WHAT? I'm FORBIDDEN from working in China if I get MARRIED?!?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Getting married in China can be challenging as there are many cultural differences to take into consideration. You may need to pay a dowry, you will most likely have cultural clashes with your in-laws, come find out...
China Family Reunion Visa (Q)
This visa type came along with the promulgation of the Administrative Regulations of the PRC on Entry and Exit of foreigners on July 12, 2013, which was implemented as of September 1, 2013. Overseas Chinese can expect to benefit from the change when they return to China for family reunions. Depending upon the duration of stay and applicants' classification, the Q visa is further divided into two subclasses: Q1 and Q2.
Q1 is issued to relatives of Chinese citizens applying to enter and reside in China for purposes of family reunion, and to those who apply for family reunion of foreigners with Permanent Residency in China, as well as to persons applying to enter and reside in China for foster care, adoption and other reasons; Q2 is issued to relatives of Chinese citizens or foreigners with permanent residence in China for a short period of stay (less than 6 months).
Q1 is generally issued with a single entry and 30 days, and the holders must apply for Temporary Residence Permit within 30 days after entry. The residence permit can be granted for a minimum of 90 days and a maximum of 5 years. So, holders can exit and reenter freely during the validity of the residence permit. Q2 is flexible from 30 to 180 days, allows single, double, or multiple entries, and the holders can stay in China within the duration period as indicated on visa.
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Key sentence: The family will expect to move in with you later.
Meanwhile, in California the Chinese have virtually bought out half the land property in Silicon Valley.
I heard that and completely understand. This is also very common in the Latin community in america
@@dreadog6425 Also very common with Slavic people! Families across the globe do that, it seems.
Oh hell NO, NOOOOO. NO fucking way!!!!
Nope.
You gave me nightmares of my mother in law... the soups full of worms and organs to increase sperm count... You guys don't know crazy til you've met a Cantonese mother in law.
laowhy86 as a north chinese, canton food are extremely scared
OMG thats why i got so skinny because i did marry cantonese. and i thought something was wrong with the food and i did get some kind of crazy illness. when i got back to the US the doctors told me i had worms. i lost over 35 pounds. i was given worm pills for horse. i shit you not. and i could feel the worms moving in my belly. i am also no longer married to that girl. it was just nuts. i had a feeling they was doing something to me. and my wife did serve me chicken with worm in it. i just thought OMG, she cant be that dirty or blind to not see this. for 3 weeks i had to stop eating. only liquids. her and her family tried to control dinner and she actually locked me inside the apartment with no key for me to open the door to go out, and i did know basic cantonese, mandarin to get by. and i was safe. so why they locked me in. i actually had plans to escape to the bus station and then to the Guangzhou airport and change my return ticket date. it was really that bad.
laowhy86 take care yourself and don't be eaten by Cantonese.
@laowhy86 be honest... did I luck out marrying a woman from Sichuan? I haven't met many Cantonese women.....
Jeremy parsons nice trolling sir, move along
NOTHING in your videos is ever "boring" - you provide a window into an unfamiliar society. Often weird, sometimes funny, sometimes scary - but always interesting. Many Thanks.
You tell things as they are. If anything this is journalism at its finest, too bad, many reporters lack the integrity that you have and the effort you put into in these videos, yet, this is just your vlog.
Cheers!!
ウィンディアス Most journalists these days don’t put any effort into actually investigating anything.
Most frequently used word in Winston's videos? "Unfortunately." That says a lot about life in China for a Westerner.
How about that word, forbidden. The only person I would allow, or follow saying that is Jesus. Man's laws are terrible.
@@HellNoKamala that's ridiculous, and it's exactly why we have a separation between church and state.
@@iceman18211 It's forbidden to drink, drive fast, fart, curse. There's a time for everything under the sun, Bible.
@@HellNoKamala I have no time for the bible.
But Westerners don’t seem to take the hint.
As someone like you who, I assume, as a passion for China, I just wonder how.. I don't know, how weird, perhaps maybe irritating it is to love a country that technically doesn't like you back (not mentioning of course the great people you met and also live there) with all my respect. It's obviously more complex than that.
My wife is Vietnamese and Vietnamese culture is very similar to Chinese culture like the man has to pay for everything and you have to pay when you go to a wedding. To me it felt like you are actually buying your bride instead of marrying her.
This culture have been thousands years. In old Chinese saying Married girl like spilled water.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Rental is actually pretty cheap if you are only staying for the week.
This is implemented across Asia and those influenced by it all around the globe, it not only in two cultures.
This is an an EXCELLENT video!.Thus, to summarize if anybody is thinking about getting married in China, there's A LOT to think about!!!
It's NOT true that foreigners marrying Chinese citizens can only get a family visiting visa, and that they cannot work after marriage. I don't know what's wrong with Winston's situation, but foreigners can become Chinese permanent resident after 5 years of marriage.
Check out this video about an Arab merchant with a Chinese wife who later became a Chinese permanent resident and work in China: ruclips.net/video/fKkmPtXf6o4/видео.html (The discussion start at 26:15).
Maybe they let the arab Merchant because he's rich.
It has nothing to do with money.
Those who apply for admission to Chinese nationality shall be granted Chinese nationality if they have been approved. If they are permitted to join Chinese nationality, they may not retain their foreign nationality. " That is to say, when we join Chinese nationality, we lose the identity of foreigners at the same time.
But the welfare of Chinese citizens, education, medical treatment, pension and so on are still very bad, which makes many foreigners unwilling to give up their original nationality and join Chinese nationality.
If you have Chinese friends, they will persuade you 100% not to give up their original nationality.
I have no intentions of getting married to a Chinese woman, but I still find videos like this to be very interesting.
You and c-milk are like "insider cultural news". You guys give information and perspective found almost no where else but your youtube endeavors. THANK YOU...PLEASE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
Your observations and insights are RIGHT ON! I am American born Chinese married to a Taiwanese women. What you stated is so true Great advice!! Thank for sharing your thoughts and experiences so openly to us all. You are doing a great thing!!
Thailand is even worse. Even if married to a local you cannot own land, a business, etc.
I think Western nations should enact a retroactive treatment treaty.
If we cannot buy land or gain citizenship in their nations they should not be able to in ours.
That's fair.
Then watch how fast Asian nations rush to offer a fair and reasonable system to support their wealthy and elite who have bought land and rights throughout western countries.
technically, lao is the worst of the worst... you can't even date a lao person, it's like a death sentenceable offence
Laos
Look at the Western Nations History. Your policies have been the most racist of all the nations that you have mentioned. White Australia policy was based off of the British immigration policy. American policy was basically to bring in foreigners to use as modern day slaves. (Who built the railways?, the Chinese whom you lured over with the Great American Dream).
The only reason it was revoked, was because your 'brilliant' economists proposed that the lowly jobs that no 'white' person wanted to do could be done by the immigrants. The great American Dream, Australian Dream, British Dream were all propaganda to lure workers to your country who end up as toilet cleaners and waiters, prostitutes etc.
After your smart policy wasn't to what you expected, you had to get these mass immigrants to assimilate somehow.
Now China on the other hand or any east Asian nation has never lured anyone to their countries. In fact, their history has been one of 'closed doors' for centuries. The West changed this, so they need to deal with the consequences, not China. Its like saying why China, Japan, Korea isn't accepting any refugees. It was not their countries that greedily rushed in to topple stable countries, why should they be the ones the clean up the mess?. Ridiculous!!!
Uhh you can't own land/business whether you're married or not, and it's the same in China. How is that any worse?
The western countries with naturalization processes often do not belong to the white people or European descendants. American continents were robbed from Native Americans. Australia and New Zealand were robbed from the Aborigines. Instead of paying these robbers, Chinese who buy up houses and lands in those countries should pay the Native Americans and Australian Aborigines. On the other hand, European countries often do not provide naturalization processes for foreigners to become their citizens.
I'm very lucky that my wife's family were accepting of me almost immediately. They are very open minded and only wanted the best for her despite me not having a lot of disposable income (living in Australia is expensive.)
Even though we don't currently live in China we still try to help out when we can by giving red envelopes when we can but I think they appreciate us visiting them more than anything.
I think it's important to remember that although a lot of Chinese do care about money and social status, there are still people that value family before everything else.
Basically no Chinese care less about family than of money. The very first thing Chinese family looks up when you're dating their daughter is the divorce rate of your home country, the first thing they ask is if there are divorces in your family. In most cases, you can consider yourself discriminated against before your income ever comes into the picture, thanks to the factors mentioned above that you have no control over...
Quite a generalization.
Mate,let me tell you the truth.You got accepted so quickly is because you and your wife will be living in Australia.It would makes more sense if you are an Australian.It would have been totally a different scenario if you came from a poor, developing country somewhere in Africa.
@@georgedang449 that has to do with status not family.
A very objective wrap up of this part of Chinese culture. Thank you for the good work.
I must be the exception to the rule. I got married to my Chinese wife in Tianjin last year. No dowery, and I was immediately accepted by the family. When we travelled in China my wife insisted on paying for some of the expenses. I am currently working on getting my wife permanent residence status in my country, but I wouldn't mind living in China. So far all my experiences in China have been quite favourable. I owe it all to you and your videos. A big thanks to you Serpentza
man the story about your African friend was so depressing, very similar to my situation. I'am glad everything worked out.
China is just not a pleasant place or possible home for any Afro-Chinese couples. I'm glad I moved out of China with my husband.
A dowry is money that a _bride_ brings to a marriage to offset the financial burden that she represents to a man. If _you_ paid to get her, the term is _bride-price_.
It's used both ways. Only in India does the bride's family pay large amount of dowry, to the detriment of the women there.
Well, 60 years ago it was a custom in my country for the bride's family to pay the dowry as well. Nowadays nobody does that but in most if not all the weddings we do bring White envelopes (with money) for the young couple.
George Dang Yeah India is pretty backwards & filthy place, i also read somewhere they are a multi-lingual & multi-cultural society unlike China which is homogeneous, too bad "multiculturalism" doesn't quite seem to work everytime !
Ironically, China is homogeneous because so many different groups decided to say they were all the same.
TRUE DEAR , INDEED THEY LOOK THE SAME ALMOST :)
“say”
Funny way of saying forced and genocided
@@christopher6337 China didn't just invade other places, it was invaded and conquered many times, and the invaders usually assimilated. There were cases like with the Dzungar and Sogdians where there was mass extermination of peoples but the majority of cases were instances of gradual assimilation. To even be Han Chinese is a loosely woven fabric, it could be pulled apart if people pick at it too much.
Every mother in law is mean
But much better than Italian
You get to live through your arguments
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. I am a Chinese and I enjoy watching your videos, u probably been to more places than i did, and all those adventures u did in China are fanatics. I believe u will make way more money if you took advantage of the big market in China than just posting videos on RUclips. Remember u are living in a country full of people that want and like to see your videos.
+Anhao Xiang thanks mate
Can you do a video called "How to stay Awesome"???
First, you need to buy the VHS tape :D
first move to china.
Wear a suit, and be the orginal youtuber of a big ass country
Yes, I want to know, too. I'm really awesome, sometimes. The hard part of awesomeness is consistency.
My Chinese wife and I plan to get a divorce in China while remaining together in Canada. After you have a kid all the paperwork is too complicated, especially when I can't be in China with her.. . Plenty of Chinese divorce out of convenience to get around bureaucratic regulations or buy a second home.
She probably got tired of your u* ass face.
I think this guy is getting sick of China.
he's full of shit, a typical slimy morally signalling Westerner, China should deport him
@@jasonphoenix1 Haven't you been terminated yet? Have to get the time travel department on that ASAP...
@@jasonphoenix1
You are truly nasty.
+Bucky I don't blame him.
@@jasonphoenix1 cringe level is over 9000!
Your videos are very helpful for me, and ironically my Chinese wife. She's lived in the USA since 2007, but her parents were here for the past 4 months and she realized how much stress comes from traditions and expectations from her culture. She's very outspoken, and engaging with other cultures. When she first got here she didn't stick to the Chinese clique, as I have seen many folks do. She made friends with folks here, went out and learned about the culture and really dug into learning about the world. Her largest group of friends are actually immigrants from India, who are just a ton of fun to hang out with, and very generous folk.
Like you mentioned toward the end, I think studying and learning in the west has changed her mindset. However, in a certain respect, traditions here in the USA aren't really that respected anymore. Its a bit sad in certain ways, as some tradition gives you a sense of heritage, and can be fun. On the other hand, they can be quite burdensome and outdated. There was a time when a dowry might have been needed or your parents living with you after you get married was required. Now, at least in the USA parents provide for themselves by planning for retirement so that stress and expectation is lifted from the next generation. There are always extenuating circumstances of course.
My wifes mother for instance, has zero plans for retirement and having had the conversation with her about what her plans are, she thinks she'll be able to work when she needs money. That's not really the life you want to live ya know? And not to mention, elderly getting a job that pays enough to live on might be scarce. Most folks don't want to hire elderly which is unfortunate. Age discrimination here in the states is huge, my family has been the recipient of it, and its just disheartening to see highly educated and experienced people who can make a difference turned away just because they're not 30/40 years old.
So - my question to you is - how is your wifes family dealing with retirement? Do they have plans to move in with you? If not, like my wife and I, are you squirreling away money knowing they'll need help as they grow older?
This guy has no filter. Love it
Here is my personal story. I was born in Taiwan and a long time US resident. I met a Beijing woman in USA about 24 years ago, got married. She wants ZERO kid and I would like to have at least 1. Mother-in-law never said anything.
sorry bro. But I think you know why dont you?...just saying
你的故事的点是什么呢?有那么多女孩你不找,非要爱一个不要小孩的。
I am married to a chinese lady in The Netherlands for 9 wonderful years now, never wanted to get married in China. Working here and spend holiday in china works fine for us.
You guys combine entertainment and information in a unique way and keep me interested through all vids so far. Would be great to meet you and c-milk in Shenzen next year as i will shoot video's ahout china myself while exploring the foods.
Odd question though, does Churchill Customs do scooter custom builds?
Churchill Customs is unlikely to exist anymore considering that serpentza and cmilk are both no longer able to work in China. Building and selling custom bikes/scooters would qualify as working.
Have you got a link for that? why would they ban e-bikes?
Ik ben ook blij dat ikk in NL woon
so if he loses his channel he loses his wife
I'm glad my girlfriend is a chinese girl from singapore, much less stress :D
btw love your channel mate, stay awesome and greetings from germany!
Agreed 200% hahah I'm Singaporean and the china chinese are mostly seen as pain. Sad some of them destroy lives of some of the singaporean guys, really an eyesore over here.
karu210586 the gouvernement of Singapore calls your wife take contraceptive pills
Nope I dont feel ashamed of something that is generalized, so the shame is on you cmon dude, seriously. Maybe when you reach maturity and common sense then open that gob of yours
Since when did Carmen generalise. The 5 cs just quoted the local men in singapore. If you say they are the most materialistic then tell me about their very poor marriage rates in singapore since you love the wiki so much. Tell me why are they still living in government flats or even why are there still residences in these flats? Don't make yourself sound silly by quoting their version of 5cs when you practically dont see the whole picture. Stayed in Singapore for 8 years.
+Ooshi Sasha he's a singaporean male possibly got rejected by their own, his icon shows it all lol
Sweet Mac try china chinese women, easy to get lol
I think your Chanel is great ! I really like the Talks about it - China , Chinese and the way they living and get relationship with foreigners. Real good job , keep doing well ! I am from Brazil , Thanks
Winston, thank you for another video. Your honesty is refreshing.
+Charlie Adams it’s a pleasure mate
Although it sounds "commercial" the correct term is "bride price" because a "dowry" is the money given by the bride's family to the groom or the couple.
The same tradition exists in Thailand where my wife is from but when we married both her parents were deceased so there was no need for a "bride price" to be paid.
Even though I don't like things he say, but they are all truth damn it
You can work in China if you are married. You just can't work on a family reunion visa. You need to apply for a work in the same way that an unmarried person does. To get a work visa, you need to have a job offer for a position that you are qualified to be in. Getting hitched doesn't qualify you to hold any position. The family reunion visa doesn't have the same vetting process that work visas do. It only requires you to be related to a Chinese person.
You know, I really like and appreciate your honest and open videos of life in China. I find them very informative and entertaining, and gives me a real insight into life living there.
I really enjoyed this video! I'd rather hear the truth through the perspective of an outsider who is living there, rather than from some sort of propaganda machine. When the country's people are constantly asking you "China is great, right?" then you know thats a red flag of something being wrong. Imagine having a friend who constantly asked you "I'm a great friend, right?".
I married a Chinese citizen. After we got married, I was recruited by a university in China who sponsored my work permit in China. Worked out great for us. My spouse's family warmly accepts me.
Hi Winston. My wife and I traveled to China august 2016 and I found the older people to be more racist. The younger generation seems less racist. Even with the wide language gap I could understand certain words like a taxi driver calling me a stupid foreigner, in chineese, very angry. However, the Chinese people living in my country, in certain areas like where I live are not racist at all and love hearing about my trip to China. We did make a friend in china who we still email often. Also some people were very surprised that we were so white they wanted to take pictures with us and them. I can't wait to return and hopefully we can meet up. Love your videos, but it does make me miss china alot.
Scott Wade I apologize for the taxi driver, what u said is true, older generations tends to more racist because they're educated that way in that certain period of Chinese history. However younger generations like me is under a whole new education system right now, we are not racist at all. So when the older generations passed away I am pretty sure things will get much better.
Schrodinger‘s Cat I will admit from all the countries I've been to around the world china was my favorite I can't explain just something about the whole place that I loved. Can't wait to return
Slightly misleading title - you can get a working visa when married but when coming on a marriage visa you're not allowed to work. Also, you can get a green card here after 5 years. Source: Got married here and I'm working here.
I think it was click bait. He knows the reality and even explained the situation clearly in at least one other video.
However, a commenter here said you can't get a work permit if you're over 60 years old, so if you're over 60, it's a truthful statement.
Green card allows you to live and work in China
My wife's from Sichuan province her parents were very poor but her grandparents were able to move to a city I still can't pronounce, Panizilila or something like that. She stayed with her grandparents and was very cultured. After she graduated college she became a police officer and resigned to marry me. I still feel like she gave up a lot but she seems very happy. Her parents did want a dowry however she was very angry since she never lived with them and I was basically ordered not to pay by her grandparents. That being said we do constantly get asked about babies from her grandmother. I live in the bible belt however I am not very religious myself. Her family was very surprised to discover an American man who had traditional values similar to their own. I still open the door for my wife and drive as much as possible but I did make sure she learned to drive and had a car here in the USA as soon as she got here. Her being able to feel safe and independent was my first priority. I do wonder if her grandfather is one of the "uncles" you talk about though in your videos.
I think "dowry" may be the wrong term for what you intended to say. A "dowry" is money or property (very often a plot of land, though typically much smaller than the land inheritance the bride's brothers expect to receive) provided by the bride's family (generally by the bride's father, or by her oldest brother or other male next of kin if her father is no longer living) and is *theoretically* intended to ensure that she will have a little something to fall back on in the short term if her husband dies, though in practice it's just what the new couple uses to get themselves started. In the West this has been largely supplanted by the "bridal shower", which is basically a crowd-sourced version of the same thing. If the man is paying money to the woman's family, the term for that is "bride price", i.e., the price paid for the bride. This too has been largely obviated in the West. (The custom now seems to be that the bride's family pays for the wedding and gets nothing in return, other than possibly a chance at grandchildren.) HTH.HAND.
So, when do we get to see mini-Winston-or-Sasha ? 🤣
...will the baby come out wearing a suit, saying "Welcome to another video" ??
ThrobbinHood hahaha
ThrobbinHood Lmfao
ThrobbinHood
Or Stay Awesome.... 👊🏽
@R-Mon, so long as there was a thumbs up :)
He is South African Jason Statham in China
*living in China*
The Perambulator. (He's always walking around.)
Without the muscles or good looks
You really can’t compare Taiwan with the PRC. For all intents and purposes, it is a different country. I lived, married, and worked there. Similar language and culture, COMPLETELY different government and system!
What stands out to me in all of these videos and similar videos is how quiet everyone is. No one whooping in the background trying to get on your video, no one speaking loudly on their cell phones or walking around with their faces buried in their phone, not a ton of honking horns or loud mufflers - everyone just seems mature and respectful of one another, but strangely very curious about the guy making the recording. It's a lot different than I imagined China to be.
As a Chinese, I have to admit that Serpentza speaks out the truth.Some traditions that still exist are very strange even for me.Wish you good luck in China!
Winston I love you bud
I'm Chinese Canadian. Although I visit China occasionally, I never learned about the inner workings of Chinese society or experienced the rapid economic changes firsthand. I'm able to get closer to my cultural roots by watching your videos. I'm sure you will reach a million subscribers in no time and thank you :).
I am Chinese and live in China, it's quite true that money is god here. The main reason I think is that Chinese are less religious, people have no faith in their heart and how to survive is the most important thing in their mind.
Klaudia J. We are atheists ,that's it,and USA are becoming one
As an Atheist, your theory is only a theory.
Religious people are also quite materialistic but they will never admit that and often hide behind religion as an excuse to be greedy.
It's not religion, just because atheists don't believe in god it doesn't mean they are heartless or "evil". Atheists have basically the same values as the religious people from the same area. Human values are typically determined by the region they were born in.
This video didn't show up in my sub box I find it on my home page
odd, thanks for finding it
same!
China bribing RUclips :thinking: ?
Very cool video Winston..feels like I'm actually there everytime you discuss happenings in China. Good luck on your journeys
we do a similar thing with the red packet here on the island of Cyprus (Greek side).. normal friends and just guests give over 50 euros, close friends over 100, best man and family over 500 euros. The bride and groom plus parents stand at the entrance of the reception to welcome the guests, on saying hi you give the envelope to the groom then you enter.. sometimes the lines are very long and the groom and bride plus parents will have to stand there for over 2 hours shaking peoples hands before they to can join the wedding.
You are actually wrong here regarding Hong Kong. As a foreigner without Chinese descent, after living in Hong Kong for like 7 years. You can not get a SAR Passport., Instead, you become a Hong Kong PR(permanent resident). Because Hong Kong passport is just a subcategory of Chinese Passport. Taiwan is a Little different here, some one like you, is possible to join ROC citizenship.
Things Ive learned from SerpentZA videos:
homogeneous
Even a Chinese boy won't be accepted by his wife's family if he is poor. Is that racist?
sim ray
Tras de ladrón, bufón.
Its interesting how you change your wordings from when you were actually living in China versus today. It really shows how even when things were more lax you had to watch what you said
I feel very lucky to have married my Chinese bride. She had never been to the West, but she was very open minded. I didn’t go through many of the things you described. Yet, we didn’t marry young. I was 50 and she was 43. Both of us were divorced. Both of us already had children. Both of us decided that we didn’t need more children to cement our marriage. We live in the U.S. and have a happy marriage. Her family readily accepted me. They are Northeast Chinese from Shenyang. I don’t know if that makes difference, but I have yet to see a video from Winston on the Liaoning Province. Winston needs to get up there. There are mountains to climb. Gorges to walk through. An underground river to boat on. There are the botanical gardens. There are hotels built on natural hot springs. Shenyang is a city of about 8.5 million. Shenyang is a city that does have 4 seasons.
Is there ONE country in the world where money isn't the most important thing?
+Christoph Küstler I like to think that love trumps money
+serpentza For a second I thought you wrote: "I think I love Trump's money." - Need to clean my glasses. LOL :)
serpentza this is the first time I comment on your video, appreciate your effort showing us your life there in china but your generalizing is somehow misleading. in every culture people will consider economy status and social class as well as love when talking about marriage because most people in most cultures have that security need money can provide. As a Chinese person I think it has something to do with the social welfare of china. People can not really rely much on the government because the help government offer to the homeless and jobless is far behind countries in EU. Yes we also criticize people born in 50s 60s are so much hungry for money because their experience of poverty were so bad and their education were different( lack of good education). However things are changing for people born in 80s, 90s and after 2000, people spend more time in what they like, they don't actually worry much about money because their parents will give them whatever they have. If your parents-in-law also care about your income and saving that doesn't mean they want take money from you, they just want to be sure their daughter will not suffer from poverty, they want to be sure their grandchildren will be well taken care of. If you meet their expectation, fine, they will support you. You will not be surprise one day they will give all they have to your wife and you. That is Chinese people's marriage view. You can not just say people are only chasing money. Also, many of my friend born in 80s get married with the support from parents from both sides, because the one child policy a marriage for a man and woman just like merge of two companies. some of them may confront a harsh mother-in-law as you described in the video. Sorry for your friend, I am sure it happens in every cultures of all beliefs. China can not be an exception.
+Joe Chow You phrased it right. Love is just love, and it can make you happy or unhappy, but marriage is a contract. What's the point of marriage, if you are not willing to compromise for the physical well being of your partner FOR LIFE? Love doesn't feed you, love doesn't give you shelter, love doesn't give you healthcare. Money does!
你应该也是中国人吧,说的很好,感觉up主虽然在表达他的真实想法,但是没有去想其中深层的原因,某些东西的第一印象就左右了他的想法。
My brother is of Georgian and middle eastern descent and his Chinese in-laws love him and all my family. They came here straight from China to visit and the loved all of us.
Editing is 2 good
U desereve more subs
Last drone thing when u were talking 2 the camera n it flys off it was freakinnng awsum
N u look like tom ford sumwhat
Luv ur videos
Same wedding traditions in Serbia. You expect the people who invited you to their wedding, to go to your wedding. You record how much they give so you give them that back too.
I think you began to touch the deep aspect of traditional China.family plays a very important part in everyone's life.but above all,that's the elder generation.young generation has their own understanding of life.just remember to have mutual understanding when it comes to the old and the young.We all have our own definition about what happiness is.
If I was married to a Chinese woman, and staying there, I would be selling tons of Chinese stuff on eBay.
GeekBoy03 how would you accept money? heh
wkdravenna it's called Paypal
GeekBoy03 I do that now but only on Amazon
There is a website called taobao. It's Chinese Amazon. You cannot compete with it.
I checked it out, and there is no way to decently use it if you don't know chinese. So, its not really a competitor, it has a different market.
*Takes one look at smoking hot wife*
That's why you put yourself through this hell.
Great video!!! I married a Shanghainese girl and everything you said is true. Its all about the money, status and me me me. She divorced me after we had a first child and after I just bought her a $2M house in Australia. I got financially raped and our son looks more white which is what she wanted.
I'm not,surprised Chinese mother 's teach their little girls how to work on males on the sex department since very young ,specially on western males they fall for it like "flies on the honey"pay dearly including their hearts and wallets.
Divorce is rape for us men, their is no benefits of marrying as a man until you are in your late 20s / 30s and have a good relationship
So sorry to hear that. I am Shanghainese girl. I met my husband almost ten years ago. That time both of us didn't have anything. He didn't need to by me a house to marry me. And he proposed me without a ring but with his words, that was like 8 years ago. Now we are still together ❤ I wish and I believe we could go all the way to the end. Not all Chinese girls are like that. Actually I know many more cases/couples around me are just mine/us. But I don't deny the reality is that the majority of Chinese girls requires this and that and these and those to get married. I hope she let's you to see your son. Cheer up!
Dee Man - not surprising.
Jeessuuss… the same thing happened to me. I married a Shanghainese woman, had two daughters (both look white), and she raked me over the coals for every penny she could beat out of me. However, when she started asking for a divorce, I refused to sign or agree to anything, and when she tried to take the case to the local courts, they basically told her she has to get me to agree to something, which I absolutely refused to do unless she gave me custody of my two daughters, and allowed me to take them back to California with me, and sell our home in Shanghai and split the money - neither of which she could agree to, so we are technically still married and she can't hustle another person until she figures out how to get me off her back. We've been legally married for 22 years - 1997 to 2019. It's all about the money for sure. Another vid that should be made, is about custody of your children while they are residing in China with their mother, regardless of the fact that they are American born citizens. According to the Chinese law, the Chinese citizen automatically has custody while they are in China, and cannot be removed by me unless she gives absolute permission - the US Department of State calls this "International Parental Abduction," and is a very complicated situation.
That was far from a boring topic my friend. Insight into a foreign culture, no matter the country is allways enlightening. Thank you for your endeavors. Cheers for sharing.
In america, chinese couple dowry is really symbolic only so usually is only 999$ or 9999$. Mainland chinese people are probably more traditional because here in america chinese men are not expect to pay for the car , or the house, or the furniture. The couple will have a mortgage and most of the couple will not live with the in law. But the expectation to have grand child are the same here...so if your mother arrange a blind date with the best prospect she find and you want to refuse: after the date your mom will ask you. So you like him? You: Yeah, he is a very honest person, he told me that he might have fertility problem but his family is not aware so don't tell his mom...and your mom never talk about him again and your mom will eventually refuse any other date with that guy on your behalf!
Dude get out of China. I lived there for one year, and I can see it is affecting you in a bad way. South Africa is tough, but home is home.
Aasinp I just lost all respect for this guy. He needs to get the hell out of there.
Aasinp UK, sure UK will offer more opportunity later this year, post-BrExit , u will see
Dude he can always come to the States.
As a foreigner, if you're confident your wife loves you, you can put your foot down. Saying 'no' when your mother in law demands a grand kid, or tell her you won't discuss it or it's your body. Secondly, it's better to marry a girl who lives away from her family, i.e. I live in BJ and my wife is from Zhejiang. Perfect. I get to keep her parents on a leash and we visit maybe 3 or 4 times a year
About the racism, it blew my wife's mind that my parents didn't give a shit about the race of the girl I was marrying. The first question my parents said is 'does she make you happy?' nothing at all about 'Is she from xyz' 'Is she black?' 'What's her job?' etc. I wish Chinese parents could change to this thinking.
About the dowry, I do not understand this, and for this reason. The idea is you are taking her away from her family so you should pay, HOWEVER, the Chinese girl's family will still want to live with you, and expect you to pay for everything and possibly extract money out of you. I also do not understand that, if you marry a younger girl, say 22-23-24, then their parents will mostly be providing for them in larger cities. I.e. paying for any hospital stays, possibly travel, everyday living etc. however once you marry that responsibility changes to the husband. So you're essentially paying a dowry to then have to pay extra living costs for your wife, blows my mind.
Finally, about the wedding hong bao, in my case we married abroad so we didn't have the whole 'how much did he spend on their huge wedding?' bullshit floating around her hometown, however I've had friends who paid a lot for the wedding, then held it, and his wife's dad insisted on collecting all the hong bao and my friend didn't receive anything from it. Money is god here, more than anything else.
+Adam Proctor exactly, my first wedding my mother in law collected all the hongbao for herself and I had paid for the wedding, I was furious
Damn, I would have been fucking livid. It seems that Chinese always go for whichever situation helps them monetarily the most. I.e. in the UK we split the wedding in half, in China they insist on the Chinese way if the man is marrying a Chinese girl because they save money. Normally they would give the couple a car or house, however if marrying a foreigner the family won't buy such gifts. Etc.
I think Chinese goverment should give you a green card or accept you as a resident. You did a very great job in China. You let the world know the real China. Do you know Marbury? He used to be a NBA player now play basketball in Beijing. He has get the Green Card. He is a citizen of Beijing.
Not considering a marriage to a Chinese women but I find your insights helpful. I have a Philippine step mother so I can understand where you are coming from.
Stay awesome and keep them coming.
Excellent video Winston, I'm sure it was just what some were looking for. No doubt it saved many hours of reading/searching the web for reliable info on the subject for untold numbers. Bravo!
You got that right money is God in China.
xin zang pretty much any where in the world except China is more straight upfront as they waste no time
Danny Koh damn right, got a chinese wife and she’s straight up about that and i like it, but we both bring $ to the table and we’re good.
I wonder how an Indian grooms family and a Chinese brides family would discuss the “dowries” I wish to see those discussions
Do you feel like you might be 'asked to leave china soon'?
it's not boring at all even though i am not in a relationship with a Chinese person. great content, keep it up!
Winston, you have allowed me to understand my girlfriend's country and culture more better. I can't thank you enough for this. Every evening, we watch your and CMilk's videos... and talk about visiting her family next year. Before I was scared of China, and now you have made it more palatable and approachable for me.
+KimcheeeeFire it's a pleasure mate
I miss the days when Winston used to put NORMAL titles for his videos instead of CLICKBAIT titles put in CAPITALS? Does anyone agree?
+urban dweller When it's your JOB you have to TRY for views
Fair enough. Just thought I'd let my opinion known as well :)
Maybe the family was afraid he would steal their bikes.
TheGuyFromSweden i thank communism party destroyed the tradition value! Finally, i get the real freedom. Not posioned by traditional clan and Confucianism any more! But i donr want to be posioned by Christian or islam either! Religion and tradition are poison! I am proud of being secular modern and i thank you communism party!
Winston's clickbait title game gettin' strong
Stick to 40 second billowing videos. You're very good at that. LOL
Great Vids man,fair and honest,and the landscapes are great!
The reason I subscribed is because I find your talks so interesting. Thank You.
It is a natural selection. If you can not even afford the cost of getting married, that indicates you are not driven enough, smart enough, hard working enough, etc. If there is any other way to measure if you are good enough for the family, maybe they will take that way. But right now, money, a measure of success and hard work, is the primary indicator in the natural selection, Chinese style.
Am I am the only one that is not attracted to chinese women due to surplus in general. Chinese men and women take up like 25% of the world. Just not a rare enough commodity.
Might as well not be attracted to women, they take up 50% ;) But then again, men do also...Maybe a unisex then.
Now it's reduced to 20% due to one Child policy and low birth rate.
actually, 18%
I am oversea Chinese and I too can't get China citizenship. Is that racist too? :)
Lee umm. I would say yes, darn it, yeah
I am married (in china) to a chinese girl since 5 years after I have study there for 1 year. I am going back to China next week I got a short stay family visa (less than 6 months) but that is good for 7 years (rest of my canadian passport valid time).
It is so much easier get family visa than a tourist visa. If you want a tourist visa, you need the roundway plane ticket, all the hotels bookings. You can't buy a roundway ticket and tell them you will buy train/bus tickets and hotel booking there since it is cheaper.
With the family visa, I just need to get my wife parents invitation letter and my plane ticket and that's it. Also, since it is good for 7 years, I don't need to ask for a visa everytime I go there. Just buy the ticket and go China. Same price as for tourist visa but you get multiple entries. :)
Commendable effort. Looks like you are now the most authentic information base and reference point for China for travelers
What's with the clickbait titles recently
Yeah, they are annoying
壹貳 he has always had click bait titles.
What's clickbait about it?
to draw people in of course. Don't blame a man for trying to be clever
It's called RUclips algorithm.
I was wondering what it'd be like for a South East Asian to be in China? I'll be studying in Guangzhou, a little bit worried bout that
Best of both worlds and less public scrutiny like they say.
Elle E. Chinese here, I promise you'll be fine especially if u are college student, you'll make a lot of friends there. However, most of the time people will expect u to say at least a little bit Chinese if u look like us, which u do.
Schrodinger‘s Cat you think judging from my photo I look like you guys? I'm super excited to study in China, I've always been a fan of Chinese culture (not a lot of Filipinos think like me) but what sets me off I guess is if I have to face racism because I'm a "jungle asian" so to speak.
Vanda Dimitrova how so?
Elle E. East or south East Asian always more easier to blend into Chinese community if they can understand basic mandarin like Winston did, and one of my best friends is Vietnamese. It's not about racism. Just people simply more comfortable with someone looks like themselves.
What is keeping this guy in China if things are so bad there??? Is he being supported by his Chinese wife?
Hey Serp, ( questions below ).
I was offered a promotion within my company which involved moving to Hong Kong so I've looked around for American China channels. Found yours and ADV then started binge watching all your videos and some of C milks and I have to say it's very eye-opening and an overload of useful information. Its nice to know I won't be alone over there. Maybe I'll run into you guys..yea right. Today I'll binge watch ADV China as well. Just subbed to all 3 channels. Keep up the good work. On the topic of all the haters that seem to follow you ..I can only say it makes things more interesting and from everything I've seen you just tell it the way it is. Every country has its problems and you talk about SA's many many problems..USA as well. Its not like your picking on China, you just LIVE there and most of these things aren't known to foreigners like me bc of the media unlike here where everyday its something bad on the news..that said, it's very insightful. Anyways, love what your doing and the quality of the videos is top notch. Are you having a meet up in the foreseable future?
Cheers from the U.S. of A. (Oregon).
Ps. When are you guys going to the sensitive parts of China? Have you got your goal on Kickstarter? (maybe an update is in order). I'll have to donate to your cause if it's not too late mate.
Love your videos. Always awesome. I’m dating a Chinese woman from Taizhou so I can relate to many of your videos. Thanks for keeping it real. Stay awesome.
Hey Winston, when the heck are you having a baby??
LOL
Pot Ate Toe He’s not allowed to have a baby? The government would want to keep it for themselves.
Your wife is insanely beautiful
My girlfriend of 4 years is Japanese but is very westernized. I didn’t start dating her just because I wanted an Asian girlfriend, but just because we happened to click. I would advise people not to go to date a Chinese or Japanese person just because of their nationality, because with that mentality you’re probably not going to set yourself up for a healthy relationship.
The immigration law for marriage it is so outdated in China.
Joshua Wei Chen it would seem that : deep history = deep-rooted laws/ practices. Those roots going to take a very long time to pull up.
@@jackdearden9451 you have very good point.
Serpentza should get an honorary Masters's degree in Sociology. I went to a wedding in Romania and the "gifts" to the newlyweds were in the form of envelopes. Now, hear this. Right after the dinner reception eating, the master of the ceremony goes up to the podium and opened up envelopes, and announces one-by-one each of 200 family's name and how much each had donated to the wedding couple. The amount usually covers the dinner and some. Some families gave quite more and got special praises.
Not boring at all! its very interesting to hear that china is so different than my country!
I love how naive you can be about woman's nature. Those "old traditions" were in long lasting societies implemented to protect men from women destructive behaviour. Everywhere those traditions were destroyed, countries are imploting. Until those countries learn the lesson once again, after reaching deep bottom. And sometimes they die in this road to hell.
You hit the nail there. Why democracy is a system doomed to fail and only accelerated with the women’s vote.
@@TRYCLOPS1 that is not democracy, that is republic (alias election). In democracy you vote, in republic you elect.
But that's right, election (same as socialim) enforce dysgenic behaviour and thus give more power to women, accelerating the way down to hell.
you like chinese beauty ?
I'm married to one
serpentza I guess that's why "serpent" is in your name - you're smooth af 😂
serpentza make sure your wife sees this 😂
Chinese are very practical people. If you marry the daughter , she must have good life . It's Universal .
Karen Saunders so practical,like human trafficking do you know it ?
welcome to another wee di ou!
Man, respect that you have made your passion your job. We can all learn something from that. Thank you
Your a cool dude I enjoy your videos I have no plan to move there but I like the topics. Keep up the good work