So, two questions for you guys from this video - did you believe Uryu had gone over to the dark side, and do you think his character was used well? Let me know!
Part of me believes he wouldn't have given he already helped saved the worlds alongside many whom Quincies do not got along with to say the least. He certainly joined to put up the appearance and protect his only remaining family.
It is not important if Ishida had passed to the dark side or not, but I think that all the hype that the author has put on the character has not been well placed, as uryu in the latest saga does very little, I expected much more, it is also not clear why he was immune to Auswählen and why ywach did not see him in the future.
This isn't really an answer to the above question, but regarding the thing with Uryu declining to go to Hueco Mundo, it was Ichigo who said that's the reason why Uryu isn't going, but he remained silent, giving of this (in my iterpretation) reluctant look on his face. So maybe Uryu knew something about the Quincy ivaiding Hueco Mundo, or I'm reading into something that isn't there. Just a thought. (appologies for any speling mistakes, english is my second language and speling was never my strong suit)
Shoulda disrespected Chad one last time and had uryu kill him. That would have changed our minds and accepting the lesser evil to vanquish the greater evil sort of fits with his character
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 unfortunatly chad lost his personality and usefulness at the end of SS (Soul Society) at least for me. I mean yes we know their close friends and helped eachother in fights at school but when it comes to the series chad doesnt do much.
@@Dartkitten yeah, honestly i thought he was cool until the captains and liutenants got introduced plus the espada chad was just lame, i used to like uryuu alot to but unfortunately for my likeing of them were just meh bcs the espada and captains had alot more to offer personality and battle iq wise btw aizen is my favorite character
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 out of the original four (five?) main charecters i like uryuu and later on i like ukitake and tozen for personal reasons (but im sure you can figure out why) and shunsui too, of course. Aizen is a better villian.
Really? I was never surprised at all. He’s always been about being a Quincy, since day 1. He thought he was the “last” Quincy and felt like he had no sense of belonging. I thought it made sense for him to want and to go be with his people despite his friendships. Hope the anime does more with his character though
@@renierdelossantos6879 On that one, Ryuuken supposedly quit being a Quincy and Uryuu is younger. So even if he is not the only one alive, the bloodline ends with him, that means technically he was the last.
It goes much beyond these 2: 1. Juha - Aizen Quite clear - the leader who wants to kill the Soul King and looses to Ichigo 2. Uryuu - Gin The General who wants to betrya the Leader 3. Hashwalth - Tousen The other Commander 'blindly' following the Leader. Also both cut the Arm of the Rebelious one (refer to point 10) 4. Askin - Starrk The one who does not want to fight yet is very analatical. Also both trolled Ichigo 5. Lille - Barragan The arrogant, self-claimed strongest who looses to his own powers 6. Gerard - Harribel The warrior prototyp who follows the Leader just to be betreyed by him at the end (instead of being defeated by the protagonist) 7. Pernida - Wonderweiss The least human-like and both somehow are connected to hands. And both beaten a brutal at the beggining of their respective fight 8. Gremmy - Nnoitra A strong one to help Kenpachi develop 9. Kirge - Ulquiorra Both left to guard Hueco Mundo and faced both Ichigo and Urahara 10. Bazz-B - Grimmjow Do I need to explain? 11. Pepe-Zommari Dark-skinned, love Powers, Fighting Byakuya 12. Giselle - Szayel Both like using other, cunning and fought Mayuri 13. As Nodt - Aaroniero Boyh quite ugly, Rukia had a personal reason to kill them. 14. Mask - Yammy Not the sharpest tool in the shed. Fighting multiple opponents, turning out stronger than expected.
@@k2basior I always saw the equivalent of Gerard as more "post reveal Yammy" ...... except he doesn't get off screened and gets the same type of boring fight that Resurreción Yammy would have gotten if he wasn't offed so quickly
@@scottgrasser9737 Please don't remind us. Gerard Valkeryie is probably the worst thing Kubo ever wrote. And Lille wasn't far behind. I will never understand why people like those two.
I don't think he was wasted, I just think that his role is not expanded or given enough screen time like many other things in the final arc. This is why I hope the anime adds and expands certain aspects like: 1. Uryu's role 2. 1000 Year Flashback 3. The Original Sin 4. Squad 0 fights 5. Ichigo's bankai 6. Fights for Isshin, Ryuken, Chad, Grimmjow, Nell, Fullbringers and Vizards. 7. Backstories for major Sternritters 8. Extended epilogue 9. Longer fights in general 10. CFYOW & WDKALY adaptations.
I think Yhwach naming Uryuu his successor makes sense for exactly the reason Yhwach gave him. Because Uryuu is unaffected by Auswaehlen. Yhwach already knew at that point that he was going to Auswaehlen the other Stern Ritter. Naming Haschwalth the successor would've been pointless for that reason. Once Yhwach completed his plan, he would've control an entire new world made up of all the current worlds merged into one, so he'd leave managing the comparitively small Quincy empire to his successor. I'm sure Yhwach knew that Uryuu was never truly on his side but it just didn't matter to him as Uryuu was the only one who fit the requirements for the task. Also I strongly recommend going back to the Uryuu vs Mayuri fight and reading Uryuu's recollection of what Souken told him about using the Sanrei Glove and Uryuu's subsequent thoughts, and then immediately afterwards read the part in chapter 660 where Uryuu explains his plan to kill Yhwach to Ichigo. And what Souken said ties into the answer Uryuu gave to Ichigo in the Soul Palace that he's doing all this because he's a Quincy, and then his explanation to Haschwalth where he says he betrayed Yhwach to protect his friends. He's doing exactly what Souken said to do if he still wants to walk the Quincy path after finding something he truly wants to protect.
I think it makes sense for Uryu to be the Antithesis. He was established to be someone that stands against the old ways of the Quincy like his grandfather.
If he was the last quincy it only made sense they would make contact with him to join their leagues. In fact, even Ichigo was going to be recruited. Uryu never betrayed his friends that was clear from day one. Ichigo should have known Uryu was putting up an act
A little bit of a headcanon theory, but I believe it's possible Uryu used the Antithesis in the final exchange with Yhwch. It would explain away the fact that Yhwch should've seen the Still Silver arrow coming a whole timeline away, as well as the unlikely angle the arrow is drawn coming through his chest. Seeing it in action would've been better, of course, but time was up.
to be honest i think the Stil Silver Arrow shot shouldnt have hit but rather Yhwach saw it in the future and deflected it back into Uryuu's heart but then Uryuu used Antithesis to reverse the outcome so the Arrow was in Yhwach's heart instead. that would be a better way to illustrated that whole scene i think
@@kaidouseishin4614 I’m pretty sure he said it would interrupt almighty for a moment, so it probably would have worked on haschwalt too if yhwach was asleep
I thought it was obvious Uryu had a hidden meaning to not going to Hueco Mundo it never felt random especially the way he's drawn. Especially since they just fought a hollow with Quincy like powers
Here’s the thing that pisses off the fans . What was done with uryu ended up being a disappointing cliche . Uryu has genius level intellect but he just pretends to be a bad guy and that betrayal amounted to nothing.
@@bqw2094 I thought it would lead to some of the Sternritter distrusting Yhwach and cause some infighting. Because a lot of them were very angry that Uryu was his successor even though he was a new recruit
i wish it would have meant either that he had deeper unknown to readers bonds with them or that they somehow had an ideology that appealed to uryu but yeah with the rich as they are no way he was going to truly be one of them
@@chawli2782 still though I wish Kubo did more with that. Like we maybe have a few Quincy grunts jump him and deal a bunch of damage to him. Then we cut back to the fight later and Uryu’s wounds are healed and the grunts are wounded instead. Would’ve been an interesting way to foreshadow his Schrift
His infiltration of the Wandenreich and settling into Yhwach's inner circle was quite an achievement in of itself. He sure got some great development in the series as a whole going from distrusting Shinigami(for obvious reasons) to going into the heat of the action for the sake of the worlds and his friends. It's great he and Ichigo are now studying education with their friendship solidified.
What ? LOL Infiltrate successfully ? Yhwach allowed him to be apart of the sternritters despite knowing he couldn't be trusted. Jugram and many other quincies didn't trust him. And Jugram even called him out on wanting revenge for his mom. The only thing keeping the other sternritters from jumping him and killing him was yhwach. And Jugram pretty much explained to his personal aide that yhwach didn't trust uryu either. Many of the sternritters wanted to kill uryu. Bazz B was one for example.
@@manuelacosta9463 I always thought maybe Ywach saw a future where Uryu was a threat when not kept on a close leash and that's why he let him get so close. Ultimately it didn't make a difference. Good idea, no execution.
@@manuelacosta9463 Seriously though, how is that possible? Yhwach can see the future and change it. I have to think that Uryu may be immune to the powers of the Almighty. Otherwise, you have to assume Yhwach let in someone that was trying to kill him knowingly. Twisted curiosity or not, that seems like an unnecessary risk for a group that was as organized and risk adverse as the Quincies were. I almost wonder if Uryy was the antithesis to the Quincies as a whole. Uryu was willing to sacrifice himself for the world and his friends, while the Quincies became blind disciples of a monster Yhwach, becoming twisted themselves as they were trying to destroy the world.
I never believed he was joining the dark side but at the same time I thought he might be slipping back into it or the Quincy King had someone to manipulate the underlings
Never felt that Uryuu had 'gone bad', but that his joining the Sternritter was meant to be a point of ironic tension for us as the reader. We know Uryuu is likely a double-agent here, an infiltrator among a group we just learned is incredibly dangerous. Furthermore, I was always held in a level of tension feeling like something dramatic might happen to Uryuu for this, that YHWACH might be able to exhibit some control or even kill Uryuu at a whim now that he has his schrift. The reveal of Uryuu being made the heir really unsettled me because it felt as though it was YHWACH calling Uryuu's bluff and establishing a connection that would ultimately allow YHWACH to control/kill Uryuu. I was constantly sure that Uryuu was being set up as putting himself into danger that would cost him his life but allow him the only way to afford his friends victory. At the end of the day, it's reflective of BLEACH's themes of the individual's relationship to society, where Uryuu is willing to (dangerously) infiltrate and fake being an ally to a cruel society for the sake of his connection to other individuals.
If i were Kubo i would've make the "fight" between Uryu and Haschwalt a REAL fight were they go all out at each other. Eventually Haschwalt has the upper hand but then Ryuken appears and helps Uryu, developing their relationship in the process. Later Ryuken gives Uryu the Stil Silver to take down Juha and we get a panel of Uryu's determined eyes as he says: "I will do it, father." He finally recognizes him as his father instead of calling Ryuken by his name.
For real, more development between those would’ve been great. It’s a little strange how barely present Ryuken is himself in the arc considering it focuses on the Quincy and his son was on the enemies team, but the most focus he gets was during EBTR. And considering his wife was killed by the main villain, you’d think he’d have a bigger role than he usually did.
And I agree that an actual fight with Uryu and Jugram would’ve been cool. Imagine if Uryu was trying to beat him before Yhwach could get back the Almighty but failed.
I never thought Uryu went bad I had a couple mini theories before hand when reading. 1: He was blackmailed/threatened Aka as a Quincy he was drafted and they threatened him and possibly his family if he didn't join them (expecting him to clash with Ichigo and have a big heart breaking moment where they're forced to fight.) 2: His idealised sense of Quincy pride and duty lead him to join, only to find out later just how horrible they where, and then he'd come back to help the good guys. 3: He joined with the intention to betray them
It’s really weird how Kubo didn’t have time to give to Uryu when, in my opinion, he wasted so much time on useless mook fights. Like Gerard Valkyrie? Did he have to keep reviving? Or the Bird guy? Or the poison guy? The zombie girl? There was just way too much time spent fighting these one note Sternritter that could’ve been given to Uryu. Yeah he was absolutely wasted.
No one really believed Ishida had become a bad guy, it was pretty obvious that his plan was to infiltrate Yhwach's party in order to destroy it and at the same time to protect his friends.
Honestly, him killing Mayuri in the final war would have fixed a lot of thing. He'd have actually done something to earn the trust of the Sternritter and killed a captain. It would have been a nice moment, him avenging his grandfahter and keeping his promise that he'd kill him. Could have made things more dramatic and made people doubt a bit more about his loyalty.
Indeed. Tho losing Mayuri v Pernida would suck a fair bit ngl. Maybe changing the order of things so both fights happen. Also getting rid of the giselle fight if you don't want mayuri to have 3 full ones
I mean Uryu accomplished a lot giving the fact that he didn’t have a Quincy mate to train with, outside his father who never wanted to train him Only when he lost his power, but all this was necessary for Uryuu to think outside the box and to have Free thinking without the Quincy king Pressing him throughout his growing.
It would’ve been cool if uryu actually became a villain at the end after getting a decent view of what power looks like, his main goal still being to avenge his mother but taking ywach place instead thus extending the manga a little longer and actually making him a good plot character. Just what I wish would’ve happened with him, obviously you’d have to change a lot of things that have happened in the arc but still I think this would’ve been a little better!
I never thought he went bad because he was so quiet and never voicing how he felt like he did when Uryuu did when he first challenged ichigo in season 1
I personally wanted to see Uruyu get stronger and reach Ichigo's level or at least top Captain tier because it feels like he just got left behind in the series. Like, I was expecting a new transformation after his ultimate transformation against Mayuri but we got nothing.
Well in Tybw he is stronger than every captain expect for yamamoto and Kenpachi and he is the 4th strongest sternritter but they were terrible in showing his strenght
And here I was hoping for a Nico Robin-level friend betrayal arc with a Sasuke- level friend battle... of all the things I hope for the anime to change and elaborate on, this is one of the big ones.
You know, I never thought uryu was a bad guy. I was hoping that he was some triple agent kinda guy. This was my theory that the Ishidas were some quincy mutation that was free from yuha's will. This mutation scared yuha and gave him the choice to eliminate them on subjugate them to insure they cannot pose a threat to him. Soken after learning that the quincys truly had no free will aside from servitude to yuha and seeing the quincys change and become an empty shell of wat they were under servitude to yuha, defected along with a few quincys under his cause. They were the quincy on earth that were eliminated by the aswalen light, except the ishidas who were unefected. This is where Uryu comes in: Uryu after being scouted and being told of yuhas plans decided to go in alone( at the time I thought the all mighty would not affect the Ishidas and hashwald) and find a way to take control of the quincys and return them to the way of life soken talked about. That's why he had to betray his friends because in his mind, if he waited for yuha to atain God hood and then take his power and use it to fix the current world instead of creating a new one or ruling over yuhas world. (Avenging his mother was somewhere In there too) after his plan failed and hashwald found him out uryu would join back up with Ichigo and they would use ichigos power an uryus imunity to defeat yuha.
my interpretation of Uryu's actions was one of confliction. Through the entire series up to this point Uryu has praised the Quincy and their powers. during this arc he is suddenly asked to join a group of Quincy, and he is not sure which side to stick with. He goes with his default and joins the Quincy and has regrets when he sees what they are all about.
This is true towards people that don’t keep up. Nothing he says is news to me. Hold on though, that doesn’t mean I don’t enjoy his content. I absolutely love hearing his thoughts and opinions. Helps me grow as a Bleach fan.
@@zenkairanger most of us have read the manga. His takes imo are well done. That's why I enjoy listening to his videos. He puts his heart into it and I can appreciate that 👏
Interesting that you would bring him up.Uryu has become one of my favorite characters in bleach. Watching his evolution was quite interesting. He’s always cool, calm, and extremely intelligent.He’s definitely become a great bleach character. Definitely deserves this video you made.
I personally thought the Antithesis was a fine ability, awkwardly executed but it's a very strong ability against anyone except someone using the Balance. A lot of the Sternritters have Scrifts that don't really tie to their character or design. The girl with pink hair the power comes to mind, even Halscwald with the Balance, his power could've been anything and would've fit his character. Imagine he was B the Boost, and could Boost the power of others and his Attacks, sounds more like him than Balance but a lot less Broken and cool lol. Robert is probably N the Navigate like you said in another video, I guess he looks like a Navigator kinda so that may not count.
And that is why Hash was a good opponent for Uryu to deal with as his main fight. It was someone that Uryu would have trully go all out and do his best to overcome him. Problem was how poorly executed and rushed the fight was.
I think a fix for this whole thing Is in the anime adaptation, we see Uryu offered a position with the Quincies. Its kind of like a rehashing of Orihime getting abducted but like you said on its head. It could be why he has to break away, he's offered an opportunity to meet someone before everything even goes down. Instead of self sacrifice it's a on the dime decision to help from the inside. It would be so easy to add and to put some stock in why he had to make the choice. In this situation they could have threatened to steal his powers lest he joins, or a conversation between Uryu and whomever came could add some stakes. P.s, quality content as usual! Liked!
That would actually be so cool if uryu and jugram had an initial encounter where jugram mops the floor with uryu and states he should join or he would lose his power. Ofc he would never be evil and help from the inside as you said. A lot of great interactions would happen since uryu wouldn't be hiding himself and being bold with why he thinks the sternritter are scum or something of the sort due to his grandpa's teachings
I don't think anyone really believed that he switched sides, which is what made the whole thing so frustrating. No reader likes having their intelligence insulted and even fewer like having their time wasted, and the whole thing with Ishida did both. Ishida, Ishigo, Isshin and Ryuken all had good reasons to want to kill Yhwach and a four vs one with them against him would have been so much cooler than watching Ichigo get stomped while Orihime does nothing of note.
I think the only failure with Ishida's character in this arch was how little Kubo played to his and ichigo's relationship. It's like he's trying to hint at them being best bros, but he just falls short of it.
Did I think Uryuu willfully turned evil? No. But did his Gin-like kamikaze nature annoy me? Yep, absolutely 😂 I also do feel that he wasn't really used that well, especially when taking into account that this was "his" arc.
Uryu Ishida is my favourite character in Bleach. One of the things I'm disappointed in with the final arc is that Uryu didn't do a lot. I wanted to see him in action a lot more. It would've been cool to see him fight other Soul Reapers like the Captains, and that they don't show what his power is until his fight with Haschwalth. They could at least show him defeat a Captain or another Soul Reaper without revealing how he did it. And it would imply that he has gotten a lot stronger.
I’m like Shocked😳 watching this video. But not surprised that he went to the dark side, because I always felt like he was cold throughout many events. But great video you killed it 💕✨
I always feel like Uryu is even the better friend to Ichigo. Chad is explained as the best friend by Kubo, the author. But Kubo basically makes nothing with Chad. We see no supportive scenarios between Chad and Ichigo except that one time Chad tells Ichigo how HE uses fullbring. He is not even in the last arc so even Kubo forgot that CHad even exists... Kubo writes Uryu as the more supportive of the two. Helping Ichigo saving Rukia (when he basically has no greater reason top help him). Saves Orihime on countless parts. Later he even comes to Ichigo to support him against Ulqoirra and attempt to stop hollow Ichigo and almost getting killed in the process. He later tries to warn Ichigo about Ginjo and is one of the few characters fighting Yhwach.
I feel if we the readers had seen the recruitment process of uryu, maybe it wouldn't convince us he'd gone bad but it would have given us a bit more of a pause, like, how did they "convince" him? Or better yet how did uryu convince them?
Personally, when Kudo first teased us with Uryu joining the Sternritter, I was hoping that Uryu had been taken in by a more "sympathetic" side of we hadn't been shown yet. I presumed that some of them, such as Robert Accutrone, might possibly have had a friendship with Urya's grandfather, and wanted revenge against Soul Society for his friend's death. I presumed that a re-awoken desire for revenge, stirred up by Yhwach and those like Robert, would blind Uryu to the crueler, more despicable side of the Sternritter. I hoped for a rematch between Uryu and Mayuri, where Uryu would use his newly-granted powers from Yhwach to finally kill the captain - the very thing he failed to do back in the Soul Society arc - and because, let's face it, while he's a fun character, Mayuri needed comeuppance for (almost - looking at you, Szayelaporro) all the people he's killed and tortured throughout his life. Eventually, of course, he'd learn that Yhwach is nothing but a selfish dirtbag who killed his mother and throws away his loyal followers the moment they hold no further use to him, and that would convince Uryu that he made the wrong choice and help Ichigo finally kill Yhwach once-and-for-all. Then Uryu would take over the Vandenreich and lead the surviving Quincy into a new age, one built upon his grandfather's teachings.
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1) I never believed Uryu went bad. A good way to fix this though. Have Uryu at the first invasion and confronted by a Sternritter, like Haschwalth or someone. He questions Uryu as to why he's helping the Shinigami considering their treatment of the Quincy and they'll probably consider him an enemy anyway. Uryu argues back that he's helping Ichigo not the Shingami and that Ichigo will protect him if the Shingami turn on him. Haschwalth says the equivalent of "Yeah, sure. Call for me when you get locked up." Then after the first invasion have Uryu jailed by the Shingami while Ichigo is out of commission. Feeling abandoned and betrayed Uryu calls for Haschwalth and he's transported to the Quincy world. This gives Uryu a reason to turn. He can say he was faking it later, but it gives the reader reason to doubt his loyalties 2) While the Antithesis is a neat title, I think the Aegis could have been put to better use. Aegis: the power to protect, control, or support something or someone. Basically, it would be the ultimate support role, which, if we're being honest is exactly what Uryu is. Tactical support that is best when he is organizing and using both his and his allies powers to their fullest. Uryu would be able to boost the power of an ally, but also secretly gain a modicum of control over them as well. Ywach sees this as a means protect and strengthen the Quincy, giving more of a reason to name him the Heir. Also he thinks it a way to boost his Almighty power, but doesn't realize that it allows Uryu to keep one possible future hidden from his eyes. Uryu could also coordinate the second assault on the Serettai with his new ability, demonstrating his further "loyalty".
I love how Uryu was Jugram’s adversary. Uryu had Jugram triggered when it came to friendship. Uryu did what he didn’t do when it came to his friends. Jugram dropped Bazz B like that while Uryu didn’t. Jugram valued power over friendship while Uryu valued friendship over power. And deep down Jugram regretted his decisions despite saying he didn’t.
haha trailer hype has me watching every Ishida video out there, anyway great job on this one, you have some really great insights into Uryu's character. I have SO MANY thoughts about Uryu, so please bear with me as I type alongside watching this bc I love talking about him. As you pointed out, there was a large gap between Uryu refusing to go to Hueco Mundo and the end of EBTR, and I can remember clearly the Uryu nation of the bleach fanbase waiting with bated breath for his role in the arc to come to light and there was a LOT of speculation. I think one of the biggest theories I saw regarding him was that if it did turn out he was with the Sternritters, it was because he had very much been backed into a corner while he was separated from his allies and it was safer for him to play along with the Quincies rather than fight them alone without a plan, or based on Quilge Opie's comment about Soken, that Uryu was there a mission to uncover information about his grandfather. I don't think either of these turned out to be true and in hindsight and speculation, the reason Uryu refused to go to Hueco Mundo felt so strange is because he was already considering the possibility of the nature of these new enemies. At the time Ichigo's room is invaded by whats-his-name during their friendly bread time, he thinks it might be an Arrancar because of the mask, but that was only his initial assessment. And knowing how sensitive to reiatsu Uryu is as a Quincy, it's possible that between then and Nel's visit that he'd already considered the polity - especially since Nel's arrival would've given him a point of comparison as an actual Arrancar. In that chapter, what to the readers is supposed to be the last "friendly" interaction between Ichigo and Uryu, he seems far too resigned that he can't go with them. The same guy that happily found a loophole in his pledge to his father to not associate with shinigami is suddenly going "too bad so sad" when someone needs help is, as you pointed out, not in line with Uryu's character- that is - unless he's already considering the possibility that if their enemies are Quincies like him, that he alone out of this group can infiltrate them and destroy them from the inside without his friends getting involved and being put in harm's way. We've seen it before where Uryu singles himself out to an opponent to try and keep someone else safe - he threatens Aramaki to take Orihime and run before his fight with Kurotsuchi, he tells Cirruci that he's not associated with Pesche so she won't attack him, he takes on Ulquiorra alone to buy Orihime and Ichigo time, and when he's hospitalised in the Fullbring arc, he initially refuses healing from Orihime on the off chance that the enemy is targeting him specifically (being in the hospital would keep him a safe distance from his friends so as to not put them in harm's way). The sadness and resignation that he just can't go with them this time make a lot more sense if, to Uryu, this is his final goodbye to his friends, and they don't even know that. That either, they'll return to find he's destroyed Warwhelt with himself inside (or died trying) or if they do meet again, he'll have to convince them he's their enemy. SO. To answer your question, I don't think anyone from the get-go was convinced that Uryu had joined the side of the Quincies without an ulterior motive, from that point onwards, to me at least, it felt like Kubo was making us watch Uryu play a very dangerous game of political minesweeper. No one truly believed he was evil, but the repercussions of that meant that we watched Uryu navigate from within enemy lines, constantly balancing on the edge of what he needed to do to gain their trust, while also trying to avoid being discovered as he put his plan into action, while also having to shut down emotional responses to both his friend's reactions to the behaviour of Ywach and fellow Sternritters. It was very nerve-wracking to see Uryu essentially having a constant threat hanging over him when Ywach announces him as his heir while the Sternritters were all reluctant to trust him (and for good reason), with the word of Ywach being the only thing keeping them from ripping into him. That's what I read as Kubo's narrative angle when writing Uryu as one of the bad guys anyway - and your point about how we never see Uryu's introspection the entire time, I think it doubles up, to people who believed he had sided with the Vandenreich it makes Uryu's allegiances unclear, to those who weren't convinced, we can't see Uryu's plan or thought process, we don't know what his ulterior motive is and so we can't safely predict how he'll navigate it. Essentially on all sides we're all just reading it going "what the hell are you doing?" Moving on - yes very much so, one thing that bothered me the most is that Uryu's survival of Auschwalen is never elaborated on. It's just put out there and even after Bleach has ended we still have to speculate with no definitive answer. It might be related to the fact that even with a mixed-blood mother, he still was born to two Quincy parents. Or perhaps Soken had a hand in his survival or maybe even a situation like Ichigo where he was protected somehow by Kanae (that would be nice, we don't know much about the Ishida family between Uryu being born and Kanae dying and I think it would just be a nice level of depth to the Ishida's and another similarity between Ichigo and Uryu). I can't see how it would relate to Antithesis, my understanding of Antithesis is that until Santen Kesshun, it doesn't just reject an event, but rather, there needs to be a selected target to take on what would've happened to him which I can't think of any decent candidates for but maybe there are some gaps in my memory from the last time I read TYBW. I do kinda like Ichigo just trying to shout his way through to Uryu bc in the past, Rukia needed saving, Orihime needed saving, everyone affected by Tsukishima (which coincidentally did not include Uryu) needed saving, he's never had to deal with someone willingly going against him. I don't know what he was trying to achieve just be shouting his name the whole time, but it gives a strange sense that Ichigo's objective isn't just as simple as "defeat all the bad guys and save the day" when one of the bad guys is someone he wants to protect, and he doesn't quite know how to reach him. I do still think that the moments we got with them weren't enough though, But very true, all in all, we just didn't spend enough time with Uryu for what was built-up. I think for the expectations we had for him going into a "Quincy Arc" and the long gaps of absence he had where we have no idea what he's doing, left a lot of build-up of speculations that got all dressed up but went nowhere. For one I would've loved to have seen a split between the Vandenreich, those who either believed Uryu was their ally or just believed in their majestys decision and those who wouldn't trust him as far as they could throw him. It would've been interesting to see the Quincies fall apart from the inside because of Uryu due to trust, and then fall apart literally due to his spirit particle plan. On that topic - the emotional consequences of Uryu going on a suicide mission to destroy the Vandenreich while being willing to die with his friends thinking he'd betrayed them is NEVER explored, especially when Ichigo had literally just said in the past arc to Uryu in the hospital something along the lines of "if we can't handle it by yourself, then we all need to come together" (the consequences of Ryuken not thinking to lock the door when autopsying his dead wife while his small child is in the house is also never touched on beyond "I don't wanna be a doctor") It was just a "Oh he's NOT a bad guy confirmed now we can move on to other stuff" which felt like an injustice to Uryu really. The thing about his motivations...I get wanting to avenge your mother, but to the readers, given that we never saw Uryu and his mother together in a panel or even a scene (where both of them are alive). We don't know what the Ishida family was like, whether Uryu was close with his mother, how her death affected him (maybe how it made Ryuken throw himself in to his work, driving Uryu to seek out more time with Soken just to have an affectionate parental figure in his life). ALSO regarding the actual battle of Uryu vs Hashbrown - a friend and I joked the entire time that it was logistically a "no u", "no u", "I'm rubber ur glue whatever u say sticks back to u" and that Ryuken just showed up fashionably late with a Starbucks or whatever. Though regarding Antithesis, I very much took that as Uryu design-wise, has always been the antithesis to Ichigo. Themes of dark vs light, a loving family and a cold family, a desire to protect vs every man for himself, even their contrasting colours of orange and blue. I can't say for certain whether he was truly wasted as a character, more than just not getting the catharsis of all the plot points that were set up. But I can say for sure, the fact that Uryu didn't get a proper scene to reunite with his friends after it was all over, where they just relished in living through another world-ending event, that we never get Ryuken's perspective at all in the present day of this arc and the fact Uryu and Ryukens relationship was never resolved properly and not given the proper ending they deserved, that we just have to assume they came to a resolution on their own outside of what we're shown, made me want to get wasted just to cope. A fun side note, until this video I never realised that the kanji used for Licht Regen means "rain of light" - kinda fun when you think how one of the characters in Uryu means "rain" combined with the whole Prince of Light thing.
Anti thesis: a person or thing that is the direct opposite of someone or something else. (in Hegelian philosophy) the negation of the thesis as the second stage in the process of dialectical reasoning. Hegelian: Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel was a German philosopher I am still trying to see and understand and finding a connection
uryu is the "antithesis" to the sternritter, and their relation with yhwach. The sternritter all get power from yhwach, so they serve him, whereas uryu never really does. that's why he faces off against jugram, who's basically the biggest yhwach simp. nothing to do with this german philosopher lol
It would have been cool if Kubo did some foreshadowing during the SS arc that one of Uryu's objectives was to set up markers for when the Wandenreich can swap the terrain and HM have him come to disrupt and scout the area for the Quincy invasion and some more of Ryuken/Ishida or Soken/Ryuken discussing what's coming or future plans. That's why I'm hoping how Snyder got his cut, Kubo has his fully fleshed out.
Really digging these analysis. I always upset with the way the final arc was rushed. It had so much room left for character and plot development but it makes sense now knowing Kubo’s health was deteriorating.
He SHOULD HAVE KILLED Mayuri. This would keep up the Charade that Uryu "Turn to the Dark side" And later Nemu should have had stable cells and married Uryu.
Uryu's antithesis is he and all his endeavors are the antithesis. He is the exact opposite of what is expected when the mixed quincy are killed, him being granted title of heir is the antithesis to what everyone thought would be done, his actions through the arch are the antithesis to what we had come to expect and he is the antithesis to our main protagonist. He is the antithesis of the entire series.
i think it was aslo stated that it took 9h for ichigo to reach the soul society when he left the soul palace, but ywach said that the 72 layers are open for another 6000 seconds which is not close to 2 hours...let that sink in
I never thought he was evil. I considered multiple things, especially the fact that he is so intelligent. He could easily show himself up as a true Quincy, whilst analyzing and trying to get a feel for the people Ichigo could be facing.
I had a theory that Uryu would renounce his Quincy abilities and ask either Urahara or Aizen to use the Hogyoku to turn him into something like an arrancar that way he would poison Yuha when he took those powers back. This would fit with his theme of pride in his Quincy heritage and him casting that aside would be fulfilling his grandfathers wish for him to live without that shadow and to embrace hollows as a part of the soul cycle.
Or even better idea: he had already been an arrancar when he joined Yuha and was just replicating Quincy abilities with clever uses of Cero, Bala, and Hierro, with his glasses functioning as his mask. Yuha would allow him to rebel and then take the Schrift back not knowing he put it on a Hollowfied human and been weakened enough for Ichigo to kill him. Maybe even show Uryu using a ressurecion to beat Haschwalth.
Am I the only one who thinks that Chad is still Ichigos best friend? Like Uryu and Ichigo get closer i think it just seems that way because Uryu and Ichigo grow closer in the series but we know Chad and Ichigo are already close friends. If Tsukishima "controlling" Chad is a slight against him then shouldnt that apply to Orihime as well? Chad was ready to murder Tsukishima in the Lost Agent Arc when they fought initially. Chad tried everything in his power to give Ichigo back his powers because he knew how Ichigo was feeling. He's the only one who took a proactive approach. I guess you could say it's because of Xcution but he still tried
@@bqw2094 Ya Chad gets shafted as far as screen time. But I wasn't talking about why people don't talk about Chad just that I still think Ichigo and Chad are closer than Uryu and Ichigo
My brother read it while it was coming out, and I didn't believe it at all, because it wasn't built at all; Ichigo and Sado both have had their own darkness expanded, not so much Ishida
Uryu's view of what a Quincy should be is the antithesis of what Yhwach's Quincy are? That's the closest I've gotten to explaining that to myself lmao.
Uryu wasn't the last quincy because there's still Giselle and her friends who still alive. I believe there's also Nanana mentioned in the light novel i think
I don’t think it was even about Uryu being a traitor but more like he wanted that feeling of home with his race of people. I don’t know. That’s what I got from this
Hilarious because mrtommo didnt even refer to him as that in this video at all. Ishida deserved more in the final arc. But blow me a new one with all the story he got character development, saved the worlds and practically helped defeat juha bach. You making it sound like he did nothing in the arc is just talking a hugr load of BS
The bad part about the Uryu twist was that he was given great power and status by Ywach and NEVER once doubted or was it considered that he might turn traitor. And maybe there was a reason, but it was never shown to us. Ywach had to consider Uryus complex relationships
Uryu is my favorite character. Not just in Bleach, or anime- but ever. I never once thought he was evil. I enjoyed this vid. Thanks for this. Awesome job!
I've always been an anime only fan and seriously I can't wait to see bleach come back. While I've enjoyed reading the manga every now and then it's gonna be so good to see how they bring this to life especially uryu and that scene where he walks in in his white military gear
Honestly, the anti-thesis makes sense completely. Uryu is the opposite of Yhwach, unaffected by his Auswahlen.. why wouldn't he be unaffected by The Almighty? I mean, he is "affected" but probably not a way even Yhwach is able to realize. I truly believe Uryu was a 6th Special War Power, simply because he himself is anti-Yhwach. Everything Yhwach does towards the Quincy, towards the Soul Reapers, Uryu shoves back into his face.
I also think Kubo made Him the antithesis bc He as a character was created as the antithesis or foil not only for Ichigo but for the shinigami as well, being pretty much the only quincy in a world dominated by them. There's also the fact that His journey in the TYBW is the antithesis of haschwalth's decisions and outcomes.
16:53 I imagine it was just lucky genes that got passed on essentially, kind of like a punnet square where you have a few different possibilities as far as what can happen. Assuming that being quincy isn't a race thing and more so a singular gene the "quincy gene" I'll call it, then ryouken had a 100 percent chance to pass on the quincy gene to uryu. Making him a quincy. And his mother had a 50% chance of passing on the quincy gene or a non quincy gene, and he got lucky enough to get the quincy gene essentially making him a full quincy in blood.
uryu joining the vandenreich to me was not well thought out...for starters ywach letting him join the vandenreich should've never been possible. like didnt check him before letting him join? even if it was to monitor his movements. like, why is he entertaining this? ywach should know he came for revenge for his mother( he killed her). if he wanted uryu dead, he could've certainly done it, yet he gave him the perfect counter to his ability. and what did uryu think he was going to do? he never even attempt to kill ywach, and if it wasn't for the arrow that his dad give him (and last minute) or the antithesis( which was given to him) he was not going to do nothing to ywach.....
Know I'm late on this one but pretty sure his schrift(?) Anti-Thesis is supposed to show how he's going against what yhwach is pitching what all quincy should do. He is the opposite of ywhach in that while yhwach is trying to destroy the world's under guise of protecting/ending his "father". Uryu is trying to kill ywach because he killed his mother and so many other and to protect the world's. Uryus and Yhwachs goal are opposites. While they do share similar motives/means to accomplish that goal. They stand on opposite sides. I think the bigger question is, if yhwach and haschwalt can see the future how did neither of them see anything about what uryu was doing. Idk how an omnipotent being who can see all futures misses the one where he takes an arrow to the back. Unless has something to do with soul king which is a big maybe
Too be honest, when I first read it. I thought he was a mole for Urihara. If I remember correctly, Ishida was working with Urihara, receiving missions or tasks from him
Something I just thought of halfway through the video. What if kubo played the story from the stuff we got originally with the shinigami and quincies fights. But, he would give us the perspective of ichigo and uryu dealing with the death of their mothers and maybe in the final fight they fight Ywach with their fathers.
Uryu saying that hollows are the enemy line was clearly just an excuse he gave his friends so he can go off and do what he has to. I don't understand how that is so hard to get. The way its drawn, his wording. When it first came out I specifically remember thinking, why would he lie like that? Then he switched sides, apparently to some people he did. But with the context of that lie early it was pretty clear and straight forward he was going to destroy them from the inside. Personally I think Kuba did not give anywhere enough to suggest he did but rather reconfirmed his good guy stance. How this trips people up till this day I do not know.
I think it makes sense for him to not help out the gang early on or the SS with his “plan” because as we know he still has strong pride in being a Quincy. He still doesn’t like Soul reapers, only tolerates them because of Ichigo and Rukia. I don’t think Uryu’s role was a dud I just think if the anime can add the details and some foreshadow, it’d be a perfect arc. Kubo also did confirm that him not dying from the Aushwalen would be explained in the anime
what I wonder is why didnt Ishida's power include being immune to the almighty because his ability is just a No you which isnt even close to how broken Balance is which almost does the same but better. Plus I never really understood how he conveniently survived Auschwalen despite not being a pure blooded Quincy .
It was very clear that Uryu was wholeheartedly obligated to be loyal to Bach because he was a Quincy from a long gone era and wanted to be there to see what a Quincy hero would do in the modern day
I was hoping for more scheming. A twist where we as the reader see Uryu trying to sabotage the Vandenreich in the background but everybody else believing that Uryu really switched over to the dark side. I assumed that was Kubo's goal but Uryu was just chilling around until he had to shoot the last arrow. I feel like the arc in general needed a bit more planning and 100-150 more chapters. The setup was just too big. Ishin and Ryoken for example not playing part in this even though it's a matter of the heart for both of them. Ishin letting Ichigo handle this on his own was also pretty strange. Ishin always let Ichigo do his thing but he arrived when he had to during the climax of fake karakura. Here he just didn't although he is one of the most capable shinigami there is and the danger levels were higher than ever before. I'd imagine him at least playing a bit more of a role. Maybe taking on a side guy or something. Nothing. He was drinking his beers waiting for the world to end or his son to win although he still had his final getsuga tenshou. Would have helped a lot.
Like you said just a moment or a few of his POV. His final fight not getting cut out and being a major battle but I also find it hard to believe he’d be stronger than haschwalth. Maybe expand the fight against ichigo with a few getsugas and some more arrows a conversation about their new found history they have together. A few more memories with his grandfather a conversation with ywhach and he would have been an mvp of the arc I love the stuff we got just adding a few more things would of made his impact amazing even with his plan not working
I hope with the anime coming out, Kubo will be able to write and end this story like he wanted it to end. Bleach is a great story, it was my favorite of the big 3, and it got shafted so hard by circumstances. Even if he has to change some things, I want to experience his story!
i hope that the anime actually see these flaws and fixes it. while a lot of people just want the anime to comeback, but behind all of that, people want justice for the story. a better story. and if they dont fix these issues, than its a big F you to the fans...
So, two questions for you guys from this video - did you believe Uryu had gone over to the dark side, and do you think his character was used well? Let me know!
Part of me believes he wouldn't have given he already helped saved the worlds alongside many whom Quincies do not got along with to say the least. He certainly joined to put up the appearance and protect his only remaining family.
It is not important if Ishida had passed to the dark side or not, but I think that all the hype that the author has put on the character has not been well placed, as uryu in the latest saga does very little, I expected much more, it is also not clear why he was immune to Auswählen and why ywach did not see him in the future.
This isn't really an answer to the above question, but regarding the thing with Uryu declining to go to Hueco Mundo, it was Ichigo who said that's the reason why Uryu isn't going, but he remained silent, giving of this (in my iterpretation) reluctant look on his face. So maybe Uryu knew something about the Quincy ivaiding Hueco Mundo, or I'm reading into something that isn't there. Just a thought. (appologies for any speling mistakes, english is my second language and speling was never my strong suit)
I never thought he actually defected since even in story you have Jugram assume he was there to get revenge for his mother.
I think he deserved more but he he was used well but did deserved a lot more
I never thought Uryuu was evil for one second
Shoulda disrespected Chad one last time and had uryu kill him. That would have changed our minds and accepting the lesser evil to vanquish the greater evil sort of fits with his character
@@midosabbagh i dont like chad very much.
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 unfortunatly chad lost his personality and usefulness at the end of SS (Soul Society) at least for me. I mean yes we know their close friends and helped eachother in fights at school but when it comes to the series chad doesnt do much.
@@Dartkitten yeah, honestly i thought he was cool until the captains and liutenants got introduced plus the espada chad was just lame, i used to like uryuu alot to but unfortunately for my likeing of them were just meh bcs the espada and captains had alot more to offer personality and battle iq wise btw aizen is my favorite character
@@shadowmomochiuchiha6839 out of the original four (five?) main charecters i like uryuu and later on i like ukitake and tozen for personal reasons (but im sure you can figure out why) and shunsui too, of course. Aizen is a better villian.
I never thought Uryu was evil but i was incredibly surprised about him joining the Wandenreich.
Really? I was never surprised at all. He’s always been about being a Quincy, since day 1. He thought he was the “last” Quincy and felt like he had no sense of belonging. I thought it made sense for him to want and to go be with his people despite his friendships. Hope the anime does more with his character though
I wasnt surprised at all either
@@youngrootv but he always knew his Father is also a quincy. who is alive. but ok.
I was like: yeah, now it's his turn to play what Zanpakutou rebellion filler Byakuya did
@@renierdelossantos6879 On that one, Ryuuken supposedly quit being a Quincy and Uryuu is younger. So even if he is not the only one alive, the bloodline ends with him, that means technically he was the last.
I never once believed Uryu was evil at any moment. He cares about his friends too much to be evil.
Uryu and Jugram are parallel to Gin and
Tousen: the double agent and the truly loyal one
It goes much beyond these 2:
1. Juha - Aizen
Quite clear - the leader who wants to kill the Soul King and looses to Ichigo
2. Uryuu - Gin
The General who wants to betrya the Leader
3. Hashwalth - Tousen
The other Commander 'blindly' following the Leader. Also both cut the Arm of the Rebelious one (refer to point 10)
4. Askin - Starrk
The one who does not want to fight yet is very analatical. Also both trolled Ichigo
5. Lille - Barragan
The arrogant, self-claimed strongest who looses to his own powers
6. Gerard - Harribel
The warrior prototyp who follows the Leader just to be betreyed by him at the end (instead of being defeated by the protagonist)
7. Pernida - Wonderweiss
The least human-like and both somehow are connected to hands. And both beaten a brutal at the beggining of their respective fight
8. Gremmy - Nnoitra
A strong one to help Kenpachi develop
9. Kirge - Ulquiorra
Both left to guard Hueco Mundo and faced both Ichigo and Urahara
10. Bazz-B - Grimmjow
Do I need to explain?
11. Pepe-Zommari
Dark-skinned, love Powers, Fighting Byakuya
12. Giselle - Szayel
Both like using other, cunning and fought Mayuri
13. As Nodt - Aaroniero
Boyh quite ugly, Rukia had a personal reason to kill them.
14. Mask - Yammy
Not the sharpest tool in the shed. Fighting multiple opponents, turning out stronger than expected.
@@k2basior I always saw the equivalent of Gerard as more "post reveal Yammy" ...... except he doesn't get off screened and gets the same type of boring fight that Resurreción Yammy would have gotten if he wasn't offed so quickly
@@k2basior 🤓🤓🤓🤓
I wish uruyu got more screen time, I really wanted him to have a greater presence in the final arc :/
Yeah agreed but he was important and relevant at least
story really made kenpatchi byakuya and toshiro the main people in the arc honestly
even ichigo gets sidelined
@@scottgrasser9737 Please don't remind us. Gerard Valkeryie is probably the worst thing Kubo ever wrote. And Lille wasn't far behind. I will never understand why people like those two.
Was chad and orihime in it
@@sportydestroyer1049 they are vaguely shown in the beginning and then towards the end you mostly see orihime
I don't think he was wasted, I just think that his role is not expanded or given enough screen time like many other things in the final arc. This is why I hope the anime adds and expands certain aspects like:
1. Uryu's role
2. 1000 Year Flashback
3. The Original Sin
4. Squad 0 fights
5. Ichigo's bankai
6. Fights for Isshin, Ryuken, Chad, Grimmjow, Nell, Fullbringers and Vizards.
7. Backstories for major Sternritters
8. Extended epilogue
9. Longer fights in general
10. CFYOW & WDKALY adaptations.
That 1000 year flashback is what I'm hoping for the most.
What about safwy?
@@seiyuokamihimura5082 I'd love if it was added but it doesn't fit in the timeline with the TYBW. It can only work as a movie or something similar.
@@seiyuokamihimura5082 sorry whats safwy?
@@Dartkitten i think it is the newest novel spirits are forever with you
Uryu was always the smart one. I thought he was planning against them from the start.
I think Yhwach naming Uryuu his successor makes sense for exactly the reason Yhwach gave him. Because Uryuu is unaffected by Auswaehlen. Yhwach already knew at that point that he was going to Auswaehlen the other Stern Ritter. Naming Haschwalth the successor would've been pointless for that reason. Once Yhwach completed his plan, he would've control an entire new world made up of all the current worlds merged into one, so he'd leave managing the comparitively small Quincy empire to his successor. I'm sure Yhwach knew that Uryuu was never truly on his side but it just didn't matter to him as Uryuu was the only one who fit the requirements for the task.
Also I strongly recommend going back to the Uryuu vs Mayuri fight and reading Uryuu's recollection of what Souken told him about using the Sanrei Glove and Uryuu's subsequent thoughts, and then immediately afterwards read the part in chapter 660 where Uryuu explains his plan to kill Yhwach to Ichigo. And what Souken said ties into the answer Uryuu gave to Ichigo in the Soul Palace that he's doing all this because he's a Quincy, and then his explanation to Haschwalth where he says he betrayed Yhwach to protect his friends. He's doing exactly what Souken said to do if he still wants to walk the Quincy path after finding something he truly wants to protect.
That actually makes sense. He was named heir since he'd be the only one who would survive.
Still does not make sense. If Uryu were not affected by Auswahlen, just kill him the traditional way.
@@ShadowbannedAccounthe wasn't a threat though
@@MatthewKelley-mq4ce I don't know. Being immune to my most powerful attack is a threat in my book.
I think it makes sense for Uryu to be the Antithesis. He was established to be someone that stands against the old ways of the Quincy like his grandfather.
Uryu was def underutilized, hopefully when the anime returns, they give him more to do
Its not about being underutlized but just like the other humans he didnt got a huge important or significant moment or spotlight
@@kabnaansah-eshun6981 not really there is a difference
@@kabnaansah-eshun6981 useless irrelevant or unimportant which he wasnt
@@kabnaansah-eshun6981 ohh then my bad you are right. Apologizes
If he was the last quincy it only made sense they would make contact with him to join their leagues. In fact, even Ichigo was going to be recruited. Uryu never betrayed his friends that was clear from day one. Ichigo should have known Uryu was putting up an act
A little bit of a headcanon theory, but I believe it's possible Uryu used the Antithesis in the final exchange with Yhwch. It would explain away the fact that Yhwch should've seen the Still Silver arrow coming a whole timeline away, as well as the unlikely angle the arrow is drawn coming through his chest. Seeing it in action would've been better, of course, but time was up.
yes, that was my take, bc Jugram said that the antithesis ability could theoretically be used to defeat Yhwch
to be honest i think the Stil Silver Arrow shot shouldnt have hit but rather Yhwach saw it in the future and deflected it back into Uryuu's heart but then Uryuu used Antithesis to reverse the outcome so the Arrow was in Yhwach's heart instead. that would be a better way to illustrated that whole scene i think
@@kaidouseishin4614 That's an awesome idea! However, would Uryu have been able to use Antithesis with the silver arrow in his heart?
@@gomer2813 didnt Ryuken said that the Stil Silver Arrow only work on Yhwach ? or i missed something. it's been so long since i read that chapter
@@kaidouseishin4614 I’m pretty sure he said it would interrupt almighty for a moment, so it probably would have worked on haschwalt too if yhwach was asleep
I thought it was obvious Uryu had a hidden meaning to not going to Hueco Mundo it never felt random especially the way he's drawn. Especially since they just fought a hollow with Quincy like powers
He probably already knew the WR were there and didnt want them to recognize him infront of Ichigo.
9:58 I never thought he was evil. He's too much of a nice guy to support people like the Sternitter lol.
We all knew he was gonna betray them.
Here’s the thing that pisses off the fans . What was done with uryu ended up being a disappointing cliche . Uryu has genius level intellect but he just pretends to be a bad guy and that betrayal amounted to nothing.
@@bqw2094 I thought it would lead to some of the Sternritter distrusting Yhwach and cause some infighting. Because a lot of them were very angry that Uryu was his successor even though he was a new recruit
i wish it would have meant either that he had deeper unknown to readers bonds with them or that they somehow had an ideology that appealed to uryu but yeah with the rich as they are no way he was going to truly be one of them
@@zach415 that guy is a bleach hater and a troll do no take in consideration anything he says
@@chawli2782 still though I wish Kubo did more with that. Like we maybe have a few Quincy grunts jump him and deal a bunch of damage to him. Then we cut back to the fight later and Uryu’s wounds are healed and the grunts are wounded instead. Would’ve been an interesting way to foreshadow his Schrift
His infiltration of the Wandenreich and settling into Yhwach's inner circle was quite an achievement in of itself. He sure got some great development in the series as a whole going from distrusting Shinigami(for obvious reasons) to going into the heat of the action for the sake of the worlds and his friends. It's great he and Ichigo are now studying education with their friendship solidified.
What ? LOL Infiltrate successfully ? Yhwach allowed him to be apart of the sternritters despite knowing he couldn't be trusted. Jugram and many other quincies didn't trust him. And Jugram even called him out on wanting revenge for his mom. The only thing keeping the other sternritters from jumping him and killing him was yhwach. And Jugram pretty much explained to his personal aide that yhwach didn't trust uryu either. Many of the sternritters wanted to kill uryu. Bazz B was one for example.
@@giganticomega6821 True that. Something tells me Yhwach let him on out of a twisted curiosity as to what would happen, but that's just my theory.
@Winter Green Chad is fodder. And Orihime has never been a fighter. She's a healer.
@@manuelacosta9463 I always thought maybe Ywach saw a future where Uryu was a threat when not kept on a close leash and that's why he let him get so close. Ultimately it didn't make a difference. Good idea, no execution.
@@manuelacosta9463 Seriously though, how is that possible? Yhwach can see the future and change it. I have to think that Uryu may be immune to the powers of the Almighty. Otherwise, you have to assume Yhwach let in someone that was trying to kill him knowingly. Twisted curiosity or not, that seems like an unnecessary risk for a group that was as organized and risk adverse as the Quincies were. I almost wonder if Uryy was the antithesis to the Quincies as a whole. Uryu was willing to sacrifice himself for the world and his friends, while the Quincies became blind disciples of a monster Yhwach, becoming twisted themselves as they were trying to destroy the world.
Ryuken and Isshin joining the final battle against Yuha would be epic. Imagine Ichigo, Renji and Aizen almost losing hope and these two arrive.
I never believed he was joining the dark side but at the same time I thought he might be slipping back into it or the Quincy King had someone to manipulate the underlings
Never felt that Uryuu had 'gone bad', but that his joining the Sternritter was meant to be a point of ironic tension for us as the reader. We know Uryuu is likely a double-agent here, an infiltrator among a group we just learned is incredibly dangerous. Furthermore, I was always held in a level of tension feeling like something dramatic might happen to Uryuu for this, that YHWACH might be able to exhibit some control or even kill Uryuu at a whim now that he has his schrift. The reveal of Uryuu being made the heir really unsettled me because it felt as though it was YHWACH calling Uryuu's bluff and establishing a connection that would ultimately allow YHWACH to control/kill Uryuu.
I was constantly sure that Uryuu was being set up as putting himself into danger that would cost him his life but allow him the only way to afford his friends victory. At the end of the day, it's reflective of BLEACH's themes of the individual's relationship to society, where Uryuu is willing to (dangerously) infiltrate and fake being an ally to a cruel society for the sake of his connection to other individuals.
I really wish we had seen Uryu’s new final form and a team up with his dad
If i were Kubo i would've make the "fight" between Uryu and Haschwalt a REAL fight were they go all out at each other. Eventually Haschwalt has the upper hand but then Ryuken appears and helps Uryu, developing their relationship in the process. Later Ryuken gives Uryu the Stil Silver to take down Juha and we get a panel of Uryu's determined eyes as he says: "I will do it, father." He finally recognizes him as his father instead of calling Ryuken by his name.
For real, more development between those would’ve been great. It’s a little strange how barely present Ryuken is himself in the arc considering it focuses on the Quincy and his son was on the enemies team, but the most focus he gets was during EBTR. And considering his wife was killed by the main villain, you’d think he’d have a bigger role than he usually did.
And I agree that an actual fight with Uryu and Jugram would’ve been cool. Imagine if Uryu was trying to beat him before Yhwach could get back the Almighty but failed.
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I think the problem was the time constraints he was under, so he couldn’t use all the concepts and ideas he wanted to.
He's still waiting to understand what his father wants to protect
I never thought Uryu went bad
I had a couple mini theories before hand when reading.
1: He was blackmailed/threatened Aka as a Quincy he was drafted and they threatened him and possibly his family if he didn't join them (expecting him to clash with Ichigo and have a big heart breaking moment where they're forced to fight.)
2: His idealised sense of Quincy pride and duty lead him to join, only to find out later just how horrible they where, and then he'd come back to help the good guys.
3: He joined with the intention to betray them
It’s really weird how Kubo didn’t have time to give to Uryu when, in my opinion, he wasted so much time on useless mook fights. Like Gerard Valkyrie? Did he have to keep reviving? Or the Bird guy? Or the poison guy? The zombie girl? There was just way too much time spent fighting these one note Sternritter that could’ve been given to Uryu. Yeah he was absolutely wasted.
I never truly believed Uryu had turned evil, especially after learning that Yhwach had basically killed Uryu's mother.
No one really believed Ishida had become a bad guy, it was pretty obvious that his plan was to infiltrate Yhwach's party in order to destroy it and at the same time to protect his friends.
I always wondered what Uryuu’s transformation/“Holy Form” would be since he had a Schrift
I'm assuming he wouldn't want to use it since he's a more traditional quincy
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Honestly, him killing Mayuri in the final war would have fixed a lot of thing. He'd have actually done something to earn the trust of the Sternritter and killed a captain. It would have been a nice moment, him avenging his grandfahter and keeping his promise that he'd kill him.
Could have made things more dramatic and made people doubt a bit more about his loyalty.
Indeed. Tho losing Mayuri v Pernida would suck a fair bit ngl. Maybe changing the order of things so both fights happen. Also getting rid of the giselle fight if you don't want mayuri to have 3 full ones
Yeah I'm all for it. I think this is definitely needed Uryu Ishida would be exacting justice.
I mean Uryu accomplished a lot giving the fact that he didn’t have a Quincy mate to train with, outside his father who never wanted to train him Only when he lost his power, but all this was necessary for Uryuu to think outside the box and to have Free thinking without the Quincy king Pressing him throughout his growing.
It would’ve been cool if uryu actually became a villain at the end after getting a decent view of what power looks like, his main goal still being to avenge his mother but taking ywach place instead thus extending the manga a little longer and actually making him a good plot character.
Just what I wish would’ve happened with him, obviously you’d have to change a lot of things that have happened in the arc but still I think this would’ve been a little better!
I never thought he went bad because he was so quiet and never voicing how he felt like he did when Uryuu did when he first challenged ichigo in season 1
I personally wanted to see Uruyu get stronger and reach Ichigo's level or at least top Captain tier because it feels like he just got left behind in the series.
Like, I was expecting a new transformation after his ultimate transformation against Mayuri but we got nothing.
Well he is massively strong int he tybw I put him at high captain level and definitly can stand with ichigo he'd lose tho
@@vaDSG I guess he is strong but they did a terrible job at showing it
@@ezraagboghoroma7283 when Ichigo remarked at how much stronger quilge opie's arrows were than Uryu, Opie was like "wait what? Nah that's impossible"
Well in Tybw he is stronger than every captain expect for yamamoto and Kenpachi and he is the 4th strongest sternritter but they were terrible in showing his strenght
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And here I was hoping for a Nico Robin-level friend betrayal arc with a Sasuke- level friend battle... of all the things I hope for the anime to change and elaborate on, this is one of the big ones.
Yeah that would have been interesting to see
No anime company has given us a better rival battle than Naruto v Sasuke.
Initialy that was what i was also hoping for.. a sasuke-naruto like battle at the end between ichigo and uryu because of quincy pride and stuff
You know, I never thought uryu was a bad guy. I was hoping that he was some triple agent kinda guy. This was my theory that the Ishidas were some quincy mutation that was free from yuha's will. This mutation scared yuha and gave him the choice to eliminate them on subjugate them to insure they cannot pose a threat to him. Soken after learning that the quincys truly had no free will aside from servitude to yuha and seeing the quincys change and become an empty shell of wat they were under servitude to yuha, defected along with a few quincys under his cause. They were the quincy on earth that were eliminated by the aswalen light, except the ishidas who were unefected. This is where Uryu comes in:
Uryu after being scouted and being told of yuhas plans decided to go in alone( at the time I thought the all mighty would not affect the Ishidas and hashwald) and find a way to take control of the quincys and return them to the way of life soken talked about. That's why he had to betray his friends because in his mind, if he waited for yuha to atain God hood and then take his power and use it to fix the current world instead of creating a new one or ruling over yuhas world. (Avenging his mother was somewhere In there too) after his plan failed and hashwald found him out uryu would join back up with Ichigo and they would use ichigos power an uryus imunity to defeat yuha.
my interpretation of Uryu's actions was one of confliction. Through the entire series up to this point Uryu has praised the Quincy and their powers. during this arc he is suddenly asked to join a group of Quincy, and he is not sure which side to stick with. He goes with his default and joins the Quincy and has regrets when he sees what they are all about.
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Good thing you finally put Uryu in the latest video. Im also hoping you also make a video of Joshiro Ukitake as well.
Interesting that you would bring him up.Uryu has become one of my favorite characters in bleach. Watching his evolution was quite interesting. He’s always cool, calm, and extremely intelligent.He’s definitely become a great bleach character. Definitely deserves this video you made.
I personally thought the Antithesis was a fine ability, awkwardly executed but it's a very strong ability against anyone except someone using the Balance. A lot of the Sternritters have Scrifts that don't really tie to their character or design. The girl with pink hair the power comes to mind, even Halscwald with the Balance, his power could've been anything and would've fit his character. Imagine he was B the Boost, and could Boost the power of others and his Attacks, sounds more like him than Balance but a lot less Broken and cool lol. Robert is probably N the Navigate like you said in another video, I guess he looks like a Navigator kinda so that may not count.
And that is why Hash was a good opponent for Uryu to deal with as his main fight. It was someone that Uryu would have trully go all out and do his best to overcome him. Problem was how poorly executed and rushed the fight was.
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I think a fix for this whole thing Is in the anime adaptation, we see Uryu offered a position with the Quincies. Its kind of like a rehashing of Orihime getting abducted but like you said on its head. It could be why he has to break away, he's offered an opportunity to meet someone before everything even goes down. Instead of self sacrifice it's a on the dime decision to help from the inside. It would be so easy to add and to put some stock in why he had to make the choice. In this situation they could have threatened to steal his powers lest he joins, or a conversation between Uryu and whomever came could add some stakes.
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That would actually be so cool if uryu and jugram had an initial encounter where jugram mops the floor with uryu and states he should join or he would lose his power. Ofc he would never be evil and help from the inside as you said.
A lot of great interactions would happen since uryu wouldn't be hiding himself and being bold with why he thinks the sternritter are scum or something of the sort due to his grandpa's teachings
I don't think anyone really believed that he switched sides, which is what made the whole thing so frustrating. No reader likes having their intelligence insulted and even fewer like having their time wasted, and the whole thing with Ishida did both.
Ishida, Ishigo, Isshin and Ryuken all had good reasons to want to kill Yhwach and a four vs one with them against him would have been so much cooler than watching Ichigo get stomped while Orihime does nothing of note.
Agreed.
I think the only failure with Ishida's character in this arch was how little Kubo played to his and ichigo's relationship. It's like he's trying to hint at them being best bros, but he just falls short of it.
Did I think Uryuu willfully turned evil? No. But did his Gin-like kamikaze nature annoy me? Yep, absolutely 😂
I also do feel that he wasn't really used that well, especially when taking into account that this was "his" arc.
Uryu Ishida is my favourite character in Bleach. One of the things I'm disappointed in with the final arc is that Uryu didn't do a lot. I wanted to see him in action a lot more. It would've been cool to see him fight other Soul Reapers like the Captains, and that they don't show what his power is until his fight with Haschwalth. They could at least show him defeat a Captain or another Soul Reaper without revealing how he did it. And it would imply that he has gotten a lot stronger.
I’m like Shocked😳 watching this video. But not surprised that he went to the dark side, because I always felt like he was cold throughout many events. But great video you killed it 💕✨
I always feel like Uryu is even the better friend to Ichigo. Chad is explained as the best friend by Kubo, the author. But Kubo basically makes nothing with Chad. We see no supportive scenarios between Chad and Ichigo except that one time Chad tells Ichigo how HE uses fullbring. He is not even in the last arc so even Kubo forgot that CHad even exists...
Kubo writes Uryu as the more supportive of the two. Helping Ichigo saving Rukia (when he basically has no greater reason top help him). Saves Orihime on countless parts.
Later he even comes to Ichigo to support him against Ulqoirra and attempt to stop hollow Ichigo and almost getting killed in the process. He later tries to warn Ichigo about Ginjo and is one of the few characters fighting Yhwach.
I also never thought Uryu was evil, I knew he was probably undercover
why didnt hashwald fight against other shinigami
I feel if we the readers had seen the recruitment process of uryu, maybe it wouldn't convince us he'd gone bad but it would have given us a bit more of a pause, like, how did they "convince" him? Or better yet how did uryu convince them?
Personally, when Kudo first teased us with Uryu joining the Sternritter, I was hoping that Uryu had been taken in by a more "sympathetic" side of we hadn't been shown yet. I presumed that some of them, such as Robert Accutrone, might possibly have had a friendship with Urya's grandfather, and wanted revenge against Soul Society for his friend's death. I presumed that a re-awoken desire for revenge, stirred up by Yhwach and those like Robert, would blind Uryu to the crueler, more despicable side of the Sternritter. I hoped for a rematch between Uryu and Mayuri, where Uryu would use his newly-granted powers from Yhwach to finally kill the captain - the very thing he failed to do back in the Soul Society arc - and because, let's face it, while he's a fun character, Mayuri needed comeuppance for (almost - looking at you, Szayelaporro) all the people he's killed and tortured throughout his life.
Eventually, of course, he'd learn that Yhwach is nothing but a selfish dirtbag who killed his mother and throws away his loyal followers the moment they hold no further use to him, and that would convince Uryu that he made the wrong choice and help Ichigo finally kill Yhwach once-and-for-all. Then Uryu would take over the Vandenreich and lead the surviving Quincy into a new age, one built upon his grandfather's teachings.
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1) I never believed Uryu went bad. A good way to fix this though. Have Uryu at the first invasion and confronted by a Sternritter, like Haschwalth or someone. He questions Uryu as to why he's helping the Shinigami considering their treatment of the Quincy and they'll probably consider him an enemy anyway. Uryu argues back that he's helping Ichigo not the Shingami and that Ichigo will protect him if the Shingami turn on him. Haschwalth says the equivalent of "Yeah, sure. Call for me when you get locked up." Then after the first invasion have Uryu jailed by the Shingami while Ichigo is out of commission. Feeling abandoned and betrayed Uryu calls for Haschwalth and he's transported to the Quincy world. This gives Uryu a reason to turn. He can say he was faking it later, but it gives the reader reason to doubt his loyalties
2) While the Antithesis is a neat title, I think the Aegis could have been put to better use. Aegis: the power to protect, control, or support something or someone. Basically, it would be the ultimate support role, which, if we're being honest is exactly what Uryu is. Tactical support that is best when he is organizing and using both his and his allies powers to their fullest. Uryu would be able to boost the power of an ally, but also secretly gain a modicum of control over them as well. Ywach sees this as a means protect and strengthen the Quincy, giving more of a reason to name him the Heir. Also he thinks it a way to boost his Almighty power, but doesn't realize that it allows Uryu to keep one possible future hidden from his eyes. Uryu could also coordinate the second assault on the Serettai with his new ability, demonstrating his further "loyalty".
I love how Uryu was Jugram’s adversary. Uryu had Jugram triggered when it came to friendship. Uryu did what he didn’t do when it came to his friends. Jugram dropped Bazz B like that while Uryu didn’t. Jugram valued power over friendship while Uryu valued friendship over power. And deep down Jugram regretted his decisions despite saying he didn’t.
haha trailer hype has me watching every Ishida video out there, anyway great job on this one, you have some really great insights into Uryu's character. I have SO MANY thoughts about Uryu, so please bear with me as I type alongside watching this bc I love talking about him.
As you pointed out, there was a large gap between Uryu refusing to go to Hueco Mundo and the end of EBTR, and I can remember clearly the Uryu nation of the bleach fanbase waiting with bated breath for his role in the arc to come to light and there was a LOT of speculation. I think one of the biggest theories I saw regarding him was that if it did turn out he was with the Sternritters, it was because he had very much been backed into a corner while he was separated from his allies and it was safer for him to play along with the Quincies rather than fight them alone without a plan, or based on Quilge Opie's comment about Soken, that Uryu was there a mission to uncover information about his grandfather. I don't think either of these turned out to be true and in hindsight and speculation, the reason Uryu refused to go to Hueco Mundo felt so strange is because he was already considering the possibility of the nature of these new enemies. At the time Ichigo's room is invaded by whats-his-name during their friendly bread time, he thinks it might be an Arrancar because of the mask, but that was only his initial assessment. And knowing how sensitive to reiatsu Uryu is as a Quincy, it's possible that between then and Nel's visit that he'd already considered the polity - especially since Nel's arrival would've given him a point of comparison as an actual Arrancar. In that chapter, what to the readers is supposed to be the last "friendly" interaction between Ichigo and Uryu, he seems far too resigned that he can't go with them. The same guy that happily found a loophole in his pledge to his father to not associate with shinigami is suddenly going "too bad so sad" when someone needs help is, as you pointed out, not in line with Uryu's character- that is - unless he's already considering the possibility that if their enemies are Quincies like him, that he alone out of this group can infiltrate them and destroy them from the inside without his friends getting involved and being put in harm's way. We've seen it before where Uryu singles himself out to an opponent to try and keep someone else safe - he threatens Aramaki to take Orihime and run before his fight with Kurotsuchi, he tells Cirruci that he's not associated with Pesche so she won't attack him, he takes on Ulquiorra alone to buy Orihime and Ichigo time, and when he's hospitalised in the Fullbring arc, he initially refuses healing from Orihime on the off chance that the enemy is targeting him specifically (being in the hospital would keep him a safe distance from his friends so as to not put them in harm's way). The sadness and resignation that he just can't go with them this time make a lot more sense if, to Uryu, this is his final goodbye to his friends, and they don't even know that. That either, they'll return to find he's destroyed Warwhelt with himself inside (or died trying) or if they do meet again, he'll have to convince them he's their enemy.
SO. To answer your question, I don't think anyone from the get-go was convinced that Uryu had joined the side of the Quincies without an ulterior motive, from that point onwards, to me at least, it felt like Kubo was making us watch Uryu play a very dangerous game of political minesweeper. No one truly believed he was evil, but the repercussions of that meant that we watched Uryu navigate from within enemy lines, constantly balancing on the edge of what he needed to do to gain their trust, while also trying to avoid being discovered as he put his plan into action, while also having to shut down emotional responses to both his friend's reactions to the behaviour of Ywach and fellow Sternritters. It was very nerve-wracking to see Uryu essentially having a constant threat hanging over him when Ywach announces him as his heir while the Sternritters were all reluctant to trust him (and for good reason), with the word of Ywach being the only thing keeping them from ripping into him. That's what I read as Kubo's narrative angle when writing Uryu as one of the bad guys anyway - and your point about how we never see Uryu's introspection the entire time, I think it doubles up, to people who believed he had sided with the Vandenreich it makes Uryu's allegiances unclear, to those who weren't convinced, we can't see Uryu's plan or thought process, we don't know what his ulterior motive is and so we can't safely predict how he'll navigate it. Essentially on all sides we're all just reading it going "what the hell are you doing?"
Moving on - yes very much so, one thing that bothered me the most is that Uryu's survival of Auschwalen is never elaborated on. It's just put out there and even after Bleach has ended we still have to speculate with no definitive answer. It might be related to the fact that even with a mixed-blood mother, he still was born to two Quincy parents. Or perhaps Soken had a hand in his survival or maybe even a situation like Ichigo where he was protected somehow by Kanae (that would be nice, we don't know much about the Ishida family between Uryu being born and Kanae dying and I think it would just be a nice level of depth to the Ishida's and another similarity between Ichigo and Uryu). I can't see how it would relate to Antithesis, my understanding of Antithesis is that until Santen Kesshun, it doesn't just reject an event, but rather, there needs to be a selected target to take on what would've happened to him which I can't think of any decent candidates for but maybe there are some gaps in my memory from the last time I read TYBW.
I do kinda like Ichigo just trying to shout his way through to Uryu bc in the past, Rukia needed saving, Orihime needed saving, everyone affected by Tsukishima (which coincidentally did not include Uryu) needed saving, he's never had to deal with someone willingly going against him. I don't know what he was trying to achieve just be shouting his name the whole time, but it gives a strange sense that Ichigo's objective isn't just as simple as "defeat all the bad guys and save the day" when one of the bad guys is someone he wants to protect, and he doesn't quite know how to reach him. I do still think that the moments we got with them weren't enough though,
But very true, all in all, we just didn't spend enough time with Uryu for what was built-up. I think for the expectations we had for him going into a "Quincy Arc" and the long gaps of absence he had where we have no idea what he's doing, left a lot of build-up of speculations that got all dressed up but went nowhere. For one I would've loved to have seen a split between the Vandenreich, those who either believed Uryu was their ally or just believed in their majestys decision and those who wouldn't trust him as far as they could throw him. It would've been interesting to see the Quincies fall apart from the inside because of Uryu due to trust, and then fall apart literally due to his spirit particle plan. On that topic - the emotional consequences of Uryu going on a suicide mission to destroy the Vandenreich while being willing to die with his friends thinking he'd betrayed them is NEVER explored, especially when Ichigo had literally just said in the past arc to Uryu in the hospital something along the lines of "if we can't handle it by yourself, then we all need to come together" (the consequences of Ryuken not thinking to lock the door when autopsying his dead wife while his small child is in the house is also never touched on beyond "I don't wanna be a doctor") It was just a "Oh he's NOT a bad guy confirmed now we can move on to other stuff" which felt like an injustice to Uryu really. The thing about his motivations...I get wanting to avenge your mother, but to the readers, given that we never saw Uryu and his mother together in a panel or even a scene (where both of them are alive). We don't know what the Ishida family was like, whether Uryu was close with his mother, how her death affected him (maybe how it made Ryuken throw himself in to his work, driving Uryu to seek out more time with Soken just to have an affectionate parental figure in his life).
ALSO regarding the actual battle of Uryu vs Hashbrown - a friend and I joked the entire time that it was logistically a "no u", "no u", "I'm rubber ur glue whatever u say sticks back to u" and that Ryuken just showed up fashionably late with a Starbucks or whatever. Though regarding Antithesis, I very much took that as Uryu design-wise, has always been the antithesis to Ichigo. Themes of dark vs light, a loving family and a cold family, a desire to protect vs every man for himself, even their contrasting colours of orange and blue.
I can't say for certain whether he was truly wasted as a character, more than just not getting the catharsis of all the plot points that were set up. But I can say for sure, the fact that Uryu didn't get a proper scene to reunite with his friends after it was all over, where they just relished in living through another world-ending event, that we never get Ryuken's perspective at all in the present day of this arc and the fact Uryu and Ryukens relationship was never resolved properly and not given the proper ending they deserved, that we just have to assume they came to a resolution on their own outside of what we're shown, made me want to get wasted just to cope.
A fun side note, until this video I never realised that the kanji used for Licht Regen means "rain of light" - kinda fun when you think how one of the characters in Uryu means "rain" combined with the whole Prince of Light thing.
Anti thesis:
a person or thing that is the direct opposite of someone or something else.
(in Hegelian philosophy) the negation of the thesis as the second stage in the process of dialectical reasoning.
Hegelian: Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel was a German philosopher
I am still trying to see and understand and finding a connection
uryu is the "antithesis" to the sternritter, and their relation with yhwach. The sternritter all get power from yhwach, so they serve him, whereas uryu never really does. that's why he faces off against jugram, who's basically the biggest yhwach simp. nothing to do with this german philosopher lol
Once again.... FINALLY! This is another topic I've been THIRSTING for more information on, specifically from your perspective. Thank you.
I feel like uruyu played double agent to also find out who he is and some history of the Quincy
It would have been cool if Kubo did some foreshadowing during the SS arc that one of Uryu's objectives was to set up markers for when the Wandenreich can swap the terrain and HM have him come to disrupt and scout the area for the Quincy invasion and some more of Ryuken/Ishida or Soken/Ryuken discussing what's coming or future plans. That's why I'm hoping how Snyder got his cut, Kubo has his fully fleshed out.
Really digging these analysis. I always upset with the way the final arc was rushed. It had so much room left for character and plot development but it makes sense now knowing Kubo’s health was deteriorating.
He SHOULD HAVE KILLED Mayuri.
This would keep up the Charade that Uryu "Turn to the Dark side"
And later Nemu should have had stable cells and married Uryu.
Yeah I agree , about uryu killing mayuri , not the shipping stuff.
I agree but because I genuinely hate Mayuri. He’s a deplorable and disgusting man. Uryu should’ve killed him in the first fight
Lol no with the shipping, seriously someone shows kindness and compassion then suddenly its regarded as love
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Uryu's antithesis is he and all his endeavors are the antithesis. He is the exact opposite of what is expected when the mixed quincy are killed, him being granted title of heir is the antithesis to what everyone thought would be done, his actions through the arch are the antithesis to what we had come to expect and he is the antithesis to our main protagonist.
He is the antithesis of the entire series.
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i think it was aslo stated that it took 9h for ichigo to reach the soul society when he left the soul palace, but ywach said that the 72 layers are open for another 6000 seconds which is not close to 2 hours...let that sink in
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I never thought he was evil. I considered multiple things, especially the fact that he is so intelligent. He could easily show himself up as a true Quincy, whilst analyzing and trying to get a feel for the people Ichigo could be facing.
I don't think he was. It looks like the quincy always leave a king behind. Uryu despite being a half blood he kept his life and powers.
I had a theory that Uryu would renounce his Quincy abilities and ask either Urahara or Aizen to use the Hogyoku to turn him into something like an arrancar that way he would poison Yuha when he took those powers back. This would fit with his theme of pride in his Quincy heritage and him casting that aside would be fulfilling his grandfathers wish for him to live without that shadow and to embrace hollows as a part of the soul cycle.
Would have been better than the silver arrow.
Or even better idea: he had already been an arrancar when he joined Yuha and was just replicating Quincy abilities with clever uses of Cero, Bala, and Hierro, with his glasses functioning as his mask. Yuha would allow him to rebel and then take the Schrift back not knowing he put it on a Hollowfied human and been weakened enough for Ichigo to kill him. Maybe even show Uryu using a ressurecion to beat Haschwalth.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Chad is still Ichigos best friend? Like Uryu and Ichigo get closer i think it just seems that way because Uryu and Ichigo grow closer in the series but we know Chad and Ichigo are already close friends.
If Tsukishima "controlling" Chad is a slight against him then shouldnt that apply to Orihime as well? Chad was ready to murder Tsukishima in the Lost Agent Arc when they fought initially. Chad tried everything in his power to give Ichigo back his powers because he knew how Ichigo was feeling. He's the only one who took a proactive approach. I guess you could say it's because of Xcution but he still tried
Well Joseph , there is no denying that chad is ichigo friend , but you can understand why chad is not talked about very much .
@@bqw2094 Ya Chad gets shafted as far as screen time. But I wasn't talking about why people don't talk about Chad just that I still think Ichigo and Chad are closer than Uryu and Ichigo
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Chad is ichigo best friend but uryu is like a roundabout cousin I guess.
@@Ando1428 well ichigo and uryu are actual cousins 😅
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My brother read it while it was coming out, and I didn't believe it at all, because it wasn't built at all; Ichigo and Sado both have had their own darkness expanded, not so much Ishida
Uryu's view of what a Quincy should be is the antithesis of what Yhwach's Quincy are? That's the closest I've gotten to explaining that to myself lmao.
Uryu wasn't the last quincy because there's still Giselle and her friends who still alive. I believe there's also Nanana mentioned in the light novel i think
I don’t think it was even about Uryu being a traitor but more like he wanted that feeling of home with his race of people. I don’t know. That’s what I got from this
Yes, yes, absolutely yes. Certainly. Frankly saying he was underused is an understatement.
Agreed , so we’re ryuken and souken.
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Hilarious because mrtommo didnt even refer to him as that in this video at all. Ishida deserved more in the final arc. But blow me a new one with all the story he got character development, saved the worlds and practically helped defeat juha bach. You making it sound like he did nothing in the arc is just talking a hugr load of BS
Uryu: Remember you stab me, Ichigo?
Ichigo: But that wasn't me.
Uryu: I'm gonna join the others to get you.
Ichigo: Oh for the love of-
The bad part about the Uryu twist was that he was given great power and status by Ywach and NEVER once doubted or was it considered that he might turn traitor. And maybe there was a reason, but it was never shown to us. Ywach had to consider Uryus complex relationships
Uryu vs ichigo rematch we could have had that and see how strong uryu become in thousand year blood war sigh
Uryu is my favorite character. Not just in Bleach, or anime- but ever. I never once thought he was evil. I enjoyed this vid. Thanks for this. Awesome job!
I would love once the anime returns if Uryu gets more screen time and they expand his story
I've always been an anime only fan and seriously I can't wait to see bleach come back. While I've enjoyed reading the manga every now and then it's gonna be so good to see how they bring this to life especially uryu and that scene where he walks in in his white military gear
Honestly, the anti-thesis makes sense completely. Uryu is the opposite of Yhwach, unaffected by his Auswahlen.. why wouldn't he be unaffected by The Almighty? I mean, he is "affected" but probably not a way even Yhwach is able to realize. I truly believe Uryu was a 6th Special War Power, simply because he himself is anti-Yhwach. Everything Yhwach does towards the Quincy, towards the Soul Reapers, Uryu shoves back into his face.
I also think Kubo made Him the antithesis bc He as a character was created as the antithesis or foil not only for Ichigo but for the shinigami as well, being pretty much the only quincy in a world dominated by them.
There's also the fact that His journey in the TYBW is the antithesis of haschwalth's decisions and outcomes.
16:53 I imagine it was just lucky genes that got passed on essentially, kind of like a punnet square where you have a few different possibilities as far as what can happen. Assuming that being quincy isn't a race thing and more so a singular gene the "quincy gene" I'll call it, then ryouken had a 100 percent chance to pass on the quincy gene to uryu. Making him a quincy. And his mother had a 50% chance of passing on the quincy gene or a non quincy gene, and he got lucky enough to get the quincy gene essentially making him a full quincy in blood.
I love how the Quincy look like biblically accurate angels/sick angels
uryu joining the vandenreich to me was not well thought out...for starters ywach letting him join the vandenreich should've never been possible. like didnt check him before letting him join? even if it was to monitor his movements. like, why is he entertaining this? ywach should know he came for revenge for his mother( he killed her). if he wanted uryu dead, he could've certainly done it, yet he gave him the perfect counter to his ability. and what did uryu think he was going to do? he never even attempt to kill ywach, and if it wasn't for the arrow that his dad give him (and last minute) or the antithesis( which was given to him) he was not going to do nothing to ywach.....
Know I'm late on this one but pretty sure his schrift(?) Anti-Thesis is supposed to show how he's going against what yhwach is pitching what all quincy should do. He is the opposite of ywhach in that while yhwach is trying to destroy the world's under guise of protecting/ending his "father". Uryu is trying to kill ywach because he killed his mother and so many other and to protect the world's. Uryus and Yhwachs goal are opposites. While they do share similar motives/means to accomplish that goal. They stand on opposite sides.
I think the bigger question is, if yhwach and haschwalt can see the future how did neither of them see anything about what uryu was doing. Idk how an omnipotent being who can see all futures misses the one where he takes an arrow to the back. Unless has something to do with soul king which is a big maybe
Keep up the good work. I love these longer videos personally :)
Too be honest, when I first read it. I thought he was a mole for Urihara. If I remember correctly, Ishida was working with Urihara, receiving missions or tasks from him
Something I just thought of halfway through the video. What if kubo played the story from the stuff we got originally with the shinigami and quincies fights. But, he would give us the perspective of ichigo and uryu dealing with the death of their mothers and maybe in the final fight they fight Ywach with their fathers.
Uryu saying that hollows are the enemy line was clearly just an excuse he gave his friends so he can go off and do what he has to. I don't understand how that is so hard to get. The way its drawn, his wording. When it first came out I specifically remember thinking, why would he lie like that? Then he switched sides, apparently to some people he did. But with the context of that lie early it was pretty clear and straight forward he was going to destroy them from the inside. Personally I think Kuba did not give anywhere enough to suggest he did but rather reconfirmed his good guy stance.
How this trips people up till this day I do not know.
I think it makes sense for him to not help out the gang early on or the SS with his “plan” because as we know he still has strong pride in being a Quincy. He still doesn’t like Soul reapers, only tolerates them because of Ichigo and Rukia. I don’t think Uryu’s role was a dud I just think if the anime can add the details and some foreshadow, it’d be a perfect arc. Kubo also did confirm that him not dying from the Aushwalen would be explained in the anime
what I wonder is why didnt Ishida's power include being immune to the almighty because his ability is just a No you which isnt even close to how broken Balance is which almost does the same but better. Plus I never really understood how he conveniently survived Auschwalen despite not being a pure blooded Quincy .
Thanks for your dedication after all these years I get to go back and watch this content on the newest anime arc and be intrigued.
It was very clear that Uryu was wholeheartedly obligated to be loyal to Bach because he was a Quincy from a long gone era and wanted to be there to see what a Quincy hero would do in the modern day
I was hoping for more scheming. A twist where we as the reader see Uryu trying to sabotage the Vandenreich in the background but everybody else believing that Uryu really switched over to the dark side. I assumed that was Kubo's goal but Uryu was just chilling around until he had to shoot the last arrow.
I feel like the arc in general needed a bit more planning and 100-150 more chapters. The setup was just too big. Ishin and Ryoken for example not playing part in this even though it's a matter of the heart for both of them. Ishin letting Ichigo handle this on his own was also pretty strange. Ishin always let Ichigo do his thing but he arrived when he had to during the climax of fake karakura. Here he just didn't although he is one of the most capable shinigami there is and the danger levels were higher than ever before. I'd imagine him at least playing a bit more of a role. Maybe taking on a side guy or something. Nothing. He was drinking his beers waiting for the world to end or his son to win although he still had his final getsuga tenshou. Would have helped a lot.
Like you said just a moment or a few of his POV. His final fight not getting cut out and being a major battle but I also find it hard to believe he’d be stronger than haschwalth. Maybe expand the fight against ichigo with a few getsugas and some more arrows a conversation about their new found history they have together. A few more memories with his grandfather a conversation with ywhach and he would have been an mvp of the arc I love the stuff we got just adding a few more things would of made his impact amazing even with his plan not working
The anime has added a few scenes regarding Uryu.
I really want to know Uryuu's father power and how he fight. Hope the anime shows this.
I hope with the anime coming out, Kubo will be able to write and end this story like he wanted it to end. Bleach is a great story, it was my favorite of the big 3, and it got shafted so hard by circumstances. Even if he has to change some things, I want to experience his story!
Uryu's ability would make a really funny rematch against syazel aporro
i hope that the anime actually see these flaws and fixes it. while a lot of people just want the anime to comeback, but behind all of that, people want justice for the story. a better story. and if they dont fix these issues, than its a big F you to the fans...
I always assumed Uryu was pulling a Gin. Get close and back stab Yhwach.