Definitely some creepy shit. After the way the parents acted I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t help those kids kill that poor lady. The good dad has his work cut out for him.
He sure ditched that inane giggling and smirking once he heard those texts Edit: Spoke too soon, he just got the boot for it. What a maniac. Just occurred to me, I'll bet you anything he's a "certified youth therapist" at a church. My friend's husband was addicted to porn and doing "marital counseling" at their church the whole time. I won't name his occupation but it's safe to say his day job and training have *zero* to do with counseling. It's a little scary who some churches will let play with this stuff. But all just a guess on my part.
And for him to keep saying he isn’t going to BrEaK tHe LaW because a judge never ordered them kids to stay apart 🙄🙄🙄 the moment another parent threatens RAPE charges on my child, would be the moment they NEVER saw one another again! PERIOD!
Plenty of people who work woth kods ate absolute dirtbags. That's why they chose their fields like CPS, social work, teaching, coach, child therapist, even (especially) foster parents, etc
I do find that many therapists are actually freak lol, but I do feel that the plaintiffs are terrible parents as well, they just don't know how to parent their kids
The 14 year old is also grooming her boyfriend to murder her mother. This is insane. She’s gearing him up to commit that crime. I feel so emotional watching this. I am furious at the guys father! That man is a wicked sick monster. They also need a restraining order placed against them.
Ok now tht i understand that part what i got to say is this the kids need way more then their parents raising them , they need juvi or to be in a deliquant home or wahtever the term of a place where troubled teens live convalecnce or ?? i thinkthere is t suc ha place ??? or cfs to do something i mean everyones saying unless the adults wrote those texts but the asian mother said she felt the kid was being abused im not trying to choose sides here but if the kid is speaking about her mother in that way either im not faimliar enough with just to the strong extent that some teens hate their parents who could die at any time or there is something very unstable about the son of the other couple the daughter, n perhaps the mother &maybe even the father of the daughter , or for that matter maybe all of them lol i mean its very wishy washy to act like such good parents the daughters parents n then sound like such evil people that the daughter wants to do that to them, either that or the daughter is very messed up hmmm which b4 the texts n realizing this i didnd think they seemed like bad parents i do think they maybe a slight over protective n to much of that well make a teen run away or most teens n feel to controlled and that seems to be wahts happened she had freedom at the other house but knew that she shouldnt be there when she found out they were coming there often n searching the house what a bunch of drama n such on both these parents whatever their names are , i m just so peprlexed but again either the daughters mh is making mountians of mole hills and shes overeacting n a very dark person who has absorbed the wrong things in life , the son to, or those parents arent great parents either , im not sure but it sure sounds like 1 the aisan mother never told the cops she was being abused the daughter but then why she told the judge this hmm i do wonder if it maybe true that fact though n so someone with a caring protective heart would try n protect the kid, it wasnt her job , she liekly didnt want to get cops involved as thats stressful n she maybe felt she could handle it but ya this was just mind boggling
@@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor its hard to understand what u mean in your comment. It seems like u jump around a lot and are all over the place. Im sorry, im really not trying to be mean, but what I could understand, u did have some good points. This was a crazy case. Be safe everyone.
It is possible for the dad not to know. My dad rarely came to my room or siblings and I could have harboured someone for months and he wouldn't know. My mum on the other hand was like a sniffer dog. She was constantly in our rooms and including every room or cupboard in the house.
So funny story I'm related to the McManus family that's my uncle and aunt. My uncle Chris actually had no clue. My aunt distracted him so my cousins gf could get out and use the bathroom and etc.... have any questions I got you guys.
@@ShoobysOPINION By now the daughter is prob 17/18. But the law did NOTHING for them. They could have arrested the mother of the boy and charged her with harboring a runaway AND delinquency of a minor. But did the cops do it? NOPE. They dropped the ball.
Most of them are. All they do is go along with the youths ideas even when they know they are wrong most of the time and the youths love them for it so nobody (ecept the judge here) actually gets to see how bad they really are at their jobs.
Judge stepped up to the plate and really took the case seriously. She wanted the defendants to really understand what they did. I couldn't believe those text messages! It seems that the parents really care for their daughter.
@@AriesHeat-xq5ppYou are sick! Their child was missing and here you are making this comment about the poor mom who is in distress over her daughter!!!
Actually, it could still become one... The disturbing text messages between the boyfriend & girlfriend sound like a serious threat....to hurt someone! Absolutely horrible.
Yes, I think that's what the judge was referring to when she said 'one of those cases'. Even after that the youth therapist father still didn't seem concerned enough for my liking.
How has that guy not been fired as a youth counselor? He doesn't have the knowledge or common sense to counsel anyone, let alone impressionable youths!!
Dude said he doesn’t go into his sons room because it’s dirty and makes him angry!? Wtf? How can you guide random kids but not your own? This dude is a bum. I wonder how much he paid for that ugly ass mail in bride.
Being a “youth counselor” means nothing. He doesn’t even have to be certified to say that’s what he is depending on where he’s “working” out of. It’s sick.
@@ering9564 if she is 17, yeah she can do as she pleases.....so, one day, she will again run away to see her boytoy.....only difference this time, a stranger grabs her and drives away.......never to be seen again, until hunters or a massive search by cadaver dogs finds her decomposing body......
@@ering9564 if a 14 year old willfully goes with someone across state lines that her parents don’t know and no one knows her whereabouts, that’s kidnapping
My heart sank when the judge read those text messages from the 14 year old daughter to her boyfriend about wanting to torture and kill her mom. I understand that teenagers go through this rebellious stage in their lives but never to a point of wanting to murder their parents who cares so much for them. my heart goes out to the parents of the 14 year old girl in this case.
Maybe her mom is abusive and controlling and says things to harm her emotional well-being. Theres not a problem thinking like this only a problem to acting on it. Abuse exist.
@♡ Or maybe she is grooming that boy to kill her mother, because reading those text messages it definitely seems like that. You noticed in none of here texts to that boy she mentioned anything about being abused, but everytime she said something negative about her mother she followed it up with how much she missed him and how her mother is the problem. Yes abuse is real, but so is mental unstabilty
That was disturbing to hear. I think we've all been mad at our parents but I can't imagine sitting here and writing in detail how you'd want your parent to suffer and ultimately d/e. Holy sh/t. That's a lot and I don't know how the parents even feel safe living in the same house with her.
The dad 100% facilitated everything and then begged his wife into taking the fall so he wouldn't lose his job. I'd almost put money down that he saw nothing wrong with the relationship between his son and the plaintiffs' daughter, because he has the same sorts of gross dealings with his clients.
I also think the wife is mentally and physically abused. He made his wife take the fall for everything. I think the father was the one hiding the girl the whole time. And the daughter will eventually be their next victim.
As someone who spent five years in the Missing Children’s Division at the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, these defendants make my blood boil. They should have been charged with so much more than a single count of obstruction (and I wouldn’t be opposed to someone wiping that smug grin from the male defendant’s face. Hard.) I’ve heard the desperation in parents’ voices while their child is missing. They don’t sleep, they don’t eat, they barely function as they inevitably think up all the horrific things that might be happening to that child. I’ve also had cases that included those horrors, and ones who never made it home. That anyone would put someone else through that trauma is honestly one of the most appalling things I’ve ever seen - and I saw a lot working for NCMEC. They are disgusting human beings, and brava to Judge Milian for taking them to task.
And he's SMILING and LAUGHING throughout! 🤮 His wife ADMITTED in the exit interview that it was HER HUSBAND that let the girl into their house! I HOPE she says it in criminal court. I believe the husband defendant is a sociopath. He insulted his wife without thinking twice, and I also noticed that she has a VERY bad limp as well. The guy is cruel, and I am VERY worried about what he's doing with that at risk youth!
Having had abusive parents and at 55yrs still suffering I can tell you it was assholes like you that allowed it to continue because you don't believe parents can be so sick minded, I had food and clothes so fing what I'm suffering PTSD and server depression which I've had most of my life because my farther beat me and my mother up yet she wouldn't stand up when us kids tried to get help she treats us like shit blaming us for her life he died and arssholes like you let it happen all the time someone tried to step in, that girl MUST have a reason to feel the way she does did you think about that dick head
@@rplayer360 would not be shocked if a photo is leaked online showing the girl......who knows, maybe the "dad" has the peverted hots to let her date his son and then one day, he ends up sexually abusing her behind the son's back.....
Well, for starters, they need to stop blaming the other wife. Their own daughter ran away of her own free will. It was her CHOICE. She ran away for a reason. IMO It wasn't just about a 'test.'
What an infuriating situation. The defendant is ridiculous - if she really thought the child was being abused, she would have gone to the authorities, not harbor a minor. Unbelievable.
Lmao if u think all it takes is calling for them to report abuse your touched in the head. Unless ur a prison of power they don't investigate without multiple calls 10 to be exact or actual proof. It still takes days for them to even check up. I watch children live it every day. I have lived it also.
@@Mitsurilove_84 There was a week long search for this child by the authorities. There was ample time for the defendant to let the authorities know that the child was in trouble.
The boys dad was smiling when the messages were being read ... I think the whole family is nutty .... I’m scared for the plaintiffs and their daughter .... I hope the courts involved before it’s too late
I'm 100% convinced that the defendant (wife) is taking the fall for her husband's TERRIBLE BEHAVIOR AND ACTIONS. That man is absolutely a danger to not only his wife, his son, his son's girlfriend, and the girlfriend's parents, but also the PUBLIC. I wouldn't be surprised if he is also mistreating/abusing his wife.
Exactly because I thought the same thing when she started crying at the end. It’s weird how the father (defendant) acted as though he was 100% against it in the beginning, but as the case went on he’s 100% for the girl coming over anytime she wants because it’s legal.
No the mom knows what she did was wrong. I think the dad played dumb but after the cops came around I’m sure he knew what they were up to or didn’t care. Meanwhile those poor parents likely thought their daughter was dead in a ditch somewhere.
@@lanafan211The Father does not feel his wife was wrong. He believes the daughter. The texts should have scared them to death! The judge is right. She is talking to a wall in this case.
@@alexisrene5854 because it says her name and shows her Facebook account and it's the same exact first and last name that they said their daughter had in the show... but not only that, I went on her Facebook and she's friends with her family on there lol. So I found her mom and dad on there (the ones that were the plantiffs). And there's photos of her on the moms Facebook. So it's obviously her.
@@ShoobysOPINION oh okay I was wondering. I hope that they at least have something healthy now. I just don’t know how anyone could get past that. When I looked it just said he was engaged but I didn’t know who but I also didn’t look into it any further
I’m shocked this is a small claims case. This is clearly negligent infliction of emotional distress at the very least. This should be a 6 figure judgement in a civil case. Also, 14 year olds shouldn’t be having boyfriends. 🤬
@@SBIFILMSminivan exactly! Now they will be barred by res judicata. The worst part is it sounds like they have a lawyer who doesn’t seem to be properly advising them. I don’t wanna judge since I don’t have all the facts.
*EXACTLY* 14 Year olds should not have boyfriends. The fact that disturbed girl is texting death threats against her mother is why. The boyfriend's parents are a malevolent *force.* They are not just stupid, they are evil.
That was my first thought too! What is wrong with these judges? The defendants are horrible sub-humans! If something happens to the plaintiffs, the defendants are responsible as hell! Unbelievable!
I pray for the mental and physical health of the mom and dad of this young lady. I understand that teens are sometimes awful to their parents but those texts were so scary. Do not give up on her, maybe there will be a path for her to escape this mental illness of anger and continue her life in a positive way. Be safe mom and dad, God Bless you
Vesislava Todorova, you say do not give up on her. I take it that you are speaking to the mother. I get what you are saying, but at what point do you say enough is enough? This girl is talking about killing her mother. When there is a fire in your home, do you stay in the home. When there is a car speeding your way, do you get out of the way? This girl is a burning car about to run her mother over. Her mother shiuld get out of her way, and let her crash and burn, because if not her daughter may kill her.
I won’t give up on my child if that happens but I would also lock her up in a behavior center to get her actual help. When I see text messages wishing they would kill me. I would be scared and I’m locking her up, so she won’t hurt her dad or me, or herself.
That man seems to know a lot more of what he’s admitting to. The fact that he raised the “I could lose my job for this” statement makes one wonders if he forced his wife to take the blame for this 🤦🏻♂️
Yes and they know that his son probably is a psychopath. I saw a series with a similar situation and it resulted that it was the guy that was grooming the girl and was a psychopath. He ended up killing her and his mom spotted and covered up until she suicided.
At least one of those parents knew the girl was in the house because someone had to be feeding her, she was likely taking a shower, etc. and go try hiding in a storage room for an hour or two and see if you can actually "hide" there for very long. It's almost impossible to do so without making some kind of noise.
@@SooHooSamaSito isactly why is the man been singled out she so cold hearted and matter affect about it the boys mother is disgusting to she didn't give a dam she boils my blood watching her
As soon as he said he didn't want to lose his job for this, I already had a feeling he was putting the blame on his wife, especially when he basically insulted her with her heart being bigger than her brain. It clearly shows he feels superior to her and that she's submissive to him. When at the end she said her husband was the one who did it, I wasn't surprised. She got spooked when they said she could go to prison for this. If he laughed in court for harboring a missing child in his home and actually smiled when the judge read those text messages, it's not that hard to see what's going on. She's even the one who had to tell him to stop laughing, but he didn't, which says a lot about who he is. She clearly knew, but he most likely told her not to say anything to the police. It's still her fault for not telling the police, but it's strange that first she said she didn't know because she had work, but then went along with it when her husband blamed her, then backtracked at the mention of going to prison. It's a huge mess and a big divorce. I'm not one bit surprised he tried to throw her under the bus to save his own ass. Also, I'm not surprised the daughter lied to the woman about "abuse" when those horrendous text messages about her own mother exist.
Oh, shut it. She's every bit as bad as him. Worse, in fact, because she's the MOTHER, that "primary caregiver", the one who's job it is to raise the children while the man supports them. He's in denial, and he knows more than he admitted, but SHE allowed it from the first day, and is continuing to corrupt the girl, encouraging her to hate her parents. There's a reason he wasn't charged but SHE'S facing jail. Put your vagina away and stop blaming men for women's misdeeds.
even crazier is that THIS court case was recorded and can be used as evidence in her own trials. That mom is going to jail and that dad is losing his job, big time.
@@digby_dooright It's because the girl is a minor and the defendants are adults. In a case like this, the minor will get a free pass for not knowing better but the defendants are in big trouble because as adults you are expected to obey the laws and law enforcement which these two did not do.
@@jessicabarczewski1910 it doesnt take a minor "harvard knowledge" to poison a drink or food......and if she can get access to Fentanyl, OMG!!!!! just 1 dose and someones DOA......Kids nowadays dont beleive that mommy's egg was pierced by daddy's "hot ta trot" sperm and it created a frkn BRAT!!!!! who maybe in the future, is a murderer.
Drives me a little crazy when people, both the parent and child, say that the other is their best friend. I would never had said that about my mom. She was a normal mom, didn't try to be a friend. Just tried to raise us the best she could.
@@tootsd my ex-wife is exactly like this loon in court. She is hellbent to be our daughter's best friend rather than her parent. There is nothing I can do while my daughter is at her mother's which sucks. I have rules and certain things I don't allow under my roof. My Ex lets my 15-year-old daughter's boyfriend sleep over in the same bed. Goes to school when she wants. Does what she wants when she wants. How do I compete with that? I have curfews, must go to school, no sleepovers with boyfriends and I want to know where she goes and when she is coming home. Another messed up thing is my ex is the one that physically abused our daughter when she was younger and smaller. I've never raised a hand to her, I've only raised my voice to her 2 times in her life, I have never said anything emotionally abusive to her but I'm the bad guy.
I’m watching this one again in 2023. This is one of the most shocking cases . Been watching since they started. The defendant (wife) should have been arrested on the spot. That couple needs to be stopped. The dad is creepy. I’m sure that 17 year old will ‘knock’ up their daughter . This is a train wreck. Infuriating Those texts are PSYCHOPATHIC. More than two million say this case MIND BLOWING
I had to rewatch, too. Those texts are scary. I can't understand the "dad" who kept saying he wasn't going against the judge's order. Like, what?! The judge allegedly said the girl could still visit the bf, but he didn't order it. And it's weird that dad didn't say, hell no! After all this, you're not coming around anymore!
@@angelacarleton9575extremely, she said all those things about murder, torture, burning her mother alive. I have no doubt that she is a Psychopath, complete malice with no regrets, she needs to be institutionalized
They gotta investigate the dad. Homie is a certified youth therapist, and facilitating this toxic environment for that girl and his son. He has abuse vibes for sure.
Also, what the hell is he allowing a 14 year old girl in the house with just him and his son? The wife says she's never home! That's downright sickening.
Family friend had same problem..she'd drop her daughter off at school..and the boyfriend "groomer" would be waiting around the corner to pick her up. Resolution: sent her kid to Pineywood School for Country Life in Mississippi...problem solved.
5:14 YOU LITERALLY CAN SEE HIM NUDGE HER BECAUSE SHE MESSED UP - implying that they are hiding something!! Can’t believe no one else picked up on that? 🤦🏻♀️
Those text messages remind me of Gypsy Rose. They better be on alert. She would have to leave my house. They have other children and have to think of their entire family to think of.
@@elainevankat5353 just the fact that he claims he was completely oblivious to what was happening in his home shows he’s unfit. I don’t believe for a second that he didn’t know. He’s just trying to protect his job
@@freereign911 have you been an idiot all your life or just the few seconds it took to write your comment that the girl's parents look like creeps.. Never mind I'll answer for you. Yeah,, that would be all of your life with an ASININE comment like that!!
@@52Rambler All of my life! Were you born missing 98% of your chromosomes? It’s obvious that the teens are co -dependant on one another and that this girl has issues within her home!?! Tf you offended for? Take care of your own life and/or ugly offspring that you’ve unleashed onto society, u a goofy🤡
Yeah, she will probably pay for it too. I can kinda see the type of culture in their home-- controlling, dysfunctional and codependent. The are an odd looking pairing too.
I've seen this specific case about a dozen times but I watch each time because the parents DESERVED to be yelled at like that for being such horrible people. That girl is clearly struggling and they keep allowing the drama and trouble.
As a dad of a young daughter this story breaks my heart as a father of a young man this story is even more heart breaking. As a father and a man physically I don’t think any being in the world would have kept me from entering that home and harming them
@@jonathoncunningham3939I definitely understand. My son actually just only turned ,2 today and I am absolutely dreading the teens years for stuff like this especially these days when it seems parents have so little say. It's parents like the two of you that let me breathe easier knowing it won't just be me up against a bunch of teenage minded parents who care more about being friends than parents
The BF's parents are delusional. I cannot believe he is a youth counselor with that type of convoluted logic about it being legal and following what a judge said. Terrible patenting.
I hope the defendant LOSES his job as a child counselor!!! The wife should be in jail doing 10 years NO time reduction for good behavior even though the jails are crowded. Horrible people.
When I first saw the comments I was amazed at how many people were saying the father knew, but as I watched more, it became more and more alarming how cruel he is. There are several tells. Trying to focus more on him not wanting to lose his job vs. the parents pain of thinking the worst happened to their daughter. Easily tossing his wife under the bus and easily saying his wife has more heart than brain and her not even flinching from that. Him continuing to allow the daughter into his house knowing full well as a "counselor" that action would continue to cause a rift. Him then trying to say he's not going to go against a judges order when he knows damn well the judge didn't order the daughter into his house, the judge just said it wasn't illegal for her to visit. And most alarmingly, he was smiling as Judge M read those atrocious texts between the daughter and his son and he ONLY looked worried or contrite when she focused on him. I GENUINELY hope he lost his job and can't find employment dealing with children and kids.
Exactly! Why would he want her in his house with all the drama that was caused and just knowing his wife can go to jail following this incident. If he didn’t know and he was so angry with his son he would have grounded him for life. He can’t have any company come over especially this girl. Only reason he would have to keep allowing her into the house is to be cruel.
That's the sick thing about that father..he is enjoying this being able to have power to affect peoples lives .its a sick game that feeds his god complex
Yes I seen cases where the daughter trying to get the boyfriend kill her step mom. It's wrong but they both need to control their kids because she the one sneaking out. And something must be going on in that home that we all not know about
You would THINK, as a mother herself, she would have AT LEAST had the decency to call the girl's Mom and say "Your daughter is with me in our home. She is safe. You can come pick her up if you want to, or she is welcome to stay her for a day or two until she calms down. But to OUTRIGHT LIE and deny that they know where the plaintiff's daughter is (when she is right there in their home) is just insane. They SHOULD be charged with obstruction and more.
@@CeltycSparrow They are delusional. Lucky the parents of the girls didn't take the law into their own hands. Not alot of people would have that kind of patience.
When I was 18 I lived on my own and my 16 year old girlfriend got in a fight with her parents ran away from home. She came to my house telling me what she had done. She said she was going to move in and she didn't want her parents to know where she was. I knew her parents would be besides themselves with worry so I went behind her back and called her mom and told her where she was and that I would be respectful and try and convince her to go home. My girlfriend got mad at me for pushing her to go home but she finally did. Unfortunately her parents let it slip that I had ratted her out. She broke up with me. I really loved her but I still to this day, and especially now as a parent, think I did the right thing. A 14 year old girl has more drama with her parents for no reason than you can believe is possible. These neighbors need to get out of the way.
The boyfriend was even being quite manipulated by her. The 14 year-old was actually trying to get him to kill her mom. Those text messages in a row were frightening, and the husband was actually smiling and then realized someone could notice, so he stopped.
@@derrickmathews476 stop trying to make this a “blame the men” thing. Reading the body language you can tell there is no wAy he did not know what was going on the house.
Judge telling mom to not give up on her girl brought me to tears. I was one of those mentally ill teenage girls once upon a time. It's hard. I wish the family the best.
THIS. My mother just berated me instead, even though it was inherited from her. Now I have my own 16 year old daughter who has been showing signs of mental illness for a year or no now. I refuse to be like my mother though.
Also used to be one of those kids. 14 is a pretty fucked up age for kids with mental illness, I think. It really is an age where you truly begin to believe you know everything, including the consequences of your actions - but it's so much more serious than these kids could ever realize. I can only hope they can get both of them (or I guess at least the daughter now, seeing as the son is likely aged out) into some kind of program to help them get back on track. That was what I needed, desperately, and I will always be grateful for the adults who helped me during that time.
This is actually very serious, I’ve seen enough police interrogation videos to see that they are extremely close to going through with murdering her mother, and I’m being extremely serious!
Agreed! It happens more than people realize, majority of the cases aren't brought to the public, but are featured in adds or 1 short news segment. Children and teens are not that innocent anymore, we have to keep our heads on a swivel even with our loved ones sad to say.
No seriously and your first thought would be “oh no way their kids” but being around kids and teens they are veryyy manipulative when things don’t go their way and it’s scary at how far they go to get what they want Kids/ teens don’t want to be just kids/teens anymore they want to grow up too fast and anyone that’s gets in their way it’s a problem smh I pray for the youth that they get the guidance and help they need honestly
Kids nowadays are far too entitled and feel they should get and have whatever they want! They have in their heads that they're the parent and we're the child! And just give me what I want and I won't have a fit!!
I’ve been binge watching people’s court and judge Mathis for weeks now. Being a father of a girl and 2 boys. Judge milian’s passion for this case actually brought me to tears. I love this lady.
I don't even have kids, and I got emotional too. I can imagine the difficulty in trying to raise a child right with so many negative influences, along with the duress of not knowing where your child is for 6 days, all because of the malicious negligence of the defendants.
I went through a similar situation, and it was very difficult because when my daughter ran away, she crossed the state lines. So I had to get two states to cooperate and work together. I went through 37 false abuse claims in 26 months. All came back unfounded. It was excruciating. I never gave up, though. My daughter is now an adult, and getting ready to become a mom herself. She’s being induced in 2 days and our relationship is amazing. We are so close and she has grown into a remarkable young woman. Don’t give up mama!!! I promise this will all be worth it one day.
@@rachelw6237 As a stepparent in my stepkid's life since they were 2 & 4, I say yes. My stepchildren are 30 & 32. We have a very loving relationship although I divorced their dad in 2009. Their children call me grandma. But I would have fought tooth & nail if the circumstances needed it.
Glad you guys have a great relationship now! I ran away a few times from my home because of abuse, child services came over but nothing changed from it. I moved out as soon as I was 17 :) My mum and I text each other mostly, but my dad I haven’t spoken to since then
Youre a better person than i could be. If someone falsely accuses me of anything, let alone that sort of thing, theyre out. Even as an angry teen when i was hormonal etc, id never have thought to disrespect my folks with false allegations of that nature.
the JUDGE were VERY Harsh on the ASIAN Lady(a wife & a Mother) but when really, she's the Victim, victim of an Abused Husband!! In addition to that, the girls' PARENTS are N.O any better(don't act the real Victim) when especially AFTER....reading the Daughters Text!!!
The guy’s dad said, “I’m talking about real judges in Rochester.” Savage! Their daughter sounds like she’s off her rocker beyond normal teenage angst. I hope everyone’s in a better place now.
Yeah little does he know that she's basically a genius who graduated college early with honors, but who went on to work at Harvard Law, and then after that as an assistant State Attorney in Florida, and then ultimately landing herself the position of Circuit Court Judge in Miami County.... all at a young age. Younger than most. So she IS a real judge. In fact, her particular brand of spiciness, humor and intelligence is what made her stand out amongst other judges and what got her the offer to replace Judge Judy's husband, Judge Jerry Sheindlin on the People's Court. Most people don't know that Judge Judy's husband also had his own court show (the people's court) in the late 90s I believe
@@ShoobysOPINION She is a real judge, but she's also a retired* judge. The bio you shared is interesting bc you noted that MM replaced Judge Jerry Sheindlin, but then you wrote that you "believed" he had his own(?) show, (TPC-is a Stu Billett production) in the late 90s, you "believe", lol. He was, in FACT, the Judge on TPC before MM took over in 2001, but Ed Koch was there before him, and Wapner was there before Koch.😉
@@heathernks8 read it again. I didn't say I believed he had his own show. I said "most people don't know that Judge Judy's husband had his own court show (the people's court) in the late 90s I believe". I wasn't saying he was the inventor of the show, and I didn't say he was the first judge to preside over TPC... I was merely saying that, just like his wife, he also had a court show where he was the judge. And the only thing I said "I believe" about was that it was in the late 90s, which I was ultimately correct about. Not sure what your point of coming at me was when every single thing I said was accurate and factual. And I never said judge Milian wasn't retired from the Miami court system. However she's not retired overall. She's still a judge... on this show. So her being retired from the Miami court system is irrelevant, as she's still a judge that presides over cases, whether they be on TV or not. I said what I said because that guy in this episode implied that Judge Milian isn't a real judge... like he thinks she's just a television personality judge... Basically just an actress playing a judge or something; and that's not the case at all. She is a real judge. Thus, why I gave her credentials and back story for those who don't know. Because not only is she a real judge, she's actually extremely ambitious, intelligent, and broke barriers as one of the youngest female judges to ever be appointed in Miami. She's a Prodigy in my opinion.
@@ShoobysOPINION I wasn't "coming at you", lol. I was just noting that she's retired, so she's now considered a "television personality" by her own bio. I was also noting that part of your bio seemed like it was copied bc it didn't make sense to write: "I believe" after you clearly stated it was a fact.🙂It was nothing personal At ALL. It just made me giggle. I didn't know that Judge Jerry was married to Judge Judy.😃✌
Judge telling her to not give up on her daughter and to pursue everything she can made me tear up because I felt like she felt like she couldn’t and she assured her she could.
Oh wow! This is my first time seeing this case and I’m so disturbed that I’m trying to find the conclusion to the other case against the defendant and I want to know whether they were able to get the daughter the help she needed.
The daughter doesn't know how truly blessed she is to have a mother who would never give up on her. I know my mom would've put me out if I was acting the way she is at her age! 😩
Same. My old school Italian grandmother raised me. I was allowed at my best friends house only and she always called to talk to her mom. I always got mad at her because she was so strict. Now that I'm older, I appreciate her for it. So many bad things happen to people. These young kids have to realize their parents are trying to keep them safe. Being strict isn't always them being mean.
@@stephengingo3374 That’s awful, I can’t say I’m surprised based on her testimony. I hope your Aunt is okay, she seems to be very loving and caring- I hope your cousin gets the help she needs, and is away from this boy and his family!
I refuse to believe the father didn’t know their daughter was there. Like he said he’s a child counselor and could get fired for this, so he throws his wife under the bus and lets her take all the heat. That family needs to be investigated I think there’s a lot more going on than what we’re hearing and seeing. And I’m getting serious abuser and abused vibes from that guy and his wife.
The girl's mom said the boys parents got divorced and the father is now homeless. Even if he wasn't convincted he definitely got what was coming to him.
I got the same vibe.you can see he has all the power in that house.He even insults her in public saying she is sweet but is stupid and needs him to make the decisions.if he is like that in public i can't imagine what he's like at home.total tyrant.definition of Napoleon syndrome.i feel for all of them except for him
@@Hierophant52314 I do know that they were separated a while back. I wouldn't trust what Claudia's stepmom says completely bc she seems narcissistic against Claudia & is upset that she feels more comfortable with her boyfriend & his family. Claudia is now in college & she & Tyler are still together. I wouldn't be surprised if the Stepmom is exaggerating on the homeless part. Divorced, yes I believe it, especially since they were separated. However, maybe he just left the house and was staying with someone until he got a place. I know people that try to make the other person look bad during divorce and they want to go ahead and say they're homeless when they really are just waiting to move into a new home that they already signed off on.
i totally disagree with the verdict , both the plaintiffs and the defendants are not totally credible , the judge should have not awarded the plaintiffs for messing up their own daughter to the point that their own daughter hates her mother , there is most likely alot that the plaintiffs are not revealing about things that they let happen to their daughter when she was a child .
i, don't Understand why blame it on the Mother of the boy parents when it was the Father who's the abuser and the real- Villain of this story while the Mother is the actual victim here. ~ ......yet they blamed it ALL on the mother and out make her to be the villain!!
@@Lady.Luck7640 if that caucasian lady was her "step mom", then the dude with them "tats" was her real dad...........NO WONDER!!!! makes sense!!! he also threatened the asian mom for "not looking eye to eye" at them......maybe, the asian woman was also threatened, BY her hubby. fyi, I live in the islands and SEE how polynesian guys personality are.....lot of times they do look threatening.
They need control of their daughter first. But yes those texts were disturbing as hell. They need to keep both kids away from each other. But hearing those text messages they will always find a way to be together.
@@Salutations26 well they are engaged now or the son is. Some lady in the comments literally searched the dude up on fb and even found the girl as one of his friends on there. So yeah they may still be together
@@Salutations26 yeah its called PSYCH HOSPITAL!! That little girl is her own parent! Clearly they let their daughter get out control to the point she is plotting her mothers DEATH!
She let her in and hid her the first time, now the husband is letting her come over whenever because "it's legal". It's probably an underhanded way to get his wife a bigger sentence during her trial to get back at her (and probably make the divorce proceedings easier on his end).
Wow! What a case. My 13 year old son ran away once without a coat in the winter. We called everyone. He was gone 3 nights. My Mother did not want me to call the police. I finally figured out why. He was at my brother’s house.
The kids aren't in love. They are obsessed and dependent on each other for emotional support. And we can all see how incredibly unhealthy it has become.
This was very emotional. I cried real tears just watching 😢
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THESE Parents are the real- Problem here.!! BOTH side of the Parents when knowing the fact that BOTH of the Kids are jus Under_aged, and the Judges were a Bit Harsh on the asian Lady(wife) whe she's the Victim of the abusers(by the husband)!!
@@fittik4554 That's incorrect...she served five years in the Miami County Court in the Domestic Violence Court, Criminal, and Civil divisions, and 2 years on Miami Circuit Court in the Criminal Division.
Doug is so messy lmao. He STAYS being extra and making sure he rubs every negative detail in... Hard lol He does it every episode. And ngl, sometimes I'm 'like daaamn Doug, shut up! They get it! They're fucked! Lol'
Nothing happened though. The stepmom said on fb that they couldn't get a restraining order, so it was a little annoying to watch JM go off on the defendants bc I knew that wouldn't happen in a real courtroom, so she was giving the plaintiffs false hope. The "dad" probably knew it, too, ("The JUDGE said it's ok") and that was part of the reason why he was laughing.. The Judge Judy/theatricality of it all.
That woman's husband probably knew everything and then threw his wife under the bus so he doesn't lose his job. Who smiles are a parents pain especially when you also have children.
The boy's father struggling for excuses to justify why he's gonna keep welcoming a 14-year-old girl into his home is the creepiest thing about any litigant on The People's Court in the history of The People's Court.
The defendants are Class A thugs. They should be locked up for what they did. The plaintiff's daughter has a LOOOOOOOTTT of issues. She needs counseling ASAP
The defendant husband clearly runs his house. He does what he wants and you can tell his wife is submissive to his wishes. He threw her under the bus and made her take the time instead of manning up. So glad JM let it be known the courtroom is HER HOUSE, and she runs this roost, sorry buddy. 🤗
If the parents are reading this: I was a horrible teen and put my mom through the same thing. I now have three kids of my own and I’m a lawyer. This after dropping out of high school. My mom is now my best friend. Hang in there! It will pass, I promise!!
I’m glad you overcame the childhood obstacles. I don’t know if you ever wanted to kill or torture your mother 😩... but I hope you use your story to help this generation coming up.
Exactly there could be several reasons the mom hid her maybe she was scared of her son. But the daUghter is clearly disturbed and started this whole saga, she’s not innocent. Sounds like there could be some pre planned attacks in the works
Those messages were an eye opener. The girl hates her mother with a passion. And it’s not every day a 14 year old girl goes into that kind of detail about un-aliving her own mother.
I agree with all of y’all even tho the boy’s parents were 100% wrong n she deserves to go to jail Really both of them….but that lil girl has some deep issues n I think her parents are n real danger cuz the kids are plotting to kill them…but the boys parents seem to be encouraging it….
I can’t even imagine as a mom (I have a 14 yr old son) having to read that and know that’s how your kid feels about you. Even knowing there are some mental issues and it may/may not be real feelings. We all hate our parents at some point during the teenage years but that’s….not even close to normal. That sounds like a young Jennifer Pan.
i, felt Judge Marilyn are quite lean against the boy Parents especially the boy side' Mother. when the FATHER is the TRUE Abuser, she's even afraid of telling him !! WHILE the girl side are N.O any different, just look at her text messages and their conversations!!!
For those of us who wants an update: Their names are Christina and Zarul Vasquez..... daughter is Claudia. The creepy lady's name is Melinda O'Dell McManus (on Facebook also) & her son is Tyler. They are in Rochester, NY. Dad is Christopher Alrighty....someone else has to take the next part of this investigation lol. Btw mom is on Facebook too if that helps
The defendant/husband is a piece of work. Considering what happened, his affect is baffling. His smirks, grins and chuckles indicate that there's something seriously wrong with his strategies when confronting difficult situations. I weep for the youth he supposedly "counsels". If it were up to me, I wouldn't let him near any kids. Hopefully, his boss/superiors see this episode and realize that he's -- utterly and completely -- emotionally incompetent.
According to Christine the boy's parents got divorced and the father is now homeless. Even if he wasn't convincted he definitely got what was coming to him.
Those texts were really scary and the couple`s daughter sounds out of control with psychopathic tendencies. The girl urgently needs to go for a psychiatric evaluation because I believe the girl is capable of doing her parents some real harm, we hear about such cases often.
This situation is scary. Especially the kids because I've seen episodes of for my man where they've actually killed the parent or parents because of hate!! Also the defendant thinks this is funny
@@vanessaouyang1220 nope, not nervous, he was laughing contemptuously at the other parents because he thought they were being ridiculous. They were not.
Having been a physically and mentally abused child myself I grew up with hate for my own father. All I can say, nobody knows what goes on inside a home when the front door is closed.
And as someone who has been around kid with mental challenges some being more violent or manipulative than others. All I can say is it is not always about abuse, and if they had proof of abuse then any smart human would have had her talk to the police
It’s not always abuse. Some kids are just troubled and need guidance. We’ve had to find a therapist for our daughter because, despite having a loving home, she’s quite violent when she’s angry and tends to flip at the most random times. I think this 14 yo has some SERIOUS problems and needs to be evaluated and kept away from that boy.
I have a very loving and caring mother and two sisters with mental health issues (also very loving but with a lot of issues)… when they have episodes or issues, they trash my mother and talk about of shit. To outsiders, they would assume that they are in an abusive household but in reality, they are just lashing out at anyone they can. The point is, it’s not always abuse! Once my sisters come to their senses, they always apologize for what was said, but the damage and damage to my parents image is done. Not saying it’s never abuse, but people need to stop assuming
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i, think they were all at Fault. WHAT kind of daughter raised_up to type those messages. The parents are in- serious trouble, also WHY Jduge marily keeps put the blame on the boy's Mother when its the Father who's the abuser, the actual Villain and Violence here when ALL the mother does is Victim!!!
Everybody better sleep with their eyes open. Those texts were scary af.
On God
Definitely some creepy shit. After the way the parents acted I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t help those kids kill that poor lady. The good dad has his work cut out for him.
They'll be on Sword and Scale any month now.
Very concerning! Had me nervous!
That’s some “cold case files” type stuff
The biggest problem here is the dad saying, "I'M A YOUTH THERAPIST, I CAN LOSE MY JOB." The blind leading the blind.
Facts
He sure ditched that inane giggling and smirking once he heard those texts
Edit: Spoke too soon, he just got the boot for it. What a maniac.
Just occurred to me, I'll bet you anything he's a "certified youth therapist" at a church. My friend's husband was addicted to porn and doing "marital counseling" at their church the whole time. I won't name his occupation but it's safe to say his day job and training have *zero* to do with counseling. It's a little scary who some churches will let play with this stuff. But all just a guess on my part.
He totally threw his wife under the bus. She was so lost as to what was happening
Idk I think he said that because he meant that if he’d known, he would’ve reported it.
And for him to keep saying he isn’t going to BrEaK tHe LaW because a judge never ordered them kids to stay apart 🙄🙄🙄 the moment another parent threatens RAPE charges on my child, would be the moment they NEVER saw one another again! PERIOD!
I have been watching this show for decades and I think this is probably one of the most disturbing cases I have ever seen.
I agree
I agree 100%
@@margaretakins6829 can you find that episode and link it below! I haven’t seen that one! 😳
Totally agree. I cannot believe what the young man’s parents did and continue to do.
@Zedricc Ayerz yes! I’ve never seen this before.
It’s beyond creepy that this man is a children’s therapist.
I think you'd be surprised the proportion of people in charge of youths and kids that really shouldn't be in charge at all.
Exactly he knows the consequences
@@Team33Team33 you got scouts, catholic priests, coaches who got busted for sexual abuse.
Plenty of people who work woth kods ate absolute dirtbags. That's why they chose their fields like CPS, social work, teaching, coach, child therapist, even (especially) foster parents, etc
I do find that many therapists are actually freak lol, but I do feel that the plaintiffs are terrible parents as well, they just don't know how to parent their kids
The 14 year old is also grooming her boyfriend to murder her mother. This is insane. She’s gearing him up to commit that crime. I feel so emotional watching this. I am furious at the guys father! That man is a wicked sick monster. They also need a restraining order placed against them.
Hell yeah she is
its gonna be just like that murder of dee dee case smh
Ok now tht i understand that part what i got to say is this the kids need way more then their parents raising them , they need juvi or to be in a deliquant home or wahtever the term of a place where troubled teens live convalecnce or ?? i thinkthere is t suc ha place ??? or cfs to do something i mean everyones saying unless the adults wrote those texts but the asian mother said she felt the kid was being abused im not trying to choose sides here but if the kid is speaking about her mother in that way either im not faimliar enough with just to the strong extent that some teens hate their parents who could die at any time or there is something very unstable about the son of the other couple the daughter, n perhaps the mother &maybe even the father of the daughter , or for that matter maybe all of them lol i mean its very wishy washy to act like such good parents the daughters parents n then sound like such evil people that the daughter wants to do that to them, either that or the daughter is very messed up hmmm which b4 the texts n realizing this i didnd think they seemed like bad parents i do think they maybe a slight over protective n to much of that well make a teen run away or most teens n feel to controlled and that seems to be wahts happened she had freedom at the other house but knew that she shouldnt be there when she found out they were coming there often n searching the house what a bunch of drama n such on both these parents whatever their names are , i m just so peprlexed but again either the daughters mh is making mountians of mole hills and shes overeacting n a very dark person who has absorbed the wrong things in life , the son to, or those parents arent great parents either , im not sure but it sure sounds like 1 the aisan mother never told the cops she was being abused the daughter but then why she told the judge this hmm i do wonder if it maybe true that fact though n so someone with a caring protective heart would try n protect the kid, it wasnt her job , she liekly didnt want to get cops involved as thats stressful n she maybe felt she could handle it but ya this was just mind boggling
@@zombiesloths6410 Dee Dee Blanchard? She had munchausen by proxy and had been torturing her daughter for her entire life. Bad example
@@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor its hard to understand what u mean in your comment. It seems like u jump around a lot and are all over the place. Im sorry, im really not trying to be mean, but what I could understand, u did have some good points. This was a crazy case. Be safe everyone.
The boy's father totally knew the whole time. He just put everything on his wife so he wouldn't lose his "job". He continued to have the girl over.
Definitely agree once he mentioned his job
I agree
It is possible for the dad not to know. My dad rarely came to my room or siblings and I could have harboured someone for months and he wouldn't know. My mum on the other hand was like a sniffer dog. She was constantly in our rooms and including every room or cupboard in the house.
You just opened my eyes sheesh
So funny story I'm related to the McManus family that's my uncle and aunt. My uncle Chris actually had no clue. My aunt distracted him so my cousins gf could get out and use the bathroom and etc.... have any questions I got you guys.
This is literally the ONE CASE I want an UPDATE about!!!!!
ABSOLUTELY.. me too
Same I hope that woman ends up in jail
Melinda McManus has a criminal case pending. Can't find if she was ever convicted or not!
@@ShoobysOPINION By now the daughter is prob 17/18. But the law did NOTHING for them. They could have arrested the mother of the boy and charged her with harboring a runaway AND delinquency of a minor. But did the cops do it? NOPE. They dropped the ball.
Yessssss I need it
The boy’s father who is a youth therapist is dangerous.
Absolutely
He looks sikooo
@@Lolatorres2022 he looks like a mobster
The father needs to lose his career.
Most of them are. All they do is go along with the youths ideas even when they know they are wrong most of the time and the youths love them for it so nobody (ecept the judge here) actually gets to see how bad they really are at their jobs.
Did you see "daddy" elbow "mommy " when she started to talk about the phone?
I think there is more to this than what it looks like, wow!
Agreed. Bet he was tryin to cover his ass and get her as scapegoat
I feel like they are child predators
@@cmbsr4851 Good point. And to be fair; sounds like a predator would do
Absolutely
Lmaoo literally scrolling to see if anyone noticed
Oh this is other level. Those texts are horrifying.
and the judge ya i bet shes seen alot but even texts like that ? hmm didnt even flinch or pause or get welledup when she read them hmm
@@Selfemployedmildautisticperfor you said it. She's a judge and heard worse.
This case was a TRUE TEA SIP!!! craziest one I have seen on this channel. IT was A LOT to take in. OMGOSH...
Same girl!! That was a gallon sized sweet tea!! This case was mind blowing
Yes this definitely was a very interesting one!!
I cried
Yessss
Yes this was the best episode ever
Judge stepped up to the plate and really took the case seriously. She wanted the defendants to really understand what they did. I couldn't believe those text messages! It seems that the parents really care for their daughter.
Lady in flower dress is smokin hot. Move over pink shirt guy 🤠
@@AriesHeat-xq5ppYou are sick! Their child was missing and here you are making this comment about the poor mom who is in distress over her daughter!!!
@@AriesHeat-xq5pp your comment is in seriously poor taste. How old are you?
@susanfaulkner2304 most of his comments are talking about the litigants looks. Incel 🤢
@@susanfaulkner2304That is clearly a bot account.
That could have easily ended up being a "Dateline" episode.
I thought the same thing! 😱
Actually, it could still become one... The disturbing text messages between the boyfriend & girlfriend sound like a serious threat....to hurt someone! Absolutely horrible.
This is a future Forensic Files episode.. the plaintiff is in true danger. Teenagers are insane and have 0 impulse control.
Totally!!! 😳
Or I.D
I’m afraid the kids are going to murder the parents like I see these kind of stories on crime shows. This is SCARY
Yes, I think that's what the judge was referring to when she said 'one of those cases'. Even after that the youth therapist father still didn't seem concerned enough for my liking.
!!!!!!!!!
High key
Yeah that Tyler kid's texts were severely unhinged.
Yuppp. I feel like the parents are way more involved than they’re letting on… it’s like they’re trying to kidnap her or something
How has that guy not been fired as a youth counselor? He doesn't have the knowledge or common sense to counsel anyone, let alone impressionable youths!!
And,he's probably a government employee.
I’m sure he’s done now. He’s fucked!
Dude said he doesn’t go into his sons room because it’s dirty and makes him angry!? Wtf? How can you guide random kids but not your own? This dude is a bum. I wonder how much he paid for that ugly ass mail in bride.
Being a “youth counselor” means nothing. He doesn’t even have to be certified to say that’s what he is depending on where he’s “working” out of. It’s sick.
He should definitely be fired!
The parents of the boy should be charged for kidnapping .
It's not kidnapping. The girl was not being held against her will.
@@ering9564 The girl is a minor . The parents of the girl have every right to charge
@@ering9564 if she is 17, yeah she can do as she pleases.....so, one day, she will again run away to see her boytoy.....only difference this time, a stranger grabs her and drives away.......never to be seen again, until hunters or a massive search by cadaver dogs finds her decomposing body......
@@Waynes-xt9gr 14 years old. Dumb dumb. 14 is a HUGE difference than 17. 🙄🙄🙄
@@ering9564 if a 14 year old willfully goes with someone across state lines that her parents don’t know and no one knows her whereabouts, that’s kidnapping
My heart sank when the judge read those text messages from the 14 year old daughter to her boyfriend about wanting to torture and kill her mom.
I understand that teenagers go through this rebellious stage in their lives but never to a point of wanting to murder their parents who cares so much for them.
my heart goes out to the parents of the 14 year old girl in this case.
Should be concerned for that boy because the girl could try to manipulate him into harming her mom!
Maybe her mom is abusive and controlling and says things to harm her emotional well-being. Theres not a problem thinking like this only a problem to acting on it. Abuse exist.
@♡ Or maybe she is grooming that boy to kill her mother, because reading those text messages it definitely seems like that. You noticed in none of here texts to that boy she mentioned anything about being abused, but everytime she said something negative about her mother she followed it up with how much she missed him and how her mother is the problem. Yes abuse is real, but so is mental unstabilty
@♡ oh yes they are, but I think the other parents are putting their son at an extreme risk
That was disturbing to hear. I think we've all been mad at our parents but I can't imagine sitting here and writing in detail how you'd want your parent to suffer and ultimately d/e. Holy sh/t. That's a lot and I don't know how the parents even feel safe living in the same house with her.
Im only 5 minutes in, but that elbow nudge the defendants husband did for Malinda to STOP talking did not go unnoticed by me
I saw it too, and had to rewind to see i it was deliberate, and it was.
waaait ! what time stamp yall ? 👀
I noticed it too, I'm mad JM Didn't!!
@@KomaKazi 5:20
@@sunflower9797it's something about him that's supremely off and i believe he knew more and helped hide the daughter as well
The dad 100% facilitated everything and then begged his wife into taking the fall so he wouldn't lose his job. I'd almost put money down that he saw nothing wrong with the relationship between his son and the plaintiffs' daughter, because he has the same sorts of gross dealings with his clients.
I don’t think he begged his wife to take the fall. I think he made his wife take the fall. He was abusive. It was very obvious
I also think the wife is mentally and physically abused. He made his wife take the fall for everything. I think the father was the one hiding the girl the whole time. And the daughter will eventually be their next victim.
Anything to escape responsibility for the women. Smh
Dad has the energy of a greasy car salesman from the 80s and looks like the villain from Kindergarten Cop
@@Pinchington danny devito from Matilda vibes 😝
As someone who spent five years in the Missing Children’s Division at the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children, these defendants make my blood boil. They should have been charged with so much more than a single count of obstruction (and I wouldn’t be opposed to someone wiping that smug grin from the male defendant’s face. Hard.) I’ve heard the desperation in parents’ voices while their child is missing. They don’t sleep, they don’t eat, they barely function as they inevitably think up all the horrific things that might be happening to that child. I’ve also had cases that included those horrors, and ones who never made it home. That anyone would put someone else through that trauma is honestly one of the most appalling things I’ve ever seen - and I saw a lot working for NCMEC. They are disgusting human beings, and brava to Judge Milian for taking them to task.
And he's SMILING and LAUGHING throughout! 🤮
His wife ADMITTED in the exit interview that it was HER HUSBAND that let the girl into their house! I HOPE she says it in criminal court.
I believe the husband defendant is a sociopath. He insulted his wife without thinking twice, and I also noticed that she has a VERY bad limp as well. The guy is cruel, and I am VERY worried about what he's doing with that at risk youth!
Having had abusive parents and at 55yrs still suffering I can tell you it was assholes like you that allowed it to continue because you don't believe parents can be so sick minded, I had food and clothes so fing what I'm suffering PTSD and server depression which I've had most of my life because my farther beat me and my mother up yet she wouldn't stand up when us kids tried to get help she treats us like shit blaming us for her life he died and arssholes like you let it happen all the time someone tried to step in, that girl MUST have a reason to feel the way she does did you think about that dick head
The mother is referring to letting the child come in after the first incident. She’s not referring to the very first part.
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@@rplayer360 would not be shocked if a photo is leaked online showing the girl......who knows, maybe the "dad" has the peverted hots to let her date his son and then one day, he ends up sexually abusing her behind the son's back.....
I feel like there's so much more to the story than what we are getting...
Sounds like the son is grooming that girl
Yeah somethings very off
I feel like someone's going to be dead in the future
Well, for starters, they need to stop blaming the other wife. Their own daughter ran away of her own free will. It was her CHOICE. She ran away for a reason. IMO It wasn't just about a 'test.'
@XERO you're right, and that's why she has a case in a criminal court for harboring the teen.
What an infuriating situation. The defendant is ridiculous - if she really thought the child was being abused, she would have gone to the authorities, not harbor a minor. Unbelievable.
Exactly. Allegations of abuse could be investigated.
Lmao if u think all it takes is calling for them to report abuse your touched in the head. Unless ur a prison of power they don't investigate without multiple calls 10 to be exact or actual proof. It still takes days for them to even check up. I watch children live it every day. I have lived it also.
@@Mitsurilove_84 not true this kid was being searched for with helicopters for fucks sake
She didn’t believe she was in trouble. She was full of shit
@@Mitsurilove_84 There was a week long search for this child by the authorities. There was ample time for the defendant to let the authorities know that the child was in trouble.
The boys dad was smiling when the messages were being read ... I think the whole family is nutty .... I’m scared for the plaintiffs and their daughter .... I hope the courts involved before it’s too late
But the daughter was saying those things
Their son must be a real prize. not.
i laugh when im uncomfortable or i think something is outrageously ridiculous/ shocking and im not mf crazy so...
The plaintiffs are nutty too
@@yung1717 if thats the dad (with the neck tats etc...) no wonder the kid is also threatening.......they ALSO dont have control with the daughter.
I'm 100% convinced that the defendant (wife) is taking the fall for her husband's TERRIBLE BEHAVIOR AND ACTIONS. That man is absolutely a danger to not only his wife, his son, his son's girlfriend, and the girlfriend's parents, but also the PUBLIC. I wouldn't be surprised if he is also mistreating/abusing his wife.
Exactly because I thought the same thing when she started crying at the end. It’s weird how the father (defendant) acted as though he was 100% against it in the beginning, but as the case went on he’s 100% for the girl coming over anytime she wants because it’s legal.
No the mom knows what she did was wrong. I think the dad played dumb but after the cops came around I’m sure he knew what they were up to or didn’t care. Meanwhile those poor parents likely thought their daughter was dead in a ditch somewhere.
@@Damnsaburna That's likely too! The moral of the story is that something is definitely fishy with that father...
@@lanafan211The Father does not feel his wife was wrong. He believes the daughter. The texts should have scared them to death!
The judge is right. She is talking to a wall in this case.
Tacky question, but is the father transgender? They seem like a very odd couple. The woman acts like a robot.
This has to be one of the MOST disturbing cases I have EVER seen...EVER!
Me too
This
@@ShoobysOPINION how do you know it’s to her?
@@alexisrene5854 because it says her name and shows her Facebook account and it's the same exact first and last name that they said their daughter had in the show... but not only that, I went on her Facebook and she's friends with her family on there lol. So I found her mom and dad on there (the ones that were the plantiffs). And there's photos of her on the moms Facebook. So it's obviously her.
@@ShoobysOPINION oh okay I was wondering. I hope that they at least have something healthy now. I just don’t know how anyone could get past that. When I looked it just said he was engaged but I didn’t know who but I also didn’t look into it any further
I think the Dad knew what was going on the whole time. He's the skeeviest "youth counselor" I have ever seen.
I feel like he’s an actual abuser. He wants to control everything
Creepy and greasy.
I would agree 100 % IF the proof that they hid her from him wasn't present
Yaaasss 🤢🤮 his lil flavor savor on his chin is ICK. There is something about her face too that makes me cringe 😬
5:23 he is completely controlling. You can see how he elbowed her to shut up.
i watch too many true crime shows to not see the parallels between this case & other’s where minors have murdered for “love”. this case outrageous.
Yes. Hopefully this doesn't become a "For my man" type of case... shit is crazy !
IKR!!!!!
@@ayetam_aye the daughter is a real sociopath master manipulator and is pulling the boyfriends strings along with the fathers.
YESSSSSSSS EXACTLY...what I was thinking
I am betting it's keeping Judge M up for an extra few at night. And yes, I know she litigated some scary stuff before this part of her career.
I always rewatch this case when it comes up. THE SHEER AUDACITY never ceases to amaze me every time
lol
Agreed
I’m shocked this is a small claims case. This is clearly negligent infliction of emotional distress at the very least. This should be a 6 figure judgement in a civil case. Also, 14 year olds shouldn’t be having boyfriends. 🤬
Judge Mathis would have dismissed it with out prejudice so they can refile
@@SBIFILMSminivan exactly! Now they will be barred by res judicata. The worst part is it sounds like they have a lawyer who doesn’t seem to be properly advising them. I don’t wanna judge since I don’t have all the facts.
*EXACTLY* 14 Year olds should not have boyfriends. The fact that disturbed girl is texting death threats against her mother is why.
The boyfriend's parents are a malevolent *force.* They are not just stupid, they are evil.
@@sarannec1282 and to think he is a youth coubselor. He must pit the child against the parent. Wouldn’t want him to advise my child. Scary
YYAAASSSS!!!
Ok after listening to the texts, this people might end up murdered scary scary
I agree I thought the same thing this is crazy!! But such a good case
That was my first thought too! What is wrong with these judges? The defendants are horrible sub-humans! If something happens to the plaintiffs, the defendants are responsible as hell! Unbelievable!
15th case THESE SO CALLED DEFENDANTS KEPT THE CHILD
IN THEIR HOUSE FOR 6 DAYS.
WHAT JERKS FOR DOING THAT.
Time 10:15PM Tues 4/6/21
Exactly what I thought also. A story that hopefully doesn’t end up on Crime Watch Daily
Right they need to let this girl go to the state
I pray for the mental and physical health of the mom and dad of this young lady. I understand that teens are sometimes awful to their parents but those texts were so scary. Do not give up on her, maybe there will be a path for her to escape this mental illness of anger and continue her life in a positive way. Be safe mom and dad, God Bless you
Vesislava Todorova, you say do not give up on her. I take it that you are speaking to the mother. I get what you are saying, but at what point do you say enough is enough? This girl is talking about killing her mother. When there is a fire in your home, do you stay in the home. When there is a car speeding your way, do you get out of the way?
This girl is a burning car about to run her mother over. Her mother shiuld get out of her way, and let her crash and burn, because if not her daughter may kill her.
Her mom is my aunt lol this happened like a year ago she’s completely fine
@@stephengingo3374 that’s good bc Chile they needed help bad and that’s a damn shame
I won’t give up on my child if that happens but I would also lock her up in a behavior center to get her actual help. When I see text messages wishing they would kill me. I would be scared and I’m locking her up, so she won’t hurt her dad or me, or herself.
@@stephengingo3374 a year ago?? Still to soon.
THESE people (ADULTS) are the problem!!
WHEN the Judges just being too Harsh on the asian Lady(wife and Mother) when her Husband may be the Abuser!!
I didn't know we were in the business of throwing wild accusations out there.
@@xXLilSmurthXx yea....ofc, donald TRUMP@!! Go back to your KAREN parenting like the GIRLS' Parents🤭🤭
@xXLilSmurthXx yea...yea, Yeah!!
Ofc, donald TRUMP@!!!🤭🤭
Go bacK being "KAREN- parenting" like the Girls' PARENTS
@@SooJoeyoun?
I saw him elbow her when she first started talking. Weird.
That man seems to know a lot more of what he’s admitting to. The fact that he raised the “I could lose my job for this” statement makes one wonders if he forced his wife to take the blame for this 🤦🏻♂️
Agreed. The text was probably staged.
Yes and they know that his son probably is a psychopath. I saw a series with a similar situation and it resulted that it was the guy that was grooming the girl and was a psychopath. He ended up killing her and his mom spotted and covered up until she suicided.
In the end, she says “my husband did it”
Yes in the end she Admitted it was the husband who let her in! She admitted that she should’ve stood her ground.
At least one of those parents knew the girl was in the house because someone had to be feeding her, she was likely taking a shower, etc. and go try hiding in a storage room for an hour or two and see if you can actually "hide" there for very long. It's almost impossible to do so without making some kind of noise.
“my wife’s heart is a lot bigger than her brain” i can’t believe she’s taking the fall for this rat
@@SooHooSamaSito isactly why is the man been singled out she so cold hearted and matter affect about it the boys mother is disgusting to she didn't give a dam she boils my blood watching her
As soon as he said he didn't want to lose his job for this, I already had a feeling he was putting the blame on his wife, especially when he basically insulted her with her heart being bigger than her brain. It clearly shows he feels superior to her and that she's submissive to him.
When at the end she said her husband was the one who did it, I wasn't surprised. She got spooked when they said she could go to prison for this. If he laughed in court for harboring a missing child in his home and actually smiled when the judge read those text messages, it's not that hard to see what's going on. She's even the one who had to tell him to stop laughing, but he didn't, which says a lot about who he is.
She clearly knew, but he most likely told her not to say anything to the police. It's still her fault for not telling the police, but it's strange that first she said she didn't know because she had work, but then went along with it when her husband blamed her, then backtracked at the mention of going to prison. It's a huge mess and a big divorce. I'm not one bit surprised he tried to throw her under the bus to save his own ass.
Also, I'm not surprised the daughter lied to the woman about "abuse" when those horrendous text messages about her own mother exist.
They are both rats.
He threw his wife under the bus! The worst youth therapist EVER!
Oh, shut it. She's every bit as bad as him. Worse, in fact, because she's the MOTHER, that "primary caregiver", the one who's job it is to raise the children while the man supports them. He's in denial, and he knows more than he admitted, but SHE allowed it from the first day, and is continuing to corrupt the girl, encouraging her to hate her parents. There's a reason he wasn't charged but SHE'S facing jail. Put your vagina away and stop blaming men for women's misdeeds.
The boys parent should be paying for the helicopters swat team detectives and everybody else who was searching for nothing, wasting taxpayers dollars.
The boys parents still has court dates after this one. They will be paying that. They are in some serious stuff.
even crazier is that THIS court case was recorded and can be used as evidence in her own trials. That mom is going to jail and that dad is losing his job, big time.
Why? It was the daughter who instigated all of this. She knew what she was doing. She's not a little innocent kid like they made her out to be.
@@digby_dooright It's because the girl is a minor and the defendants are adults. In a case like this, the minor will get a free pass for not knowing better but the defendants are in big trouble because as adults you are expected to obey the laws and law enforcement which these two did not do.
@@jessicabarczewski1910 it doesnt take a minor "harvard knowledge" to poison a drink or food......and if she can get access to Fentanyl, OMG!!!!! just 1 dose and someones DOA......Kids nowadays dont beleive that mommy's egg was pierced by daddy's "hot ta trot" sperm and it created a frkn BRAT!!!!! who maybe in the future, is a murderer.
The dad laughing during his sons text messages is SICK.
When you think being "besties" with teen children is more important than parenting....
Well stated... Most parents these days are trying to be their children's friend instead of their parents... YOU can't do both...
That's my ex wife in a nutshell.
FR LIK ITS PEDOPHILLIA
Drives me a little crazy when people, both the parent and child, say that the other is their best friend. I would never had said that about my mom. She was a normal mom, didn't try to be a friend. Just tried to raise us the best she could.
@@tootsd my ex-wife is exactly like this loon in court. She is hellbent to be our daughter's best friend rather than her parent. There is nothing I can do while my daughter is at her mother's which sucks. I have rules and certain things I don't allow under my roof. My Ex lets my 15-year-old daughter's boyfriend sleep over in the same bed. Goes to school when she wants. Does what she wants when she wants. How do I compete with that? I have curfews, must go to school, no sleepovers with boyfriends and I want to know where she goes and when she is coming home. Another messed up thing is my ex is the one that physically abused our daughter when she was younger and smaller. I've never raised a hand to her, I've only raised my voice to her 2 times in her life, I have never said anything emotionally abusive to her but I'm the bad guy.
I’m watching this one again in 2023. This is one of the most shocking cases . Been watching since they started. The defendant (wife) should have been arrested on the spot. That couple needs to be stopped. The dad is creepy. I’m sure that 17 year old will ‘knock’ up their daughter . This is a train wreck. Infuriating
Those texts are PSYCHOPATHIC. More than two million say this case MIND BLOWING
I one hundred percent agree with you
I had to rewatch, too. Those texts are scary. I can't understand the "dad" who kept saying he wasn't going against the judge's order. Like, what?! The judge allegedly said the girl could still visit the bf, but he didn't order it. And it's weird that dad didn't say, hell no! After all this, you're not coming around anymore!
I was so confused as to what dad y’all were talking about. I thought the dad was a short lil woman with a middle part bun 💀
Omg I hope the (Dad) no longer works with troubled children cause I could only imagine what he is saying to those children😢😢
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The most upsetting case I’ve ever seen. I pray the girls mother stays safe.
And the girl is getting the proper help she needs to get on track with her life at a young age
That 14 year old sounds mentally ill.
@@angelacarleton9575extremely, she said all those things about murder, torture, burning her mother alive. I have no doubt that she is a Psychopath, complete malice with no regrets, she needs to be institutionalized
She's fine. More likely Claudia was getting some kind of abuse at home.
China
The defendant needs to loose his therapist license!
For me one of the scariest parts of this whole thing is that someone let's THAT GUY👉👉👉 work with kids!!!😫😱😨
They gotta investigate the dad. Homie is a certified youth therapist, and facilitating this toxic environment for that girl and his son. He has abuse vibes for sure.
Also, what the hell is he allowing a 14 year old girl in the house with just him and his son? The wife says she's never home! That's downright sickening.
Absolutely.
@@jeanjennings5712 the boy's family is grooming her for some reason. Looking at the girls parents, she may be beautiful with her mixed heritage.
Family friend had same problem..she'd drop her daughter off at school..and the boyfriend "groomer" would be waiting around the corner to pick her up. Resolution: sent her kid to Pineywood School for Country Life in Mississippi...problem solved.
He never knew she was in the house. But that Tyler is running things.
5:14 YOU LITERALLY CAN SEE HIM NUDGE HER BECAUSE SHE MESSED UP - implying that they are hiding something!! Can’t believe no one else picked up on that? 🤦🏻♀️
I was wondering if anyone else caught that too.
I re-watched that part good catch
Yessssssss I caught that and was like 👀👀👀👀 he just nudged her. They are def not saying the truth and mama was probably talking too much.
I definitely did!
I saw it and came to the comments to see who else caught that.
Those text messages remind me of Gypsy Rose. They better be on alert. She would have to leave my house. They have other children and have to think of their entire family to think of.
Exactly and would go live with the Defendants. Those text messages say a lot and she sounds like she'll kill them in order to be with "her man"
Right.
@@PeaceIsAlwaysBeautiful92 Yep. She wants to be with her boyfriend so bad, and his family doesn't seem to care. She can live with them
Let her go live with the other fam. Kill them n their sleep
Exactly. Daughter would have to be out.
The judge is right! The defendants has NO RIGHT to hold that child at their house, they should have known this would all blow up. Should be in jail!
The certified youth therapist is afraid he can lose his job over this? HE SHOULD!
The husband’s (defendant) behavior in court regarding this situation.... proves he’s unfit as a youth therapist!! (should be fired).
@@elainevankat5353 just the fact that he claims he was completely oblivious to what was happening in his home shows he’s unfit. I don’t believe for a second that he didn’t know. He’s just trying to protect his job
They need to investigate this youth therapist he was creepy and kept laughing and smiling throughout
No he shouldn't
@@jameelahjhayes6139 yes he should just for the fact that he's willing to accept the girl back in his house.
Boys parents look totally bizarre, exactly what you'd expect if this horror story was a horror film.
Girl’s parents look like creeps, Richard Rameriz looking father
@@freereign911 have you been an idiot all your life or just the few seconds it took to write your comment that the girl's parents look like creeps.. Never mind I'll answer for you. Yeah,, that would be all of your life with an ASININE comment like that!!
@@52Rambler All of my life! Were you born missing 98% of your chromosomes? It’s obvious that the teens are co -dependant on one another and that this girl has issues within her home!?! Tf you offended for? Take care of your own life and/or ugly offspring that you’ve unleashed onto society, u a goofy🤡
Both families look crazy
True
At the end she LITERALLY said”i didn’t let her in my home my husband did I’m never home” she definitely just told that her husband knew all along
I think she was refering to after the fact.
WOW good catch!!!
Yeah, she will probably pay for it too. I can kinda see the type of culture in their home-- controlling, dysfunctional and codependent. The are an odd looking pairing too.
She meant after the "big search."
It's everyone's fault but hers, she just lives there. I hope she rots in jail as she deserves.
I've seen this specific case about a dozen times but I watch each time because the parents DESERVED to be yelled at like that for being such horrible people. That girl is clearly struggling and they keep allowing the drama and trouble.
As a dad of a 16 year old girl, this is so upsetting. My heart goes out to her parents, and I hope one day there can be forgiveness.
As a dad of a young daughter this story breaks my heart as a father of a young man this story is even more heart breaking. As a father and a man physically I don’t think any being in the world would have kept me from entering that home and harming them
@@jonathoncunningham3939I definitely understand. My son actually just only turned ,2 today and I am absolutely dreading the teens years for stuff like this especially these days when it seems parents have so little say. It's parents like the two of you that let me breathe easier knowing it won't just be me up against a bunch of teenage minded parents who care more about being friends than parents
The BF's parents are delusional. I cannot believe he is a youth counselor with that type of convoluted logic about it being legal and following what a judge said. Terrible patenting.
His demeanor was extremely bothersome!
And he tried to let Judge Milian feel like she’s not a real judge. He said “the real judges upstate”. Very disrespectful.
I hope the defendant LOSES his job as a child counselor!!! The wife should be in jail doing 10 years NO time reduction for good behavior even though the jails are crowded. Horrible people.
He ain't no youth counselor. He lying
Agreed. The entire time I was thinking (OMG) somebody take his clients from him!
When I first saw the comments I was amazed at how many people were saying the father knew, but as I watched more, it became more and more alarming how cruel he is. There are several tells. Trying to focus more on him not wanting to lose his job vs. the parents pain of thinking the worst happened to their daughter. Easily tossing his wife under the bus and easily saying his wife has more heart than brain and her not even flinching from that. Him continuing to allow the daughter into his house knowing full well as a "counselor" that action would continue to cause a rift. Him then trying to say he's not going to go against a judges order when he knows damn well the judge didn't order the daughter into his house, the judge just said it wasn't illegal for her to visit. And most alarmingly, he was smiling as Judge M read those atrocious texts between the daughter and his son and he ONLY looked worried or contrite when she focused on him. I GENUINELY hope he lost his job and can't find employment dealing with children and kids.
The texts were used as evidence that the father didnt know but Im now realizing it was probably staged to clear his name before giving up
Exactly! Why would he want her in his house with all the drama that was caused and just knowing his wife can go to jail following this incident. If he didn’t know and he was so angry with his son he would have grounded him for life. He can’t have any company come over especially this girl. Only reason he would have to keep allowing her into the house is to be cruel.
I'm just thinking the same thing. Check out my comments written a few minutes ago!!
That's the sick thing about that father..he is enjoying this being able to have power to affect peoples lives .its a sick game that feeds his god complex
Agreed.
Wow…those kids are DANGEROUS!!! Another Gypsy Rose case 😮
Yes I seen cases where the daughter trying to get the boyfriend kill her step mom. It's wrong but they both need to control their kids because she the one sneaking out. And something must be going on in that home that we all not know about
Gypsy Rose isn't a fair comparison tbh.
Her mother was psycho and convinced her and everyone in that town that she had an illness she didn't have.
remind you of that case where the 2 teens went on a camp trip in her van and the bf ended up killing her.....then, he killed himself?
She was abused, these kids were not.
@@Waynes-xt9grgabby pettito
WHAT A HORRIBLE PERSON! She doesn't look like she's sorry about hiding someone else's child at all! I would sue them too!
You would THINK, as a mother herself, she would have AT LEAST had the decency to call the girl's Mom and say "Your daughter is with me in our home. She is safe. You can come pick her up if you want to, or she is welcome to stay her for a day or two until she calms down. But to OUTRIGHT LIE and deny that they know where the plaintiff's daughter is (when she is right there in their home) is just insane. They SHOULD be charged with obstruction and more.
@@CeltycSparrow They are delusional. Lucky the parents of the girls didn't take the law into their own hands. Not alot of people would have that kind of patience.
This is a bigger problem they might try, and kill her parents
@@kanyegang2810 ABSOLUTELY scary stuff omg
I would have fight her every time I see her..
When I was 18 I lived on my own and my 16 year old girlfriend got in a fight with her parents ran away from home. She came to my house telling me what she had done. She said she was going to move in and she didn't want her parents to know where she was. I knew her parents would be besides themselves with worry so I went behind her back and called her mom and told her where she was and that I would be respectful and try and convince her to go home. My girlfriend got mad at me for pushing her to go home but she finally did. Unfortunately her parents let it slip that I had ratted her out. She broke up with me. I really loved her but I still to this day, and especially now as a parent, think I did the right thing. A 14 year old girl has more drama with her parents for no reason than you can believe is possible. These neighbors need to get out of the way.
I would do the same in a heartbeat.
❤
You’re a good man/woman/non binary
The boyfriend was even being quite manipulated by her. The 14 year-old was actually trying to get him to kill her mom. Those text messages in a row were frightening, and the husband was actually smiling and then realized someone could notice, so he stopped.
You did the right thing💛
I believe with all my heart the boy's mother is taking the fall for this for the husband.
I agree
Stop trying to put the blame on men, his wife is a grown woman,not a child...
@@derrickmathews476 stop trying to make this a “blame the men” thing. Reading the body language you can tell there is no wAy he did not know what was going on the house.
@@derrickmathews476 it's not trying though. 5:14, he nudges his wife when she says something wrong. they are hiding something
@@bizzy1586 stop trying to make this a I can read body language and ignore the verbal evidence thing.
Its obviously the boy Father is an Abuser, so why blame the Mother instead and out to make her the Villain when she's the actual Victim here!!
@@allenthien3103 because she is the villain.
@@allenthien3103 because she is the villain
@@Sleazy30. I bet，your wife&Kids said the same to youuu.…too!!
@@golinlim2221 dude what
@@Sleazy30. no inkglisch..…??
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Judge telling mom to not give up on her girl brought me to tears. I was one of those mentally ill teenage girls once upon a time. It's hard. I wish the family the best.
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Everything isn't mental illness. Sometimes it's bad parenting and stupid little fuckers being stupid...
Mentally ill is putting it mildly... in regard to those texts
THIS. My mother just berated me instead, even though it was inherited from her. Now I have my own 16 year old daughter who has been showing signs of mental illness for a year or no now. I refuse to be like my mother though.
Also used to be one of those kids. 14 is a pretty fucked up age for kids with mental illness, I think. It really is an age where you truly begin to believe you know everything, including the consequences of your actions - but it's so much more serious than these kids could ever realize. I can only hope they can get both of them (or I guess at least the daughter now, seeing as the son is likely aged out) into some kind of program to help them get back on track. That was what I needed, desperately, and I will always be grateful for the adults who helped me during that time.
This is actually very serious, I’ve seen enough police interrogation videos to see that they are extremely close to going through with murdering her mother, and I’m being extremely serious!
Agreed! It happens more than people realize, majority of the cases aren't brought to the public, but are featured in adds or 1 short news segment. Children and teens are not that innocent anymore, we have to keep our heads on a swivel even with our loved ones sad to say.
Facts
No seriously and your first thought would be “oh no way their kids” but being around kids and teens they are veryyy manipulative when things don’t go their way and it’s scary at how far they go to get what they want
Kids/ teens don’t want to be just kids/teens anymore they want to grow up too fast and anyone that’s gets in their way it’s a problem smh I pray for the youth that they get the guidance and help they need honestly
Kids nowadays are far too entitled and feel they should get and have whatever they want! They have in their heads that they're the parent and we're the child! And just give me what I want and I won't have a fit!!
@@paulasevcik5622 i miss the good ol’ days when children were seen and not heard.
This is a true crime episode in the making. These defendants CANNOT be serious.
I love this judge! She spoke from the heart at the end
JM has a rich hubby!!!! dayum!! thats a HUGE ROCK on her ring finger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been binge watching people’s court and judge Mathis for weeks now. Being a father of a girl and 2 boys. Judge milian’s passion for this case actually brought me to tears. I love this lady.
Yes, I could see the former prosecutor in her. This impacted her greatly. I pray this young girl and family to heal and be restored again 🙏
I don't even have kids, and I got emotional too. I can imagine the difficulty in trying to raise a child right with so many negative influences, along with the duress of not knowing where your child is for 6 days, all because of the malicious negligence of the defendants.
She has teens herself, so the mom in Judge Milian came out in this case too.
I went through a similar situation, and it was very difficult because when my daughter ran away, she crossed the state lines. So I had to get two states to cooperate and work together. I went through 37 false abuse claims in 26 months. All came back unfounded. It was excruciating. I never gave up, though. My daughter is now an adult, and getting ready to become a mom herself. She’s being induced in 2 days and our relationship is amazing. We are so close and she has grown into a remarkable young woman. Don’t give up mama!!! I promise this will all be worth it one day.
If it was your stepdaughter, would you have put in the same effort? The girl in the episode is the woman’s stepdaughter.
@@rachelw6237 As a stepparent in my stepkid's life since they were 2 & 4, I say yes. My stepchildren are 30 & 32. We have a very loving relationship although I divorced their dad in 2009. Their children call me grandma. But I would have fought tooth & nail if the circumstances needed it.
Glad you guys have a great relationship now! I ran away a few times from my home because of abuse, child services came over but nothing changed from it. I moved out as soon as I was 17 :) My mum and I text each other mostly, but my dad I haven’t spoken to since then
Ngl I hope her kids give her just as much trouble, that is not an easy thing to go through.
Youre a better person than i could be. If someone falsely accuses me of anything, let alone that sort of thing, theyre out. Even as an angry teen when i was hormonal etc, id never have thought to disrespect my folks with false allegations of that nature.
I think the dad knew she was there! He seems more concerning than the wife.
at the end the wife seemed more repentant and scared while talking to Doug. Maybe she was just following her husband's demands.
Agreed. He seemed so normal at the beginning and then it went all the way downhill!
Agree! I think he knew, and letting the wife take the blame!
@@cynthiamoore3401 absolutely! Even the way he said her heart was bigger than her brain. That relationship gives weird vibes
The lady said the husband allowed the girl in their house. He just didn't want to lose his "youth therapist" license, so he let the wife take the fall
the JUDGE were VERY Harsh on the ASIAN Lady(a wife & a Mother) but when really, she's the Victim, victim of an Abused Husband!! In addition to that, the girls' PARENTS are N.O any better(don't act the real Victim) when especially AFTER....reading the Daughters Text!!!
You might be a moron. They hide someone's daughter so that their son could F*#$ a minor. Yeah poor asian woman.😂
This is going to end up being one of those cases where the gf talks her bf into murdering her parents
That's what the judge was trying to get through to the defendants but was talking to a brick wall
My thoughts exactly
Exactly
That's literally exactly it though ... Scary
Hopefully that is being prevented now and the parents filled the claim that same day or the next
The guy’s dad said, “I’m talking about real judges in Rochester.” Savage!
Their daughter sounds like she’s off her rocker beyond normal teenage angst. I hope everyone’s in a better place now.
Yeah little does he know that she's basically a genius who graduated college early with honors, but who went on to work at Harvard Law, and then after that as an assistant State Attorney in Florida, and then ultimately landing herself the position of Circuit Court Judge in Miami County.... all at a young age. Younger than most.
So she IS a real judge. In fact, her particular brand of spiciness, humor and intelligence is what made her stand out amongst other judges and what got her the offer to replace Judge Judy's husband, Judge Jerry Sheindlin on the People's Court.
Most people don't know that Judge Judy's husband also had his own court show (the people's court) in the late 90s I believe
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She is a real judge, but she's also a retired* judge. The bio you shared is interesting bc you noted that MM replaced Judge Jerry Sheindlin, but then you wrote that you "believed" he had his own(?) show, (TPC-is a Stu Billett production) in the late 90s, you "believe", lol. He was, in FACT, the Judge on TPC before MM took over in 2001, but Ed Koch was there before him, and Wapner was there before Koch.😉
@@heathernks8 read it again. I didn't say I believed he had his own show. I said "most people don't know that Judge Judy's husband had his own court show (the people's court) in the late 90s I believe".
I wasn't saying he was the inventor of the show, and I didn't say he was the first judge to preside over TPC... I was merely saying that, just like his wife, he also had a court show where he was the judge. And the only thing I said "I believe" about was that it was in the late 90s, which I was ultimately correct about.
Not sure what your point of coming at me was when every single thing I said was accurate and factual. And I never said judge Milian wasn't retired from the Miami court system. However she's not retired overall. She's still a judge... on this show. So her being retired from the Miami court system is irrelevant, as she's still a judge that presides over cases, whether they be on TV or not.
I said what I said because that guy in this episode implied that Judge Milian isn't a real judge... like he thinks she's just a television personality judge... Basically just an actress playing a judge or something; and that's not the case at all. She is a real judge. Thus, why I gave her credentials and back story for those who don't know. Because not only is she a real judge, she's actually extremely ambitious, intelligent, and broke barriers as one of the youngest female judges to ever be appointed in Miami. She's a Prodigy in my opinion.
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I wasn't "coming at you", lol. I was just noting that she's retired, so she's now considered a "television personality" by her own bio. I was also noting that part of your bio seemed like it was copied bc it didn't make sense to write: "I believe" after you clearly stated it was a fact.🙂It was nothing personal At ALL. It just made me giggle. I didn't know that Judge Jerry was married to Judge Judy.😃✌
I thought the judge heard that and was bout to snap! Couldn’t b judge Mathis! I wish this was his case lol
Judge telling her to not give up on her daughter and to pursue everything she can made me tear up because I felt like she felt like she couldn’t and she assured her she could.
Punctuation please!
Judge Milian even to this day says it’s one of her most disturbing cases ever. She was on Tamron Hall’s show recently and mentioned it
Oh wow! This is my first time seeing this case and I’m so disturbed that I’m trying to find the conclusion to the other case against the defendant and I want to know whether they were able to get the daughter the help she needed.
The daughter doesn't know how truly blessed she is to have a mother who would never give up on her. I know my mom would've put me out if I was acting the way she is at her age! 😩
but its her stepmother she might still take the role of mother i dont know but the dinamic might also be totaly different then what they showed on tv
@@petakpetak5386 bruh that’s my aunt my cousin was mentally insane she tried to assault my aunt
@@stephengingo3374 what do you mean ,sorry i dont understand ,who is your aunt ?
Same. My old school Italian grandmother raised me. I was allowed at my best friends house only and she always called to talk to her mom. I always got mad at her because she was so strict. Now that I'm older, I appreciate her for it. So many bad things happen to people. These young kids have to realize their parents are trying to keep them safe. Being strict isn't always them being mean.
@@stephengingo3374 That’s awful, I can’t say I’m surprised based on her testimony. I hope your Aunt is okay, she seems to be very loving and caring- I hope your cousin gets the help she needs, and is away from this boy and his family!
I refuse to believe the father didn’t know their daughter was there. Like he said he’s a child counselor and could get fired for this, so he throws his wife under the bus and lets her take all the heat. That family needs to be investigated I think there’s a lot more going on than what we’re hearing and seeing. And I’m getting serious abuser and abused vibes from that guy and his wife.
The girl's mom said the boys parents got divorced and the father is now homeless. Even if he wasn't convincted he definitely got what was coming to him.
I got the same vibe.you can see he has all the power in that house.He even insults her in public saying she is sweet but is stupid and needs him to make the decisions.if he is like that in public i can't imagine what he's like at home.total tyrant.definition of Napoleon syndrome.i feel for all of them except for him
@@Hierophant52314 source?
@@kinndah2519 The girl's mom responded to a comment I wrote. And she confirmed it.
@@Hierophant52314 I do know that they were separated a while back. I wouldn't trust what Claudia's stepmom says completely bc she seems narcissistic against Claudia & is upset that she feels more comfortable with her boyfriend & his family. Claudia is now in college & she & Tyler are still together. I wouldn't be surprised if the Stepmom is exaggerating on the homeless part. Divorced, yes I believe it, especially since they were separated. However, maybe he just left the house and was staying with someone until he got a place. I know people that try to make the other person look bad during divorce and they want to go ahead and say they're homeless when they really are just waiting to move into a new home that they already signed off on.
How did that guy get a job as a youth counselor? They're monsters!
He needs to be fired!!
He needs to be on an abuse registry
The fact that he thinks it ok because it’s legal. 🤬
@@KittyInkel Yes... That part!
i totally disagree with the verdict , both the plaintiffs and the defendants are not totally credible , the judge should have not awarded the plaintiffs for messing up their own daughter to the point that their own daughter hates her mother , there is most likely alot that the plaintiffs are not revealing about things that they let happen to their daughter when she was a child .
i, don't Understand why blame it on the Mother of the boy parents when it was the Father who's the abuser and the real- Villain of this story while the Mother is the actual victim here.
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The defendants son is talking about TORTURE, setting someone on fire and hearing her screams.....but he is afraid of an angry father???
Oh no, that wasn’t the boy that wrote that that was their daughter She was trying to grow the boy to kill her stepmom.
@@Lady.Luck7640 if that caucasian lady was her "step mom", then the dude with them "tats" was her real dad...........NO WONDER!!!! makes sense!!! he also threatened the asian mom for "not looking eye to eye" at them......maybe, the asian woman was also threatened, BY her hubby. fyi, I live in the islands and SEE how polynesian guys personality are.....lot of times they do look threatening.
They need control of their daughter first. But yes those texts were disturbing as hell. They need to keep both kids away from each other. But hearing those text messages they will always find a way to be together.
Controlling a teenager is not that easy. The legal system can/will only go a far and you have other folks like these parents will get in the way.
@@Salutations26 well they are engaged now or the son is. Some lady in the comments literally searched the dude up on fb and even found the girl as one of his friends on there. So yeah they may still be together
@@christopherepere5425 well good luck. The mom and dad of the girl need to let her go and try to live in peace.
You’re saying they need to “control” their daughter. That’s a whole human being. The girl probably did tell them she was being abused.
@@Salutations26 yeah its called PSYCH HOSPITAL!! That little girl is her own parent! Clearly they let their daughter get out control to the point she is plotting her mothers DEATH!
At the end, the defendant says "my husband let her stay there, I was at work" so he knew the entire time.
Right!
Right. Because he said at 1st, he didn't wouldn't want all of this because he would have gotten fired. He shady
She let her in and hid her the first time, now the husband is letting her come over whenever because "it's legal". It's probably an underhanded way to get his wife a bigger sentence during her trial to get back at her (and probably make the divorce proceedings easier on his end).
Wow! What a case. My 13 year old son ran away once without a coat in the winter. We called everyone. He was gone 3 nights. My Mother did not want me to call the police. I finally figured out why. He was at my brother’s house.
The defendants don't get how serious this is. This is one step away from an episode of Snapped
The kids aren't in love. They are obsessed and dependent on each other for emotional support. And we can all see how incredibly unhealthy it has become.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
My thoughts exactly
"Riveting case" indeed. Maybe the most unusual and surely one of the saddest cases ever aired on this program.
Point ✅ noted
This was very emotional. I cried real tears just watching 😢
THESE Parents are the real- Problem here.!!
BOTH side of the Parents when knowing the fact that BOTH of the Kids are jus Under_aged, and the Judges were a Bit Harsh on the asian Lady(wife) whe she's the Victim of the abusers(by the husband)!!
Yikes! The defendant insulted the judge but I don’t think she caught it- he said something about “it was a REAL judge...”
I CAUGHT THAT TOO!!! Insane!
She's not a judge though and she never was. She's an arbitrator and she was only ever a prosecutor.
@@fittik4554 That's incorrect...she served five years in the Miami County Court in the Domestic Violence Court, Criminal, and Civil divisions, and 2 years on Miami Circuit Court in the Criminal Division.
That's why she clapped back when she said that lady that walked out of here isn't her mother lol
She caught it. She was just so p***sed at him she didn't respond. That's why she finally kicked him out.
I love how Doug rubs it in. He’s making sure she understands that’s she’s going to jail, as he should 😂
😂 Doug is always out there keeping up mess with the people after they lose a case! He is the best 🤣🤣
Doug is so messy lmao. He STAYS being extra and making sure he rubs every negative detail in... Hard lol
He does it every episode. And ngl, sometimes I'm 'like daaamn Doug, shut up! They get it! They're fucked! Lol'
@@ShoobysOPINION 😂😂
Nothing happened though. The stepmom said on fb that they couldn't get a restraining order, so it was a little annoying to watch JM go off on the defendants bc I knew that wouldn't happen in a real courtroom, so she was giving the plaintiffs false hope. The "dad" probably knew it, too, ("The JUDGE said it's ok") and that was part of the reason why he was laughing.. The Judge Judy/theatricality of it all.
This was the one time I didn't mind Doug being an absolute jerk! LOL
That woman's husband probably knew everything and then threw his wife under the bus so he doesn't lose his job. Who smiles are a parents pain especially when you also have children.
The boy's father struggling for excuses to justify why he's gonna keep welcoming a 14-year-old girl into his home is the creepiest thing about any litigant on The People's Court in the history of The People's Court.
That boys father laughing and smirking tells it all.
The fact that he's a therapist and counsel's children is incredibly disturbing.
Short man syndrome. He thinks he’s all macho man and wants his boy to get laid to prove he’s macho too.
He probably molested the girl.
What does it tell?
@@rplayer360 it tells me what I interpreted and it tell you whatever you interpreted.
The defendants are Class A thugs. They should be locked up for what they did. The plaintiff's daughter has a LOOOOOOOTTT of issues. She needs counseling ASAP
Lord!! We need to all sit in zoom call to discuss this further because this comment section isn't enough.
I swear!! This is crazy
And we need an UPDATEE
Yes we need an update
Even at the end her husband said he allowed her that is just outrageous the wife was being bashed and he was laughing what a man he is
Yes that would be dope this is INSANE
Are they paid actors ??
DID the judges chose the asian(LADY) be the punched bag of this Movie/ Tv series ??
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The defendant husband clearly runs his house. He does what he wants and you can tell his wife is submissive to his wishes. He threw her under the bus and made her take the time instead of manning up.
So glad JM let it be known the courtroom is HER HOUSE, and she runs this roost, sorry buddy. 🤗
yeh u see him elbow her the very first time she talks? as in like 'shut up, stop talking'
That's why WM marry AW. The submission
@@aqueenchi117 Exactly!! No one seemed to notice that. He totally controls her.
@@robertjackson3779 and because they don't want any ginger children
@@jessicabarczewski1910 lmao
If the parents are reading this: I was a horrible teen and put my mom through the same thing. I now have three kids of my own and I’m a lawyer. This after dropping out of high school. My mom is now my best friend. Hang in there! It will pass, I promise!!
Awesome testimony!!!!
@@troyabrams8539 thank you!
You couldn't have been that HORRIBLE to your mother.
I’m glad you overcame the childhood obstacles. I don’t know if you ever wanted to kill or torture your mother 😩... but I hope you use your story to help this generation coming up.
Thank you for sharing this, I am sure this will help someone else for another family. 🌟
We know that the Defendants are messed up but after them messages ummm the daughter has ALOT of issues too. Counseling may not be enough.
Exactly there could be several reasons the mom hid her maybe she was scared of her son. But the daUghter is clearly disturbed and started this whole saga, she’s not innocent. Sounds like there could be some pre planned attacks in the works
Those messages were an eye opener. The girl hates her mother with a passion. And it’s not every day a 14 year old girl goes into that kind of detail about un-aliving her own mother.
I agree with all of y’all even tho the boy’s parents were 100% wrong n she deserves to go to jail Really both of them….but that lil girl has some deep issues n I think her parents are n real danger cuz the kids are plotting to kill them…but the boys parents seem to be encouraging it….
I can’t even imagine as a mom (I have a 14 yr old son) having to read that and know that’s how your kid feels about you. Even knowing there are some mental issues and it may/may not be real feelings. We all hate our parents at some point during the teenage years but that’s….not even close to normal. That sounds like a young Jennifer Pan.
i, felt Judge Marilyn are quite lean against the boy Parents especially the boy side' Mother. when the FATHER is the TRUE Abuser, she's even afraid of telling him !!
WHILE the girl side are N.O any different, just look at her text messages and their conversations!!!
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If someone finds out how their next case goes in court please post an update.
Yes
For those of us who wants an update:
Their names are Christina and Zarul Vasquez..... daughter is Claudia.
The creepy lady's name is Melinda O'Dell McManus (on Facebook also) & her son is Tyler. They are in Rochester, NY. Dad is Christopher
Alrighty....someone else has to take the next part of this investigation lol. Btw mom is on Facebook too if that helps
Please
@@Theweezle12 wow!
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The defendant/husband is a piece of work. Considering what happened, his affect is baffling. His smirks, grins and chuckles indicate that there's something seriously wrong with his strategies when confronting difficult situations. I weep for the youth he supposedly "counsels". If it were up to me, I wouldn't let him near any kids. Hopefully, his boss/superiors see this episode and realize that he's -- utterly and completely -- emotionally incompetent.
According to Christine the boy's parents got divorced and the father is now homeless. Even if he wasn't convincted he definitely got what was coming to him.
@@Hierophant52314 where did u head that info from Christine??
@@JM_HUh I got a reply from her when I commented on the Facebook page of the case.
Notice how he elbows the wife when she first speaks and mentions the phone being confiscated?
@@MrWebby93 yes at 5:23
Those texts were really scary and the couple`s daughter sounds out of control with psychopathic tendencies.
The girl urgently needs to go for a psychiatric evaluation because I believe the girl is capable of doing her parents some real harm, we hear about such cases often.
Are they paid actors ??
DID judge Marilyn chose the asian staff(LADY) to be her punched bag in this Tv Movie, series ??
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This situation is scary. Especially the kids because I've seen episodes of for my man where they've actually killed the parent or parents because of hate!! Also the defendant thinks this is funny
I love "for my man"! I was thinking the same thing when she started reading those texts. Sounded just like an episode of it.
What they did was very wrong, but could be that the defendant has a nervous laugh.
For my man, YES!!!! Seen too many crimes like this
@@vanessaouyang1220 nope, not nervous, he was laughing contemptuously at the other parents because he thought they were being ridiculous. They were not.
It’s too much not being said. The parenting on both sides is off and it shows
I'd like to see a picture of their children though. They're both mixed and I bet they're beautiful children. Off topic, I know. I'm just curious.
@ZoeZoe The Indigo I'm glad someone can see that.
Facts
Yup. I was scrolling through the comments wondering if it was just me that saw the stepmother was off.
@@jasm760 facts man
Having been a physically and mentally abused child myself I grew up with hate for my own father. All I can say, nobody knows what goes on inside a home when the front door is closed.
I was thinking the same thing. Something isn't right about the stepmother
And as someone who has been around kid with mental challenges some being more violent or manipulative than others. All I can say is it is not always about abuse, and if they had proof of abuse then any smart human would have had her talk to the police
It’s not always abuse. Some kids are just troubled and need guidance. We’ve had to find a therapist for our daughter because, despite having a loving home, she’s quite violent when she’s angry and tends to flip at the most random times. I think this 14 yo has some SERIOUS problems and needs to be evaluated and kept away from that boy.
@@endearmentthedoe1191 yup!!!
I have a very loving and caring mother and two sisters with mental health issues (also very loving but with a lot of issues)… when they have episodes or issues, they trash my mother and talk about of shit. To outsiders, they would assume that they are in an abusive household but in reality, they are just lashing out at anyone they can.
The point is, it’s not always abuse! Once my sisters come to their senses, they always apologize for what was said, but the damage and damage to my parents image is done.
Not saying it’s never abuse, but people need to stop assuming
i, think they were all at Fault. WHAT kind of daughter raised_up to type those messages. The parents are in- serious trouble, also WHY Jduge marily keeps put the blame on the boy's Mother when its the Father who's the abuser, the actual Villain and Violence here when ALL the mother does is Victim!!!
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