The polemic video about the energy device

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2022
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  • @MegaSuperJaBaTo
    @MegaSuperJaBaTo Год назад +8

    Or to put it in the words of Leonardo da Vinci:
    "O explorers of perpetual motion, how many tangled fantasies have you dreamed up in your quest. Go and join the alchemists."

  • @giorgiontanas8618
    @giorgiontanas8618 Год назад +6

    Hello, as a model aviation enthusiast, I have been enjoying your videos for a long time and want to congratulate you on 100K subs. Good work, and we hope you keep making more rc videos, and good luck on your new channel.
    Regarding the "fiery" or "polemic" topic: you could have used a graphic/disclaimer in the beginning of the video, like "This is not my personal opinion and I am not the original creator of the video. I am just reposting it due to the fact that I found it interesting and would like this community's opinion on if this is feasible or not". I think you did something like that but I dont think you solidly stated it, leading people to believe that you have bought into this or are helping this person make money off of this.
    You say that we should be more tolerant of new ideas like this, but given that these types of ideas are based on science/facts and not philosophy or political debate, it is very hard to tolerate something that ignores very basic laws of physics and thermodynamics.
    Would you tolerate me saying to you "1+1=2 and I dont need to provide proof for what I am saying, it just is true because you see it all around you. Buy my book if you need more proof, and if you dont, you are just close minded. Ciao!". You probably wouldnt tolerate it, so dont be surprised that many people are not open to discussion on things that ignore basic physics laws.
    If i had created something groundbreaking like he claims to have made, I would have solid proof (video of an actual model working, analysis data) ready at hand, to post and show anyone who tried to make a fool of me saying I am a scammer. Instead, to anyone who just laughs off or criticizes his idea and asks for mathematical or scientific proof of his concept, he keeps responding that the five systems are proven and we can see them all around us and that this is all the proof he needs to provide and he even requests mathematical data that proves the opposite of what he is saying. People are basically saying to him "show me the math that this works" and he's like "no, you show me the math that this doesnt work". This is just CRAZY TALK lol and I hope you realize it.
    The fact that the creator (or a duplicate account that he has made) keeps replying the same thing about the five systems that are proven and when asked about providing proof he says "there are photos and evidence in the book" is a huge red flag. I wouldnt say he is a scammer per se, but he is just trying to make money by selling fiction as fact. Again, I would not criticize this if he was saying "I wrote a novel, buy it its a good story" or "this is a theoretical model please care to experiment with it and see if it works". Instead he is saying that the truth is hidden in his book and we all need to buy it so the world can be saved.
    Good on you for making a follow up explaining why you shared the original video in the firstplace. This proves you care about being straight with your audience. If you would have said nothing and just moved on would have been fishy.
    ps: also, to that duck account, you can write anything you want about as many proven systems as you want, I am not going to reply to you because this is not a philosophical debate, it is a scientific debate and there's nothing to reply to worded fiction. Reply with SOLID scientific data and proof of your working model, and then I am open to discussion.

  • @MegaSuperJaBaTo
    @MegaSuperJaBaTo Год назад +22

    Come on. There will never be a perpetuum mobile and that's what the guy was trying to "sell" you.
    It also has nothing to do with tolerance when people react with anger to such crap, just common sense.
    Especially with someone with as much technical understanding as you have, all alarm bells should have rung immediately.

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад +1

      You have to be more open. You only insulting the scientific facts and scientists. The five system are already proven and working individually. Proven with prototype. Data and details (photos) are given in the book How to get infinite energy book? First you have to know reality so who you are then you can understand the rest. No one knows everything. No one knows the ultimate truth of everything. We can not separate anything from everything means all are different but the oneness. All depend on each other. All are connected. Whatever we call as “my” my body, my mind; not you. So; your body is accumulated by eating food. whatever we accumulated is not you. Nothing is separated from the rest of the universe. All are one and you. Real thing can not be threatened by anything so you only real. Focus on what is focusing on so you. Energy is everything. (Albert Einstein E= MC^2 ) but this is not the whole story because we can’t measure and understand or isolate fundamental units of everything. Just be open minded and know the facts.

    • @theoztreecrasher2647
      @theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад +1

      +1!

    • @dip8
      @dip8 Год назад +1

      +1

    • @you5711
      @you5711 7 месяцев назад +1

      Hi, MegaSuperJaBaTo. You can't say there will never be a perpetuum mobile unless you have tried every possible configuration for such a device, which is impossible. Science doesn't work that way. When it comes to laws and theories in science, it's impossible to show that a particular law or theory is true in every case, which is what's required in order to prove that a law or a theory is true. However, it is possible to disprove a law or a theory because that requires showing only one instance where a law or a theory is violated. When conservation of energy is taught in school, the student comes away thinking that conservation of energy is inviolable. From this, it's thought that people who try to build machines with overunity efficiency are ignorant and are wasting their time, money, and resources. They are not. Experimenting in order to obtain empirical data is what science is all about, and empirical data and empirical evidence supersedes everything. Remember, all it takes is one instance of a law or a theory being violated for that law or theory to be history.

  • @devalsinhsindha8626
    @devalsinhsindha8626 Год назад +3

    congratulations for 100k 🥳🥳

    • @Joyplanes
      @Joyplanes  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much!

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      @@Joyplanes Number is not important but quality and standards of people are very important so If you really after that for more then congratulations 🎉

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад +1

      @@Joyplanes Appreciate your goodness and good intentions

  • @JCtheMusicMan_
    @JCtheMusicMan_ Год назад +3

    I enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад +1

      Just be open minded. We have to be more receptive to new scientific truth and scientists. The solution is here. You can find each systems all around you. The five system are already proven and working individually. Proven with prototype. Data and details (photos) are given in the book How to get infinite energy book? First you have to know reality so who you are then you can understand the rest. No one knows everything. No one knows the ultimate truth of everything. We can not separate anything from everything means all are different but the oneness. All depend on each other. All are connected. Whatever we call as “my” my body, my mind; not you. So; your body is accumulated by eating food. whatever we accumulated is not you. Nothing is separated from the rest of the universe. All are one and you. Real thing can not be threatened by anything so you only real. Focus on what is focusing on so you. Energy is everything. (Albert Einstein E= MC^2 ) but this is not the whole story because we can’t measure and understand or isolate fundamental units of everything. Just be open minded and know the facts.

  • @theoztreecrasher2647
    @theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад +1

    I'll add this as a stand alone post so it doesn't get redacted by 1 of these scammers deleting theirs. 😁
    A request please. Can anyone supply a link to the algorithm that allows you to repeat the same reply on every post ad infinitum?

  • @geekmystique
    @geekmystique Год назад +2

    Now back to content pleassssssssssssssssse

  • @lbournissen4455
    @lbournissen4455 Год назад +1

    Después de haber escuchado unas 500 veces you know, evidentemente I don't know, esa es la razón por la que estoy viendo el video

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      The solution is here. The five system are already proven and working individually

  • @vaishacnambiar1131
    @vaishacnambiar1131 Год назад +2

    Yes sir

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад +1

      Yes for what? Just open minded and receptive to the new scientific facts and scientists. The solution is here. The device’s five system are already proven and working individually. No one knows everything and understand everything.

    • @vaishacnambiar1131
      @vaishacnambiar1131 Год назад

      @@seemlyme hmmm

    • @vaishacnambiar1131
      @vaishacnambiar1131 Год назад

      @@seemlyme yes

  • @TheBigBigBlues
    @TheBigBigBlues Год назад +4

    Energy is never free because you still have to buy the parts to make the perpetual motion machine. Rubber ain't cheap.

  • @arkenonporros2095
    @arkenonporros2095 Год назад

    Hola joy, que pasó con el canal en español? Saludos

    • @m.s.aviation7065
      @m.s.aviation7065 Год назад

      In his previous video, he explained why he hasn't been uploading as much anymore. Cheers!

  • @dip8
    @dip8 Год назад +1

    tell me you did not do that

  • @israeelthegraetking
    @israeelthegraetking Год назад +2

    If it was this simple the fella would have created a miniature model of this already built. The question is why hasn't he already done this? & instead is showing the catch phrase "Free Energy" instead of a miniature demonstration of the process in action? This makes me doubt the genuineness of this theory.

  • @marinkitigawa4852
    @marinkitigawa4852 Год назад +2

    Hi

  • @manuelzumarsnsilva157
    @manuelzumarsnsilva157 Год назад +2

    Porqueeee cambiaron el idiomaaa, no entiendo nadaaaaaaaa!!!!

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      Then Use google translation

  • @alwayscensored6871
    @alwayscensored6871 Год назад +2

    Before they had an electrical power grid they used hydraulic power grids with accumulators and pipes instead of wires. They knew all about water power.

  • @miguelmouta5372
    @miguelmouta5372 Год назад +3

    Polemic? Hahaha…

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад +1

      When people don’t understand the proven five systems?

  • @loodwich
    @loodwich Год назад +3

    Veamos, parece valido, pero no lo es. Deberías consultarlo con los que somos especialistas en el tema... comete un error en el funcionamiento de las válvulas hidráulicas. (y por eso escribo este comentario en español)

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      Google translation can work, learn constructive criticism. The five system are already proven

    • @loodwich
      @loodwich Год назад +2

      @@seemlyme Joyvel Osorio and I both learned a new language, so we could use both, I like his channel a lot, and I think that it is one of the most incredible to start making RC planes.
      What did I say in Spanish?
      I saw the whole original video, and I was wondering how to make a prototype... so I checked everything, and I found a mistake on the water valves; the original author forgot how a Newtonian fluid works in contact with the Air, so the water will fill the cylinder, but later the cylinder will not goes down, by the action of Archimedes principle... So it will not work... Advantages of my Ph.D. in Physics.

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      @@loodwich Are you talking about fifth system? All the five systems are proven. Look all around you. Pascal principle in hydraulic lifting is working. First System is storing energy in the form of gravitational potential energy then using it to push out the chamber water through the pipe above the surrounding water level so by gravitational force of the falling weight plate. Please talk in terms of forces and maths so the five systems. Clearly mention the one you are about to reply?

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      @@loodwich Read this please.
      Extended dependence on fossil fuels and other consumable resources to meet the energy requirements of modern world and to provide the high living standards required by modern society has been driving the mankind towards exhaustion of current fuel and energy resources. Hence, this article provides an energy generation device that can be used to produce energy constantly by using buoyancy and gravitational forces. The provided energy generation device comprises a positive buoyant stable vessel body (the vessel is attached to external tank with bars) having at its base (inside) an extendable/retractable chamber with the lock to open and close intake valve for incoming water through the valve’s hole from the lower end of the vessel. The water exits the chamber via a pipe due to the external pressure from a weight plate. The continuous flow of water from the pipe can be further used to generate energy.
      This device is not a completely isolated system from the rest of the universe, so it is not a perpetual‭ ‬ ‭ ‬motion‭ ‬ ‭ ‬device‭ ‬ ‭ ‬and‭ ‬ ‭ ‬thus‭ ‬ ‭ ‬does‭ ‬ ‭ ‬not‭ ‬ ‭ ‬violate‭ ‬ ‭ ‬physics‭ ‬ ‭ ‬principles.‭ ‬ ‭ ‬I‭ ‬ ‭ ‬have‭ ‬ ‭ ‬a‭ ‬ ‭ ‬working prototype and I have included as much information as possible about the device so that the experiment can be reproduced. In layman’s terms; this device has the advantage of a sequence of‭ ‬ five‭ ‬ systems.‭ ‬ Lateral‭ ‬ ‭ ‬water‭ ‬ ‭ ‬displacement‭ ‬ ‭ ‬reduces‭ ‬ ‭ ‬depth‭ ‬ ‭ ‬distance‭ ‬ ‭ ‬to ‭ ‬send ‭ ‬water‭ ‬ ‭ ‬above; buoyant force acts as an upward force to expand a chamber of the device’s vessel (inside) to store energy in the form of the gravitational potential energy of a weight plate. Incoming water enters the chamber through an intake valve underneath. This is a float valve system. The valve is used to close by the buoyant force. It is initially locked by hand before automatic locking systems enclose the chamber. The hydraulic lift principle (system) is used to pressurise the chamber via the weight plate (gravity). Pascal’s principle and gravity thus bring the chamber water outside the vessel and above the surrounding water level through a pipe. The (falling) water generates electricity in the water turbine generator and distributes electrical energy for the automatic locking of the intake valve and the rest, for our use. This is the main benefit of the device. The objective of the device is to bring the surrounding (chamber) water above water level by using buoyant force and gravity. And, I have demonstrated with the prototype.

  • @marc_frank
    @marc_frank Год назад +6

    your intergrity is impressive
    your reasons for publishing the video are logical and kind
    but the device doesn't work

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      Just open minded and know the facts. The five system are already proven and working individually. Make decisions based on mathematical calculations analysis model and evidence.. Proven with prototype. Data and details (photos) are given in the book How to get infinite energy book? First you have to know reality so who you are then you can understand the rest. No one knows everything. No one knows the ultimate truth of everything. We can not separate anything from everything means all are different but the oneness. All depend on each other. All are connected. Whatever we call as “my” my body, my mind; not you. So; your body is accumulated by eating food. whatever we accumulated is not you. Nothing is separated from the rest of the universe. All are one and you. Real thing can not be threatened by anything so you only real. Focus on what is focusing on so you. Energy is everything. (Albert Einstein E= MC^2 ) but this is not the whole story because we can’t measure and understand or isolate fundamental units of everything. Just be open minded and know the facts.

  • @devalsinhsindha8626
    @devalsinhsindha8626 Год назад +2

    Also, I have some suggestions you may like:
    study how other infotainers make their video, their quality, and style of representation, etc.
    another thing is to research market trends and things that have become popular for the time and make videos and thumbnails regarding the same
    also, I suggest learning the art of retaining viewers.
    thank you
    All the best

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      The five system are already proven and working individually. Just be open minded

    • @theoztreecrasher2647
      @theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад

      @@seemlyme A request please. Can you supply a link to the algorithm that allows you to repeat the same reply on every post ad infinitum?

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      @@theoztreecrasher2647 crazy? Not the same comments for all but The facts are same mostly so Changes are made. I am not robot but human

    • @theoztreecrasher2647
      @theoztreecrasher2647 Год назад

      @@seemlyme And my name is Winston Gupta. If you just give me your bank details I can fix your computer, please Sahib.

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      @@theoztreecrasher2647 Crazy?

  • @mckenziekeith7434
    @mckenziekeith7434 Год назад +7

    Those guys in the comment section were scammers. Glad you took it off your channel.

    • @seemlyme
      @seemlyme Год назад

      You have to open up your eyes and your mindset little more. Insulting scientific facts and scientists; Not ok. The solution is here. The five system are already proven and working individually. Watch all around you. Proven with prototype. Data and details (photos) are given in the book How to get infinite energy book? First you have to know reality so who you are then you can understand the rest. No one knows everything. No one knows the ultimate truth of everything. We can not separate anything from everything means all are different but the oneness. All depend on each other. All are connected. Whatever we call as “my” my body, my mind; not you. So; your body is accumulated by eating food. whatever we accumulated is not you. Nothing is separated from the rest of the universe. All are one and you. Real thing can not be threatened by anything so you only real. Focus on what is focusing on so you. Energy is everything. (Albert Einstein E= MC^2 ) but this is not the whole story because we can’t measure and understand or isolate fundamental units of everything. Just be open minded and know the facts.

    • @Balathayaparan
      @Balathayaparan Год назад

      No. I am not scammer. The workings of the device are already proven so the five systems are proven and working individually so look around the world. Do your mathematical calculations analysis model then

    • @mckenziekeith7434
      @mckenziekeith7434 Год назад +3

      @@Balathayaparan conservation of energy is one of the cornerstone principals of all physics. This completely rules out all free-energy devices without doing detailed analysis. Anyone who has ever studied physics at all should know this. All free energy devices or perpetual motion machines or over-unity generators and so-on are impossible. This is not an opinion. It is a rock hard scientific fact. That you are a scammer is my opinion (not a rock-hard fact). But usually when people claim they have a free energy device and request payment for details, or encourage people to pay for information about it in any way, that is an indication that the person is probably a scammer. You have repeatedly indicated that you have detailed information about the device and that if someone were to provide payment you would share that information. This makes you look like a scammer. I hope that is clear.

  • @seemlyme
    @seemlyme Год назад +3

    Nothing controversial. Shut up and do mathematical calculations analysis model. Maths works. Science is based on evidence and experiments. Not assumption.
    We can not separate anything from everything means all are different but the oneness. Whatever accumulated is not you so whatever you call as “my”; my body, my mind etc.. Focus on what is focusing on so you. Real thing can not be threatened by anything. You are not separated from the rest of the universe. All depend on each other. All are connected. Whatever you do to others, you are doing to you only. True power is doing your best to others. So you only. Love all, serve all as much as possible.

  • @entropytango5348
    @entropytango5348 8 месяцев назад

    There is no such thing as a free lunch. Science shouldn't depend on 'how you feel' lmao. You lost this viewer