If this project become BIG, pls dont forget that it should be fun, cause some people really missed that out, it looks more than fun, it looks like concentrated fun
Not even done with the video im only a minute in but MAN the passion in your voice is so great to hear. THIS IS THE REASON this game is so good. Fans making games for fans
I really love the comic book art style, I think we should see that artstyle pop up more in the story telling... Like comic book panels, 3d panels and such, that would be amazing!
Car swinging seems like it would not work but it’s easily the best traversal that is included. And that’s hard to say because there’s plenty of competition. Great work you guys can’t wait to see when it’s finished.👍
I think that one of the things i most wanted to see in a Spider-Man game was an open world that doesn't try to be a realistic depiction of New York City or something like that, but something like the batman Arkham franchise that created his own fantastical and fictitious city (Gotham) with its own aesthetic of being gothic and dark, and the level design can just go nuts, like in the sunset overdrive game that makes the city a big playground with a lot of things to bounce of and bars to ride, I think it would be really cool if you transferred this craziness and ridiculousness that you put in the animations and mechanics into the map too, and all over the project to be honest, incredible job btw (sorry for the English, I'm not American)
i love what you guys are doing your exploring your creativity to creat something truly beautiful theres a saying that gose creativity is hard work with childlike thinking. the car swinging and the cool animations is something that game developers wouldn’t dare to do however u understand what the fans would want in a traversial game giving us so much variation and options is so refreshing where most games are restricted by its realisim. i love the original spider design and you guys should keep doing what you do, i also think tho that although this is amazing i can understand how some of the fans might not be interested because its not assosiated with spiderman, i think u guys should do your own thing cause when you dont have limitation your able to make something as cool as your own designs i do hope that you could at some point down the line take the swinging mechanics to make a fully fledged spiderman game. i love the original concept of your character but i definitely think you will got more ppl sucked in if u made another game with same mechanics in the world of spiderman or at the very least have alternit suits in this upcoming game with the spideeman suit and with the previous animations and abilities. it would be the best of both worlds in one game giving every fan what they want whiles exploring your creative freedom in the game, is this something you might consider?
dawg i been watching yall make this game for a WHILE and im so HYPE yall finally get to drop the demo, BUT if yall do end up dropping a whole game id DEFINITELY buy it. good luck homies
It would be cool as a mechanic that you could toggle the spider legs. If you're in normal mode you have a moveset and you are quicker and if you have the legs you're a bit slower but have different moves
I thought that u guys are doing a great job. A game like web of shadows or with a story of venom and knull would be insanely good, because your version is with a really good mechanics compared to the other. This game would be perfect for pc and i belive more in this project that in the insomniac
This is one of the coolest indie games I've seen... ever. I won't say "I hope the game comes out someday" because I can tell by the fire in your eyes that the game's release is imminent. Since you now have your own character and IP I have a couple questions and ideas I want to voice: 1) "90% spider, 10% human" - then let Crawley be mute and let him communicate with the others at first as a spider, in the process of the game learning gestures and grunts remotely similar to the simplest words (like "yes", "hello", "bye", "thank you" etc.). 2) Is Crawley more of a villain or hero in this setting? Since he picks up cars with innocents for stunts only to throw and blow them up without the slightest hesitation, I can assume: either he's like a kinder version of Godzilla (i.e. Captain Planet inadvertently crashing skyscrapers to stop the evil Kaiju), or he has no concept of morality yet (based on the first point), or he's the new Alex Mercer altogether, or it's a game convention like in Ultimate and WoF. Based on all of the above, the second idea: if Crawley is more of a hero, then when picking up a car, he breaks the door windows and, while performing stunts, throws the driver and passengers out of the car, sticking them to the sidewalk or at most on the roofs of skyscrapers and houses. 3) Idea for stealth: spiders, lacking a sense of hearing, rely heavily on tactile and chemical senses to interpret their environment. Crawley is 10% human, so let him hear. But if you're going to add Eagle-vision, then let the enemies have a large clouds of pheromones around them instead of the trivial outline arond their bodies, which are always far behind them and slow moving and in order to learn their clearer location, Crawley should actively crawl on all his legs emitting circles of vibration as in scenes with Toph in ATLA (for an example in games I can remember Mark of the Ninja from Klei Entertainment), but it will still take some time for these circles to reach enemies. And since the spiders can't hear, then during Spider(?)-vision, ALL sound is silenced and we hear only the amplified stomping of Crawley's legs, thus achieving the following goals: 1 - by tweaking a long-used mechanic to suit your own liking, making it memorable; 2 - through all of the above limitations, adding “High risk - High reward” and uncertainty to the mechanics, which the player should approach wisely, not use as a legal cheat. 4) Add wallride to sewer manholes and street signs. Add a special vertical wallride for the vehicles (of course, player can steer the car in his desired direction). 5) A very controversial idea for game mechanics, I can see that many people may not like it, but I'll voice it anyway: hunger. In that one story, which was later adapted into a horror short film, the local Peter Parker after a spider bite acquired an insatiable stomach and ate everything from mice and pets to people. Also, the diet of spiders directly affects their behavior. Hence the proposal with this mechanics to make it the same as in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, but instead of blood, Crawley will have the opportunity to eat human food, ie steal or buy hot dogs (or eat them for free, as payment for saving the seller of hot dogs as in the canon of Spider-Man) on a par with food from garbage cans for biowaste, or as eating pets, birds and all sorts of rodents. I think together with such the mechanic of hunger there should also be the mechanics of morality for Crawley and public opinion of him... 6) Fighting as in WoF. Probably asking too much here, but still I've been waiting 14 years for full Combo Mad on skyscraper windows. Just copy enemies from there, Prototype 2, DMC1 and we're golden. 7) A setting different from the usual New York like Batman Arkham games or Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, free from expectations and comparisons to a hundred other games and one of the main reasons why average Joe gamer will buy the game. Because at the end of the day, that's what you make the game for. I spent two hours to transfer all my incoherent thoughts into text and I'm bursting with desire to stimulate the development of this game somehow. If I had any useful skills and experience for game development, I'd be knocking on your door until you'd hire me. Good luck with the game!
Consider vertical split for the multiplayer. Alternative is to have the screen divided in a 3x3 grid, assigned top left and bottom right 2x2 to each player, with the overlap cell being split diagonally, and use the extra top right and bottom left cell for ui.
before i say anything, you guys really rocks with this project! keep up the good work! i know this is still far in development, but i think you could add unlockable skin so we can distinct ourself if we play multiplayer. but don't sweat on it. also, i have an idea for the combat, from what you've shown so far, it's utilizing the spider leg for almost every move. and i get that you are trying to get away from a certain spider and human combo *wink wink*, but it would be neat if he can also throw a follow up punch or kick so the human part can still have a role in the combat. the traversal looks bonkers and i can't wait to try it out! if it's possible, can you also do the car landing part, but on the side of a building. so it's like because of the velocity you can stick the car to a side of a building and drive it for couple of seconds before you jump from it and the car explode. idk maybe that's too tedious. so sorry i can't support you directly because living in 3rd world country is hellish, but i will always keep on the look out for any updates from y'all!
Thanks a lot dude! Car on walls thing is the same mechanic we have for skate on walls. Thats one of the mentioned currently missing animations for car swinging. We have nore humany things for combat but not a lot. Maybe we can add in the future. Regarding skins, There is already some skins! Spexfically for co op! Great shout thanks a lot
So sick to see this game's gonna be it's own thing from now on! Loving everything shown so far, especially Crawley, he looks incredible. Can't wait to see more! 🔥
First time finding this project. It looks really Great and really fun. The monster/Mutant design of the main character make me think of prototype, and picking up cars and destroying it, i could se a fun mini game where you just destroy as much as possable in a small amout of time or even just surviving waves of cops. could also see it be a skate game
i love what you guys are doing your exploring your creativity to creat something truly beautiful theres a saying that gose creativity is hard work with childlike thinking. the car swinging and the cool animations is something that game developers wouldn’t dare to do however u understand what the fans would want in a traversial game giving us so much variation and options is so refreshing where most games are restricted by its realisim. i love the original spider design and you guys should keep doing what you do, i also think tho that although this is amazing i can understand how some of the fans might not be interested because its not assosiated with spiderman, i think u guys should do your own thing cause when you dont have limitation your able to make something as cool as your own designs i do hope that you could at some point down the line take the swinging mechanics to make a fully fledged spiderman game. i love the original concept of your character but i definitely think you will got more ppl sucked in if u made another game with same mechanics in the world of spiderman or at the very least have alternit suits in this upcoming game with the spideeman suit and with the previous animations and abilities. it would be the best of both worlds in one game giving every fan what they want whiles exploring your creative freedom in the game, is this something you might consider?
Spiderman is a copyrighted content. Only copyright holders like insomniac games or select few gaming companies that marvel wanted to work with can use that character.
I. CAN'T. WAIT. I would love to see an option where you can swing on two webs at once and switch between them, It would add fluidity and it'd be SUPER cool!
LOVE how far this game has come. So glad y'all pivoted away from a fan game to something original. It allows for more creativity💯🔥 Also I love the new energy in your vids😂 AND HELL YEAH to Car Swinging😤🤟
I just discovered this channel and it didn't disappoint 🙌🎉 The game looks super fun, movement is so smooth and the animations are extremely good! 👍 Good luck with your game! You earned a new sub❤
Really really awesome mean. It’s inspiring seeing stuff like this at it’s really impressive that it’s just you two guy working on it. Keep it up man there’s a huge audience for this kind of stuff obviously so just know whenever you are feeling discouraged we’re all excited about this and supporting you
What for sure would be cool for the Combat is Dynamic damage/ Healing,. So that when he takes damage he looks roughed up and Battle damaged, but with healing returns to default :)
Youll should turn this project into a full on game that would go so insanely hard and we could really use another web swinging/superhero city exploring ip. Indie games are blowing up given the lack of quality 3A games so it could really blow up hard. Oh and ye can we still glide ?
the progress has been insane. I remember finding this channel a few years back and being excited for the full release but seeing it now becoming its own thing with co op and interesting movement is so cool. Also when are you going to start creating your next character, i think you had a gliding character concept a few months back.
Please try adding gadgets like to help players like maybe double jump boots or rocket skates. Great game BTW keep up the good work although the new Crawleys head looks freaky it should ho a bit back to the spiderman vibe
I am stoked for this to drop, truly. I watch you and your work carefully and your passion is so inspiring. I love how you animate. Everything about the process is a joy to watch. I am so saddened that you have to step away from the marvel ip but I understand exactly why. I’m also slightly disappointed that you are keeping the spider arms displayed at all times, but maybe it’s just something I need to get used to. I can see how you are designing so much around it that it just makes sense to keep them open/displayed permanently. I haven’t been able to watch enough of your live streams so I apologize if I’m asking questions that you may have already answered several times: Will there be opportunities for multiple types of environment interactions when swinging? A couple that come to mind would be special swings around posts, trees, billboards, similar to the amazing Spider-Man rush ability? I know you were open to the idea previously, but will there be the ability to tear off a car door and surf on it? I checked elsewhere but is console release planned or just PC? Your other reply mentioned that you had web climbing at an earlier point and scrapped it due to the agility of Crawley. Is that canned or will it come back? I’ve always wanted super fast web climbing and given the evolution of this protagonist I can see how decently fast web crawling would be viable, if that can be done. I look forward to everything you have coming and keep up the excellent work my brotha! I’m rooting for you.
It would be cool if you could rip the roof of the car, then sit in it and start driving. Also, there should be animation for removing people from the cars while picking it.
u know what would be awesome? Is if you allow the player to grab enemies and throw them or whatever just like on spider-mans comic behind you that would be cool coz u would feel so powerful
Just a suggestion ! I feel like the co-op screen would be better if the screens were side by side instead of being on top and bottom so you could see better. Other than that, the other stuff is ridiculously cool!
Dude, if this project and the Propulsion one (a Flash-type game) end up making it, you guys will expand the super hero game scene, because one thing I don't like is, at this age it's either Marvel or DC and that's it. Man, I miss Prototype and Infamous. Good luck to you guys, I'll try to catch more Streams if I can.
The more tricks that you land and successfully do should add points to a meter on the screen, once this bar reaches 100%, you can use the ultimate when activated is a speed boost from the spider on the back (shoots web out like a jet engine) which increases the momentum of the player for a short duration, It could last up to 10 seconds, every 2 - 3 seconds there would be a clickable button on the screen in a random location that they must click quickly, if they don't click in time, the boost turns off, but if they do click it in time, the boost will stay on for an extra 2 - 3 seconds until another button appears until the 10 seconds is over, this adds a rhythm game element to the ultimate and challenges the player to multitask through traversing and maintaining a momentum boost. There could also be multiple changeable ultimate's, and each varying in rarity and type (traversal / offensive / defensive) and obtainable through challenges.
i have an idea, since it is not a fan game anymore, how about make him swing in an original city? maybe something with strange buildings, strange shapes and geometries? i think this movement deserves an environment as good as that
I was gonna say I think you should do something we can get alternate suits or different spider arms, just some more options to how your spider dude can look
We have some.skin ideas currently.mainly.based on different spiders. So you can be a tarantula or blackwidow etc.. But any kind of skin related stuff is way down the line there is so much that needs to be done before we do anything cosmetic
Looks awesome 👍👍 Can't wait wow😮🙏 I like little shaking of limbs when going idle trough the air, can we slap against a wall like a spider 😮 How about big charge jump from ground to a point Is it possible to run down a building Are the webs bit elastic like stretch abit down when swinging How about running around corners of buildings maybe he can loop corners like in Prince of Persia the artsy one Maybe a flip back jump like prototype could or Lara
# Genuine suggestions Could you consider focusing on giving our more means for destruction and chaos at some point? What boosts my enjoyment of Spider-Man Web of Shadows in comparison to other titles is the following: - Human NPCs can act afraid if you act chaotic - Human NPCs can be unalived by throwing cars at them - It is possible to partially destroy bottom part of each building - It is possible to throw cars in general - It is possible to destroy some environment objects This makes Spider-Man Web of Shadows feel closer to something's like the "Prototype" game series. Or even a bit like the Hulk game series (of course much less destruction, but still). So could you please add such elements? I'm not sure if you are going for a 'hero' vibe or not, but since there is car exploding already, I see no reason to not add this. Some players could always act less destructive if they want, I just ask for means for others, who want to have more fun. What I would see being added eventually: - Simple civilian NPCs which can act afraid if you endanger them. It should be possible to unalive them too by means like throwing cars at them, which would make them progressively more afraid (kind of like reputation). - Swinging into civilians with speed would make them ragdoll and get thrown around (like driving your car into civilians in GTA games). - An optional reputation metter. So civilians would either see you as a kind of hero if you act less destructively. Or vigilante if you act destructively and unalive NPCs. If the see you positively they wave happily when seeing you, if they see you negatively they scream a bit and try to run away / act startled. - If the reputation meter is low then maybe some special task force would try to hunt you down in random events. - Picking civilians from the around freely and throwing them around with ragdoll enabled (like in Prototype game series). - Maybe webbing random civilians, would be nice to be able to web them to the building or hang them somewhere to swing down. - Throwing cars from the ground. Like in Spider-Man Web of Shadows. Possibly exploding civilians and causing them to ragdoll. Possibly adding am "effort matter": If you release the button after picking the car fast then it is thrown on a short distance. If you release it over time (with animations of struggling) main character throws it at a much larger distance. Since he should show some effort if he throws some heavy car super far. - Some objects should be possible to be destroyed (gates, signs and such), objects in the city and maybe bottom structures on each building. - If there is a combat system with enemies then adding some of it would be generally beneficial. As you could use cars to throw at enemies, and then mid combat civilian NPCs could die too if you are not careful, or they would look afraid and run away. As for the co-op mode. This one is very important to keep. I'm not sure how to make the above suggestions work with it, but maybe you could make it possible for someone to host the game (kind of like in Minecraft) where the other person joins in, and the world reacts mostly to the primary player. You can also add some Spider-Man Web kd Shadows inspired brutal attacks. This game had some really decent animations at times. For example there is am attack working like this: Standing in place and shooting a single web/tentacle at your enemy. Then pulling them towards you, and when they are about to touch you, grabbing them by their neck, then snapping it. Generally it feels more powerful in person, like your enemy is some kind of doll, and you just gran them like this menacingly. Also the biggest suggestion, release it on android 5... Just kidding. 😈
This kind of reads like our GDD document :D We have pretty much planned for basically all of this. What you wrote is missing one big key element but I dont want to reveal too much before we can acctually back it up first. So tune in to the upcomign videos you are going to see a lot of things like what you wrote.
@@SarpSerter I'm glad to read this, similar elements would easily provide more fun. Especially in comparison to Spider-Man titles, which lack it for the most part. Spider-Man games have an enjoyable free roam because of swinging, whereas games like Prototype have fast city movement + destruction/chaos. Essentially another way of enjoying the game freely. Wishing you good luck. Hopefully I can start sculpting on my PC eventually to support similar projects (as I can do so in real life and always enjoyed it).
This looks awesome Sarp! You guys are doing a great job!! And I wanted to ask since you guys are changing some of the models and animations to move away from the spiderman ip, which is totally understandable of course, would the old models and animations be available as skins with the option to have retractable spiderlegs like how it used to be, in the settings? Personally I was a huge fan of the base Crawly with bandages and that cute smile and I’d like to play with his skin but no arms except when I choose to like before (and not to mention keeping old models and animations would make modding in the look of a certain controversial “friendly neighborhood spider-guy” easier). Also I reaaallly loved your guys’s model for said certain “spider-guy” in the past and I was wondering if since you guys probably aren’t gonna include his skin in the final game will you release those beautiful models for modders? And the webs look awesome with the cell shaded art style but would you allow the old webs to be toggled on and off in the settings for people that want a more realistic spider-guy feel? And my final question (sorry so many) will you guys keep the pizza parlor in the game as the site for races with that awesome music?
I think it will modding froendly which should answer most of your questions xD Crawly rig now comes with the legs.But we had sone designs where legs close on to his cjest and than he is back to a humanoid shape. It will have to be animated animated like that.
@@SarpSerterThank you for responding! I really appreciate you taking to the time to read my messages. And I wanted to ask will the models used in the past be released online for modders? And it’s great to hear you guys are planning on having retractable arms, I love that!!
Hi, so i was looking at the animations and the character animations look incredible. Perfect. But, the camera could still do a little more to assist with the fluidity i think. For example each leap the player makes has a peak speed and then there's a decay and eventually a smooth landing, right? I feel like if the camera angle and FOV would be animated to reflect that a little bit it would go a long way. I would love to see that tested out if you see it worth trying out
heres something i thought of just right on the spot.. what if you add like a random encounter of like enemy's but you can pick them up while swinging and throw them around and be able to skate on them like in spider man webs of shadows so be able to do tony hawk but with people
Some Steven He level with knockoff jokes :D "Do you have Spiderman" - "We have Crawley!" Its cool and all, but looks like a copyright infringement lawsuite in the making
Hello I’m very impressed with your work, did you guys implemented ragdoll physics ? Like for exemple if you fall or you run into a building the character has a realistic ragdoll or he just land on his feet like in recent Spider-Man games.
if there will be a combat sistem, i would like that you add web weapons combos, like in spiderman shattered dimensions, or also a symbiote system, but i think that is so ambitious
This game looks like so much fun. One note- the character design is great but I think its clothes/costume can be simplified. Just my opinion. His whole outfit is just very busy, lots of straps for no reason type of vibe ya know?
They should implement fatigue so that when Spider-Man catches the car, he gets tired and would have to let go of it, or else he would pass out. Por cierto hablo español
Great work just as always man. I highly suggested or recommend you check all-father's ideas on spider combat. I think that all father's ideas and your ideas if put together properly will create something awesome out of it. So please check out his youtube videos.
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A spider was bitten by a radioactive man.
"I was a spider bitten by a radioactive pig!"
This lore would go crazy
The spider wouldnt bite me so i bit the spider
Ok
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If this project become BIG, pls dont forget that it should be fun, cause some people really missed that out, it looks more than fun, it looks like concentrated fun
directly in the veins
Not even done with the video im only a minute in but MAN the passion in your voice is so great to hear. THIS IS THE REASON this game is so good. Fans making games for fans
Means a lot to hear that man.. Im not used to making weirds i was worried its cringe xD
I really love the comic book art style, I think we should see that artstyle pop up more in the story telling... Like comic book panels, 3d panels and such, that would be amazing!
THats the idea!
Wish you guys the best of luck! Been following your progress for a while, and this is incredible 🔥
Thanks a lot!
Car swinging seems like it would not work but it’s easily the best traversal that is included. And that’s hard to say because there’s plenty of competition. Great work you guys can’t wait to see when it’s finished.👍
I think that one of the things i most wanted to see in a Spider-Man game was an open world that doesn't try to be a realistic depiction of New York City or something like that, but something like the batman Arkham franchise that created his own fantastical and fictitious city (Gotham) with its own aesthetic of being gothic and dark, and the level design can just go nuts, like in the sunset overdrive game that makes the city a big playground with a lot of things to bounce of and bars to ride, I think it would be really cool if you transferred this craziness and ridiculousness that you put in the animations and mechanics into the map too, and all over the project to be honest, incredible job btw (sorry for the English, I'm not American)
i love what you guys are doing your exploring your creativity to creat something truly beautiful theres a saying that gose creativity is hard work with childlike thinking. the car swinging and the cool animations is something that game developers wouldn’t dare to do however u understand what the fans would want in a traversial game giving us so much variation and options is so refreshing where most games are restricted by its realisim. i love the original spider design and you guys should keep doing what you do, i also think tho that although this is amazing i can understand how some of the fans might not be interested because its not assosiated with spiderman, i think u guys should do your own thing cause when you dont have limitation your able to make something as cool as your own designs i do hope that you could at some point down the line take the swinging mechanics to make a fully fledged spiderman game. i love the original concept of your character but i definitely think you will got more ppl sucked in if u made another game with same mechanics in the world of spiderman or at the very least have alternit suits in this upcoming game with the spideeman suit and with the previous animations and abilities. it would be the best of both worlds in one game giving every fan what they want whiles exploring your creative freedom in the game, is this something you might consider?
Arkham Games are not games. They’re a feeling, an emotion. 😩
dawg i been watching yall make this game for a WHILE and im so HYPE yall finally get to drop the demo, BUT if yall do end up dropping a whole game id DEFINITELY buy it. good luck homies
Thanks a lot man
Very well done video! Sarp's youtube personality is finally here
@@JayyKemp You are in it too!
Imagine just chilling , then getting your brand new car stolen and blown up by a spider person
Okay the whole picking up cars thing makes me think that theres gonna be some good destructive fun and if so… im all for it, 10/10 lemme smash stuff
It would be cool as a mechanic that you could toggle the spider legs. If you're in normal mode you have a moveset and you are quicker and if you have the legs you're a bit slower but have different moves
I thought that u guys are doing a great job. A game like web of shadows or with a story of venom and knull would be insanely good, because your version is with a really good mechanics compared to the other. This game would be perfect for pc and i belive more in this project that in the insomniac
This is one of the coolest indie games I've seen... ever. I won't say "I hope the game comes out someday" because I can tell by the fire in your eyes that the game's release is imminent.
Since you now have your own character and IP I have a couple questions and ideas I want to voice:
1) "90% spider, 10% human" - then let Crawley be mute and let him communicate with the others at first as a spider, in the process of the game learning gestures and grunts remotely similar to the simplest words (like "yes", "hello", "bye", "thank you" etc.).
2) Is Crawley more of a villain or hero in this setting? Since he picks up cars with innocents for stunts only to throw and blow them up without the slightest hesitation, I can assume: either he's like a kinder version of Godzilla (i.e. Captain Planet inadvertently crashing skyscrapers to stop the evil Kaiju), or he has no concept of morality yet (based on the first point), or he's the new Alex Mercer altogether, or it's a game convention like in Ultimate and WoF.
Based on all of the above, the second idea: if Crawley is more of a hero, then when picking up a car, he breaks the door windows and, while performing stunts, throws the driver and passengers out of the car, sticking them to the sidewalk or at most on the roofs of skyscrapers and houses.
3) Idea for stealth: spiders, lacking a sense of hearing, rely heavily on tactile and chemical senses to interpret their environment. Crawley is 10% human, so let him hear. But if you're going to add Eagle-vision, then let the enemies have a large clouds of pheromones around them instead of the trivial outline arond their bodies, which are always far behind them and slow moving and in order to learn their clearer location, Crawley should actively crawl on all his legs emitting circles of vibration as in scenes with Toph in ATLA (for an example in games I can remember Mark of the Ninja from Klei Entertainment), but it will still take some time for these circles to reach enemies. And since the spiders can't hear, then during Spider(?)-vision, ALL sound is silenced and we hear only the amplified stomping of Crawley's legs, thus achieving the following goals: 1 - by tweaking a long-used mechanic to suit your own liking, making it memorable; 2 - through all of the above limitations, adding “High risk - High reward” and uncertainty to the mechanics, which the player should approach wisely, not use as a legal cheat.
4) Add wallride to sewer manholes and street signs. Add a special vertical wallride for the vehicles (of course, player can steer the car in his desired direction).
5) A very controversial idea for game mechanics, I can see that many people may not like it, but I'll voice it anyway: hunger. In that one story, which was later adapted into a horror short film, the local Peter Parker after a spider bite acquired an insatiable stomach and ate everything from mice and pets to people. Also, the diet of spiders directly affects their behavior. Hence the proposal with this mechanics to make it the same as in Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, but instead of blood, Crawley will have the opportunity to eat human food, ie steal or buy hot dogs (or eat them for free, as payment for saving the seller of hot dogs as in the canon of Spider-Man) on a par with food from garbage cans for biowaste, or as eating pets, birds and all sorts of rodents. I think together with such the mechanic of hunger there should also be the mechanics of morality for Crawley and public opinion of him...
6) Fighting as in WoF. Probably asking too much here, but still I've been waiting 14 years for full Combo Mad on skyscraper windows. Just copy enemies from there, Prototype 2, DMC1 and we're golden.
7) A setting different from the usual New York like Batman Arkham games or Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, free from expectations and comparisons to a hundred other games and one of the main reasons why average Joe gamer will buy the game. Because at the end of the day, that's what you make the game for.
I spent two hours to transfer all my incoherent thoughts into text and I'm bursting with desire to stimulate the development of this game somehow. If I had any useful skills and experience for game development, I'd be knocking on your door until you'd hire me. Good luck with the game!
Thanks for the input man great notes!
My friend, the games you make are incredible, I'm waiting for those games no matter how long it takes, you are perfect.
Grinding and swinging with the corpses of enemies while their limbs ragdoll and flap around
Web of Shadows vibes
that would be awesome, imagine swinging around on a enemy torso
Consider vertical split for the multiplayer. Alternative is to have the screen divided in a 3x3 grid, assigned top left and bottom right 2x2 to each player, with the overlap cell being split diagonally, and use the extra top right and bottom left cell for ui.
Wow! Blown away by how good this looks, wish all the best for getting it done guys, you're doing really cool and fun stuff!
Thank you!
That car mechanic looks SICK imagine being in a car chase and having a man-spider come and start lifting you off the ground and controlling your car 😂
before i say anything, you guys really rocks with this project! keep up the good work!
i know this is still far in development, but i think you could add unlockable skin so we can distinct ourself if we play multiplayer. but don't sweat on it.
also, i have an idea for the combat, from what you've shown so far, it's utilizing the spider leg for almost every move. and i get that you are trying to get away from a certain spider and human combo *wink wink*, but it would be neat if he can also throw a follow up punch or kick so the human part can still have a role in the combat.
the traversal looks bonkers and i can't wait to try it out! if it's possible, can you also do the car landing part, but on the side of a building. so it's like because of the velocity you can stick the car to a side of a building and drive it for couple of seconds before you jump from it and the car explode. idk maybe that's too tedious.
so sorry i can't support you directly because living in 3rd world country is hellish, but i will always keep on the look out for any updates from y'all!
Thanks a lot dude!
Car on walls thing is the same mechanic we have for skate on walls. Thats one of the mentioned currently missing animations for car swinging.
We have nore humany things for combat but not a lot. Maybe we can add in the future.
Regarding skins, There is already some skins! Spexfically for co op!
Great shout thanks a lot
Thank you so much for the ability to play co-op. The whole reason I play games is to play with friends, and so little games are co-op these days.
Seeing devs getting super happy at their own work is so wholesome
I just found this channel and this project. I cant wait to see it finished within all it glory cheers to your team.
So sick to see this game's gonna be it's own thing from now on!
Loving everything shown so far, especially Crawley, he looks incredible. Can't wait to see more! 🔥
First time finding this project. It looks really Great and really fun.
The monster/Mutant design of the main character make me think of prototype, and picking up cars and destroying it, i could se a fun mini game where you just destroy as much as possable in a small amout of time or even just surviving waves of cops.
could also see it be a skate game
We are working on a similar setup. Tune in for more!
i love what you guys are doing your exploring your creativity to creat something truly beautiful theres a saying that gose creativity is hard work with childlike thinking. the car swinging and the cool animations is something that game developers wouldn’t dare to do however u understand what the fans would want in a traversial game giving us so much variation and options is so refreshing where most games are restricted by its realisim. i love the original spider design and you guys should keep doing what you do, i also think tho that although this is amazing i can understand how some of the fans might not be interested because its not assosiated with spiderman, i think u guys should do your own thing cause when you dont have limitation your able to make something as cool as your own designs i do hope that you could at some point down the line take the swinging mechanics to make a fully fledged spiderman game. i love the original concept of your character but i definitely think you will got more ppl sucked in if u made another game with same mechanics in the world of spiderman or at the very least have alternit suits in this upcoming game with the spideeman suit and with the previous animations and abilities. it would be the best of both worlds in one game giving every fan what they want whiles exploring your creative freedom in the game, is this something you might consider?
Spiderman is a copyrighted content. Only copyright holders like insomniac games or select few gaming companies that marvel wanted to work with can use that character.
U can add skins selection which can give u more freedom to be creative and make beautiful skins like this one
Good luck with this coolest game I’ve seen in a while
Thank you!
with all the stuff you've added, i believe this can surpass the insomniac games.
it's looking REALLY good
take ur time, hyped for the demo!!
I. CAN'T. WAIT. I would love to see an option where you can swing on two webs at once and switch between them, It would add fluidity and it'd be SUPER cool!
loving the accurate web arcs, can't wait to do some huge loops
this guy's joy is contagious I need to play this game!!!!!
Please never give up on this game, it's very beautiful
i wont!
LOVE how far this game has come. So glad y'all pivoted away from a fan game to something original. It allows for more creativity💯🔥
Also I love the new energy in your vids😂
AND HELL YEAH to Car Swinging😤🤟
I just discovered this channel and it didn't disappoint 🙌🎉
The game looks super fun, movement is so smooth and the animations are extremely good! 👍
Good luck with your game! You earned a new sub❤
Also, I am really interested in the lore of the character, what is his backstory and such. Im gonna share this video with a friend of mine 😅
@@MarkoPiroski Thanks a lot!! Tune in for updates!
the swinging looks better than Spider man 2.
The punk rock music goes really well with this game, I think you should add some as background music. Music similar to games like Crazy Taxi!
Really really awesome mean. It’s inspiring seeing stuff like this at it’s really impressive that it’s just you two guy working on it. Keep it up man there’s a huge audience for this kind of stuff obviously so just know whenever you are feeling discouraged we’re all excited about this and supporting you
What for sure would be cool for the Combat is Dynamic damage/ Healing,. So that when he takes damage he looks roughed up and Battle damaged, but with healing returns to default :)
Acceleration sometimes feels a little unnatural, but other than that, absolutely amazing!
Between this and the oarkour game, the indie developers are giving me so much hope in the industry
Which parkoue game?
@@SarpSerter we both suck at spelling parkour XD... The Rooftop and Alleys game ❤️✨
@@jddesmore hahahah man.. I suck at typing. Yeah I have that game its really cool
@@SarpSerter You guys are inspiring ❤️
Bro, your art style looks soo good.
Youll should turn this project into a full on game that would go so insanely hard and we could really use another web swinging/superhero city exploring ip.
Indie games are blowing up given the lack of quality 3A games so it could really blow up hard.
Oh and ye can we still glide ?
It will come! Mechanics will.be a bit differenr but there will be wings yes
the progress has been insane. I remember finding this channel a few years back and being excited for the full release but seeing it now becoming its own thing with co op and interesting movement is so cool. Also when are you going to start creating your next character, i think you had a gliding character concept a few months back.
Crawley became all of those chracters combined. Cant wait to show that soon!
@@SarpSerter ooh interesting
He now looks more like rebel then a friendly neighbor
He is a rebel!
This... is remarkable.
To say respectfully? Insomniac are behind when it comes to CONTENT for Web-Swinging and Traversal in general.
Crawley’s design is just amazing
WOW this game have great and incredibly fun mechanics and gad damn the flow it had, good luck for the following update ^^
This is crazy I applaud you guys 👏🏾😭
First time seeing your game, this looks so rad. Subscribed! Keep up the awesome work!
Amazing!
The thing we always wanted to do in spider man games I swear hahah
Please try adding gadgets like to help players like maybe double jump boots or rocket skates. Great game BTW keep up the good work although the new Crawleys head looks freaky it should ho a bit back to the spiderman vibe
I am stoked for this to drop, truly. I watch you and your work carefully and your passion is so inspiring. I love how you animate. Everything about the process is a joy to watch.
I am so saddened that you have to step away from the marvel ip but I understand exactly why. I’m also slightly disappointed that you are keeping the spider arms displayed at all times, but maybe it’s just something I need to get used to. I can see how you are designing so much around it that it just makes sense to keep them open/displayed permanently.
I haven’t been able to watch enough of your live streams so I apologize if I’m asking questions that you may have already answered several times:
Will there be opportunities for multiple types of environment interactions when swinging? A couple that come to mind would be special swings around posts, trees, billboards, similar to the amazing Spider-Man rush ability?
I know you were open to the idea previously, but will there be the ability to tear off a car door and surf on it?
I checked elsewhere but is console release planned or just PC?
Your other reply mentioned that you had web climbing at an earlier point and scrapped it due to the agility of Crawley. Is that canned or will it come back? I’ve always wanted super fast web climbing and given the evolution of this protagonist I can see how decently fast web crawling would be viable, if that can be done.
I look forward to everything you have coming and keep up the excellent work my brotha! I’m rooting for you.
I saw the firs devlog and THIS PROGRESS AFTER ONLY 6 IS CRAZY
I liked it a little more with Spider-Man
Brother, it looks amazing, keep up the good work, you're great.
It would be cool if you could rip the roof of the car, then sit in it and start driving. Also, there should be animation for removing people from the cars while picking it.
this look so hype! I can't wait to see the day this game releases
Looks great. Can't wait to play this on my android device!
Blowing up a car with someone in it for a boost is craay 😭
u know what would be awesome? Is if you allow the player to grab enemies and throw them or whatever just like on spider-mans comic behind you that would be cool coz u would feel so powerful
pls add a skin with out the legs ik this isnt spiderman, but damn i just want to swing with a human like character, but the design is cool
Add climbing to the web while swinging so you can gain even more momentum when going through the city
this all looks AMAZING, but it would be really great if the arms were still retractable
Can't Wait To Love See I'm Excited!!!
You could add a move similiar to the black suit throw in WoS where crawley shoots and attaches a web to a foe and just slams them to any side
Just a suggestion !
I feel like the co-op screen would be better if the screens were side by side instead of being on top and bottom so you could see better.
Other than that, the other stuff is ridiculously cool!
Yup, This is already in process! Nice ahout thank you!
Dude, if this project and the Propulsion one (a Flash-type game) end up making it, you guys will expand the super hero game scene, because one thing I don't like is, at this age it's either Marvel or DC and that's it.
Man, I miss Prototype and Infamous.
Good luck to you guys, I'll try to catch more Streams if I can.
I am PRAYING the webswinging wont be jank, this could be MASSIVE
The more tricks that you land and successfully do should add points to a meter on the screen, once this bar reaches 100%, you can use the ultimate when activated is a speed boost from the spider on the back (shoots web out like a jet engine) which increases the momentum of the player for a short duration, It could last up to 10 seconds, every 2 - 3 seconds there would be a clickable button on the screen in a random location that they must click quickly, if they don't click in time, the boost turns off, but if they do click it in time, the boost will stay on for an extra 2 - 3 seconds until another button appears until the 10 seconds is over, this adds a rhythm game element to the ultimate and challenges the player to multitask through traversing and maintaining a momentum boost. There could also be multiple changeable ultimate's, and each varying in rarity and type (traversal / offensive / defensive) and obtainable through challenges.
i have an idea, since it is not a fan game anymore, how about make him swing in an original city? maybe something with strange buildings, strange shapes and geometries? i think this movement deserves an environment as good as that
I was gonna say I think you should do something we can get alternate suits or different spider arms, just some more options to how your spider dude can look
We have some.skin ideas currently.mainly.based on different spiders. So you can be a tarantula or blackwidow etc.. But any kind of skin related stuff is way down the line there is so much that needs to be done before we do anything cosmetic
Looks awesome 👍👍
Can't wait wow😮🙏
I like little shaking of limbs when going idle trough the air, can we slap against a wall like a spider 😮
How about big charge jump from ground to a point
Is it possible to run down a building
Are the webs bit elastic like stretch abit down when swinging
How about running around corners of buildings maybe he can loop corners like in Prince of Persia the artsy one
Maybe a flip back jump like prototype could or Lara
All cool ideas! Lots to.think about, Thank you!
@@SarpSerterthank you for making your dreams true and sharing this it's very amazing and ispirative to see this journey
# Genuine suggestions
Could you consider focusing on giving our more means for destruction and chaos at some point? What boosts my enjoyment of Spider-Man Web of Shadows in comparison to other titles is the following:
- Human NPCs can act afraid if you act chaotic
- Human NPCs can be unalived by throwing cars at them
- It is possible to partially destroy bottom part of each building
- It is possible to throw cars in general
- It is possible to destroy some environment objects
This makes Spider-Man Web of Shadows feel closer to something's like the "Prototype" game series. Or even a bit like the Hulk game series (of course much less destruction, but still).
So could you please add such elements? I'm not sure if you are going for a 'hero' vibe or not, but since there is car exploding already, I see no reason to not add this. Some players could always act less destructive if they want, I just ask for means for others, who want to have more fun.
What I would see being added eventually:
- Simple civilian NPCs which can act afraid if you endanger them. It should be possible to unalive them too by means like throwing cars at them, which would make them progressively more afraid (kind of like reputation).
- Swinging into civilians with speed would make them ragdoll and get thrown around (like driving your car into civilians in GTA games).
- An optional reputation metter. So civilians would either see you as a kind of hero if you act less destructively. Or vigilante if you act destructively and unalive NPCs. If the see you positively they wave happily when seeing you, if they see you negatively they scream a bit and try to run away / act startled.
- If the reputation meter is low then maybe some special task force would try to hunt you down in random events.
- Picking civilians from the around freely and throwing them around with ragdoll enabled (like in Prototype game series).
- Maybe webbing random civilians, would be nice to be able to web them to the building or hang them somewhere to swing down.
- Throwing cars from the ground. Like in Spider-Man Web of Shadows. Possibly exploding civilians and causing them to ragdoll. Possibly adding am "effort matter": If you release the button after picking the car fast then it is thrown on a short distance. If you release it over time (with animations of struggling) main character throws it at a much larger distance. Since he should show some effort if he throws some heavy car super far.
- Some objects should be possible to be destroyed (gates, signs and such), objects in the city and maybe bottom structures on each building.
- If there is a combat system with enemies then adding some of it would be generally beneficial. As you could use cars to throw at enemies, and then mid combat civilian NPCs could die too if you are not careful, or they would look afraid and run away.
As for the co-op mode. This one is very important to keep. I'm not sure how to make the above suggestions work with it, but maybe you could make it possible for someone to host the game (kind of like in Minecraft) where the other person joins in, and the world reacts mostly to the primary player.
You can also add some Spider-Man Web kd Shadows inspired brutal attacks. This game had some really decent animations at times. For example there is am attack working like this: Standing in place and shooting a single web/tentacle at your enemy. Then pulling them towards you, and when they are about to touch you, grabbing them by their neck, then snapping it. Generally it feels more powerful in person, like your enemy is some kind of doll, and you just gran them like this menacingly.
Also the biggest suggestion, release it on android 5... Just kidding. 😈
This kind of reads like our GDD document :D We have pretty much planned for basically all of this. What you wrote is missing one big key element but I dont want to reveal too much before we can acctually back it up first. So tune in to the upcomign videos you are going to see a lot of things like what you wrote.
@@SarpSerter
I'm glad to read this, similar elements would easily provide more fun. Especially in comparison to Spider-Man titles, which lack it for the most part. Spider-Man games have an enjoyable free roam because of swinging, whereas games like Prototype have fast city movement + destruction/chaos. Essentially another way of enjoying the game freely.
Wishing you good luck. Hopefully I can start sculpting on my PC eventually to support similar projects (as I can do so in real life and always enjoyed it).
I'm sure this will be the best Mobil spiderman game ❤️
LMAO
Bro thinks his phone can run this 💀
The car haha i love it dude!
This looks awesome Sarp! You guys are doing a great job!! And I wanted to ask since you guys are changing some of the models and animations to move away from the spiderman ip, which is totally understandable of course, would the old models and animations be available as skins with the option to have retractable spiderlegs like how it used to be, in the settings?
Personally I was a huge fan of the base Crawly with bandages and that cute smile and I’d like to play with his skin but no arms except when I choose to like before (and not to mention keeping old models and animations would make modding in the look of a certain controversial “friendly neighborhood spider-guy” easier).
Also I reaaallly loved your guys’s model for said certain “spider-guy” in the past and I was wondering if since you guys probably aren’t gonna include his skin in the final game will you release those beautiful models for modders?
And the webs look awesome with the cell shaded art style but would you allow the old webs to be toggled on and off in the settings for people that want a more realistic spider-guy feel?
And my final question (sorry so many) will you guys keep the pizza parlor in the game as the site for races with that awesome music?
I think it will modding froendly which should answer most of your questions xD
Crawly rig now comes with the legs.But we had sone designs where legs close on to his cjest and than he is back to a humanoid shape. It will have to be animated animated like that.
@@SarpSerterThank you for responding! I really appreciate you taking to the time to read my messages. And I wanted to ask will the models used in the past be released online for modders? And it’s great to hear you guys are planning on having retractable arms, I love that!!
This traversal is what i wanted from spiderman 2
Hi, so i was looking at the animations and the character animations look incredible. Perfect. But, the camera could still do a little more to assist with the fluidity i think. For example each leap the player makes has a peak speed and then there's a decay and eventually a smooth landing, right? I feel like if the camera angle and FOV would be animated to reflect that a little bit it would go a long way. I would love to see that tested out if you see it worth trying out
The new redesign and car swinging look sweet!
Thank you!!
it would be cool if you could land on street lamps at high velocity and bounce off them to continue your momentum
The webslinging would be way more cool if you could manually shoot each web so you can do unique stuff like webbing the ground to throw you forward
heres something i thought of just right on the spot.. what if you add like a random encounter of like enemy's but you can pick them up while swinging and throw them around and be able to skate on them like in spider man webs of shadows
so be able to do tony hawk but with people
;)
Some Steven He level with knockoff jokes :D "Do you have Spiderman" - "We have Crawley!"
Its cool and all, but looks like a copyright infringement lawsuite in the making
WOW, this looks SO much better!
Are you going to make a story or is it going to awaken gameplay entertainment? I hope that at least there will be some kind of plot...
The gameplsy is not exactly a.campaign but there is a story
Hello I’m very impressed with your work, did you guys implemented ragdoll physics ? Like for exemple if you fall or you run into a building the character has a realistic ragdoll or he just land on his feet like in recent Spider-Man games.
Bro i cant wait to download on android IS AMAZING!
if there will be a combat sistem, i would like that you add web weapons combos, like in spiderman shattered dimensions, or also a symbiote system, but i think that is so ambitious
Spiderman 2 with iron spider legs and Just Cause grapple
Looks amazing !
Thank you!
This game looks like so much fun. One note- the character design is great but I think its clothes/costume can be simplified. Just my opinion. His whole outfit is just very busy, lots of straps for no reason type of vibe ya know?
He swings with those wraps its aliving fa ric that can do a lot more ;)
@@SarpSerter ah very cool
They should implement fatigue so that when Spider-Man catches the car, he gets tired and would have to let go of it, or else he would pass out.
Por cierto hablo español
I see how you want to add buildings in this games. Paint vertex on plane and add procedural buildings. I see how it work in houdini and that was cool
bro you are insane take your time just deliver us a good game thank u for all the effort you put into this game
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🙂🙂🧡🧡🧡
Yes boss, We are on it!
Great work just as always man. I highly suggested or recommend you check all-father's ideas on spider combat. I think that all father's ideas and your ideas if put together properly will create something awesome out of it. So please check out his youtube videos.
Not sure who that is? Are you talking about Lucas?
@@SarpSerterI think he’s referring to this video: ruclips.net/video/EznxEPJJlhE/видео.htmlsi=WRlnYVSvQrpZPHBt
I really cannot wait to play a demo of this game
Hope this game works on the Steam Deck. Would be perfect for any of the PC handhelds though.
Loco el traje ta durísimo, haz también una gran variedad de trajes
If u add Arkham combat i will be happy and i am sure the other fans will be too😊