say, as someone who grew up with The Sims 3 kid and just happens to know too much about The Sims 2), our City Living, Bowling Night, and Dine Out packs all came in one expansion!
TL;DR, we want TS4 to be a better game, but EAxis seems to have no interest in it, so at this point we're just frustrated. It's not like we want to hate a Sims game for the sake of hating it. It's just odd how they put so much heart into a game from 2004 that a game from 2014 seemingly can't even match.
Well I think TS2 and TS4 use different game styles hence the lack of texture or depth...
The lack of casting or light from objects that naturally emit radiation is just unforgivable.
I love both The Sims 2 and 3 but ultimately I end up feeling more for my Sims in Sims 2. I think they just had more subtle touches to the animations, more expressive ones too. I remember playing 3 for the first time and being disappointed because the animations looked comparatively a bit lifeless compared to their Sims 2 counterparts. But I loved it regardless, and it's miles ahead of The Sims 4 in that regard too, 4 Sims look like creepy Stepford Wives.
Thank you for this video!!
The fireplace effect looks cool. It seems like they're sweeping an overlay across the texture of the furniture - really efficient if that's the case
5:20 nah, this isn't cool. I want my light to come on immediately, this was annoying. "Wondering which game uses the most recent technology" The right one, Sims 4, it doesn't have to schedule lighting calculations, wysiwyg...
7:50 that's a stylistic choice - you never hear someone say they "licked the place clean" as a compliment?
All the last points are just you disliking the game's painterly, simple style. I personally found it awful when sims 2 and 3 took a realistic texture and slapped in on something, sims 4 is drawn from scratch
Edit: about the furnishing/build mode lights - I think sims 2 is made with the assumption that the lightmap might take time to update so they couldn't have the effects show up immediately, it would risk the light lagging behind your cursor as you move around. In sims 4, they knew the system requirement allow for the lightmap to update within one frame and so there's no need for gimmicks. The "smoothness" is literally a hardware limitation
Yep there is so much more love in sims 2 than in sims 4. It was a time when they wanted to create a game that was fun.
everything in TS4 looks like plastic😭
wooden floor in sims 4 is my pain ☹
i can’t even imagine how mindblown people were when sims 2 first came out in 2004
I bought an external DVD rom to play sims 2 and was actually really blown away at how well the graphics are still holding up in 2024. Honestly such a great game with such a legacy
Wow, I never knew. What did they do? Fire all the good designers. 😮
Sims 2 didn't have better graphics, it had better ATTENTION TO DETAIL. Two very different things.
Exactly ! Thanks for this video. I've playing the Sims 2 ❤❤since the beginning and I will continue. For these reasons and a million others.
And thats why I prefer a realistic look over a cartoony look in the sims. The realistic look of sims 2 and 3 might have not aged well and cartoony is kind of timeless, but putting effort in a game just creates the better feeling, even when technologie moves on.
EA put less effort into The Sims 4 because it was supposed to be multiplayer. They realized that it was unlikely to work out well and in a very short time they rebuilt the whole game. This is not entirely the fault of the developers, but of the company that did not give time to make a good game as Sims 2 was
I guess TS4 was going for a more cartoony art style? But who the heck would want that in a game ment to be like real life? Not me!