Swinging Marble Teleporter - Marble Clock Seconds Display Pt.4
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Marble Clock Saga: • MARBLE CLOCK
In my quest to build a marble clock that displays seconds I got to a point where none of the things that I've tried worked reliably so I went back to the drawing board and after internalizing that this marble clock is in itself an absurd machine and that no one can stop me I went all in and built a contraption that at the same time that makes no sense it also works reliably and will make the clock able to work 100% of the time.
This is just one fourth of the total assembly that I have planned for the mechanism required to show one of the two digits required to show seconds and I'll probably merge this clock with the original one so It can show at the same time the complete time with hours, minutes and seconds and make some marble "music" at the same time.
From what I've experienced and If I manage to build it entirely, this will be the first clock that can be detected by a seismograph.
Marbles!!!
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Ivan, are you pleased that the wintergatan comparison components have stopped?
I think the next big project alongside this one will be a marble collector that’ll be able to separate black and white marbles for use again with the clock …and something tells me the white ones will be steel, and black ones ebony wood, and magnetism will separate the balls and send them back to the top of the clock to be used again … 😊
Why do you make your videos in English?
i would prefer it in spanish sometime is really hard to really understand what you said, no offense 😊
Hola. ¿Existe algún canal suyo sonde muestre lo mismo en español?
Entiendo perfectamente el inglés. Pero el de usted es súper ultra malo.
Saludos.
It is VERY HARD to see the DIFFERENCE between the BLACK 'marbles' and the "WHITE" 'marbles' .... I think it's because the BLACK ones still REFLECT a lot of light - There HAS TO be a way to create a BETTER CONTRAST between them... I have NO IDEA HOW tho... I just wanted you to know that it's pretty hard to tell the difference between them... :)
I find it strangely enjoyable to watch people people being driven crazy from building marble contraptions.
I find strangely enjoyable being driven by this clock too 😅
If I had a nickel for every time I saw someone go crazy from building a marble contraption on RUclips, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
crazy genius
@@davisdiercks Three. Mattias Wendel was also into marble madness.
@@Beakerbite Four. Honorable mention to Look Mum No Computer
Did anybody else set out 8 months ago to get sucked into a once-per-month saga about a marble clock? Me neither, but I'm still here for it!😂
8 months already... im losing my marbles
@alexkirwan7146 maybe you should take some *time* off
Absolutely. Can’t wait for the next episode. And you know what’s also brutally fun? Watch this with your eyes closed. I mean, just listen to him. He is king of speaking Italian using English words. Do so love that. 😊
@@alexkirwan7146 the other famus marble mashine has just passed 8 years and is far from done :)
I came in for iteration 1 of second marbles. Went back and watched the whole clock videos. Now I'm watching yet another YTer go slowly insane chasing marble contraptions.
Truly I cannot express how invested I am in this marble clock. Thank you for all the joy these videos bring me
Thank you for following along, I'm having a blast!!
Who doesn't love an over-engineered solution to a problem that nobody have? This project keeps getting crazier.
That second display is absolutely huge. I love these renaissance people sort of rediscovering what goes into engineering and the process getting there.
This is the very first time ever that someone called me a renaissance person and I don't know how to take it.
@@ivanmirandawastaken I meant is as someone that takes on a challenges and learn many different disciplines to accomplish their goal.
However, the wikipedia definition says it better:
a very clever man who is good at many different things
You take on engineering, manufacturing and all aspects of design in your creations.
@@57thorns can we also add chemistry?
@@sprite6219 Forgot about that part, the marble colouring?
@@57thorns yes
This is a beautiful "tick tock" addition for the clock!
Best part of these videos is the "yes, it works!", you can clearly see how excited and proud he is after making it work after hours of engineering :D
Absolutely loving the design process here. Absolute madness.
I love the gears and wheels and levers on this one! It looks like a proper analogue mechanism! Maybe even a little bit like the inside of a clock.
Can a marble manufacturer please sponsor this man with thousands of black and white marbles, I need to see this machine finished
This whole ordeal was actually interesting and fun to watch. And he edits and narrates things in an entertaining way! 10/10
I am seriously impressed by you. I love that you have not given up and that there will be a really cool marble clock at the end of your hard work.
"Look at me, doing small scale prototypes and everything, I don't recognize myself..." - oh man so much pain in those words.
I love the first try caveat. "Well, first try not counting all the other tries." :) Your clock is making progress. This is actually really cool to see.
This design looks so cool with the radial display and wheel driving the movement.
You are a special kind of crazy... the good kind, I love it!
a thought for seconds & numbers- you only need matrix x2 for marbles and the ability to switch each "pixel" - difficult to keep each pixel close enough with this design, but because you always know what number is next you can save on cycles.
realistically you're gonna keep a lot of this the same but an idea for sorting- have multiple slower sorters that get the discard marbles, and then merge and feed their outputs to a batch heads that can choose what marble it spits out. would allow you to feed batches of marbles to the clock simultaneously and let you have a buffer of always having the correct marble when you NEED it
1:20 you missed the opportunity to say "the best clocks work like clockwork"
I thought that was the gag, no?
I love that it now tick-tocks (clunk-clunks) and has a pendulum (but kind of upside-down) like many traditional clocks.
I love that project!!
Basically not a clock, but a clock display though 😃
Have you considered a walking beam mechanism? (I think that’s what they’re called.)
Used on egg grading machines. I bet you can make a big matrix of those and just yeet (in a controlled manner) the old marbles off the end with the new ones directly behind it. It would be like your old mechanism, but controlled by offset wobbling, not gravity.
This is an amazing engineering challenge! I am thrilled that you are doing so well with it!
Finally, a clock with gears! (I'm loving this series, can't wait to see how the final product comes out!)
Your first video making the marble clock came up on my feed randomly ages ago, since then I have been subscribed. Really enjoying the videos and journey you are on, looking forward to the next video!
Here's a thought: if you're already just forcing all the marbles out with this giant paddle, do you need the black marbles at all? You could get rid of the selector entirely and only emit silver marbles at the correct positions in the 7-segment
Viewing channels like this makes me feel like I am watching the Antikythera mechanism being rediscovered in real time.
I forget the name of the channel, but you know there is a guy re-creating the Antichythera Mechanism with only ancient tools ?
@@inthefadeClickspring
another advantage of this design is that it looks more like a clock
I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS. YOU IMPRESS ME AND i WONDER WHAT BRAINSTORMING GOES BEHIND ALL THIS!!
Marbles might drive you mad, but unlike Wintergatan, Ivan hasn’t lost his marbles completely. Ivan actually builds stuff instead of re-inventing the wheel every other day.
I love it, its beautiful. Please don't hide the wheel in the final design!!
I think what you mean is that the best clocks work... like clockwork
Looking forward to the next steps
Ah. Now that is a fantastic jump in prototypes!
Imagine how loud the full machine is going to be when the seconds display is added
Чувак, ты просто фантастический))) посмотрел залпом все твои ролики про часы из шариков)))
If you code it right, you just need alternating colors of marbles in each lane and only swap a marble if the next number has a different color in that specific pixel. That would remove a ton of movement from the system and allow for extremely lower noise operation. In fact that's the primary benefit of loading these from the back instead of the side. Each lane is isolated. (this could be made even sillier if you just have each lane have a closed loop that pops the other color marble back behind the one that was just replaced)
I'll prove you that I can do even sillier than your even sillier.
@@ivanmirandawastaken I absolutely look forward to it.
Congratulations, you've inverted a frame buffer for a 1-bit 3x5 display. 👍
Wow Ivan, you really revolutionised your approach :D
So basically double buffering? Nice!
I had started to wonder about you. I thought you might have been sent off to an insane asylum after the last episode. I'm glad to see that you are still working on this bonkers contraption!
"As useless as a chocolate thermometer." I haven't heard that one for a while. It's a good one. :D
I love the ejection mechanism. Simple and effective. I understand the design process may not have been simple, but the result is. That's how you get genius in simplicity; "genius is 99% perspiration" after all.
Single motor; nice!
Hahaha! I subscribed, like, _half a second_ before the request to subscribe! 🤣
@ivanmirandawastaken You should use a Geneva drive or Geneva mechanism, so the marbles have a chance to dwell, similarly to a film projector advancing film.
10:25
"First try not counting all of the changes I've already done to the machine and this being the 3rd version of the system"
It was that this version of the system worked first try.
finally something you made, that seems to work perfectly 😆
I feel like it would be nice if you could recapture the three balls coming out of each layer of the display, in order, and just recycle them to the back of the display in the same order instead of doing detection and sorting the way you did for the main clock. Since they're getting ejected by the wedge it doesn't seem like it should be impossible, though routing will be a major issue
@ivanmirandawastaken I've been enjoying this series alot, and the whole time you've been struggling with making chrome marbles black and struggling with their performance.... Have you thought about going with Ceramic marbles? They come in black and white, and are low friction, perfectly smooth, and higher contrast for optical sensors than you'll be able to get with a metal marble. Now... to start over. You're welcome!
Love these videos, don't give up on that idea!
“We don’t need disasters?” Ofcourse we do!
The redesign was worth it
"look at me - doing small scale prototypes and everything - I don't recognize myself.." Ha!
Dont be shy Ivan make a clock that reads milliseconds
In video games this technique is called "double buffering"
Cold blueing the marbles might work cause that is pretty dark
you should use a "rocker based" system" that would help with stoping the ball, showing the ball for a bit and ejecting the ball. while ejecting it would stop the next ball to load it one it moved back. the rocker doesnt need to be that big it would just have to make the opening smaller than the diameter of the marble. thus it would also be able to be cascadet
tension it in closed postion with an excenter to open it and
control technology should do the trick
So, overly complicated idea...
A marble clock that is read by cascading numbers (so, it can only be read via a slow-motion camera as the marbles stream off the ramp to form the numbers).
Wondering if the initial idea of swapping numbers might have worked more reliably if you stagger the rows - exchange the bottom row first, middle one some milliseconds later etc
Great Project :)
Is there gonna be a 24-Hour Loop of the finished clock with minutes and seconds? Would be really cool as a desktop-background in Wallpaper Engine.
One more marble guy.
😂 the stubbornness of this guy. The final boss is 24hr clock with the seconds as well all wrapped into only machine
you should take it on tour...with your band. nah, it would never be finished
Within 10 eisodes he will figure out marbles are not ideal and he will have, by solving problem by problem, reitterate, reinvented the clock 😂
I'm not a mechanical engineer but saw a few uses in animation videos of bar linkage mechanisms. Your solution may be better for this in many ways, but what about things like a "Crank Rocker Four bar Mechanism" which does this oscillating movement. When I saw your oscillating plane, it immediately reminded me of these 4 bar linkage mechanisms that turn desk fans back and forth in old designs. The linkage idea can be used to create other movements too such as a tool to pick up something and place it elsewhere all by 1 rotational body such as on an assembly line. Any thoughts on using arm links to create necessary movements of things?
I've looked at four bar linkages and those follow a similar path to the eccentric wheel. The display would never be stationary
@@ivanmirandawastaken it was still fun to try this with AI asking "Create an image of a 4 or more bar linkage a that will oscillate a plane once a second" or other keywords the particular AI uses to help with ideas.
Meta didn't do as well, but I did ask it "/imagine a 4 or more bar linkage a that will oscillate a flat geometric plane once a second" . Funny results ensued.
6:12 He just throws it LUL
ivan discovers gamblers fallacy
Amazing !
I already see a problem or a future solution. This only shows one digit. And if you only put one, you only need to change it every 10 seconds.
But the real question is, how long do you want to continue this madness. Just use a spinning drum, or two, with marbles embedded/glued in it. Or use a half silver half black marble and servos to spin them.
I mean, we all want to see the clock working in the background of every new video from now on. 😈
i love the mechanisms shown! but i do see one problem with this one though.. how are you going to display 6 digits right to left in close proximity to show the time??
Comedy gold 😊
Or use an array of rotating carrels. 3 aspects.
I wonder how fast that wheel will spin. Will you be counter balancing it?
Probably not needed and it's going to be bouncing everywhere while moving the marbles anyway :)
How will this fit in next to the big minute timer clock you made? You're going to have them display side by side working together right?
Great, how about miliseconds? Maybe with atoms as marbles?
Works like clockwork!⏱️
Just wondering, what will you do when the seconds exceed 9 seconds ^^ seems like you need a 2 digit marble clock then
Matrixes ("may trih seez")
Unit testing! Whatever next? 😉
What printer are you using? How did you manage to print wheels that big?!
And now for the 10-seconds digit.
This is monster of a contraption.
Seems bigger than the clock itself.
Why don’t you „recycle“, pun intended, the marbles from 0 to 9, probably with two sets of marbles. This way you do not have to reconstruct the whole display every second.
Just show them in time. With the swipe, you can put them away in an ordered fashion.
Why BLDC instead of stepper?
But will it play "tight" music?
I hope you're somehow getting paid for this clock, it's taking a lot of time away from what used to be varied and actually interesting projects. There's already a dude on youtube you dedicated his life to marbles, and he's making music.
I can't be the only one wondering if he noticed that his seconds go up to 9 but... minutes go up to 59? It's missing a digit...or am I crazy?
Linear would have bee to easy 😂
Thank goodness somebody is investing huge amounts of time into unnecessary contraptions, so I don't have to.
At this point this is basically a public service
everything was unnecessary until we needed it
Amazing!
"Clocks should work all the time"
"We don't need disasters"
You gotta love this guy's philosophy! 😂
I was expecting "Clocks should work like... clockwork"
Year 2050: Ivan still working on marble clock has violent brain storm, destroys entire clock and starts over with clear pneumatic tubes.
We dont care if its usesless, we still watch it 😂
It will tell the time, it will be useful in the most useless way.
Awesome approach! Nice solution with the camshaft and I'm looking forward to the rest of the project!
I am a 73-year-old grizzled engineer, pretty tough to impress. Every single one of your videos is totally inspirationa and keeps in the shop MAKING THINGS. Thank you..
Milliseconds when?
First tenths of a second right? One should dive into madness step by step we're not savages 😂
Ahhhh, good to know there's a proper method on how to descend into madness! 😂
All in due time, right?
@@ivanmirandawastaken Once you're in you no longer recognize the landscape.
Easiest way to display milliseconds would just be to paint one half of each marble black and the other half silver, then glue them on to the output of a high speed motor. At least it seems to me.
Though at that point they're no different from mechanical pixels.
ok, now you can show the digits from 0 to 9. But you´ll need the numbers all the way up to 59. You´ll need a second machine like this to show every second from 00 to 59?? can´t wait to see this improvement
You're correct. This is the second units. Once I finish the the entire setup for one digit I'll have to do "something similar" for the tenths of seconds, this thing is going to be huge.
Tens of seconds will be a lot easier to manage to be fair
@patrickhector Somewhat easier, since there is more time to prepare the marbles for the next digit, but the tens digit transitions need to be just as fast and also correctly synchronised to the units digit transitions.
@@GodmanchesterGoblin tbh just repeating the design with a 10:1 gear ratio and a 10x steeper angle on the main gear would do it
@patrickhector True, but there might be an issue with the cam angle. I'm no expert though. I'd probably look at using Geneva drives for this.
Is it legal to make a marble video and not say "tight music" even once?
Ok, Interesting. I can't wait to see how you manager to get multiple of them close enough to read as a clock.
Ooh Shiiit...
If I've learnt anything from this series, he will find a way.
Maybe stack them in front of each other? xD
@@TheMagneticDude Yeah. I was thinking about maybe a clever mirror arrangement :D
I was jusr thinking about when the next episode was coming, and here it is!!
I had to design the entire machine before I could start building this section, next episode will take less time hopefully
The Marble Clock saga has been a masterclass in practical engineering.
This latest revision is a great demonstration of "going back to the drawing board" and I love it.
The result is an simpler, more elegant design that works more accurately than previous iterations. Bravo!!
"a clock should work like... all the time" was a very clever line. just enough of a gap for everyone's brain to finish the joke before switching it to a different punchline. 👌👌
Another commenter nailed it on my feelings…such joy from watching something that must be so frustrating and yet an incredible sense of accomplishment to figure out such a complex puzzle. Thanks Ivan for bringing us along on this ride!