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EXCLUSIVE: Utah school board member Natalie Cline speaks about fallout over social media post
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
- Utah State Board of Education member Natalie Cline has been publicly asked by several school and state officials to step down after a social media post that led to a high school student being targeted online.
She told 2News on Tuesday that she “owns” her social media post and is sorry for it but added that she's also a target.
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Apologies require taking accountability for your actions, not excusing your behaviors.
Almost all contemporary Republicans do not apologize for anything! Can anybody specifically point out any Republican who has submitted a heartfelt apology for an egregious mistake or even a criminal wrongdoing?
@@josephceratto4960 what about any democrat who is breaking the country's back? I hear zero apologies from that side.
" Florida Republican apologized Monday after he called transgender people “demons” and “mutants” during a hearing on a bill that would make it a misdemeanor offense for someone to use a bathroom that doesn’t align with the sex they were assigned at birth."
@@josephceratto4960 Did you ever see those videos from Hunter bidens laptop? Not only did he and his father (the president) gaslight people by lying, but he still hasn't addressed the cover up, lies, sons behaviour, etc .. but it's all out there for people to see..? That's another level of depravity
explaining is not excusing...until this video, the only story has come from the media and Cline's opponents. Their version of accountability seems to be complete destruction of Cline.
@@Famr4evr,
To whom was that apology directed, and in which venue? How was it worded?
It would be nice to see you please specifically support your "what about any democrat who is breaking the country's back?" statement with specific examples based on Facts & Figures.
It would be nice to see you employing the principles of rational discussion as a reasonable and prudent adult.
Please think about my honest critique (especially the Facts & Figures part) and you may become a more valued Forum Contributor! You do recognize the differences between facts and opinions don't you?
Bullshit. Your intention was not to have a conversation. You are an adult who should know better. You did this.
I wouldn't even the audacity to show my face. The boldness the gaul....
As a female yourself ......FAILURE TO PROTECT. YOU need not be around children. You knew what you were doing. If you didn't professionally, confer with other of the board members .....dummy
@@YvonneDeniseSmithFOXXY-cw4co THE CAUCASITY ... typical republican .
Hey lady do you really need to use profanity on a public channel here?
U know this kid? U have PROOF that he/she is a male or female, or do u just want CIVIL WAR in this country/for this country to fall to lucifur?...
As a transwoman, it's ironic to me that people who pay so much credence to "freedom" are only interested in their ability to freely worship as they believe or exclude whom they see fit. It's *their* freedom they're interested, not the equality and freedom of others. What I hear from her is that had this been a transgender minor, it would have been okay to bully her. May I use a line from your playbook? “ Leave our children alone.”
Recommend a mental health professional.
YOU NEVER POST A PICTURE IF A STUDENT WITHOUT THE PARENT’S PERMISSION!!!
This is educator 101. The fact that she either didn’t know this or didn’t think about it that way is enough for me to feel she needs to go.
This was a picture that was already in the public domain. Nothing wrong with that.
@@justinjamison4431 She did not need to repost the picture. She could have just asked the question, "What is our policy about who/what gender can play on a girls basketball team?" I would NEVER post a picture of one of my students.
That photo was previously posted by the school. Natalie simply reshared it with the title Girls Basketball. She didn’t say or imply anything else. Other people’s comments were what got out of hand and a lot was implied in those comments. When Natalie saw the comments, she removed the post.
@@justinjamison4431 absolutely hilarious to me theres ppl out there defending this just cause a republican did it. "Idk what the big deal is, causing children to require police escort so they dont die is perfectly fine." So unhinged.
Evident you never heard of first or 2nd amendment. Anything in public is public. Have you never watched the 1A auditors on RUclips?
This woman just doesn't get it and really doesn't want to.
Oh she gets it!
Nothing this woman can say can justify her actions. She is not a victim she is a perpetrator playing victim.
she made a mistake for which she apologized and owned. she is not playing the victim, but she is and has been a target of the the entrenched Utah power structure that she has continulously opposed
oh wow. who cares.
How about the little girls that get hurt, even seriously, trying to compete against males? "Screw them", huh?
yep that is story the news tried to convinc you of I guess. DO you actually believe them?
There is nothing this woman can say to fix this mess. What on earth did she think would happen?
She is disgusting
Her intention was to cause exactly what happened and she thought it would play better to the public.
Oh yeah it was DEFINITELY for attention from her fellow MAGAts! I need my fly spray!
Cline imagined herself as some kind of hero.
Yep,
@@dwp6471 she is.
@@topazblahblah for targeting a child? Lol. She's a coward who wanted to be a glorified witch finder. She's the same person who asked when she could take aim at lbgtquia. She made her choices and deserves no grace. It's not just a question- it's a death sentence.
As a father of 3 daughters and this is reprehensible. Her defense of the issue deflects and tries to absolve her of all wrong doing. She is clearly in the wrong and appears to be a wolf in sheep's clothes.
She's a transphobic bigot!!! Who has finally gotten caught...
She is stepping all over herself and side stepping the real answer. None of it should gone to or been on social media.
An adult in a position of authority bullying a minor student publicly? Such a nasty thing.
And did you hear she announced her bid for reelection yesterday? I really hope someone sets up a debate between her and a non-transgender 12 year old on their “not transgenderism” to really drive the point home 🙄
How did this HORRIBLE woman ever ever get elected to this position?? This is the most insincere apology I’ve ever heard. My heart breaks for that student that had to endure this
MAGAt Republicunts did this.
fake china trolll, we the people stand with natalie cline, not a child whose parents failed to teach her/him bible principes, which woud have prevented this.
Probably specifically because she is horrible. People don’t care about someone having the right policies anymore, it’s about hating and attacking the other side and also often stoking conspiracies.
@@iMatti00 Utah... nothing but a bunch of self-righteous Mormons and morons
You’re kidding right? Almost half of Americans are like this woman and Trump is proof
What a load of garbage she is peddling. She knew exactly what she was doing. She apparently doesn’t know the difference between a question mark and an apostrophe.
She’s twisting herself in knots to defend her reprehensible behavior.
I feel that her apology is sincere.
@@MichelleCreate324she's only sorry she's receiving pushback from the public
Thanks for your reply. She made a mistake for sure but she has done so much good that I can’t help but think that she’s being sincere. In this interview all I hear her say is her owning up to what she did.
@@MichelleCreate324I'd be far more interested to learn whether the children that she's publicly mocked and humiliated feel that her "apology" is sincere. They're her victims here.
Governor Cox made the same mistake. You all forgave him without him making a public apology. This woman is so brave to make a public apology. We all have made mistakes
Here is a good follow-up question that you’d never hear asked by a news station like KUTV that is anti-public education: “Okay, I can see where you’re coming from, Natalie, but can you also understand the other side of the argument here, that you took it upon yourself to question the gender and appearance of a child on your public social media feed in a time when there is already an epidemic of body image issues, depression, and suicides among young women, that is being perpetuated by social media?
This isn't a first for her, nor would it be a last. There are some things you can't teach a narcissist
Amen! And this isn't her first time!
I will say this for those who are thick headed.....if an adult targets or bullies a child.. the community must assemble to protect said child, then the adult must take them down legally by voting them out, forcing them to resign or having authorities look into bullying of a minor!!!!!!
She knew exactly what she was doing! This is a poor “excuse”. She knows exactly what she did.
She’s such a liar.
So putting a minor’s picture on social media was the thing that was going to give them “the answer”.
The comments by Utahns supporting her hate are just as disgusting.
She’s only sorry because she was called out. She isn’t sorry about what this poor family has been going through. That poor girl.
You certainly are sure of facts that you can't possibly know.
I see your post has been edited. Did you go back and delete evidence of your evil nature? Or just correct an error you made?
See, you're living proof that people can make mistakes online and wish to fix it.
@@thislittlepiggy9160 MY evil nature? Lol
I’m not the one defending the hatful acts of a bigot.
@@mimat1427 That's exactly what an evil person would say 😒
@mimat1427 Your immediate reply is to deny any evil intent and vilify me with more assumed intent. You continue to make my point. The rest of us here in cyberspace don't know what your true intent is. If you read what I said, I'm not calling you evil, rather pointing out that your self-editing is tacit admission of making a mistake and trying to fix it.
Many, like you, presume evil, but can't possibly know. So I asked, giving you the opportunity to clarify. A grace that you summarily deny both to me and to Ms. Cline.
@@annab13says the person who's pro threatening children
If you target someone that you perceive to be weaker than yourself, be prepared to become a target of the people who love that "weaker" person. And don't play the victim. You started it. But you may not finish it.
This woman handle the situation immature and unprofessional, she should get fired
Dont go on the news ever.
The father was told by the principal that she was a biological female. Period. End of conversation. Why was this woman involved?
We just need to have a public conversation about a specific child? A public conversation about a specific child’s gender/sex??? Come on that’s abuse.
No, she specifically said she was wanting to have a public discussion on policy regarding boys playing in girl's sports.
Not just emotionally abusive to the child, but creepy af and highly suspicious as well.
@@julieabehlingand targeting a specific child even if they were trans would be the appropriate way to approach that? If she’s being honest in this interview it demonstrates a serious lack of intelligence if this outcome wasn’t entirely predictable to her.
Where did she say the conversation was about this specific child? The post was about an issue that masculine looking girls will now face from here on out. One that they don't deserve. One that the trans lobby has forced upon them.
Ten years ago someone would see her photo and say, "Wow, that's a tough looking girl."
But now the libs have turned that into a betting game on whether they're a dude, or not.
That is the shame of it all.
@@julieabehlingthe policy holders would rather throw people like her to the wolves than address the root cause of these issues themselves. Another sacrifice of the virtue Mafia.
Because IT'S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!
She has no place on the school board for bigots.
She should have known better. I would NEVER in a million years put up a picture of an individual student asking questions about ANYTHING. How could she not have known that??
@davisholman8149 She was calculated and knew what she was doing for sure...she just didn't know what the outcome of it if would be. She kept pushing the envelope and now she needs to be held accountable.
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She is only a “bigot” on a false premise that it is bigoted to disagree with modern gender theory.
But, why? Why did you care to take this action to 'discuss' policy. Own your shit.
Because it's unfair to girls for boys to play in their sports, and she is standing up for girls.
The responsible thing to do on the part of an elected official would not be to publicly post a child’s picture online period. If the “policy” was a concern why not check the policy? What is the policy? Knowing how children are bullied online (or should have known) why do it? It was mean spirited and meant to cause a “firestorm”. If the child had been trans would she still feel “terrible” or would she feel justified? She only wants to protect children that she deems worthy of protection. She’s a horrible human being.
Why are you taking photos and posting photos of a kid online? I get you want answers to what's going on but this went too far the wrong way.
That photo was taken and posted by the high school. Natalie reshared it with the title Girls Basketball. She didn’t say or imply anything else. Other people’s comments about the photo became judgmental. When Natalie saw the comments, she removed the post.
@@sdpianomom Gaslighting at its finest. @NatalieCline ...IF your "goal" was to have a "policy discussion" than you would've posted the POLICY stating: LETS HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE POLICY. However what you chose to do was to make it about the players....aka A SPECIFIC CHILD!!!! She has blamed everyone except the one responsible for this 'firestorm' - YOU Ms. Cline. YOU were the one that was out of line, out of order and beyond inappropriate!!! It's clear you thought you would've had support rather than kickback. NO remorse for her choices at all!!! Blame. Blame. And blame some more. NOT someone who should be over any amount of edu. for any aged child.
Transphobia and bigotry begins. They are kids that father had no business asking that question.
Shame on this woman!
Omg this woman. She posted a photo of someone else’s child! Along with a negative comment! Whether the child was masculine or transgender it would be completely inappropriate!! Shame shame shame on you! And here she still mentions over and over that she “couldn’t tell” whether it was a boy for a girl. Nothing like bullying a child about their appearance and then doing it over and over again in this interview! This was cyber bullying by an adult! She should have been fired. She still should be fired!
What was the comment? It said girls basketball team. Let's deal in facts, not the disinformation that is being peddling around the clock. She admitted she shouldn't have done the post but let's get our facts straight before piling on with accusations.
@@gefil8781 : It's a justified accusation. She did this intentionally to get the support of people like you. Your comment simply reveals that you're one of those Trump supporters. Am I right? You're willing to defend any action as long as it was an attempt to target one of your favorite targets.
@@gefil8781
Context is important.
Those with selectively short attention spans or those truly "challenged" by reading difficulties will not see the "big picture" just like you are demonstrating.
Those with social adjustment deficits or disorders will not see the discourtesies or rudeness in any given situation.
@@gefil8781 are you intentionally dense or have you ever floated?
The commentary that continues to victimize the little girl in question is how she keeps says stuff like "I couldn't tell if it was a boy or girl"
There's 2 insults in there.
1 - it
2 - couldn't tell if boy or girl.
Number 1 should be self explanatory. People aren't "it, further she is aware of the gender of the person she speaks about.
2- all this girl even did was have short hair. And again she is very aware now that she's a girl.
JFC
Are we sure this is a biological woman? I see the hint of an Adam's Apple there.
Who gave her the right to use the photo of the girl in the first place?
No one! Narcissists don't need permissions
Uhhhh it was a public school post she shared
It was a photo posted by the high school. Natalie reshared the photo which is not against Facebook guidelines. Why did the school share the photo?
Many folks inappropriately use Social Media comments and images, often "taken out of context."
Social Media posts celebrating innocent fun or noteworthy events are used in nefarious ways by dishonorable people frequently.
Reasonable, prudent self-respecting, socially adjusted persons having integrity refrain from violating Social norms of respect and courtesy for others.
Some kids never grow up.
Reference: "Peter Pan Syndrome", "I Feel Like a Child Syndrome", "Borderline Personality Disorder", Childhood Victims Later Victimize"
The father was told it was a girl. End of discussion. You want to have a policy discussion? Okay, then don't post a picture of a student and discuss policy.
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She needs to resign.
Amen
This is one of the worst apologies I’ve ever heard! She is 1) justifying and excusing her behavior, 2) Revictimizing the teen, her father, and thinking human beings by saying things could have been handled between them (a little late for that!!), 3) acting like policy decisions are in the public purview (a gross mischaracterization of the process and minimization of her responsibility), 4) failing to take responsibility for her actions which includes the expected and unexpected consequences of her actions, 5) failing to recognize the lived realities and experiences of others, a behavior highly associated with narcissistic personality disorder. Her statement represents these things AT A MINIMUM.
But….but…she’s a victim 😂 her and Trump both victims 🙄
“How dare politicians pick sides politically against me, it’s election interference!”- Cline 2024 🤣😂
Maybe it not anyone’s business…
Utah has a serious Karen problem!
He should have asked, “If the student had been trans, wouldn’t you still have an obligation to protect them?…By, for example, not publicly posting their photo and using them as a f’ing pawn?”
…If they live their life in a way that doesn’t align with your personal views, do they no longer deserve your protection?
As the mother and aunt of trans women, I call her “excuse” BULLSH*T!! How dare she. She knows damn well what she was doing when she posted that picture. What a liar.
There is no such thing as "Trans women" - this is delusion.
@@topazblahblah - That’s your opinion and that and $2 might get you a cup of coffee somewhere.
This is about a biological girl. The trans movement is why this happens to her. Because girls can't just be masculine anymore.
Just resign! Stop trying to walk it back liar
People who do things like this and call themselves Christian…is that what Jesus would do?? No. They are judging and bullying a CHILD. How sad
Yes, they are christians. The idea that christians are somehow tolerant, loving, honest, it's all complete BS. 2/3rds of sex crimes are committed by clergy. Its a nasty, dangerous cult that has been accepted as "normal" in this country, and it's tearing our country apart
Did you catch her blaming the victim saying if only the dad would've replied and accepted my "apology" this wouldn't have gotten so out of hand. She is a mess. The lack of accountability is awful and it still seems to be all about her.😡
So this is all about your religious politics. You need to own what you did and what you are and resign. I don't think you are sorry for your actions but offended because people are telling you how evil your actions are.
This is not an apology.
Huh. “What it has turned into is far more than it should have done”. Maybe because you unleashed abuse on a perfectly innocent teenager. How dare you use her and her life to further your bigotry. You should leave public service and be sued.
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And it isn't her first time.
Natalie Cline admitted at the beginning of the interview that the father who was concerned was told the student in question was a girl. Obviously, he didn't believe it nor did Cline. Her intention was to have a "policy discussion" but she posted an unaltered image of students at the school with the clear intention of calling this particular student out. Had the student been trans, would they have been undeserving of protection? Cline could have taken any number of different steps to address her concerns prior to posting on social media. She could have determined the gender of the student without creating this drama. This situation is exactly why speculating about who may or may not be trans is unhelpful. There have always been tomboys and it's no surprise to find one playing sports. If so many people could be wrong about this one student based on appearance, then how can they trust their concerns overall are valid and not masked bias? How could Cline be so unsavvy about social media and so unaware of what would happen with her seemingly neutral caption given the political climate. Cline admits that the student is a victim, but she's not taking responsibility for the fact that she's the one who victimized this student with her actions. She doesn't get a free pass because she says says she didn't mean any harm. She did harm regardless of what she intended, and her apology doesn't go far enough into the responsibilities of accountability. She doesn't get to claim victim status because this situation she created collapsed around her feet. At the very least she had demonstrated a lack of judgement that, rightfully so, people should question her effectiveness in her current position. Lastly, trans students are also students who need to be protected. She could start by referring to them as trans girls rather than boys. This doesn't negate her position but it lies at the heart of this situation and how she wound up in hot water. When she thought the student in question was a "boy", she lacked empathy and objectified the situation (and student) to start a conversation. She didn't see a human. She saw an ideological threat. Turns out her eyes deceived her. Turns out the threat was led by her charge. If this interview is any indication, her heart has deceived her as well. The community deserves someone who can lead with compassion and empathy in spite of concerns. Had her heart been on protecting students in general, she likely would have made wiser choices, starting with not posting images of any student to be held up for derision, ridicule and mockery for being who they are. Again, there are so many other choices she could have made to have the conversation she clearly feels is necessary and even to answer the gender question that lies at the heart of this particular situation.
Lastly, personally I'm not a fan of cancel culture. We shouldn't silence people just because they cause a stir. However, it's her responsibility to navigate the turbulence that she has created. She has lost the faith of her party and her colleagues due to her choices. Is this the proverbial straw breaking the camel's back? It's not that she's outspoken, it's how she chose to speak out, at least in this situation. I really wish that she had taken the time to really think through her approach in this interview. It's unwise to try and spin this as a political conspiracy against her personally when her actions demonstrate such a clear lack of judgement. She did great harm in her efforts at "transparency." This interview does not, at least to my mind, inspire any healing. Is there no one in this situation that can help provide much needed empathy, support, compassion and accountability? As the student's father said elsewhere, students sometimes commit suicide in situations like this. There's a lot more at stake here than Natalie Cline's career and it's not clear to me that she actually gets that. Very disappointed in this interview.
Her apology was taken as insincere because that what it was no matter how hard she called it cancel culture. Trying to claim you know because you’re a parent is gross. Go ahead yell out on the site formally known as twitter but she needs to resign. Being fired for a valid reason isn’t cancel culture.
Down with cline 🧌 🔥
And very well said.👏👏👏👏👏
Right here is why misinformation is so dangerous and running without fact checking! The internet is dangerous for this very reason when one misinformed person types and send a post that will reach millions of people and can cause real harm to a innocent young person! She’s a grown woman and a mom and she should know better.
I couldn’t agree more!
Well said
Come on from the beginning before the making of the comparison pic she knew the concerned father was told the girl was a biological female. The father wasn’t told he identifies as a boy, wasn’t told you can’t ask that it doesn’t matter, he was told she was biologically a female! She didn’t think um I might want to dig a bit.
Parents need to sue her.
Instead bullying a child, a decent human being would have asked that father why he spends so much time thinking about the genitals of children
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What in the hell are you talking about? His _daughter_ was publicly humiliated, and used for political reasons. No doubt, you're of that same type of political leanings, as you're now slyly accusing the father of something terrible. The girl is his daughter, and he's not focusing on her genitals. He's focusing on this woman's attack on his daughter.
I can tell, from your comment, that you're a Trump supporter. Stupid, dull-witted, fanatical.
@@elizabethroberts6169 : Don't be an idiot.
You made a poor decision here. And these are the consequences. Accept it 😮
You cannot excuse your behavior by pointing out others. Own your behavior and try, try , try to gain a modicum of integrity. Again with protecting the children…..apparently not the girl she held up to public shaming. Listen to yourself. You are not the victim. You caused the victimization. You are now getting repercussions. That’s how it works.
She did not post names. The post she reposted was from the school’s instagram page. Please educate yourself. The post was already public. When my children start school one of the things yu ether agree r disagree to s if yur children could be posted on social media. And if they can have pictures taken if answer yes answer yes to that question then your children can be posted on social media and no laws are broken. Maybe think about that. How do yu answer that question ?
@@jewkega Gaslighting at its finest. @NatalieCline ...IF your "goal" was to have a "policy discussion" than you would've posted the POLICY stating: LETS HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE POLICY. However what you chose to do was to make it about the players....aka A SPECIFIC CHILD!!!! She has blamed everyone except the one responsible for this 'firestorm' - YOU Ms. Cline. YOU were the one that was out of line, out of order and beyond inappropriate!!! It's clear you thought you would've had support rather than kickback. NO remorse for her choices at all!!! Blame. Blame. And blame some more. NOT someone who should be over any amount of edu. for any aged child.
@@jewkega
You (and many others herein) seem to be missing the context. You seem to be overlooking the principles of courtesy.
I am going to hazard a guess that you (and many others) will miss the critique(s) in my comment.
How embarassing for her posting that without even knowing what she was talking about. Shame on her for the damage she did to that girl, how is someone like this working on the school board?
She got to stop watching Joe Rogan and foxnews.
16:22 Accountability can feel like a punishment to those who’ve never been held to account.
"In our society we can't even ask a question. We can't have a conversation." Yeah I don't know about anyone else but I'm actually okay with asking about children's genitals being socially unacceptable.
It should be unacceptable. Concern about children’s genitals is absolutely pedophilic. 1 in 4 children are sexually abused.
worse part? they questioned about the girl's gender and the father (who brought this to her attention) was told that the player was a biological girl (she even states that at the begining).
so the real truth is that both her and the father didn't believe the girl was a biological girl. they asked the questions and got the answers, they just didn't accept the answers given to them..
She publicly embarrassed a female child. That is the problem
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Do.not.bully.kids. There is no excuse for posting kids without parents permission. You are in the wrong and should be removed from office.
So, she's justifying her bigoted, bullying post by claiming she was following up on a complaint by what sounds like a bullying, bigoted parent. Deflection and denial. Let's have the name of that parent as well, so we can ask him or her what caused them to target this teenage girl, thinking she was actually a male. The saddest aspect of this incident is that she DOES represent quite a few people with similar beliefs. These "loving" adults are united by one thing above all else: they all hate the same people. The female student in this case was just collateral damage in their War on Woke.
I love how the LDS magazine is *subtly* and conveniently placed on the nightstand for all to see 😇
She has never made a secret of being LDS.
@@gefil8781 right, she wanted people to see it. It’s like someone wearing a big cross necklace when they go to court
What's wrong with that? @@porkyrabbit
@@LisaPFramptonShe’s two faced, her behaviour is far from Christian actions as she continues to defend herself instead of simply apologizing flat out and she is the one whose actions are “unconscionable”!!!!
Consistent in bigotry is not a good thing
It's clear that Cline did not think this through BEFORE she posted ..... like so many others BEFORE her. LOL 😂
And she's done this before as well. But apparently didn't learn anything
I bet a Billion dollars, no Man walked up to her to complain that women look "masculine"
I wouldn’t bet against you on that!
Exactly. It’s just like another certain hateful person who often starts his lies with “Many people are saying…”
I don't know about that. All these religious freaks seem to spend all day thinking about what is in a kids pants
Um, it actually happened.
@@LisaPFrampton where you there
Just resign already.
Sitting next to what looks like a Liahona magazine. She attacked a child. Not very Christ like.
She’s setting such a Christ like example and leading the way.
I’m wondering if she has made an apology face to face to the girl and her family.
They don’t want to engage with her. If you watch this video, you’ll see why. It’s a piss poor apology. Overall, she sees herself as the victim of this essentially being blown out of proportion and especially a victim of the GOP, who are now withdrawing support for her reelection.
So you, Cline, thought it would be a good idea to bully the student online? Policy issues are always about people. You don't seem to have the discernment to be in public office or direct policy discussions.
Be concerned. But investigate quietly. Stop acting like a teenager ad posting on social media.
Just resign!
“We can’t have a real conversation about how this is affecting us.” How a girl who YOU make assumptions about is on a girls basketball team, so you decide to openly call her out and open up the flood gates for her to be bullied?? You are evil! Pure evil. This makes me so mad! As a mom, I would sue you for hurting my daughter like this.
We can’t have real conversations because they’re not IN reality!!
She is mad because everyone isn’t telling her she is correct. Vile behavior ☣️
She should be condemned in the public realm. This is not so much different than what she tried to do with the child.
Utah? I'm shocked!
You took weeks to prepare your story, what did you expect to happen when you posted it. Did you pull the post immediately? It's really hard to feel bad for her after this much time. Just step down. You are not helping.
Shame on you for the damage you did…YOU DID.. TO A 16 YEAR OLD GIRL….SHAME ON YOU YOU BIGOTED BULLY
Bigot Dad asks "Is that a boy?" response is "You can't ask that question! You're a bigot!, How dare you?!?" and the last part "That's a biological girl!". As far as I'm concerned, that last part answered his question and should've been the end of it. But they all decided to let their inner bigot shine through and...here we are. 🤡
So she proved that she has terrible judgement.
This woman is so vile and has been causing issues since she was elected.
What has she done if you don't mind me asking? I don't follow much of politics in utah
@user-ce4lx2co6t multiple times she has bullied different schools and teachers by posting things online instead of handling it privately
No she exposes the gross truth of what’s going on in schools and she’s the only one with the courage to do it.
@@truthseeker2731except in this case she posted a CHILD online and created the spectacle and negative attention it drew towards the girl (which is what SHE said happened)
@@user-ce4lx2co6t Exposing predators. Certain people don't like that
As a member of the State Board of Education, she couldn't have just called up the school directly to bring those parents' "concerns" up privately? Right. What a load of garbage. She keeps saying she didn't KNOW whether this student was a biological girl or a trans student, but that's exactly the point. Setting aside how obviously wrong it would be for her to bring this bullying down on ANY student (which she also doesn't seem to get), she obviously could have and *should* have gotten more information first. Instead, she thoughtlessly posted in a way that she should have known would bring down bullying on an innocent kid.
She sounds like she is sorry because she is (rightly) being censured for this, not because of actually causing damage to a teenager. If she didn't think about the possible backlash her post wouldn't of cause, then she shouldn't hold such a public position.
I just heard deflecting and poor-me word salad fin this interview. Worse off her Facebook echo chamber is doubling down and saying what She did was "fighting the good fight" How? By getting an innocent high school girl harassed by spreading misinformation? She's just sorry now She's being held accountable, She STILL doesn't see what She did was wrong. Crocodile tears from the Bigot.
Right. And what kinda spineless nonsense is complaining about politicians taking sides and calling it election interference? What?😂🤣
How was it bigotry?
She got an innocent high schooler bullied by posting a statement implying She was actually Trans. I know people are doing flips to defend her logic and claim "She didny NOTHING wrong" but She's only sorry for the backlash; not for the lasting damage She caused to that student and the family. @@annab13
Nobody mentioned Election interference in this post you donut. Why don't you go complain on another video that's in more context? 🤡 @@genericamerican7574 🤡
Did she say politicians are not allowed to be political and pick sides or its election interference?😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
🙀Litter boxes in every classroom 😼
Your Apology! Who do you think you are and what gives you the right to post another child’s picture! How are you that clueless? as far as the man concerned about his child on the team he Must be a bigot as well! These are children, even the way she states: “because of the laws that are past their are cases where males can be on the team.” It’s sickening! How is This child 😢 feeling right now because of what this so-called adult did to her! Trying to weasel her way out of a bigoted intentions now just don’t wash
You spelled “I’m so sorry. I am guilty. I’ll resign” incorrectly.
What is really sad is that if that had been a trans student just how many think her actions would have been ok. Imagine the anguish that cis child suffered then think how much worse it would be for the trans child. How her comments would fuel a massive hate campaign on that child,the school and her parents. This is real transphobia hate and it has far reaching consequences for many. Ignorance of the transgender position is no excuse. This is just plain bully behaviour from someone who should know better.there is a you tuber Cathy Baldock who openly states that she was just like this woman and got to know a transgender and thru many months of adjustments had to apologise to her for her appalling behaviour. So there is hope.
Girls sports are for girls 👧
BULL 💩💩💩💩 she can’t defend her actions really you are actually saying that if he would have called you thing’s could have been covered up and maybe less people would know what you did you’re putting that on her father ⁉️⁉️ You created this situation you made it blow up by your insensitive post for everyone to see and make terrible comments about her IT’S ON YOU ALONE DO BETTER NEXT TIME GET THE FACT’S BEFORE YOU PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ‼️‼️‼️
how long did it take her to come up with this story??
Natalie Cline should NOT be on the school board! Period.
A POLICY duscission... FOR WHAT, no policies were broken by the student but BY YOU ...
Objectively neutral?!??!?!?! Is she high???!
How would this being feel if her kids were to face the same cyber bullying?
Talking about an issue isn't bullying. What is the alternative route you would have taken? Explain how to deal with this problem?
They get so riled up, they can't WAIT to beable to blow the top. The news has them petrified. Almost no body is trans..chill
If nobody is transgender, then why are people making such a huge deal of it?
I don't see legislators going out of their way to stop people with six toes from teaching.
@@kenenglish124 There doesn't have to be a threat before people can take credit for defeating it.
The intent was never about the girl the intent was to push her transphobia on others. Imagine if that was a trans child and the hurt she may have suffered.to pretend that is about the children is just so lame. Ask the other girls what they think.
Amen! This isn't a first nor will it be her last at this
" Utah anti-bullying laws require districts to include training regarding bullying, cyber-bullying, hazing, abusive conduct, and retaliation in school employee training. " I guess Natalie Cline did not receive this training!
Children should never have there pictures posted on social media. This person should have been immediately fired period.
The high school posted the photo. Natalie reshared the photo.
It was never about the girl? You posted her picture. The nerve
I never once heard her say "I am sorry"
Poor Natalie Cline. She's just so picked on. 😂
"I honestly didn’t know" didn’t she says that the father told HER that he was told that it was a biological girl?
"I am completely sorry for the negative direction that it took, I am deeply sorry". But she's not sorry for the passive aggressive accusation.
… and she again referred to the girl as "it". No wonder the parents didn’t want to meet with her phony azz.
Make no mistake, her bigotry does not simply end with trans individuals. Different race, immigration status legal or not, faiths other than Christianity nothing is out of the realm of possibility of people she would hate.
Becoming the biggest bigot in Utah is one hell of an achievement, but Natalie was able to pull it off.
Is this that Jenner person!?🤔
Yikes. She made herself look even worse. I think she got her apology strategy from canceled RUclipsrs. Clean white background, soft clothing, acknowledging people are upset, justifying actions, blaming people for being mad.
What is the protocol she should have taken to address this issue?
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Bruce Jenner! I knew that was you 😅
This is reprehensible. There is no excuse.
Don't know this woman or her past. BUT She's not wrong when she says "we're not allowed to even have a discussion on the issue". She's 100% correct. Now when she brings in a specific child as the focus of her discussion, that's 100% NOT OK. That's putting the focus on one person, a child, and as a mother and grandmother she should 100% know better. There are SOOO many issues related to trans and we need to discuss them. Some of the issues involve trans people competing in sports but that's not all. WE as a society are WORSE OFF when we silence discussion by silencing them, canceling them and otherwise shutting them down. A PERSON is 100% NOT A BIGOT by simply asking questions or having difficult discussions. The lack of tolerance in this country to have difficult conversations has to stop. This country was founded on freedom of speech and being able to discuss difficult topics without fear of repercussions. If you don't agree with that, you need to go study the constitution and the pre-history of the USA as well as world history. TYRANTS SHUT DOWN DISCUSSIONS THEY DON'T LIKE. TYRANTS ARE 100% NOT IN LINE WITH AMERICAN VALUES AND PRINCIPLES!
There’s no room for “but” in this situation. None, nada, zero, zilch.
Having discussions on this issue is exactly what her opponents don't want to happen, hence she is being shut down. The mistake she made in posting this photo is the excuse that is being used to stop her, not the real reason. The bill that allows males to use females spaces, such as locker rooms and restrooms, is just one example of things she has opposed.
having discussions on these issues is exactly what they want to stop. Her mistake is an excuse for them to go after her once again. One of the things that she has opposed is allowing males into female spaces, such as locker rooms and restrooms, which some describe as descriminatory. She definitely made a mistake, for which she apologized. But, to stop the work she is doing to protect Utah's children because of it is mob mentality. But, the mob seems to reign in Utah now.
@@gefil8781 I’m sure you were reveling from WITHIN in the mob mentality of the trans bathroom bill a week ago. Sucks to be on the other side, doesn’t it? THIS situation is exactly what happens when a conversation is bypassed and someone (Kline) goes for the jugular instead. She lit the match and got burned. Now she needs to have the grace to stop making this about her and resign. Her political career is over.