I showed my husband this and he remembers lugging two of those bandoliers around when he was training with the Black Watch in Gagetown N.B. in 1968. They weren't for shooting, just lugging and were considered a big nuisance. When they did get to open some at the range he said the ammo often showed signs of green residue even then, so its not surprising that 55 years later it would be a bit sticky. Never thought he would see one of them again. They used to fill the cups with sand and make ashtrays out of them.
Thanks, it's always interesting to hear from someone who used these back when they were current issue. Also interesting to hear that they had the problem with that residue on them even back then when they were fairly new, I guess that might be why they appear to have been discontinued. Clever turning the empty ones into ashtrays.
It's rather obscure stuff. Most of the people who are familiar with it were shooters at DCRA affiliated clubs in the 1970'-'80 when it was used for target shooting.
In Western Canada, the DA ammo was replaced by IVI by ‘72-‘74. Along with the change in headstamp came the change in packaging. It went from the vinyl packed to packed in US style cloth Bandoleers and 50 Cal ammo cans; 2 cans to a wood crate. In the BCRA, the last of the old DA ammunition was reserved for the Provincial meet, but even that was gone after one year.
Thanks for the comment. I suspect you have never heard of this stuff as it appears to have only been made for a short period of time in the 1960's then phased out, so it's a bit obscure.
Very cool! I would think packing them like this has to make distributing the ammo faster in a combat situation, and it makes carrying additional ammo easier. Never heard before that a C1/C2 can be stripper clip loaded, that's a pretty cool feature.
The stripper clip/charger setup on the FN -C1and FN-C2 rifles was a handy feature, although the result was a bigger area where dirt and crap could enter the action of the rifle.
Not in 303 so far as I know. Those were in either thin canvas bandoleers or in cartons. It was in the manual that the soldier was to save the charger after reloading if possible. This may have been as a result of resupply with cartons of ammunition rather than bandoleers.
I know I'm a little late for this. .303 brotish did come in paper wrapped 10 round bundles and they also came in 32 round boxes that if I recall correctly were for competitive shooting.
Dominion Arsenal, like all the Government ammo factories, had a C with a government property arrowhead in the center. So it would have a DCA headstamp rather than DEA.
That is not the case with any Dominion Arsenal produced 7.62 NATO I have seen. It is marked "DA" like the ammo shown in the video. 30/06 produced by Dominion Arsenal can be head stamped as you have described, but I have never seen a 7.62 NATO round by Dominion Arsenal marked as you describe, and I have examples going back to the late 1950's.
It was discontinued as they found that the vinyl attacked the brass and it was causing malfunctions in the C1 rifle. The paper liner you have didn’t show up until 1964. And the cartridges towards the solid vinyl were green as grass.
@@314299 IIRC, the vinyl Bandoleers had two straps that you had to tie together To loop it around your body. As with things made of vinyl, these knots had a tendency to loosen unless you pulled them really tight. The cloth ones have a continuous strap and a safety pin to shorten it if needed. In the example in the video, your straps were removed and that was where the lot number was burned in to the vinyl in a dot matrix. This may have lead to strap breakage, but I never carried it in the field as all our unit did was range training. Btw, Your ammo, made in 1965, would have been a lot number in the 470-510 range.
I know a lot of Canadian made 7.62 was bought by the USA for use in Vietnam, as for this type of packaging being used for US contract ammo I have no evidence one way or the other.
@@314299 my father who fought in Vietnam had some of these when I was a kid . After you showed the video it was like a light bulb . I don’t remember if his had ammo in them but I remember seeing them and being like wtf is this goofy thing.
I showed my husband this and he remembers lugging two of those bandoliers around when he was training with the Black Watch in Gagetown N.B. in 1968.
They weren't for shooting, just lugging and were considered a big nuisance.
When they did get to open some at the range he said the ammo often showed signs of green residue even then, so its not surprising that 55 years later it would be a bit sticky.
Never thought he would see one of them again.
They used to fill the cups with sand and make ashtrays out of them.
Thanks, it's always interesting to hear from someone who used these back when they were current issue. Also interesting to hear that they had the problem with that residue on them even back then when they were fairly new, I guess that might be why they appear to have been discontinued. Clever turning the empty ones into ashtrays.
Thanks, I have never seen or heard about this configuration.
Some other countries used vinyl storage cartons/bags, but I think this pouch system is unique.
Yes, that was very interesting, I've never heard about this type of Canadian packaged ammo. before!
Thanks.
It's rather obscure stuff. Most of the people who are familiar with it were shooters at DCRA affiliated clubs in the 1970'-'80 when it was used for target shooting.
In Western Canada, the DA ammo was replaced by IVI by ‘72-‘74. Along with the change in headstamp came the change in packaging. It went from the vinyl packed to packed in US style cloth Bandoleers and 50 Cal ammo cans; 2 cans to a wood crate. In the BCRA, the last of the old DA ammunition was reserved for the Provincial meet, but even that was gone after one year.
These ammo unboxing reviews are so addictive.
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If only I had more ammo to unbox....
Why have I never heard of this? Great video. Thanks for showing. That was really interesting.
Thanks for the comment. I suspect you have never heard of this stuff as it appears to have only been made for a short period of time in the 1960's then phased out, so it's a bit obscure.
Very cool! I would think packing them like this has to make distributing the ammo faster in a combat situation, and it makes carrying additional ammo easier. Never heard before that a C1/C2 can be stripper clip loaded, that's a pretty cool feature.
The stripper clip/charger setup on the FN -C1and FN-C2 rifles was a handy feature, although the result was a bigger area where dirt and crap could enter the action of the rifle.
Very interesting indeed! Wonder if they made these packs in .303 British as well?
Not in 303 so far as I know. Those were in either thin canvas bandoleers or in cartons. It was in the manual that the soldier was to save the charger after reloading if possible. This may have been as a result of resupply with cartons of ammunition rather than bandoleers.
I've never seen the vinyl packaging for anything other than the 7.62 rounds. As for .303 I've seen only 20 and 48 round boxes and cloth bandoliers.
I know I'm a little late for this. .303 brotish did come in paper wrapped 10 round bundles and they also came in 32 round boxes that if I recall correctly were for competitive shooting.
Always interesting, thanks!
It's rather unique packaging and that makes it interesting.
I've seen plenty of the vinyl "battle packs" produced by several NATO member countries, but not not this bandoleer style. Interesting.
I have one of those Austrian 7.62x51 battle packs waiting to be opened, another loan for the purpose of doing a video.
Wonder if that's made by Hirtenberger.
@@slowhand1198 Yes, I believe it is made by them.
Good stuff. If I recall, it runs a bit on the hot side.
Waiting for test.
The ammo is now back with the owner. I'll see if I can trade him some other ammo for some to test.
Dominion Arsenal, like all the Government ammo factories, had a C with a government property arrowhead in the center. So it would have a DCA headstamp rather than DEA.
That is not the case with any Dominion Arsenal produced 7.62 NATO I have seen. It is marked "DA" like the ammo shown in the video. 30/06 produced by Dominion Arsenal can be head stamped as you have described, but I have never seen a 7.62 NATO round by Dominion Arsenal marked as you describe, and I have examples going back to the late 1950's.
Very interesting to see Canadian bandoliers being made out of vinyl, thought they'd just make them out of fabric like the US and other countries.
They did not use this format for long and eventually went back to a regular cloth bandolier.
Good video as always
Thanks David.
Interesting, never seen this before!
I'm not aware of any other similar packaging, there must have been some reason that they discontinued it's use.
314299 Shooting Channel I bet they simply found that loading from stripper clips were out dated.
It was discontinued as they found that the vinyl attacked the brass and it was causing malfunctions in the C1 rifle. The paper liner you have didn’t show up until 1964. And the cartridges towards the solid vinyl were green as grass.
Good stuff, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it.
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It's certainly unusual packaging.
Used in the 70's in 1 PPCLI Prefer the cloth ones!
Interesting. What made the cloth ones preferable over the vinyl?
@@314299 IIRC, the vinyl Bandoleers had two straps that you had to tie together To loop it around your body. As with things made of vinyl, these knots had a tendency to loosen unless you pulled them really tight. The cloth ones have a continuous strap and a safety pin to shorten it if needed. In the example in the video, your straps were removed and that was where the lot number was burned in to the vinyl in a dot matrix. This may have lead to strap breakage, but I never carried it in the field as all our unit did was range training.
Btw, Your ammo, made in 1965, would have been a lot number in the 470-510 range.
neat stuff 👍
Thanks.
Cool 😀
Thanks.
Friggin neat
Glad you liked it.
Used in Vietnam
I know a lot of Canadian made 7.62 was bought by the USA for use in Vietnam, as for this type of packaging being used for US contract ammo I have no evidence one way or the other.
@@314299 my father who fought in Vietnam had some of these when I was a kid . After you showed the video it was like a light bulb . I don’t remember if his had ammo in them but I remember seeing them and being like wtf is this goofy thing.
That's nice UwU
Thanks.