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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @Noone-of-your-Business
    @Noone-of-your-Business Год назад +67

    5:30 - The most underrated part of _any_ cable soldering is slipping on the plug housing *_before_* soldering. If you forget this, you can start all over.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +8

      I certainly learned that one the hard way!

    • @lukespread
      @lukespread Год назад +9

      Been there, done that x 10, dammit.

    • @xanataph
      @xanataph Год назад +5

      @@FrankOlsonTwins It's alright if you forget to slip on the casing and insulation sleeve when you do the *first* end. Really sucks if it's the second end! Although if it's just the insulation you've forgotten a bit of lekky tape does the trick! lol

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      Lol, it still gets me once in a while! I've started using liquid tape, which isn't very pretty, but it does hold quite well. It requires 2 coats, which is annoying.

  • @MarcBeland
    @MarcBeland Год назад +61

    I've been making my own cables for years, and your ideas for separating the braid in two and using a pedal to hold it steady while soldering have now become part of my process. THANKS!!!!

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +4

      Awesome! Glad it helps!

    • @sonoffantm
      @sonoffantm Год назад +7

      Agreed !! I have been making & repairing cables for decades and always thought I was wise using a small vise to hold the plugs while soldering . Trying very carefully to not over tighten the jaws of the vise & squash the hollow plug shaft. (Which has happened more than once when I was in too much of a hurry.) Your usage of a pedal input jack is so simple, brilliant and time saving ! The countless hours of locating , setting up & putting away the vise over the years will now be a thing of the past. Thank you for making my day !

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +5

      I'll never go back to the old way!

    • @winnaingtun9026
      @winnaingtun9026 Год назад +1

      😮😮😮😮❤

    • @ranradd
      @ranradd Год назад +1

      Wow, same here! Dog learns new tricks.

  • @madnessbydesignVria
    @madnessbydesignVria Год назад +4

    I made high-end cables for 20 years. I love Canare wire. So easy to work with, and so reliable. Best of all, it's not even expensive (I know that's relative, and you can buy cheaper cable, but don't waste your money - get Canare).
    Canare also makes the best 1/4" connectors and RCA connectors (by far). Neutrik makes the best XLR connectors (by far).
    Using a guitar pedal to hold the connector can work (obviously), but you can get a good "helping hands" unit with movable clamps for $10-$20 USD. Some come with magnifying glasses and/or lights attached. These can be extremely helpful when you're soldering mic cables (XLR connectors), or anything else that may need to be held at odd angles, for easier access.
    I always told people: It's not rocket science, it's just practice. Don't breathe the fumes, don't burn yourself, and ALWAYS wash your hands when you're done (solder contains lead, which is extremely bad for you).

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +2

      100% agree on the Canare wire. It's the only thing I use at this point for making cables. The helping hands are great, but I was looking for a more accessible approach. Most guitarists have an old pedal kicking around so I figured put it to work! And for anyone else reading this, absolutely- wash your hands after ANY contact with solder.
      Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @jfinchiva
    @jfinchiva 5 лет назад +130

    OMG - using a pedal to hold the plug while soldering! Genius idea. Why have I never thought of that?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  5 лет назад +9

      Yeah, I should really get one of those "third hand" clamping devices too!

    • @jerund
      @jerund 5 лет назад +16

      A 2x4 with a 1/4 inch hole drilled into it works just as well, and you don't have to worry about overheating the pedal jack.

    • @Richard.Andersson
      @Richard.Andersson 4 года назад +5

      @@jerund Usually the pedal Jack is soldered directly to something that would remove the heat, hence it should not be an issue. But good to keep in mind. On the other hand, having metal contact to the plug during soldering actually helps to not overheat the insulation between the ring and tip inside the plug, so it has some benefits as well.

    • @ChesterRodriguez
      @ChesterRodriguez 3 года назад +2

      Agree. Brilliant idea.

    • @steveaharmadianto3712
      @steveaharmadianto3712 3 года назад

      Isnt that hot?

  • @longlivebytor
    @longlivebytor Год назад +22

    Great video. As a person that has done a LOT of soldering, the only thing I would suggest is that you tin all wires and the connection points on the plug prior to making the final solder connection. The solder will flow faster and require less heating time.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +3

      Fair point!

    • @mpluis23
      @mpluis23 Год назад +1

      Also the pliers with a rubber band band makes a good vice to hold the connector. dont want to damage the circuits with to much heat.

    • @Digmen1
      @Digmen1 Год назад

      Yes I was always taught to tin the wires and plug before soldering.
      I guess it depends on whether you want to put the tin wire into the hole or just over it.

  • @TheFRiNgEguitars
    @TheFRiNgEguitars Год назад +1

    The very best soldering tutorial I have seen, forget most of the others.. Notice the pre-heat is less than 1 second? The operation happens fast, beautiful solder flow and fillet, no melted insulation. The tip intersects the work and the solder, the flow of the solder aids in heat transfer into the work (not as much the pre-heat) The solder flows AWAY from the tip.. the opposite of what others TRY to teach, incorrectly, that it flows to the heat. This is clean work!

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      Thanks for saying so! As you know, the subtleties of soldering are really in the details. I try to teach a methodical approach, I hope it helps some folks!
      Thanks for checking out the vid!

  • @planetguitar6450
    @planetguitar6450 2 года назад +1

    I immediately hit the like button the minute i saw that the guy used pedal for support. Kudos man. We need this kinda information on RUclips.

  • @JohnA000
    @JohnA000 Год назад +3

    I made my own cables back in the mid 1970's. I still have them. They still work perfectly. None have failed yet. I used switchcraft plugs and belden cable.

  • @chenks54
    @chenks54 Год назад +4

    Hi, Whilst I generally know how to solder a jack plug onto a cable, and get the same results as you do, I have learnt a couple of great ideas from watching this. Firstly, the idea of prizing the wires into two separate groups and then twisting them together before soldering is a great idea. Also pushing the jack plug into an effect pedal to hold it while soldering is such a great idea, and so simple. I have a cheap pedal that's now dead and doesn't work - I can use that! I nearly overlooked this video, thinking to myself "I know how to solder jack plugs onto cables!". I'm rather glad now that I didn't over look this video -goes to show, one can always find something new and helpful, even though the video's covered what you already think you know! So .. thank you for this video, I look forward to watching more of your videos.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Thanks for checking out the vid and I'm glad it helped! I must admit, after I figured out the pedal trick, I haven't looked back. Nothing is quite as convenient!

  • @Bristoll170
    @Bristoll170 Год назад +11

    Well, I've been in the industry for 40+ years. Your soldering is fine. But the centre conductor should be pushed up from under the tip terminal. Not the top. It keeps the coax as straight as possible, and there's no lump to negotiate with the raised center insulation for thesleve. If trimmed and formed correctly, the tinned earth brade will swing down and sit where it should 👍

  • @rd40082
    @rd40082 3 месяца назад +1

    The idea of using a pedal as support for work is great. Thanks

  • @zacharynarloch
    @zacharynarloch 4 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for this! I had a braided copper guitar cable that suddenly went to hell for no reason at all (I haven't used it in a few months and plugged it in my amp to get 0 buzzing sound with the simple touch test). Opened the connector and they looked secure, but they were probably shorted with bad solder. I cut off a few inches off the cable itself on both sides and soldered it back on like the video suggested and BAM, back to a nice cable. Saved me the hassle of driving through 5+ inches of snow 20+ miles one way to my local guitar shop to spend $30 or more on a new cable! Thank you so much Frank!

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  4 года назад

      Awesome! The power of DIY... Glad it helped!

  • @69voxbeetle
    @69voxbeetle 2 года назад +5

    I don't often subscribe after watching ONE video.... This is one of the best instructional ones I have seen in Long, Long time. The idea of using a larger pedal to hold your work.... Genius. 👍

  • @stanstanly3812
    @stanstanly3812 Год назад +7

    Worked for a large aerospace company for 25 years where I had to solder almost every day. Great video. The only thing I would do different is maybe use a little liquid flux on those loose strands and I would clean my solder joints :)

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Great advice, I'll add that to the next series of videos- thanks!

  • @rareform6747
    @rareform6747 Год назад +1

    55 years in the guitar world , best cables are George L's "super easy and never a problem " Nice Post 💫

  • @shader26
    @shader26 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey, thanks for that. I’ve been making my own cables for years, and have it down, but some of your methods seem like a better way to go, definitely going to try it next time!

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 Год назад +1

    I liked the little test you did at the end to compare the old plug soldering to the new ones - much stronger

  • @Richard.Andersson
    @Richard.Andersson 4 года назад +39

    I work as an engineer at a company that produced cables, and I think this is a great video for good DIY connector attachment! Filling/molding the connector housing with glue/plastic for better pull and bend protection is the only thing missing, but hard to perform at home.
    One comment regarding the semiconductive layer: It's main purpose is to remove triboelectric noise due to friction between the braid and the insulation (think static electricity when rubbing a balloon against your hair). I guess it also helps a little with electrostatic shielding at low frequencies, but I'm not sure how efficient it would be, and it definitely would not help against magnetic fields.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  4 года назад +4

      I'll take that compliment, thank you!
      That's interesting about the rubberized semiconductive layer. I've experienced an audible static pop with some random cables by stepping on them(more noticeable on mic cables). I'd be interested to read more on the subject. Cable science is complex so I try to buy cable by a company who has a good grasp on it!
      Regarding the plastic filler- I prefer not to fill the gap because I feel it make the cable ends basically un-repairable. Now, there's always an argument to be made: the plugs are only $2 a piece(plus shipping!) and plug joint does become kind of indestructible, BUT if you need to fix your cable fast, or modify the cable for some reason, (what if it gets pinched or cut near one end)that plug end is pretty much done for and it's going in the garbage.
      I don't remember if I mention it in the video, but my main cables are those which I've made from these exact parts and I've never had a failure. This includes a few years of non-stop use, heavy gigging and even cross country touring. But, I don't abuse them, I don't pull on the cable to unplug, and I try to put them away after use.
      Do you think E6000 would be a suitable filler, for those who want to fill plug cavities? Any recommendations?
      Thanks again!

    • @Richard.Andersson
      @Richard.Andersson 4 года назад +4

      ​@@FrankOlsonTwins Signal cables with semiconductive layers are usually referred to as "low-noise cables" for sensitive industrial and measurement applications (when referring to triboelectric noise). Within the field of audio applications you can't really trust anyone due to all the subjective naming and placebo effects. Low-noise cables typically have only one SC layer between screen and insulation, super-low-noise or ultra-low-noise cables have an additional SC layer between conductor and insulation. However this would be overkill for audio applications, they are more for super sensitive measurements.
      Regarding fillers I agree that for repairability it's better to go without it, I would do the same for DIY. At work make lots of stuff for military, nuclear, offshore, and aerospace applications, where a failed connector could be very serious, hence it is designed for longest lifetime with less consideration for the price. We try to use the exact same material as the jacket itself to get a seamless joint. This require machines that can melt and inject the plastic/rubber, which is hard to do at home. I am not sure how good E6000 is against bending over time, also not sure about electrical properties (as you don't want leakage between screen and conductor).

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Richard for the info!
      One interesting phenomenon I learned about low-noise cables vs. regular(no SC layer) instrument cable: I found that during some unscientific listening tests, that cables with better shielding also attenuated the tone a bit more in the high end. The low-noise cables have a nice bass and midrange detail, but were slightly darker sounding overall. The "regular" cable retained more high end, but also allowed more buzzing to enter into the signal. That's when I was sold on high quality, low-noise cable. I started reading on the subject and learned about cable capacitance and how it relates to cable length in unbalanced cables. I find that with high quality cable, I can get up to about 20 feet without a noticeable drop in tone. That's pushing it, though.

    • @Richard.Andersson
      @Richard.Andersson 4 года назад +4

      @@FrankOlsonTwins Interesting that you could hear the difference. For very low level signal, such as from a mic, capacitance can be quite important. The SC layer do increase capacitance of the cable slightly, because with just a braid you have some air between it and the insulation, which has low permittivity. While the SC layer has perfect 360 degree contact with the insulation.
      Low-noise cables are also not good for high frequencies because the SC layer adds attenuation. But this is normally in the MHz range, so not audiable. But I have not made any serious measurements in the audio range to say what could be the dominant factor.

    • @nvrudd
      @nvrudd 4 года назад +5

      @@Richard.Andersson here's a potentially dumb question - could hot glue work as a sufficient filler?

  • @Omininc
    @Omininc Год назад +1

    How did I never think this practical hack of inserting the plug into the female hole!! I'll take it in account for a next time. Thank U.

  • @leftovernoise
    @leftovernoise Год назад +2

    Idk why i never thought of putting the tip into w pedal to hopdnit still. Great tip!

  • @kennethcohagen3539
    @kennethcohagen3539 Год назад +1

    Thank you. But how do you make the best adapter cable, from unbalanced to balanced? And what about speaker cables? Along with balanced cables we use all three types of cables in a typical rig.

  • @paulinedavis8734
    @paulinedavis8734 Год назад

    THANKS....brilliant & the Guitar Pedal TIP as a holder 👍
    Just bought a soldering iron to fix two older cables.
    Never thought about making my own PREMIUM cables.

  • @XSFlanger
    @XSFlanger 3 года назад +13

    Pedal trick was an unexpected move :) Overall quality work. I haven't soldered anything over a decade or even more and this made me want to grab some Mogami 2524 and make patch cables, which I don't even need :D

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  3 года назад +1

      Cool, thanks!

    • @holboroman
      @holboroman Год назад

      Pedal trick is straight out brilliant lateral thinking!

    • @32herz
      @32herz Год назад

      pedal trick rules and if you are doing multicores, patchbay is your best friend.

  • @drumbyte
    @drumbyte 9 месяцев назад +2

    pre-soldering the ground wires is a brilliant idea to add extra strength to the unit.

  • @NackDSP
    @NackDSP Год назад +12

    It is also good to add something to keep the cable from bending sharply right at the connector. I like using heat shrink tubing and putting a nylon cable tie in the mix as a strain relief for the first inch or so of cable to avoid a sharp bend when pulled at 90 degrees. Nice video. The last cable was best with a bit more insulated cable beyond the crimp.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Sure, a bit of strain relief never hurts!

  • @mdurg
    @mdurg 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for the tips. I'll be making some shorter cables this weekend and this helps. The plugging into a pedal tip is priceless!

  • @effdpaul1815
    @effdpaul1815 Год назад +1

    Well done video! Name brand instrument and guitar speaker cables are so expensive, you'd expect the quality of the terminal connectors to be as good as the cable they use ... but as you have shown, they are not! The one thing you could have emphasized was how important having a quality soldering iron is ... and using a high quality rosin solder.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Thanks! It's true, when attempting any electronics project, there are so many things to consider before you even work on your project at hand! Experience continues to be the best teacher...!

  • @FursAndMasksMusic
    @FursAndMasksMusic 2 года назад +3

    Thank you so much. Along with electric kettles and Sudofed Sinus Relief spray, these sorts of concise how-to videos are among my top reasons for being alive in the modern age.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  2 года назад

      Thanks! Add coffee maker to that list and I'm right there with you!

  • @jambeydixon7427
    @jambeydixon7427 Год назад +1

    Great! It's worth this extra time to keep them from crackling and failing

  • @adamprieto
    @adamprieto 4 года назад +5

    Best video on making your own Instrument cable. Wish I found this before screwing up my first two cables.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  4 года назад +4

      Thanks! Just cut off the ends and resolder!!

  • @rawdelicious
    @rawdelicious 9 месяцев назад +1

    Best and most meticulous method and so well documented too!

  • @peteytwofinger
    @peteytwofinger Год назад +1

    great technique ! - never use flux , especially if you remove i afterwards .

  • @oskarwroniewicz
    @oskarwroniewicz 3 года назад +12

    That's easily one of the most helpful, informative and to the point videos I've seen. Thank you so much

  • @franzsapka
    @franzsapka Год назад +4

    Excellent tutorial and stellar soldering skills!

  • @nyrbsamoht
    @nyrbsamoht 5 лет назад +2

    thankyou this is the best advice ive found for diy cables without mucking around
    especially liked the tips using a a female jack to stabilise it for soldering.
    also inserting the conductor in how you did
    and cutting half the shield off for the ground. that seems like it would make it not bulge so much

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  5 лет назад

      Thanks! I've stopped buying cables because I'm usually disappointed in the low quality materials or poor assembly. Glad this video helps!

  • @yevgeny79
    @yevgeny79 Год назад +3

    Excellent video and great solder technique. One step in my process different from yours is to reverse the soldering order. I insert the center lead in the hole, as you have, but leave it unsoldered. Then solder ground first, gently pull wire so the ground wire is pre-tensioned. Lastly solder the center lead in place. I don't trust the little crimpy bits to hold the wire, a few tugs and they slip, putting tension on center wire eventually failing where bare wire meets solder. 90% of the time this is the source of failure in cheap "house brand" patch cables, stray wires ground out causing that scratchy sound we hate so much.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      Great advice, I'll give that a try on my next cable- reversing the solder order of the leads. One thing I really like about this cable is that the center conductor is thicker than most(18awg) with over 100 strands of copper. Once soldered it has an incredibly solid feel.
      Thanks again!

  • @DustinWatts
    @DustinWatts Год назад +2

    Nicely done! You forgot 1 step though, and that is cleaning the flux off. It looks much nicer but more important, flux speeds up corrosion, so getting rid of it actually has a function other then aesthetics :) And as said below in the comments, tinning the signal wire helps a lot to get it in the hole, off course only if you don't over-tin the wire (otherwise it won't fit through anymore).

  • @alandoyle6313
    @alandoyle6313 Год назад +2

    Great video thanks. One small question though - why do so many folk say "sodder" when it's spelt and pronounced "solder" ?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Ha, it's definitely a regional thing. In North America, the "L" is generally silent. In the UK and Europe, people pronounce the L.

    • @alandoyle6313
      @alandoyle6313 Год назад

      @@FrankOlsonTwins oh, ok, got it 👍. 😆 I guess that's how language evolves 😃 A dang good video anyway, regardless of pronunciation...hee hee..... thanks again.

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 Год назад +1

    I've seen the inner conductor insulation pull back due to cable mess use as well.

  • @Black_Dome
    @Black_Dome Год назад +1

    veeeery helpful, soldered my first jack cable today

  • @anlaik
    @anlaik Год назад +3

    I always thought how the shielding braid is too thick but never thought of clipping it like this, great idea! I wouldn't recommend plugging in any jacks in any equipment while soldering, especially to beginners, because jacks can get extremely hot while soldering and it may damage the insides of the pedal or whatever you're plugging it into. Instead, you can get some cheap wood clamps or just get a stand for soldering.

    • @paullelys161
      @paullelys161 Год назад

      If soldered correctly I doubt it would damage anything in the socket but to be safe probably a good idea.

  • @mysticphilosopher7777
    @mysticphilosopher7777 4 года назад +2

    Thanks man! I just made 2 cables thanks to you. Klotz la grange wire, right angle connectors. They sound great!

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  4 года назад

      Awesome! Feels great, huh? The feeling only deepens the longer you own the cables! 🔧❤🎸

  • @xanataph
    @xanataph Год назад

    I had a lead that I used for my "recording" lead, as it was short but not too short. It had fully moulded connectors. One end got dodgy so I cut it off and soldered on a nice vintage jack plug. Worked for a while the it became dicey again. Cut the other end off and soldered on the "top of the range" jack plug from the local electronics chain, which was essentially a cheap copy of the older design of Neutrik jack.
    This worked for a while before becoming dicey again. Re-ended one of the connectors and it worked for a whole before once again becoming dicey and somehow intermittent. Turned out to be the cable itself was so poor that it would break internally, and was nothing to do with the jacks. Took both of the jacks off, soldered them on to an old piece of Musiflex mike cable of similar length and it's been great for years.
    The question is, this lead has had two new jacks and one new cable...is it the same lead anymore? lol

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Lol..well, it sounds like the spirit of that lead is still alive, even if the cable bowed out early. I guess you have an "evolved" lead now! That is the beauty of good connectors, they can last through many cable changes!

  • @moskitoh2651
    @moskitoh2651 Год назад +2

    For the sound, the cable impedance is essential. A high impedance lowers the resonant frequency of the pickup.
    Was this taken into account?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      Sure, i try to keep cables between 6 ft and 15 ft long. Anything longer than 10 ft begins to attenuate the high frequencies but a 15ft cable can sound good. I think the user should consider the trade off of frequency or versatility and make a cable that is the most useful to them. Or, do as i have done and make a few of various lengths and use them where needed!

    • @moskitoh2651
      @moskitoh2651 Год назад

      @@FrankOlsonTwins I keep the cable short and with a high distance between shielding and the middle. Cables with 2 shieldings (use outer one as second phase) helps a lot.
      If I want to lower the resonance frequency, I use a capacitor. You can get the freqency down, but never up again.
      I just wanted to put some focus on this topic, as many people are not aware.

  • @lonememusic1969
    @lonememusic1969 2 года назад +1

    Thank you a lot for sharing the tips, i was confused on doing it for the first time.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  2 года назад

      Glad to help! Each cable will be better than the last!

  • @edjefferson9175
    @edjefferson9175 Год назад +1

    An extra step of coating the wire with a tiny bit of flux and then lightly tinning makes work easier and a better joint. That way you don’t have to deal with stray strands.
    And apply a bit of solder to the tip of the iron before each joint. Helps transfer heat to the work quickly. Clean the tip with a wet sponge in between.

  • @stevefiorito5379
    @stevefiorito5379 Год назад +1

    Your cable plug holder?? Brilliant!

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Thanks, I can't go back to not using one during this type of soldering!

  • @ChrisM541
    @ChrisM541 Год назад +1

    Very, very nicely done, and most excellent out-of-the-box thinking in using a pedal to steady the plug before soldering!
    It's shocking how poorly constructed the shop-bought cable was, with both wires a ball hair away from touching. I suppose though, that's called 'planned obsolescence', requiring the customer to buy another sooner rather than later.

  • @danielirvine7468
    @danielirvine7468 Год назад +1

    Thanks so much man I plan on making new cables.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      No problem 👍 Hope it helps! Here's an updated video with the same cable and newer style plugs. One nice thing about the newer plugs is the built in strain relief, but either one is great. Good luck!

  • @anxose
    @anxose Год назад +1

    muy buena explicación! enhorabuena!..es la mejor manera de q los jacks duren mucho👍👍👍

  • @kristohanonkantakaron89
    @kristohanonkantakaron89 Год назад +1

    Thank you for sharing tips, God bless always👍🙏

  • @jigokunogamagaeru
    @jigokunogamagaeru 2 года назад +1

    I've been always wondering if I could use the TV antena cable for guitar.Thank you!

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  2 года назад

      You could try it! It will probably work but it's not very flexible.... Let me know if you ever try it. I'm interested to know what happens!

    • @jigokunogamagaeru
      @jigokunogamagaeru 2 года назад

      @@FrankOlsonTwins Thank you for replying, will let you know when I make it!

    • @-Twotonepony-
      @-Twotonepony- 2 года назад

      @@jigokunogamagaeru
      Well... Did you make it?

  • @jennywiltshire7354
    @jennywiltshire7354 Год назад

    Good video, thanks. Have you considered a light layer of solder on the joints before you attach the cable with solder?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Thanks! Yes, I often pre-tin when soldering loose cables. However, the inner conductor would not have fit into the hole with the extra solder adding to the diameter of the wire. In this case, I chose not to pre tin the wires and I just soldered directly. Thanks for checking it out!

  • @C_U_R_I_E_L
    @C_U_R_I_E_L 3 года назад +5

    I wish all videos were like your videos.

  • @findJLF
    @findJLF Год назад +1

    Very pro presentation and skills. I'd never seethe wooden tool used before - so a great tip. That and the use of the guitar pedal! So many great points you made in this video , well done.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Thanks, glad it was helpful! The wood pick might not be necessary with other types of cable, but Canare has tight, braided shielding. There's no other good way(that I'm aware of) to get the wires apart without breaking them!

  • @officialpoa3171
    @officialpoa3171 Год назад +1

    *Awesome presentation!!! Can you do this again, with something like a pair of 280 HD PRO head phones?*

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      I did a similar one a few years ago. ruclips.net/video/NbHA3zblAgk/видео.html This one is for the Sony MDR headphones, but it will be similar. A word of warning though- headphone cable can be difficult to solder so it takes a bit of patience and practice.

  • @2cool4u24
    @2cool4u24 4 года назад +5

    Another step you could add is tinning the twisted wires before soldering the connections. Makes solder flow in better. But the solder looks really nice and shiny which is a good sign

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  4 года назад +2

      Agreed, I sometimes tin wires to save time, especially for point to point turret or eyelet work. For situations that where I wrap the wire around something, I prefer not to tin. I think you're right, though. Tinning these wires might have made the connections flow more quickly.

    • @boppin_bennie
      @boppin_bennie 2 года назад +3

      Also lightly tinning the contact point of the ground connection as well as twisted wires, since the tip is going into a hole you wouldn't want to tin that on this type 1/4 plug but some 1/4 plugs don't have a hole for the tip wire, in that case I'd also pre-tin the tip (hot) connection and wire.

    • @TheFRiNgEguitars
      @TheFRiNgEguitars Год назад

      Good point, yes, however small work such as this does not require tinning. The solder flows out quickly.. no melted insulation, no oxidized nor cold solder.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo Год назад +3

      @@FrankOlsonTwins “proper” procedure in electronics technician training is to tin the wire, then use round-nose pliers to dress it into whatever shape you need, typically a j-hook or a flat S bend (like you would use here). Tinning has two main advantages: reducing the time it takes to perform the final joint, and ensuring that you don’t have any stray strands anywhere. Especially with smaller connectors, the latter becomes essential, as the eyelets (or other openings for the wire) get smaller.
      But I completely agree: great work overall. Most soldering tutorials on RUclips are, frankly, examples of what _not_ to do. This is a welcome exception!

  • @MarkFromTaiwan
    @MarkFromTaiwan 2 года назад

    wow so good I just bought some phone heads need some instructions to work that I find you've done very nice job man and thank you so much

  • @genipaisley4340
    @genipaisley4340 4 года назад +3

    Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks so much for making this video.

  • @metallitech
    @metallitech Год назад +1

    What do you think about inserting the centre conductor from inside to outside? It's not too hard to see the parts getting bend together and shorting the signal otherwise. Just a thought.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +1

      Good question! You can do that if you like. To me, it seems approximately the same distance between the positive conductor and ground so I doubt it matters much. However, I do see the appeal of having the insulation of the inner conductor as a fail safe in case of a bending issue.
      That said, after many years of use I've never had one of these Neutrik/Rean plugs fail in such a way. I've seen very cheap plugs/cables bent to the point of failure. I believe when properly soldered and fastened to the cable insulation, the failure rate of these cable ends is quite low.

  • @stratcat3216
    @stratcat3216 Год назад +1

    Perfect, thank you! I can't tell you how often these fail :) well.. yeah I probably can and you obviously already knew!

  • @32herz
    @32herz Год назад +1

    Everything in this video is correct. 🙏

  • @MikeyMack303
    @MikeyMack303 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the excellent video.

  • @Leandro-np1uk
    @Leandro-np1uk Год назад +1

    antes que nada es recomendable pasarle una lija a la ficha en donde se va a soldar para que agarre bien el estaño.

  • @yehuda9056
    @yehuda9056 2 года назад +1

    This is very helpful, thanks a lot Sir

  • @johncruz9357
    @johncruz9357 Год назад +1

    I always pre tin the wire.
    What’s your thoughts on why you did not?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Pre-tinning wire is standard procedure, naturally. In this case, it would make it difficult(maybe impossible) to get the center conductor through the contact hole, since the diameter of the wire is close to that of the hole. Additionally, it makes it slightly easier to push the wire "brush" out of the way before soldering to reduce the need for trimming after soldering.
      Concerning the shield, tinning is nice but not completely necessary, and sometimes the added mass can create undue heat during the re-melt stage.
      So in these scenarios, I prefer not to tin. But if you perfer, do it!

  • @mikegayda715
    @mikegayda715 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic thanks short and to the point with everything you need to know

  • @MBA1111
    @MBA1111 2 года назад +1

    real pro. just did it the right way. tumbs up

  • @chimila59
    @chimila59 Год назад +1

    Muchas gracias por excelente tutorial. Lo haré de esa manera en la próxima ocasión

  • @michaeltaylors2456
    @michaeltaylors2456 Год назад +1

    The best video on this subject

  • @iancunningham7344
    @iancunningham7344 2 месяца назад +1

    Got a dumb question - 5:14, do I need an insulator? I bought cable and jacks, and neither came with separate insulators 🤔...

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  2 месяца назад +1

      It's not critical. Any piece of electrical tape, heat shrink or even or Plasti-dip will work fine. If you don't have any of those, it's no big deal. It's sort of a fail-safe in this case. But double check inside the shell, sometimes they hide inside the housing and you don't see them until you're installing the cable.

  • @robertsolomons7012
    @robertsolomons7012 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video bro first time i did it correct thanks

  • @michaelmountrakis9386
    @michaelmountrakis9386 2 года назад +1

    Excellent!!!! To the last detail!!!!!!

  • @marcbass2949
    @marcbass2949 Год назад +1

    Gracias por el video,un saludo grande!

  • @Tsicky
    @Tsicky 5 лет назад +4

    I really enjoyed the video. I was actually looking to replace my own cables but I’ll definitely try this instead. Thanks.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  5 лет назад

      It's worthwhile, Make a few good quality cables one day and you'll have them for many years!

  • @marcelosanches1335
    @marcelosanches1335 Год назад +1

    Thank you very much, I suffered for many years doing the wrong thing 😃

  • @gedcowburn2371
    @gedcowburn2371 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm just starting out making my own cables and I notice some people "tin" the jacks beforehand. What do you think if this practice? Is it worth doing?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  9 месяцев назад +1

      Sure, tinning can be helpful. Tinning the jacks makes the final joint a bit quicker, which could help to not overheat the cable. However, with this type of cable end, I find that tinning the inner conductor of the wire can make it a bit harder to insert it into the hole. If you're careful though, you can tin just enough to "wet" the wire without adding excess diameter, so it will still go through the hole. In either case, just check all sides of the joint to make sure none of the joint remains "dry." If it is, let the joint cool and then reheat and add solder to the dry spot.
      ruclips.net/video/FYitV1jVMxY/видео.html Here's the latest cable video I did, with updated cable connectors. In this video, I tin each conductor first.
      Tinning is a standard procedure in soldering, I'm certainly not trying to dissuade anyone from doing it. However, I make a choice between ease of assembly and proper technique. Sometimes, one of those things has to give for the best final result.

  • @yekoo
    @yekoo Год назад +1

    best cable i've ever seen.

  • @ShivashishMusicStudio
    @ShivashishMusicStudio 3 года назад

    Putting the plug into pedal for soldering is a cleaver idea thanx 🙏

  • @raym4694
    @raym4694 Год назад +1

    Good video, I just got one issue, when you soldered the wires, the solder you were using had Rosin core flux right? The problem with the flux is that it is great to help with the flow of the solder onto the wires but it has a MAJOR problem, its corrosive. Over time you will notice that your cables will start going bad, and the reason is that the flux residue being left after you soldered the wires will degrade the solder joint over time and cause the conductors in the wire to break down . And it all could have been avoided if you just added one extra step after you soldered the wires to the cable... You need to clean the solder joints and remove that flux residue immediately after soldering, and before anyone asks what to clean it with, either a contact cleaner like LPS contact cleaner or CRC contact cleaner, or if you don't have any of that you cant use at the bare minimum 70 proof rubbing alcohol, but 91 proof alcohol is the best to remove the residue . I know that there is NO-CLEAN solder ans fluxes out there, and you may have used that , but honestly I don't trust those no clean fluxes, I still clean that crap off, you can never be to sure when it comes to electronics, they are prone for corrosion damage and a little preventative maintenance will save you some grief later. Now if anyone wants to argue about this and say I'm full of crap go ahead, but just to let you know, I'm an Avionics Technician who has been working around aircraft wiring and electronics for 20 years now in the military and commercial and had also been working on guitar wiring for 22 years, so I think I know a thing or two about basic soldering principles... Like I said , not knocking your video, I actually enjoyed it and I subbed too, but I just want the people to get the correct info when dealing with electronics.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Thanks for the advice, some good points here! I'm certainly not inclined to argue with someone who has so much first hand field experience! However, I was under the impression that Rosin core solder was a mild flux that was specifically formulated for copper/brass and is non-corrosive in no-wash scenarios. But, if professional Avionics Techs are cleaning the rosin off their joints, it must be best practice! I'll add this step to my soldering technique, I'm sure it'll prove to be valuable!
      Best,
      FOT

  • @glennodonoghue644
    @glennodonoghue644 3 года назад +1

    I didn't put my main wire through the hole of the connector when soldering. Should I re-do it? I think I made a good connection anyway. Was a TRS connector

    • @glennodonoghue644
      @glennodonoghue644 3 года назад

      Or should I be shot out of a cannon towards the sun for doing so?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  3 года назад +1

      I'm sure it will be fine. If you still have your soldering equipment out and handy, it would be easy enough to redo it, but if not you'll prob get years out of it with moderate use. If you use the cable constantly, I would just re solder it. Otherwise, come back to it the next time you are making cables.

    • @glennodonoghue644
      @glennodonoghue644 3 года назад

      @@FrankOlsonTwins Thanks for the advice. I'll just wait until I'm making more cables to redo it. Probably the best bet. Cheers!

  • @sandyshea6879
    @sandyshea6879 3 года назад +1

    This video was very helpful! Thanks.

  • @MGeofire
    @MGeofire 4 года назад +3

    Excellent tutorial, accurate information and top-notch videography.

  • @fictions2135
    @fictions2135 2 месяца назад +1

    I’d love to see a video of going from a 1/8” stereo to a 1/4” mono female end with 2x 100k resistors (see: rane “why not wre?” article) . I’m getting pretty close but it’s less working room beteeen the strain relief and the lead. on a 1/4” female Rean.
    quad mic can be pretty challenging too.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  2 месяца назад

      I've made a few of these, and it's quite difficult to squeeze those resistors into the housing. They never turn out as pretty as I'd like....

  • @PoGoX7
    @PoGoX7 3 года назад +2

    Great video, dude! I'm making my own patch cables this weekend, and this helped a lot !!!

  • @yilmazcagri
    @yilmazcagri 2 года назад +1

    thanx.. what if the problem is not at the soldering? what if the broken part "in the middle" of the cable somewhere? how can i find the broken part and cut the cable there?

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  2 года назад +1

      This can be difficult. You'll need a multimeter to test the cable conductors to be sure which parts are working or not working. Then you'll basically have to visually inspect the wire by bending it around your fingers. A broken section will usually look different than the rest.
      Otherwise, you'll have to start cutting up the cable to see where it starts working...

  • @SouthpawAutoworks
    @SouthpawAutoworks 3 года назад +1

    Great tutorial! You got me wanting to build some cables. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Carehuea
    @Carehuea 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Frank. Concise and incredibly helpful...

  • @gustavomiranda2893
    @gustavomiranda2893 Год назад

    Não entendi uma palavra que ele falou, mas aprendi tudo que ele ensinou.
    Obrigado !

  • @Billkwando
    @Billkwando Год назад

    That was awesome!!!! I even enjoyed the peppy chiptune-type music. You should be proud that you made an excellent tutorial with no extra fluff, very clearly presented.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад +2

      Thanks! That was exactly the goal, I'm glad it came across!

  • @corissimo
    @corissimo 2 года назад +1

    Best video ever on this.

  • @taab7
    @taab7 3 года назад +1

    Is there a way to repair/tighten the ground sleeve shaft if it is loose and is able to spin? I have a very expensive guitar cable with gold plated jacks and the ground shaft on one end is loose causing intermittent signal loss.

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  3 года назад

      Hmmm, hard to say without seeing the cable connector. Any chance you can post a video and a link?

  • @fictions2135
    @fictions2135 2 месяца назад +1

    Everyone who makes cables needs to see this video just to see a how to prepare a braided shield.

  • @Guitar-Geek
    @Guitar-Geek Год назад +1

    very good job and scheme how to do it!

  • @jeoii0097
    @jeoii0097 2 года назад +1

    What kind of soldering Iron did tou used??

  • @jorgemellooliveira9611
    @jorgemellooliveira9611 Год назад +1

    Ótimo vídeo congratulações

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Obrigado!

    • @jorgemellooliveira9611
      @jorgemellooliveira9611 Год назад

      @@FrankOlsonTwinsobrigado por retornar um abraço eu faço meus cabos para nossa Band reformo nossos valvulados e assim vai grande abraço Sul do Brasil

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Very good! Every band needs a good technician, and it makes your job more interesting! All the best! -Frank

  • @christianCreo
    @christianCreo 3 года назад +1

    Very easy to follow. Thanks for this tutorial.

  • @JuanRodriguez-jl6ft
    @JuanRodriguez-jl6ft Год назад +1

    Great instructions 👍

  • @MrJack-og3mp
    @MrJack-og3mp Год назад

    how about using the heat shrink in join soldering frank??

    • @FrankOlsonTwins
      @FrankOlsonTwins  Год назад

      Sure, it can't hurt. I've made many without and it is optional in my opinion. If you like it, do it!

  • @rafikulislam1013
    @rafikulislam1013 Месяц назад +1

    How nice your soldering.