What Does Tesla Do With Old Batteries?
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Cars as we know them have been around since the early 1900s, but for over a century we have been burning fossil fuels at an alarming, almost careless, rate. Only in the past decade have we seen the electric vehicle market really taking off.
However, all EVs draw power from large battery packs placed deep beneath the car, hundreds of times the size of your latest smartphone’s battery. Have you ever wondered what happens to them once the car reaches retirement age?
A ban on petrol and diesel cars is fast approaching for many of us, meaning electric cars are becoming a much more common sight on our roads.
What happens to tesla batteries once they go bad?
....I watched the entire video and I know absolutely nothing about what tesla does with old batteries. Thanks.
Yes you are right
Yeee
@@robertlee6338 And then what happens when the cells break down and the contents leak into the ground?
@@robertlee6338 Bullshit.
There is a company with a environmentally friendly process to recycle Lithium Ion batteries. The process recovers close to all of the valuable cathode material ready to go right back in a battery manufacturers front door. The large battery manufacture's are well aware of this company.
Tesla has likely know of the company for several years but as it is with all large companies decisions are made at a snails pace. I'm thinking Tesla is and will continue to be slow to properly recycle its batteries. Tesla has never been a company about the environment, as usual it's all about the money.
I believe the company's process will soon come to the market place but as to which company will pull the trigger first, that is the billion dollar question.
Good to see a video on potential battery recycling! Its an issue too few are thinking about.
Elon Musk is one of, if not the most, innovative person on the entire planet. Always thinking 2 steps ahead!
Have you ever heard about these people called scientists?
i don't think you know this. But the guy just owns the company, and he memorizes a script to make himself sound smart. I am sure he is decent at coding but he is definitely not the one behind most of teslas and his other companies' ideas. Search up JB Straubel patents, that guy and most likely some other people probably came up with most of the teslas slightly more innovative designs(judging by his patents). Elon musk is more of a mascot, his awkward personality appeals to most losers and makes people who don't pity him, great marketing tactic. But you shouldn't put the person on a pedestal, cause in reality he isn't all that smart, probably the dumbest person working in all of his companies.
Nope
@@rasithwnninayaka1633 totally agree with you
@@rasithwnninayaka1633 @Rasith Wnninayaka Have you ever read his autobiography? As a kid he was super smart, they called him a living encyclopedia and this is all before he was 10 yrs. As a young boy he learned a programing book (By the author it should need 6 months to complete) in 3 days (he was insane), he got to college and after that he found internet companies which made him millions. The people on high position in his company call him a super-smart man because he is in touch with engineers and actually design parts/test them and participate in assembly. By his words he spend 80% of his time in a factory ENGINERING things. HE is not a typical business-man he is an scientist who doesn't care about money (you would understand this is you read his book) and the greatest visionary because he made it HAPPEN. (what have you achieved?)
The things you take for granted,someone else is praying for them
I am worried one side it big environment friendly e vehicles if degraded batteries can be utilised or disposed in a best way
There is a company with a environmentally friendly process to recycle Lithium Ion batteries. The process recovers close to all of the valuable cathode material ready to go right back in a battery manufacturers front door. The large battery manufacture's are well aware of this.
Tesla has likely know of the company for several years but as it is with all large companies decisions are made at a snails pace. I'm thinking Tesla is and will continue to be slow to properly recycle its batteries. Tesla has never been a company about the environment, as usual it's all about the money.
I believe the company's process will soon come to the market place but as to which company will pull the trigger first, that is the billion dollar question.
I think you’re the ambassador for TESLA
definitely not bruh
@@sosa_es2721 it’s a joke
Tesla's work speaks
Each of his tesla video is a huge ad
I love how you stated that the amount of lithium in car batteries is the big issue and not you know the amount of lithium in every single person's pocket on the planet that is absolutely not recycled and is actually the big part of the problem....
This video is cool
the video is about tesla not phones
Well then you should listen to what Tesla is actually doing and recycling then ruclips.net/video/U2P9FoeWmzw/видео.html
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Shutup you muppet
As a kid of the 80's in Nigeria, we also watched Space 1999 and looked forward to it. We're now in 2020 and everyone protesting and bombing each other.
@@JohnFekoloid well after cold war ended , energy to explore space diminished, since SpaceX entered and created cheaper ways to go into space now things are getting existing, And Wars are not start in future since most of the countries have Nuclear weapons.
but worse is just yet to come
@@yuchenliu6062 🤔
6 minutes and 31 seconds of what Tesla doesn’t do with old batteries.
Car companies are not involved in the recycling of the vehicles they manufacture. Never have been. The EPA can require that manufacturers make products out of materials that are recyclable, and Tesla is doing that. Battery recycling is already happening, although Tesla's batteries are lasting a lot longer than anyone predicted. There are many Teslas on the road today with more than 250K miles on them and still using the original battery.
Who else was expecting like a childs bedtime story about batteries? Lol
I really love the editing of this video. Its amazing. Thank you for the content ✨
1:19 your claim that 5% of lithium ion car batteries are recycled is misleading. LiOn packs still work after the car is scrap and go onto second life projects. Used battery packs command a high used price, demand is high and supply is low.
I think he meant overall lithium batteries, including electronics. I personally don't know what happened to my old phones...
@@pauliusvindzigelskis2224 No one cares much about tossing a small past it's prime iphone and the battery it contains, whereas a (normal petrol car) battery is big and more tangible.
Offer a refund fee for the battery module core.
What about the electrical grid, that has to also keep up with the increasing demand
Good point
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Electric energy can sourced from green energy like wind and solar
@@visvivacnckenya1620
Wind and solar are not green! They both take rare earth materials to create the generation.
They strip mine to get those rare earth materials!
Hopefully one day they can create green energy.
My VW old batteries go to the Old Volks Home. 😂
Don't you mean the old 'Volts' home......
My question is, whats gonna happen with all of the classic manuals as well with cars running on diesel or petrol... if e-cars take over.
Tesla should consider collaborating with American Battery Technology (if not done so already) to speed up the revolution of recycling.
SI units Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It all sounds like good PR but I’ll believe it when I see it
The issue is EVa are still more carbon heavy to make and the electricity is from coal and oil we really need more new nuclear power plants they are the greenest way to make lots of energy
Where’s my future millionaires at?! 🙋🏻
Here!( I hope)
I've ordered the CyberTruck tri motor fsd & getting ready to order the S dual motor as well..I've made enough with TSLA to buy both..I love Space X, StarShip & all ELON does..
Enjoy! The Model S is beyond amazing
Tabless cells don't necessarily give you any more energy density. That they do provide is more power, cooler operation, quicker charging, more efficiency, and better thermal management.
It’s early days really. Early Tesla roadsters should have a 4680 pack designed and made for them. That would be a good way to swap out their early batteries and provide material to recycle. Same with packs on S and X. 4680 replacement for their original units. Once they have been swapped out then all earlier cells would be recycled into 4680 and all cars would run standard cells. 2170 packs should all go to home storage units until the earlier ones are finished then they can create a process to recycle 2170 units until they were used up.
By standardising on cell type as soon as possible, the recycling process can be made very efficient.
Free replacement..would be worth it
This channel is so amazing. I’m just bingeing through all the videos
I'm interested in knowing how much it cost to get rid of an ev at the end of its battery life. Seems a taboo topic.
Huh, just discovered your channel and two videos on Tesla, I'm already in love! Great content, knew 90% of your video's topic but the way that you presented it, made it easy for me to enjoy and later share to my less technical friends! Thanks TechVision!
Redwood materials, search for it. Founded by former head of engineering in Tesla.
Exactly what I wanted to mention. JB Straubel will dominate that market since hes way ahead of the curve.
Yep big business opportunity more companies should do it as well.
How do oil companies gather all of the exhaust that is created from every drop of gasoline they sell?
You mean the plant food that CO2 is?
@@SweBeach2023 it’s a joke
Well done! It is worth noting that one of the pioneers in lithium-ion battery recycling is J.B. Straubel, the former Chief Technical Officer at Tesla and Elon Musk's original business partner. Straubel founded Redwood Materials, a Nevada-based company specializing in the recycling of lithium-ion batteries. All of the elements found in these batteries can be reused in the manufacture of new batteries, and the cost of recovering those elements is substantially lower than mining new elements from the ground. This savings provides a financial incentive for EV manufacturers to use recycled materials in the manufacture of new batteries.
Great work
03:04 It's not the case in Chile where all of the mining companies are switching to hydrogen powered vehicles.
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I seen another ev with battery modules in case of bad cell. Very smart idea. Easy to replace a one of the ten modules in a battery pack.
In the EU there exists a producer responsibility to make sure their products are recycled.
This is the producer or importers responsibility and concerns Chemicals, Plastics, cardboard, paper AND BATTERIES.
It works like this...
There are companies that work with recycling, in the case of batteries the importer/producer declare amount and type of batteries sold each month and pay an amount/Kg and type then the recycling association takes care of the rest (collection and recycling) so it is already going on.
In the case of EV batteries they are mostly being stored at the moment and will be so for 2-3 years while building up recycling capacity for this kind of batteries.
There is the possibility for giving EV batteries a "second life" as storage for another 10+ years before recycling but the volume of batteries has to go up quite a bit before this industry get going.
If so many EV batteries are being scrapped, how come I need to pay $1,000 for a used Tesla module
Because even if one battery is bad in the Module you need to replace it Because just one bad cell makes the Module worthless
@@adalmartinez2340 Even a bad module could be torn down and the single cells sold.
Where do the ingredients used to make the batteries come from. This is a more important factor. As demand increases the sources say it's the rain forest for example will be under tremendous stress
I'm a regular fella on a very regular wage. I buy very used wheels when the one I own blows up. Just the other day I bought a 1997 Corolla for $400 , well shy of any EV dreams I have
Excellent work for EV’s and our future 🌍
Basically everything is recyclable if people actually want it to happen.
Li-Cycle currently is North Americas largest battery recycler
Advanced battery tech should mitigate this issue. Trouble will be with countries that do not recycle or dispose of responsibly.
800$ to recycle a 20,000$ pack seems cheap to me. cost of materials has to be over 800$ for a 85kw pack..
India and 2030, I think you got it wrong there mate. It must be 3030.
VW have a battery recycling plant now up and running. The video is on here......
They "responsibly" dispose of them
Currnt price of buying an EV is far too much for most people even with government rebates so the issue of recycling their batteries is mute to most folks.
Everyone is so concerned about EV batteries going to landfill. As it is now it is so difficult to get used EV batteries that you pay over half the price of a new battery for a second hand one. They are being repurposed for energy storage to the point that recycling plants can't get enough to operate unless they refuse to give you back the old battery.
I'll gladly pay the cost to fully recycle my car's battery pack on purchase. Let's say it's an extra 1000 euros to the car on purchase. It's nothing compared to it's overall price... But it means a lot to the environment.
Market demand for recycled battery materials will take care of this. Recycled elements are considerably less expensive than elements mined from the ground, and they work just as well in new batteries.
All manufacturers was learning in copying for last 20 year from lexus in Toyota to create electronic cars
Yes. When my S batteries die around 2031 that owner can recycle and trade for a new recycled battery pack!
NOTE: Tesla recycled batteries are now available as replacement golf cart batteries. Thanks for info.
Charging will be a headache for people .
When my Model X can only hold a 50% charge, I will move the battery into the house as backup powerwall at 50 kWh. I have a powerwall but only 14 kwh. So the old car battery could be used another 10 years then recycled
Very good instinct l also do it with my old batteries of my ebikes l can used them all night free of 12v lights in single charge for a month for another 2years before the old batteries totally busted and can also runs my tv and electric fans for 4hrs using an inverter during brownouts how helpful they are just make full the used of it in an ecofriendly way.
It's funny how this doesn't even touch upon the most obvious and yet single best option of simply disposing of the batteries in the ocean.
I was surprised to hear that Tesla isn't doing that much to recycle batteries
Have you wondered what duracell or energizer has done on their end? Lol
@@xxrodrmanxx No, but Tesla is known for doing things specifically that are evironmentally friendly, or more safe, even if they aren't *that* much of marketing tactics
Nice video.
Yes recycling of lithium from lithium ion battery is necessary for next generation
Like through solvent extraction process
Speaking of battery 🔋 , what is the cost to replace a battery in electrical 🚗
In House Solarbattery? Where weight and place is not so important then in a car? First thinking of my.. I'm curious what the solution will be
Well you’re limited by volume in homes. Grid storage would be better
Shouldn't even be making anything like batteries without a plan to recycle them in place. Then a backup plan for that.
I can't believe Tesla has been in business long enough to have "old" batteries..
Yeah those are rare cases, or Tesla's that where driven quite a bit more than the average. Otherwise even the old Tesla batterys are still holding up well.
Largely they do not. Tesla battery packs will easily last more than 2 decades of typical use, and that's continuing to improve. Reason why is extremely high battery cell and pack manufacturing quality and excellent battery management systems.
Title is something but content is from Tesla.
It seems like the whole world is rushing into subsidizing these ev to reduce oil consumption. But are there true urgency into the recycling part? Or, the possible environmental impact of these battery disposals?
Yes, unless these batteries are recycled, there is nothing renewable about them. It's no different form fossil fuel, its another none renewable materials. When we run out we run out. Plus, the battery dumps are highly toxic to the environment. Same thing with those electricity generating "flowers" aka wind turbines, each blade is 10+ tones of fiberglass and epoxy. Which after 10-20 years go into landfills. Sadly, so far all these products are only great for making money, not the environment.
You didn't mention what happens to the battery acid.
Nonsense! It is impossible to fully recyckle batteries!
Recycling should be compulsory for every EV manufacturer as it is a grate threat to environment.
'Recycling' would be the go-to word in almost all industries, in 2040s and beyond. Nature won't let us waste her resources for our ever-increasing desires, and get away.
5:55 How is that expensive? 650 dollars per 85kwh? That's about 7 dollars per kwh, to recycle. Currently companies sell batteries at around 100 dollars per kwh. This is a huge difference compared to 7 dollars.
It seems a no-brainer that a battery is a far richer ore for the needed metals than anything we can dig out of the ground.
Seems incomplete to not juxtapose the $650 with the cost of newly mined materials for the same size battery.
The first google result says $22/kWh for raw materials.
85kWh x $22/kWh = $1870
recycle yes important but not a deal breaker. no 80% charge 300+ miles in under 5 min- yes a deal breaker.
interesting movie
thanks a lot
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Yes..but not a billionaire who leaves the state, CA, (which set the priorities for the upcoming EV market,) to Texas to avoid paying taxes and an apparent grudge against a governor who was, as Covid was burning through the US and locally, placing the safety of people over production of car...so from, less than a full picture, that’s my response.
I love how this video promotes electric cars while at the same time explaining the futility of them.
Right now a used car battery are being sold for profit and reused. Net zero approach for batteries is coming. Small commute cars will require small batteries. Such as city cars like smart for 2. The benefits of EVs are now 10 fold in places that produce electricity from renewables. like a lot of California homes that do it with roof solar panels. And Norway and Iceland that are 100% renewable.
@@ThorfinnurPetur
Renewable except for the large amounts of coal and rare earth minerals required to build them.
Why don't they add battery charging system on the car itself
What happened to solid state batteries,that was supposed to replace lithium batteries. you don't hear about them much anymore.
Awesome indeed..!!
What about materials used for terminal insulation gaskets.
I don't see, AT ALL, how using electric cars is reducing pollution. I mean, if you aren't burning the fuel on the car, you are probably burning it at thermal plants to feed the power grid. Renewables can't support the power grid even of small countries, so coal and petroleum derivatives are still used quite a lot.
While yes, you can certainly use renewable energy with electric cars, which you can't with petroleum based cars, I don't think that it's sustainable if everyone started to use electric cars.
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Yes
Ok. Ok. We got the point. Do not buy, eat or put in the ground any batteries.
If it’s not air pollution, it’s something else.
Recycling tax should apply to eV purchasing.
Bruh NOBODY sends li-ion batteries and the like to landfills. There's a huge used market for batteries. I'll actually volunteer as a "landfill" for whoever wants to throw these away and I'll repurpose them all if that's the case, which it's not because, again, used batteries do hold quite some value and get sold instead of thrown away
just look at my channel to see what we are doing with old EV lithium battery cells.
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Definitely check out jehugarcia! Awesome channel for tech heads and novel battery solutions explained practically
Lowkey promoting lol
Good job
Recycling is the future
I'm just waiting for the 25k Tesla. They have the best battery packs so far.
How many TW has the gigs factory used?
I would want to buy from a manufacturer that recycles as much as possible - because whats the point of an electric car if it ends up being as bad as a petrol car after when end of life is included.
Where can I buy Tesla used batteries?
this thought came to me a while back, i like the video
This film seems to be totally sponsored by Tesla! A warning to viewers!
Why no NIO?
Same place phone batteries have been going the last 20 years no?
I would rather buy hydrogen vehicles, I guess :P
Problem is that the cheapest source of hydrogen is fossil fuel.
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as an indian no way mister it will not be full electrical or anything dude I thing after 100 decades
Bhai agle 10 saal mein hi India mein electric vehicles ka revolution aa jayega
The day Tesla enter in India it will revolutionize the whole industry with innovative competition
World largest fleet of electric three Wheelers is already in India
You need to do some research before spreading fake news abt yr nation
Major car makers like Tata, Mahindra, MG motors , Hundai have already their electric vehicles on sale in India and selling them beyond their expectations it's avery good start and others like Maruti Suzuki are working on their electric car models & will launch soon
As an Indian I humbly request you to please don't tarnish your & my country image without doing any research
Cloth hats love that kind.
3-500,000 miles is a large difference
we have the battery recycling technology.
Electrical Mobility is the End off the Freedom!
Yeah
Why Tesla is not using Metal-Air battery!