I like the detail where whenever anyone else uses "The Voice", an echo of a reverend mother's voice is audible, but when Paul said "SILENCE" it was all him.
Fun fact: this is because Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach. His Bene Gesserit training (female) allowed him to access his FEMALE genetic memories through his X chromosome, something all Bene Gesserit can do, and why there's a female undertone to his use of the Voice early on. However, accessing male memories is forbidden in the sisterhood because male memories are known to be "predatory" and can imprint on a vulnerable person, especially a woman, who is unable to control them. (Spoilers: this happens to a very prominent female character later in the series.) The Kwisatz Haderach is the prophesied male heir who can do what no Bene Gesserit has ever done: successfully access all female AND male genetic memories through the X and Y chromosomes. When Paul drinks the Water of Life and masters all of his genetic memories, "bridging space and time", he has full access to the past and a full understanding of many possible futures all at once. When he silences the Reverend Mother, those are his MALE genetic memories speaking through him (including Leto, who was murdered because of the Bene Gesserit and the Harkonnens.)
I waited so long before finally watching them so I haven't had the chance, I'm hoping our witchy cult mother Lady Jessica still has a strong presence in the third film, I want the whole theater experience with the Voice
note how Paul's "the voice" is entirely masculine at that point while the earlier ones you can hear that his voice is overlaid with an older female voice to tie it to the bene gesserit. His voice being entirely masculine tells me he's completely the Kwisatz Haderach, not just female ancestral memory like the bene gesserit but male ancestral too.
There are a few missed. The one is when Jessica orders one Fedain to find others who came from the north shortly after Paul drunk the Water of Life. Another is earlier when she orders the worm keeper to give water of life to Paul. Yet another - which I am not sure - is when Reverand Mother orders spider-human creature to go away.
There's also a subtle use of The Voice that I haven't seen anybody mention. When Paul says "I'M POINITNG THE WAY" in the War Council, there's a partial Voice being used in that sentence to command all in the room to pay attention.
There was also the scene with Lady Margot Fenring when she used the Voice on Feyd Reutha on Geidi Prime, to secure the bloodline. Her use of Voice was the most subtle of all in the movie.
That was a great scene. At the theater, anyways. Between that scene and the Lisan al Gaib scene, I felt some things I’d never felt while watching a movie.
When Paul does that to the Reverend Mother it's showing his mastery and sheer power over the voice. When Paul says "Silence" you can hear his voice louder over the rest and rather than layers, it has more of a boom effect to it. Paul has absolute control at this point as the Kwisatz Haderach
@@superfnliminal I kind of new that was why, I just didn’t want to say it because I haven’t read the books. Thank for reaffirming that. Paul is a fucking badass.
I really like the first use of it by Paul. At first it seems like the pause is for dramatic effect, but he's focusing and studying every aspect of his mother's tone and emotional state to tune his voice to command her. Also brilliant to show the attributes around the room belonging to Paul's grandfather since much of their characters and stories result from his actions, showing how using the Voice involves knowing yourself and the one you're using it on
I remember I was high when I rewatched Part Two, and the use of The Voice was by far the scariest thing. The concept of someone losing total control seems so unnatural and evil.
Thank you for this! But also, since everyone is pointing out what you missed 🤣 Lady Margot Fenring uses the Voice when she tells Feyd Rautha that he wont be attending his own celebrations 🤣
Did anyone else notice that at first, when Paul uses the voice, the background voice sounds like the Reverend Mother? But when he uses his voice in the last clip, when he blows her back with how powerful his voice is, the background voice is Paul's voice, as if he's overpowering her. I think that's pretty cool. I didn't notice that until now.
Now that I think about it. When they use the voice, it always sounds distorted and with another voice behind it. Like when Paul uses the voice on his mom it sounds like the Reverend Mother. I havent read the books and I dont know if it is this way, but does the voice makes it so the person being influenced hears a person they concider an autorithy speak to them? If so its interesting that at the end, when Paul uses the voice on her by silencing her, we only hear his voice and no other behind it.
In the book the Voice is different non only by different users, but also when it's used on different people by the same user. By the way it is described the "sound" of the voice depends by the users, by the target, by the situation, the place even the feelings of both. As it's described one of the first time in the book by Jessika before using it she has to "decode" her target for it to work, then (in the occasion I'm talking about) the tone of Jessica's order is described as a "Lament" or a "Wail" (sorry I don't know which is the exact word in English since I read the books in Italian so I translated by the meaning). Anyway every time the voice is used it is stated either by the narrator by a character (usually Lady Jessika or a Reverend mother) or by the different Font used in text. So one can say that it's not a real "power" per se, but more a a very deep knowledge of everything is happening in that exact situation, the grant the users the possibility to give an order with the Voice. And the target executes the order even before realizing that he was given one. All in all I think it was a good choice to make it sound like that in the movies so it's easier to understand to the audience that did not read the books. On a side note also Paul's speech to Fremen in the book is given using the Voice (and only Paul as far as I remember is capable of using the Voice on more than one person at a time), that's why at least to me Timothee's voice sound so distorted or raspy when he gives his last speech to firemen before the final attack.
The film has it include 'the voices of their ancestors'. As a male Paul's is the only voice that appears to have male voices in the mix (the reason why the Kwisatz Haderach needs to be male, because the women only have access to their female ancestors).
You’re missing Margot Fenring’s use of Voice. (I think it’s the best use in either movie, too :) ) It’s subtle and very different from the more aggressive versions used elsewhere. But when she speaks to Feyd-not everything she says, just some things-it carries the reverb and over/undertones that the movies very clearly use to signify the Voice.
What about the “IM POINTING THE WAY” when he yells at Stilgar cause he doesn’t want to kill him before his big Muad’Dib speech. Wasn’t sure but going back and watching it now the way Stilgars face dropped makes it seem like that had an effect on him. I feel others would have been annoyed or threatened and would have reacted with anger, but the way Stilgars face just dropped makes it seem like almost immediate obedience instead
Fun fact: the change in Paul's Voice is because Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach. His Bene Gesserit training (female) allowed him to access his FEMALE genetic memories through his X chromosome, something all Bene Gesserit can do, and why there's a female undertone to his use of the Voice early on. However, accessing male memories is forbidden in the sisterhood because male memories are known to be "predatory" and can imprint on a vulnerable person, especially a woman, who is unable to control them. (Spoilers: this happens to a very prominent female character later in the series.) The Kwisatz Haderach is the prophesied male heir who can do what no Bene Gesserit has ever done: successfully access all female AND male genetic memories through the X and Y chromosomes. When Paul drinks the Water of Life and masters all of his genetic memories, "bridging space and time", he has full access to the past and a full understanding of many possible futures all at once. When he silences the Reverend Mother, those are his MALE genetic memories speaking through him (including Leto, who was murdered because of the Bene Gesserit and the Harkonnens.)
I guess "SILENCE!!!" didn't have the desired effect. She said "Abomination.", right away. If you use the Voice in a language they don't know, does it still work? SILENCIO!!! Say what?
Find it funny that the Reverend Mother Mohiam calls him abomination. While in fact she and her distorted religion is what created Paul in the first place. Goes to show no matter how hard you try, you can never control the power you created. It never goes the way your slithering and scheming mind planned it.
It was a misused line meant to address Alia (Paul’s preborn sister), not sure why it was kept in the movie since Alia’s birth is postponed until the sequel. Paul is not an abomination by definition, but the Bene Gessirit may still view him with the same disdain as one because he is a power out of their control
@@shamhoshino no, abomination has a literal term in the Dune franchise. The Bene Gessirit WANTED to create a male who wields their power because he can access the half of the ancestral memories and prescience that the female Bene Gessirit can not, that is not an abomination, the only problem is Paul spiraled out of their control. An abomination is one whose ancestral memories take control of their mind, an ancestor “possesses” them in a way, they lose their sense of self and are taken over by a (usually)malevolent ancestral ego. Preborns almost always become abominations, and Paul’s sister is a preborn, that line was meant for her. I guess it can be chalked up that the reverend mother was just using the term as an insult towards Paul, because he is not actually an abomination
"Mom I just woke up"
This is a line every single person in the history of our species has likely said at least once.
He went from "Mom i just woke up", "Not in the mood today." too *LONG LIVE THE FIGTHERS!!*
Uh… not to be a Debbie downer, but I didn’t.
i dont cus im dutch
@@crysis_pyscho9386 And after that,
"Lead them to paradise..."
Which sounds exactly like something a teenager would say
I like the detail where whenever anyone else uses "The Voice", an echo of a reverend mother's voice is audible, but when Paul said "SILENCE" it was all him.
came here to say that I just noticed that! Only in Pt 2 after he's mastered it, you cant here a reverend mother in it anymore
Yup I can elaborate more
Wanna test me nerd
Fun fact: this is because Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach. His Bene Gesserit training (female) allowed him to access his FEMALE genetic memories through his X chromosome, something all Bene Gesserit can do, and why there's a female undertone to his use of the Voice early on. However, accessing male memories is forbidden in the sisterhood because male memories are known to be "predatory" and can imprint on a vulnerable person, especially a woman, who is unable to control them. (Spoilers: this happens to a very prominent female character later in the series.)
The Kwisatz Haderach is the prophesied male heir who can do what no Bene Gesserit has ever done: successfully access all female AND male genetic memories through the X and Y chromosomes.
When Paul drinks the Water of Life and masters all of his genetic memories, "bridging space and time", he has full access to the past and a full understanding of many possible futures all at once.
When he silences the Reverend Mother, those are his MALE genetic memories speaking through him (including Leto, who was murdered because of the Bene Gesserit and the Harkonnens.)
Omg that’s so true 😭😭
The videos doesn't do justice to how the voice felt in theatres.
Thanks, captain Obvious
@@insulatedworld Don't be mean to others >:(
@@insulatedworld Thanks Mr. Useless commenter
I waited so long before finally watching them so I haven't had the chance, I'm hoping our witchy cult mother Lady Jessica still has a strong presence in the third film, I want the whole theater experience with the Voice
@@akashr2856ok but he’s right the theater is obviously loud
"SILENCE" The emotions that he said with it is soo perfect.
when you hire actors for talent not inclusivity
The psychic way of saying STFU
@@mimuluvu.2359look what happened to star wars. It does happen.
@@mimuluvu.2359 uh...yeah it happens.
@@mimuluvu.2359 you say that as if that's a thing that doesn't happen ...
The scene where he tells the reverend mother to shut up in front of everyone is my fav lmao
abomination!
Same. 😆
I suppose that's everyone's fav
she still whispers though
note how Paul's "the voice" is entirely masculine at that point while the earlier ones you can hear that his voice is overlaid with an older female voice to tie it to the bene gesserit. His voice being entirely masculine tells me he's completely the Kwisatz Haderach, not just female ancestral memory like the bene gesserit but male ancestral too.
All the voice scenes in Part 2 by Jessica were a literal jumpscare
all? you mean 1 scene?
All the scenes with Jessica after drinking the Water of Life were jumpscares 😂
“Your pitch was too forced” moms never let a learning experience pass by 😂
There are a few missed. The one is when Jessica orders one Fedain to find others who came from the north shortly after Paul drunk the Water of Life. Another is earlier when she orders the worm keeper to give water of life to Paul. Yet another - which I am not sure - is when Reverand Mother orders spider-human creature to go away.
Good catch on the spider thing!
Which spider thing ?
@@LordPaul-X In Dune 1 when Reverand Mother visits baron Harkonnen.
G E T O U T…. It understands
There's also a subtle use of The Voice that I haven't seen anybody mention. When Paul says "I'M POINITNG THE WAY" in the War Council, there's a partial Voice being used in that sentence to command all in the room to pay attention.
This is not all, remember Jessica said "LET HIM TRY" with the Voice when talking to the lady who harvest the water of life from the worm?
She says it again to an order to a guard when she first arrives I'm the south. Something along the lines of "find him"
@@JordansTake35 oh right, I remember that now
SILENCE said Paul calmly
As written...
as foretold
There was also the scene with Lady Margot Fenring when she used the Voice on Feyd Reutha on Geidi Prime, to secure the bloodline. Her use of Voice was the most subtle of all in the movie.
Underrated comment lol I was hoping others would point this out
Best scene in the move IMO
That was a great scene. At the theater, anyways. Between that scene and the Lisan al Gaib scene, I felt some things I’d never felt while watching a movie.
come to me
It seems that all of the voice scenes used layering of multiple voices, except Paul silencing the Reverend Mother. I wonder if that means anything.
He is the Kwisatz Haderach perfectly bridging all past generations and syncing the Voice, maybe
When Paul does that to the Reverend Mother it's showing his mastery and sheer power over the voice. When Paul says "Silence" you can hear his voice louder over the rest and rather than layers, it has more of a boom effect to it. Paul has absolute control at this point as the Kwisatz Haderach
@@superfnliminal I kind of new that was why, I just didn’t want to say it because I haven’t read the books. Thank for reaffirming that. Paul is a fucking badass.
@@cringelord7776 literally what Frank Herbert (the author of Dune) *didn't* want you to think
@@cringelord7776 he's not a fucking badass lol but your heart is in the right place
I really like the first use of it by Paul. At first it seems like the pause is for dramatic effect, but he's focusing and studying every aspect of his mother's tone and emotional state to tune his voice to command her. Also brilliant to show the attributes around the room belonging to Paul's grandfather since much of their characters and stories result from his actions, showing how using the Voice involves knowing yourself and the one you're using it on
you missed "All of us"
Also when Jessica tells the worm keeper to "let him try"
i just noticed i uploaded the older edit, i had them in latest edit >.
@@aggressivefennec also missed "Find them"
Lady Fenrig also used the voice on Balenciaga man
Also when he says "suck it"
I remember I was high when I rewatched Part Two, and the use of The Voice was by far the scariest thing. The concept of someone losing total control seems so unnatural and evil.
Thank you for this! But also, since everyone is pointing out what you missed 🤣 Lady Margot Fenring uses the Voice when she tells Feyd Rautha that he wont be attending his own celebrations 🤣
Yes, she's using the voice when she says "come to me" in a raspy sexy voice. The voice is supposed to be tailored to each person and situation.
@@piadox basically an amplified code switch
Did anyone else notice that at first, when Paul uses the voice, the background voice sounds like the Reverend Mother? But when he uses his voice in the last clip, when he blows her back with how powerful his voice is, the background voice is Paul's voice, as if he's overpowering her. I think that's pretty cool. I didn't notice that until now.
Every time I hear the voice I think of “Dew it!”
Almost gave Gaius Helen Mohiam a heart attack
Presumably he can literally do that too, but he didn't; he measured it at a level that would flood her with anxiety and panic like a beaten child.
He was able to make the most powerful Bene Gesserit in the galaxy submit.
I think I’ve watched silence about 20
Times by now 😂
That's how breakfast is at my house too. Kids amirite
Now that I think about it. When they use the voice, it always sounds distorted and with another voice behind it.
Like when Paul uses the voice on his mom it sounds like the Reverend Mother.
I havent read the books and I dont know if it is this way, but does the voice makes it so the person being influenced hears a person they concider an autorithy speak to them?
If so its interesting that at the end, when Paul uses the voice on her by silencing her, we only hear his voice and no other behind it.
In the book the Voice is different non only by different users, but also when it's used on different people by the same user. By the way it is described the "sound" of the voice depends by the users, by the target, by the situation, the place even the feelings of both. As it's described one of the first time in the book by Jessika before using it she has to "decode" her target for it to work, then (in the occasion I'm talking about) the tone of Jessica's order is described as a "Lament" or a "Wail" (sorry I don't know which is the exact word in English since I read the books in Italian so I translated by the meaning). Anyway every time the voice is used it is stated either by the narrator by a character (usually Lady Jessika or a Reverend mother) or by the different Font used in text.
So one can say that it's not a real "power" per se, but more a a very deep knowledge of everything is happening in that exact situation, the grant the users the possibility to give an order with the Voice. And the target executes the order even before realizing that he was given one.
All in all I think it was a good choice to make it sound like that in the movies so it's easier to understand to the audience that did not read the books.
On a side note also Paul's speech to Fremen in the book is given using the Voice (and only Paul as far as I remember is capable of using the Voice on more than one person at a time), that's why at least to me Timothee's voice sound so distorted or raspy when he gives his last speech to firemen before the final attack.
The film has it include 'the voices of their ancestors'. As a male Paul's is the only voice that appears to have male voices in the mix (the reason why the Kwisatz Haderach needs to be male, because the women only have access to their female ancestors).
you missed “let him try”
You’re missing Margot Fenring’s use of Voice. (I think it’s the best use in either movie, too :) ) It’s subtle and very different from the more aggressive versions used elsewhere. But when she speaks to Feyd-not everything she says, just some things-it carries the reverb and over/undertones that the movies very clearly use to signify the Voice.
1:08 this is the scene where I realized how powerful the Voice was, it’s literally like she forced his body to move
I think she used it on a fremen to find Paul when he came to the South “find him”
When I saw that I thought, "I'd be using the voice ALL THE TIME.
she did
Yeah, I think so too.
да не, искала ухилянтов
@@МаксимШустиков-й1м a ruscist using Anglo-Saxons' RUclips, how cute 😊
You missed "Let him try"
Scariest one
@@shaecouture7480totally
The virgin jedi mind trick that only work on weak minds
Vs
The chad voice that works on everyone
Consider what you're about to do Paul Atr....
I DON'T REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GODDAMN THING!
after reading the books i truly think that rebecca ferguson might be one of the best castings in a set of films full of absolutely perfect castings
What about the “IM POINTING THE WAY” when he yells at Stilgar cause he doesn’t want to kill him before his big Muad’Dib speech. Wasn’t sure but going back and watching it now the way Stilgars face dropped makes it seem like that had an effect on him. I feel others would have been annoyed or threatened and would have reacted with anger, but the way Stilgars face just dropped makes it seem like almost immediate obedience instead
The "Silence" was literal goosebumps :)
Fun fact: the change in Paul's Voice is because Paul is the Kwisatz Haderach. His Bene Gesserit training (female) allowed him to access his FEMALE genetic memories through his X chromosome, something all Bene Gesserit can do, and why there's a female undertone to his use of the Voice early on. However, accessing male memories is forbidden in the sisterhood because male memories are known to be "predatory" and can imprint on a vulnerable person, especially a woman, who is unable to control them. (Spoilers: this happens to a very prominent female character later in the series.)
The Kwisatz Haderach is the prophesied male heir who can do what no Bene Gesserit has ever done: successfully access all female AND male genetic memories through the X and Y chromosomes.
When Paul drinks the Water of Life and masters all of his genetic memories, "bridging space and time", he has full access to the past and a full understanding of many possible futures all at once.
When he silences the Reverend Mother, those are his MALE genetic memories speaking through him (including Leto, who was murdered because of the Bene Gesserit and the Harkonnens.)
Just wait until Alia makes her servants “BRING ME MY BA BA.”
"Open wide! Here comes the aeroplane!"
"S̷̩͘T̷͚͖͙̬̯̏̀͘O̴̞͋̋P̷̝͉̈́̕."
😂😂😂
Didn't even have to change his pitch to SILENCE her!!!
You missed "Get off me!", from Dune 1 and "All of us", "Find them!" and "Let him try" from Dune 2. You missed more than you actually put in the video.
You forgot the scene where Jessica says “Let him try”
It'd be interesting to see if they use some of the auditorial tricks that Horror movies do to literally affect viewers whenever the Voice is used
"SILENCE" is the reason why i went to see it in IMAX
Im so sad that i wasnt more prevelant in the movies because I love this sort of power
You forgot "LET HIM TRY."
Nobody:
That one Squidward creepy pasta: 3:13
"If you want it, make me give it to you."
You missed one, when Paul had the vision and said "Get off me" he used the voice then.
What about Lady Margot? Best use of the voice…
I'm gonna use the dune voice after this
You forgot “GET OFF ME”
Lol, the RUclips closed captions think Jessica says "come on me."
My confidence before vs after taking a shot
idk why they decided to not put in the film sceen with the sardaukar spies
I guess "SILENCE!!!" didn't have the desired effect. She said "Abomination.", right away. If you use the Voice in a language they don't know, does it still work? SILENCIO!!! Say what?
Hearts on fire!
3:24 *S I L E N C E !* 😡
One more - “Find them”
Find it funny that the Reverend Mother Mohiam calls him abomination. While in fact she and her distorted religion is what created Paul in the first place. Goes to show no matter how hard you try, you can never control the power you created. It never goes the way your slithering and scheming mind planned it.
If Paul was bluffing wouldn't Mohiam sensed it?
“DO IT”
So this is where Dan abnett got Eisenhorn's will from.
Rebecca is a legend
...of life
"all scenes" you missed a ton wtf
Does the voice work on strong minded people or only the weak or everybody?
Haven't read the books (nor will I) but it seems to me that the Bene G are the most powerful beings here. No need for spice or anything
i don't like the new way he says "Silence"
Why was his silencing the Reverend Mother an abomination?
Cuz they only teach that to females
It was a misused line meant to address Alia (Paul’s preborn sister), not sure why it was kept in the movie since Alia’s birth is postponed until the sequel. Paul is not an abomination by definition, but the Bene Gessirit may still view him with the same disdain as one because he is a power out of their control
@@AgentMercer nah, abomination as in no male should wield that power
@@aggressivefennec You missed a few scenes from dune 2, where jessica used the voice on the temple keeper and another when she used it on a fremen.
@@shamhoshino no, abomination has a literal term in the Dune franchise. The Bene Gessirit WANTED to create a male who wields their power because he can access the half of the ancestral memories and prescience that the female Bene Gessirit can not, that is not an abomination, the only problem is Paul spiraled out of their control.
An abomination is one whose ancestral memories take control of their mind, an ancestor “possesses” them in a way, they lose their sense of self and are taken over by a (usually)malevolent ancestral ego. Preborns almost always become abominations, and Paul’s sister is a preborn, that line was meant for her. I guess it can be chalked up that the reverend mother was just using the term as an insult towards Paul, because he is not actually an abomination
"Abomination" 😩
More muttering, murmuring and mumbling in the half-dark than anything else.
Arent bg immune to the voice?
Someone read too much ao3
Where is the “get off me”
Not all.
The sexual tension in the first scene is immeasurable
No
What a pathetic choice of protagonist
You missed "Let him try"